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Title: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: billhoward on April 06, 2025, 12:53:23 AM
Damn shame about the fine young players of Duke losing a late double digit lead to Houston and falling by three in the NCAA men's basketball semifinals. In the second half Houston didn't lead until the last 20 seconds. Nothing like allowing Houston an 11-1 run in just over a minute and a 7-0 run inside 15 seconds. Player of the year Cooper Flagg missed the go-ahead shot with 8 seconds left. Final, 70-67.

This caused me a pair of sports-PTSD-related Cornell flashbacks flashbacks: Big Red up 9-6 on Syracuse in the 2009 lacrosse title game, still up 9-8 with :03 left, lost in OT. And the 1973 NCAA semifinal hockey in Boston Garden, up 5-2 on Wisconsin early in the third period, Badgers tied with :05 left, and we lost in OT. I almost sympathize with the Blue Devils. Almost.

It hurts more when you're there in person.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: Trotsky on April 06, 2025, 12:06:38 PM
"Duke Loses" vs "Hedge Fund Fails (https://theonion.com/finance-guy-doing-cocaine-in-sad-way-this-time/)," who ya got?
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2025, 01:06:12 PM
Houston has a few fine young men also. Kelvin would not let them give up. Houston scrapped, bodied up, made shots. It was an incredibly impressive performance to keep working when defeat seemed certain.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: chimpfood on April 16, 2025, 10:37:01 PM
Xavian Lee to Florida
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: billhoward on April 18, 2025, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: chimpfood[Princeton junior guard, unanimous All-Ivy] Xavian Lee to Florida
The Ivy League is become a sports-prep-school feeder for big-money NCAA basketball.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: ugarte on April 18, 2025, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodXavian Lee to Florida
mixed feelings about him leaving the conference for the usual reasons but from what i've seen idk if he's going to thrive in the sec
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: billhoward on April 18, 2025, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: chimpfoodXavian Lee to Florida
mixed feelings about him leaving the conference for the usual reasons but from what i've seen idk if he's going to thrive in the sec
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This lad done gonna find out. If he succeeds at Florida, it means Ivy players can play with that best. We can take some consolation in that.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: upprdeck on April 18, 2025, 02:38:46 PM
It will be an interesting metric.

He is a 43% shooter and 33% from 3.  Just avg
Avg 17 per game the last 2 seasons. He doesnt steal the ball playing against mostly lower level talent. Only 3 assists per game as well.

His only P5 game last year vs Rutgers he shot 30% but scored 21 as het got to the line 8 times.

year before shot 30% vs UNLV and 33% vs rutgers again

Maybe he has another gear.  he hasnt really shown it.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: chimpfood on April 18, 2025, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: upprdeckIt will be an interesting metric.

He is a 43% shooter and 33% from 3.  Just avg
Avg 17 per game the last 2 seasons. He doesnt steal the ball playing against mostly lower level talent. Only 3 assists per game as well.

His only P5 game last year vs Rutgers he shot 30% but scored 21 as het got to the line 8 times.

year before shot 30% vs UNLV and 33% vs rutgers again

Maybe he has another gear.  he hasnt really shown it.
Every time I've watched him in person hes been awful. That's been our home games vs Princeton and both Ivy tournament games so I'm not sure he's a big game player.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: rss77 on April 18, 2025, 05:22:14 PM
As I said before was not impressed with him.  Nice money though-congrats to him. Playing in the SEC will not make him a better player-either you got it or you don't to play in the NBA
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: scoop85 on April 18, 2025, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: upprdeckIt will be an interesting metric.

He is a 43% shooter and 33% from 3.  Just avg
Avg 17 per game the last 2 seasons. He doesnt steal the ball playing against mostly lower level talent. Only 3 assists per game as well.

His only P5 game last year vs Rutgers he shot 30% but scored 21 as het got to the line 8 times.

year before shot 30% vs UNLV and 33% vs rutgers again

Maybe he has another gear.  he hasnt really shown it.
Every time I've watched him in person hes been awful. That's been our home games vs Princeton and both Ivy tournament games so I'm not sure he's a big game player.

The NBA talk for this guy? I just don't get it. Matt Morgan was/is a better player, and while he's done well in Europe, he's not quite NBA level. Neither is Lee.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: chimpfood on April 18, 2025, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: upprdeckIt will be an interesting metric.

He is a 43% shooter and 33% from 3.  Just avg
Avg 17 per game the last 2 seasons. He doesnt steal the ball playing against mostly lower level talent. Only 3 assists per game as well.

His only P5 game last year vs Rutgers he shot 30% but scored 21 as het got to the line 8 times.

year before shot 30% vs UNLV and 33% vs rutgers again

Maybe he has another gear.  he hasnt really shown it.
Every time I've watched him in person hes been awful. That's been our home games vs Princeton and both Ivy tournament games so I'm not sure he's a big game player.

