With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
Quote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Quote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Even if we're locked into a #2 RPI, we are not locked into a #2 seed. The committee would weigh Maryland's quality win advantage against Cornell's better loss profile.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Even if we're locked into a #2 RPI, we are not locked into a #2 seed. The committee would weigh Maryland's quality win advantage against Cornell's better loss profile.
They would still likely be 2-3.
Quote from: LGR14Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Even if we're locked into a #2 RPI, we are not locked into a #2 seed. The committee would weigh Maryland's quality win advantage against Cornell's better loss profile.
They would still likely be 2-3.
Pretty sure
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: LGR14Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Even if we're locked into a #2 RPI, we are not locked into a #2 seed. The committee would weigh Maryland's quality win advantage against Cornell's better loss profile.
They would still likely be 2-3.
Pretty sure
Right, so need to win to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Also amazing how much damage one loss can do. If Ohio State hadn't lost to Utah earlier this year (and the other results had been the same), they'd be the #1 seed. Instead, they will likely be no better than #4.
What I do like to see is that Cornell has a bunch of wins over likely tournament teams this year:
1) Princeton (hoping to see them as an at larger rather than AQ B-] )
2) Syracuse (likely at large even if they lose to Duke today, although there is no AQ at stake)
3) Richmond (Atlantic 10 AQ winner)
4) Harvard (likely at large)
5) Albany (America East AQ winner)
So five wins over tournament teams, six if they beat Princeton againt today. And one loss (Penn State) to a likely tournament team, and that game went to overtime.
I admit the list is cheating--Albany's not great (RPI 37, so they wouldn't be in without the AQ), but it's another way to look at how strong Cornell's overall season has been.
The preternatural fear of Maryland continues. . .
My hopes for today:
1) No injuries.
2) We've found the secret sauce not to have an off day after the short rest.
3) We win.
Quote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU77With Maryland's loss to Ohio State in the B1G final, this is now for the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.
The winner of this game will be RPI #1 and the loser RPI #2, no matter what happens in the three other remaining games (ACC, Patriot, ASun finals).
May the Force be with us!
LGR!
I obviously hope we win—but if we're locked into top-2 RPI that takes some of the pressure off
Not if you want to avoid Maryland before Memorial Day.
Yes, there are upsides to having the #1 seed over the #2 seed. But if the biggest one is playing Maryland in the seminals instead of the finals, which is only relevant if they win their first two rounds but lose against someone else in the semifinals, then I'd still say that takes some of the pressure off because the upside isn't that large.
I've seen predictions that we can be anywhere from a #1 seed to a #4 seed.
The NCAAA selection committee is unpredictable.
A little French pastry, as Barry used to say.
21 Hard Hat lacrosse up and down the roster.
Princeton looking totally outclassed right now.
Jeez, Reeder again
do officials even watch the replays?
Disagree with 2:00 on that, but we gotta buckle down.
Quote from: jjanow99Jeez, Reeder again
He needs to stop with the big hits. Use the stick, body position, and play lacrosse.
Tied 4-4 going into 2nd. Knust getting jumpy. Have to settle down.
What a quarter. We've got a game.
4-4 end of one.
at some point CJ gets his goals. Thats the key
We're having some success against this zone when we draw a double and hit the cutter. Let's see more of that.
Looks like Coach got in their ears about on-ball defense. They've picked it up today.
By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Wyatt is playing great in the nets.
Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
Defensive mistake. Left the shooter alone from 10.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Princeton is really good playing box-like lacrosse around the net.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Quote from: pepbandoldieQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Really, is there any better song than a pep band song?
Quote from: mike1960Princeton is really good playing box-like lacrosse around the net.
So are we.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: pepbandoldieQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Really, is there any better song than a pep band song?
they've been playing freebird. turn it up!
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Quote from: pepbandoldieQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Really, is there any better song than a pep band song?
they've been playing freebird. turn it up!
It's minor-league.
Completely lost the cutter on the EMO. Can't do that.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Quote from: pepbandoldieQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Really, is there any better song than a pep band song?
they've been playing freebird. turn it up!
It's minor-league.
they're playing out for both sides so it might be a league decision
Great game! Good test before the Big Dance.
