This could be a classic trap game. Dartmouth has won some respect this year and has nothing to lose next weekend except their pride. Meanwhile, Cornell might be lulled into a false sense of security by Dartmouth's history & record. Cornell also might be looking ahead to the ILT & Memorial Day.
IMO, Cornell is much too good for Dartmouth. They could rest all the starters and still win.
This tweet by @LacrosseNetwork says it all: https://x.com/LacrosseNetwork/status/1914719522994483596
But then again, 15 years ago, THIS happened:
QuoteFOXBORO, Mass. – The No. 6 Cornell men's lacrosse team ran into a brick wall, as Dartmouth's Fergus Campbell made a career-high 23 saves to lead the Big Green to an 8-6 upset at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Mass.
https://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/4/3/MLAX_0403105940.aspx
We see upsets pretty much every week.
I think that the senior leaders on this team, after the end of year disappointments of '23 & '24, won't allow this team to have a letdown. With the added incentive of the Kirst record, I expect them to come out smoking on Saturday.
You read "Gillette Stadium" and think, oh, cripe, we lost in the NCAA final four. The game was early April, Cornell had already played a half-dozen games. It was Rob Pannell's sophomore year, he was en route to an All-America and Turnbull (attackman of the year) Award. But he was only one player. Let us assume and trust the game will turn out well for Cornell.
What's the over/under on when Kirst gets the record ??
Quote from: Cop at LynahWhat's the over/under on when Kirst gets the record ??
3 minutes.
I think it will be quick, first or second possession
Quote from: Cop at LynahI think it will be quick, first or second possession
I'm just hoping the whole team just lets the game come to them, rather than trying to force it to Kirst. Two or three poorly set up shots and you're suddenly starting the game 0-2.
I'd much rather start the game 5-0 with Kirst not getting anything until 24 minutes in.....to use a random example.
QuoteMen's Lax To Honor Senior Class On Verge of History When Dartmouth Visits Saturday
Following the contest, Cornell will honor its seniors — Michael Bozzi, Danny Caddigan, Andrew Dalton, Christopher Davis, Rory Graham, Alex Holmes, Hugh Kelleher, CJ Kirst, Wyatt Knust, Michael Long, Duke Reeder, Ryan Sheehan, Jayson Singer, Kyle Smith, Antonio Topouzis and Walker Wallace.
https://cornellbigred.com/news/2025/4/24/mens-lacrosse-mens-lax-to-honor-senior-class-on-verge-of-history-when-dartmouth-visits-saturday.aspx
What trap? The people who take your money, were one the wagering type, say Dartmouth won't win. Oddsmakers (here Draftkings) believe Cornell will win by 9 points (the favorite is the one with the minus in front), the two teams will score 26 or 27 goals total (so an 18-9 likely final), and the moneyline means a Dartmouth fan putting down $100 would win $2200 if the Big Green win.
Quote from: billhowardWhat trap? The people who take your money, were one the wagering type, say Dartmouth won't win. Oddsmakers (here Draftkings) believe Cornell will win by 9 points (the favorite is the one with the minus in front), the two teams will score 26 or 27 goals total (so an 18-9 likely final), and the moneyline means a Dartmouth fan putting down $100 would win $2200 if the Big Green win.
That is a massive point spread. If I were a betting man, I believe I'd take the Green.
Exactly. Some Dartmouth die-hard lacrosse fan (assume such exists, for argument's sake), thinks he could afford to lose $100, and he thinks of how often the Green have upset Cornell in Canada's other national sport. For us, we might think "easy money" but realize we'd really hate the off chance of losing $2200.
This written in jest. I see from the NCAA basketball tournament, when they weren't posting 'Scholar Athlete' they were noting you shouldn't take it out on the player just because, like, POTY Cooper Flagg banged the potentially winning shot off the rim, and your stupid bet lost.
Why did it have to rain...
Quote from: stereaxWhy did it have to rain...
b/c Ithaca?
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: stereaxWhy did it have to rain...
b/c Ithaca?
Real. Sadly.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: billhowardQuote from: stereaxWhy did it have to rain...
b/c Ithaca?
Real. Sadly.
Clearing up
Wet sticks = bad passes.
That didn't take long.
CJ KIRST. SUPERSTAR.
Quote from: mike1960That didn't take long.
No, it took Long.
Quote from: djk26Quote from: mike1960That didn't take long.