The NBA talk for this guy? I just don't get it. Matt Morgan was/is a better player, and while he's done well in Europe, he's not quite NBA level. Neither is Lee.
NBA summer league legend.

But to defend Lee, there's more to being a prospect than just the numbers and I think Lee is definitely a better prospect than Morgan. He is bigger, has better handles, and played in an ivy that is stronger than what Morgan faced. His FG% is disappointing but it seems likes he is taking a lot of tough shots from isolation with his defender, ironically not the open shots that you'd expect with the "Princeton offense" which we do better than them at this point. But yeah overall I do not see him being an NBA caliber player and I wouldn't be surprised if he loses his starting role at Florida by the end of the year. Genuinely cheering for the guy though.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: billhoward on April 19, 2025, 08:54:39 AM
Quote from: chimpfoodlorem
Quote from: upprdeckipsetur
QuoteEvery time I've watched him in person hes been awful. That's been our home games vs Princeton and both Ivy tournament games so I'm not sure he's a big game player.
Maybe you're the jinx. Put your superpower to work. Go see some more Harvard hockey games, let's see if those Cantabrigians with the three last names in their names (Taylor Winthrop Charles III) now unravel faster versus Quinnipiac, Colgate, Clarkson. Consider it a farewell gift to Mike and a welcome-back present to Casey.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: scoop85 on April 20, 2025, 02:10:30 PM
247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: ugarte on April 20, 2025, 06:50:34 PM
Penn's Sam Brown is transferring to Davidson.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: scoop85 on April 22, 2025, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: BearLover on April 22, 2025, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 22, 2025, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: BearLover on April 22, 2025, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
While that would be nice, Manon would surely not have graduated a year early if Cornell were at parity with the other programs he could transfer to, so graduate eligibility isn't the issue here.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: rss77 on April 22, 2025, 05:24:15 PM
According to Ivy League, Chat Cooper Noard just entered the portal.  Wonder if Coach Jacques has any one coming through the portal? And see that Penn alums want to set up a collective.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: chimpfood on April 22, 2025, 06:36:48 PM
Quote from: rss77According to Ivy League, Chat Cooper Noard just entered the portal.  Wonder if Coach Jacques has any one coming through the portal? And see that Penn alums want to set up a collective.
Wow that sucks. Down to one returning starter now
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: ugarte on April 22, 2025, 11:45:29 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
While that would be nice, Manon would surely not have graduated a year early if Cornell were at parity with the other programs he could transfer to, so graduate eligibility isn't the issue here.
Did Manon graduated "early" or was he enrolled in classes during the COVID year?
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: BearLover on April 23, 2025, 04:45:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
While that would be nice, Manon would surely not have graduated a year early if Cornell were at parity with the other programs he could transfer to, so graduate eligibility isn't the issue here.
Did Manon graduated "early" or was he enrolled in classes during the COVID year?
Oops, I meant Okereke (that's who we were talking about)
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 23, 2025, 06:33:35 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
While that would be nice, Manon would surely not have graduated a year early if Cornell were at parity with the other programs he could transfer to, so graduate eligibility isn't the issue here.
The subject was Okereke.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 23, 2025, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: scoop85247 sports predicts Okereke will follow Manon's lead and transfer to Vanderbilt for his final collegiate season.

Okereke to Vandy is confirmed. He'll have 2 yeas of eligibility there. He's going to be a good player for them.
Depressing. Maybe one day some rich alum will pony up the money to put a stop to this.
He or she will also have to bribe the Ivy decision-makers to allow grad students to play sports.  Doesn't take much to depress you.
While that would be nice, Manon would surely not have graduated a year early if Cornell were at parity with the other programs he could transfer to, so graduate eligibility isn't the issue here.
So you've spoken with Okereke, otherwise your "surely" is bullshit.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: BearLover on April 23, 2025, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: rss77According to Ivy League, Chat Cooper Noard just entered the portal.  Wonder if Coach Jacques has any one coming through the portal? And see that Penn alums want to set up a collective.
Wow that sucks. Down to one returning starter now
It's obviously really bad for next year but I think more important is that the transfer portal/NIL is an existential crisis for Cornell/Ivy basketball beyond next season. It really seems like it's going to take an NIL collective plus rich donors to save it.
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: CAS on May 01, 2025, 01:26:15 PM
Cooper Noard has withdrawn his name from the transfer portal & will return to play his senior season at Cornell!
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: chimpfood on May 01, 2025, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: CASCooper Noard has withdrawn his name from the transfer portal & will return to play his senior season at Cornell!
Thank goodness
Title: Re: NCAA basketball 2025
Post by: billhoward on May 05, 2025, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: rss77According to Ivy League, Chat Cooper Noard just entered the portal.  Wonder if Coach Jacques has any one coming through the portal? And see that Penn alums want to set up a collective.
Whereas Cornell students haven't even, I believe, set up a collective farm.