9-8 Princeton at the half.
9-8 Princeton at the half. They've found their footing. Interesting to see the adjustments and curious if fatigue will enter in for Princeton.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Quote from: pepbandoldieQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Scersk '97By the way, if you're wondering, the band has been instructed not to play for goals. You can direct your ire to the appropriate channels.
Why is that, I wonder?
I have literally no idea. Par for the course with Athletics these days. To face this crap on the road is one thing, but to face it at home is ridiculous.
Maybe it's the team's preference. The pep band hadn't shown up to games until the past two, so it's possible the team has a song they prefer be played instead.
Really, is there any better song than a pep band song?
they've been playing freebird. turn it up!
It's minor-league.
they're playing out for both sides so it might be a league decision
If that's true, then Athletics should step up and say "no." If Princeton can't send their band, then F them. Sucks to be them.
Was hoping Princeton would be tired after late Friday game, not the case I guess.
So the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
Quote from: ERSo the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
oh who cares what the post goal music is when we're losing the faceoffs and have given up four in a row. down 11-8 1:30 into the second half.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERSo the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
oh who cares what the post goal music is when we're losing the faceoffs and have given up four in a row. down 11-8 1:30 into the second half.
It's a game of runs. A lot of game left to be played.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERSo the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
oh who cares what the post goal music is when we're losing the faceoffs and have given up four in a row. down 11-8 1:30 into the second half.
Yep, Princeton has solved the faceoff problem and is now picking on Knust up high. Cornell has to get it together.
cornell winning all the clamps but none of the groundballs
there we go. couple of wins at the x and goldstein and kelleher go back to back to cut it to 12-10.
Wing play on faceoffs hurting.
A save would be nice once in a while
Princeton is making the defensive plays.
Wyatt is playing.
Did Princeton switch face off guys? Our early advantage there seems to have evaporated.
Hughy?
Quote from: mike1960Hughy?
LOL, I had the same thought.
we are winning 60% of FO,
Jesus H Kirst time coming up in the Firth quarter.
after the start to the period, playing it to a draw was nice. thought we should have tied it up on the last real possession but so it goes. tough pass and it didn't connect. down one heading to 4Q.
Quote from: upprdeckwe are winning 60% of FO,
it's less about cascadden and more that we don't seem to be getting as many ground balls as we should. the team isn't playing up to cascadden's level behind him on the draw.
If the defense can step up, we can win.
Low to high, Hughy nails it.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERSo the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
oh who cares what the post goal music is when we're losing the faceoffs and have given up four in a row. down 11-8 1:30 into the second half.
Actually, it does matter. It's psychological. Easy to block out piped-in music, but you can't block out live. Extends runs by getting into the defense's heads; reminds you that you're at home when you're down.
Mikey Long's head snaps back. That's contact to the head.
not very good replay to tell much anyway. much less than the one on CU that they stayed with
Glad CJ flat beat Mulshine there. That should give the Princeton long stick something to think about.
This is incredible.
And the team we all know has emerged and are exerting their will. Go Red!
what a run to pull away. love it. caring about our path is silly. anything can happen, but we're the one who knocks.
anyway, i'm glad that after three periods the guys adjusted to hearing freebird.
Quote from: pepbandoldieAnd the team we all know has emerged and are exerting their will. Go Red!
Knust has been on fire in the second half.
This is a very satisfying win, friends.
See you next week!
Edit: I wish ESPN would show the trophy presentation. It's been a long time coming.
That was awesome
There was some major adjustments made at halftime. 10-0 run was the difference. Defense was much better in the 2nd half, mostly because of Knust
Safe to assume we'll be playing a "play-in" winner. Does that mean our game will likely be Sunday? Also is that first round game played in Ithaca similar to how women's hockey was set up?
The coaching stuff in a number of games has made adjustments during half time. I feel we "out adjust" our opponents at half time, which is a strong advantage for us.
Quote from: CU2007Safe to assume we'll be playing a "play-in" winner. Does that mean our game will likely be Sunday? Also is that first round game played in Ithaca similar to how women's hockey was set up?
Yeah, they have historically given the play-in winners the Sunday game, so expect to see us on Sunday.