No, it took Long.
Ha ha.
Also the pep band is here!
Quote from: stereaxAlso the pep band is here!
A good crowd too!
basically just throwing the ball away most of the period under no pressure
Same old song:
We score when we move the ball.
We can't let the Green offense get to the top side.
Can we remove our heads from our asses?
Not getting good shots. Need better ball movement.
Staub lost the cutter. Dartmouth is attacking Gilmartin's short stick.
They seem in a rush to shoot when they still have plenty of time
The Dartmouth goalie is playing well.
maybe the better players need to be taking more of the shots
Looks like Box and Bozzi aren't dress today. I think they miss them out there .
Is shooting high the best approach to the Green goalie?
Quote from: mike1960Is shooting high the best approach to the Green goalie?
Hasn't been.
Two minutes for a direct hit to the head.
HOLY SHIT
We can score against the Green goalie when he's not there.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: mike1960Is shooting high the best approach to the Green goalie?
Hasn't been.
Jack went low.
Yeah, that all worked out just fine!
I wouldn't say Cascadden is our most important player, but he might be the most critical to reaching the team's overall ceiling
Gilmartin is not having a good game. He's been beaten a few times and probably out of frustration committed a foul to the head of the Dartmouth player. He needs to settle and play well in the fourth.
Nice job by Cornell on the Dartmouth EMO 2 minute non-releasable. We've had practice at it.
Wyatt is having a great game too.
Nice dodging and sweet goal by Ryan Goldstein through the five hole.
Goldstein sure does like really awkward shot selections.
Good TO
Green goalie with a buddy pass that cost them.
We're losing cutters far too often, but overall good defense today.
All wins are good wins! On to the tournament.
In hockey, that goalie steals a game. In lacrosse, it all works out.
Did anyone at the game get a picture of people sitting in the bleachers on the west side of the field?
Quote from: CU77QuoteMen's Lax To Honor Senior Class On Verge of History When Dartmouth Visits Saturday
Following the contest, Cornell will honor its seniors — Michael Bozzi, Danny Caddigan, Andrew Dalton, Christopher Davis, Rory Graham, Alex Holmes, Hugh Kelleher, CJ Kirst, Wyatt Knust, Michael Long, Duke Reeder, Ryan Sheehan, Jayson Singer, Kyle Smith, Antonio Topouzis and Walker Wallace.
https://cornellbigred.com/news/2025/4/24/mens-lacrosse-mens-lax-to-honor-senior-class-on-verge-of-history-when-dartmouth-visits-saturday.aspx
Sad to see those guys go. A wonderful group!
Quote from: SwampyThis could be a classic trap game. Dartmouth has won some respect this year and has nothing to lose next weekend except their pride. Meanwhile, Cornell might be lulled into a false sense of security by Dartmouth's history & record. Cornell also might be looking ahead to the ILT & Memorial Day.
I guess we have our answer, yes this was indeed a trap game. Dartmouth goalie made some great safes, and we're fortunate to come out ahead.
Yes, and it meant that the non-starting seniors did not get onto the field. Maybe next Friday against Yale!
Quote from: mike1960Did anyone at the game get a picture of people sitting in the bleachers on the west side of the field?
I took a couple short videos from those bleachers. Watched the game with one of my kids (freshman at Cornell) from there. A smidge low for my taste even near the top since the bleachers don't have that many rows, but close to the field so you could hear the on-field player chatter and hits well, so fun place to watch from.
Quote from: jjanow99Quote from: SwampyThis could be a classic trap game. Dartmouth has won some respect this year and has nothing to lose next weekend except their pride. Meanwhile, Cornell might be lulled into a false sense of security by Dartmouth's history & record. Cornell also might be looking ahead to the ILT & Memorial Day.
I guess we have our answer, yes this was indeed a trap game. Dartmouth goalie made some great safes, and we're fortunate to come out ahead.
Spot on response.
Trap game
Almost "Goalied"
Lesser versions of Cornell lacrosse would have lost this game....this year's squad did enough to win.
Thinks this speaks volumes for the maturity of the players and coaching staff!
Looking forward to May
Watching Kirst's steal and feed to Firth on goal #7, I love how he played rope-a-dope by just jogging up the field and then reaching out his stick at the last second. He knew where Dartmouth player was going to be passing and gave him plenty of room to do it.