Quote from: jjanow99Was hoping Princeton would be tired after late Friday game, not the case I guess.
I have the advantage of having watched the game on TV before coming to this forum. But I never expected to see Princeton's tiredness having an effect until around late in Q3.
Also, on Friday the ESPN announcers said they wanted to see how Cornell plays after only 2 days' rest before they declare Cornell as the favorite for Memorial Day. Do you think they got their answer?
First line middies saw lots of time early 4Q.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERSo the number one seed gets the advantage but not really the advantage? Make it make sense
oh who cares what the post goal music is when we're losing the faceoffs and have given up four in a row. down 11-8 1:30 into the second half.
I cared a lot less when we went on our massive 2nd half run, but the Freebird goal song was cheesy. No idea who came up with that one.
Quote from: mike1960This is a very satisfying win, friends.
See you next week!
Edit: I wish ESPN would show the trophy presentation. It's been a long time coming.
Truly great win for Cornell. Took Princeton's best punch and answered with a 10 goal run!
Big Red in a great position for the NCAAs and (finger's crossed) a date for Memorial Day weekend in Boston.
So, so proud of this team, and I don't even know any of them. They represent Cornell University very well (win or lose).
Kelleher had a monster game. Knust and Cascadden were key. Goldstein is a special player (7 points today); Cornell is lucky to have him for two more years. All this and I haven't even mentioned Kirst and Long, who combined for 12 points.
They were all challenged by a very good Princeton who led at halftime, until Cornell came back to impose their will in the second half, especially the fourth quarter. Credit to Coach Buczek (saw him on TV after the game getting a hug from his boss, Dr. Moore--credit to her, too, for a great time to be a Cornell fan in many sports these days) and Coach Stevens and the entire staff.
From watching it on TV, the crowd appeared to be small (literally and figuratively dampened by the rain) but very loud--I hope they all went home happy. Tough wins against good teams is excellent preparation for the NCAA tournament.
29 goals allowed is a tournament is a lot for the tournament winner, but they got it done. As someone whose first fandom in Cornell sports was hockey (like many--most?--of you, this is eLynah, of course), I find it a little head spinning to think, "Well, the OFFENSES we'll face in the NCAAs won't be as tough as the ones in league play."*
A lot to like. Congratulations, Big Red, go get 'em again next week.
* unless, of course, we play Harvard or Princeton again
ALL-TOURNAMENT TEAM
CJ Kirst, Cornell (Most Outstanding Player)
Jayson Singer, Cornell
Christopher Davis, Cornell
Michael Long, Cornell
Ryan Goldstein, Cornell
Andrew McMeekin, Princeton
Nate Kabiri, Princeton
Chad Palumbo, Princeton
Graham Stevens, Harvard
Max Krevsky, Yale
A 10-goal run to win the title is... impressive.
So Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
There will never be another Pete Carril in the ivies (I was a student of his daughter). We have Schafer, but tbh it's not even close. U can bring up harkness, but I'm saying present day.
Quote from: toddloseSo Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
That you, BearLover?
Quote from: djk26Quote from: toddloseSo Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
That you, BearLover?
Nicely played. Lol
Quote from: djk26Quote from: toddloseSo Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
That you, BearLover?
No, I think Buczek will stay because he loves Cornell. Also, why Cornell can't afford to pay him as much as another program? There are so many rich Cornell lacrosse alumni and lacrosse coaches don't make that much money.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: djk26Quote from: toddloseSo Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
That you, BearLover?
No, I think Buczek will stay because he loves Cornell. Also, why Cornell can't afford to pay him as much as another program? There are so many rich Cornell lacrosse alumni and lacrosse coaches don't make that much money.
There's carril and Schafer. Throw tierney in there as well.
Quote from: toddloseQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: djk26Quote from: toddloseSo Connor Buczek to whoever pays the most money next I guess?
That you, BearLover?
No, I think Buczek will stay because he loves Cornell. Also, why Cornell can't afford to pay him as much as another program? There are so many rich Cornell lacrosse alumni and lacrosse coaches don't make that much money.
There's carril and Schafer. Throw tierney in there as well.
There's so many rich Cornell alum in general to question why we lose any coaches/recruits/etc.