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My apologies - I'm not very tech savvy. Hopefully this link came through okay.
I'm a Boston Bruins fan and was reading the Stanley Cup of Chowder fan forum. Sounds like Dalton Bancroft is generating a lot of interest from pro teams. Seeing Haymes, Prokop, Taylor, etc sign pro contracts after their junior year makes me worry that we may lose some players before they've used up their eligibility. Traditionally Cornell has been good with holding onto their guys. Barron and Malinski obviously stayed all four years. I believe Nash and Greening did too. Even going back to Matt Moulson and Douglas Murray, I believe they stayed. I know I'm extremely biased but I think the draw of playing at Cornell is just different than other schools. A packed Lynah Rink for every home game, a full MSG every single year and more Cornell fans than home fans at opposing teams rinks. I'm hopeful that our guys realize what a great thing they have at CU!
Sorry about the depressing post before such a big game tomorrow. Just wanted to share.
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My apologies - I'm not very tech savvy. Hopefully this link came through okay.
I'm a Boston Bruins fan and was reading the Stanley Cup of Chowder fan forum. Sounds like Dalton Bancroft is generating a lot of interest from pro teams. Seeing Haymes, Prokop, Taylor, etc sign pro contracts after their junior year makes me worry that we may lose some players before they've used up their eligibility. Traditionally Cornell has been good with holding onto their guys. Barron and Malinski obviously stayed all four years. I believe Nash and Greening did too. Even going back to Matt Moulson and Douglas Murray, I believe they stayed. I know I'm extremely biased but I think the draw of playing at Cornell is just different than other schools. A packed Lynah Rink for every home game, a full MSG every single year and more Cornell fans than home fans at opposing teams rinks. I'm hopeful that our guys realize what a great thing they have at CU!
Sorry about the depressing post before such a big game tomorrow. Just wanted to share.
Greening, Moulson, Murray (late round picks) stayed all four years
Nash (1st round pick) stayed three years
Barron (late round pick) stayed three years, but he was on campus for his senior year and left when it became clear the Ivies would cancel the season for COVID. Possible he would have left anyway, but that made his decision clear. Same for Alex Green (fourth round pick)
Bancroft is different from those players in that he wasn't drafted, so he may have more teams coming after him than just his draft team. Still, isn't the source for this some random guy on an Internet comments section?
Oh, I found the article to which this commenter is apparently referring: https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-amongst-a-handful-of-teams-interested-in-signing-cornells-dalton-bancroft
Not good.
Thanks Bear.
It is some random guy but I check Stanley Cup of Chowder daily right after looking through the elynah forum. This guy is pretty dialed in with prospects, draft picks, free agents, etc. I give his take a good amount of credibility though I hope he's wrong in this case.
I know Cornell loses a lot to graduation this year but if everyone returns combined with some excellent recruits (very excited about Veillieux and Pirtle) I think they'll be a contender in the ECAC once again. (Goaltending is the obvious question mark next season).
The coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
Quote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.
Quote from: chimpfoodQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.
Bancroft's 24, so a guy that age may want to get his pro career going. He can finish 1 year of college without too much trouble.
Quote from: chimpfoodQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.
I agree. I don't understand leaving for a minor league contract unless you think you're already dominant at the college level and don't have much more to learn/gain from staying put.
Bancroft is a great college player but he isn't going straight to the NHL so it will probably come down to him considering what's best for his development and how much he likes being a Cornell hockey player.
There have been a lot of early departures from other Ivies recently. For whatever that's worth.
Quote from: BearLoverThat pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Pro pedigree doesn't have to mean NHL pedigree. You still require certain physical attributes to play professionally or all of us would have. There are also plenty of players who have exceeded the accomplishments of their parents in the pro game. While the dream is the NHL, you can have a terrific career playing in the minors or overseas and finish your degree at the same time or later in life.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: chimpfoodQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: VIEWfromKThe coaching change might play into some decisions as well. Even though Jones has been with the team all year it is still going to be different. I wouldn't blame anyone for exploring an opportunity to turn pro if it exists. Bancroft has pro pedigree from his father, plays a pretty good two way game, has the physique, has some swagger. It will be interesting.
That pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Its always surprising to me when guys leave an Ivy League education and one of the better teams in college hockey to rot in the AHL/ECHL a year early. Any of these guys leaving is kidding themselves if they think theyre going straight to the NHL. Why not stay? The one argument I could think of is that they can still finish their degree and they get to play more games and focus more on hockey in the pros but hopefully Bancroft sees the value of staying.
Bancroft's 24, so a guy that age may want to get his pro career going. He can finish 1 year of college without too much trouble.
Many of the guys who determine that they have a realistic chance of playing high level pro hockey plan their academic schedule to maximize the opportunity to graduate, if not in the 4 years at Cornell than at some point after leaving early. Several of the players you name as staying for 4 years actually left after Cornell's season ended to play professionally. They took INC's or enrolled in a lot of classes that finished after the first half of the semester in the spring of senior year.
Since online courses proliferated, it is a lot easier to get a degree if the education is important to a player [and often, his/her parents].
Hopefully (For us) this quote is meaningful.
Quote"So, there was never really any pressure on me, and I've kept that same approach even now and through my whole college career. You gotta just enjoy the moment. College is four of the best years of your life, and that's when you meet your best friends," he continued. "Your classmates you come in with, your teammates you spend six or seven hours a day together, and that's an experience that you can't get anywhere else. So, I live by that every day. Just enjoy every day and put my friends and family first, and hopefully everything in the hockey world goes the right way."
Source: https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-amongst-a-handful-of-teams-interested-in-signing-cornells-dalton-bancroft
Quote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: BearLoverThat pro pedigree consisted of two games in the NHL and the rest of his career in the minors. If that's the future, better off staying in school.
Pro pedigree doesn't have to mean NHL pedigree. You still require certain physical attributes to play professionally or all of us would have. There are also plenty of players who have exceeded the accomplishments of their parents in the pro game. While the dream is the NHL, you can have a terrific career playing in the minors or overseas and finish your degree at the same time or later in life.
idk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
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idk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard[/quote]
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
Quote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: ugarteidk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: ugarte
idk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.[/quote]
But is there still a swimming test?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: ugarteidk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.
::whistle::
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHQuote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: ugarteidk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.
But is there still a swimming test?
https://scl.cornell.edu/news-events/news/water-competency-focus-modernized-swim-requirement
Quote from: ACMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHQuote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: ugarteidk some of you don't seem that bright either and i definitely don't work very hard
Now wait a minute. I didn't see anywhere it said that I had to be intelligent to post here
They dropped the eLynah entrance exam requirement about 8 years ago.
But is there still a swimming test?
https://scl.cornell.edu/news-events/news/water-competency-focus-modernized-swim-requirement
I meant for eLynah, not for Cornell in General.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But is there still a swimming test?
don't tell anyone but i never took the swimming test. nobody ever asked! i knew it was a requirement but i never got a notification about how to register and that was not the first or last time i didn't do something that dependent on initiative from me.
I was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
Quote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
I remember thinking that everyone looked so slow.
Then I finished like a full length behind everyone else in my group.
Quote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
I took the lifeguard qualification course at Teagle in the fall of 1982. Any chance you were in that course, Snowball?
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
I took the lifeguard qualification course at Teagle in the fall of 1982. Any chance you were in that course, Snowball?
Ah no. I was qualified before. But I worked at Teagle from about 1983-1985. Did you work there?
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But is there still a swimming test?
don't tell anyone but i never took the swimming test. nobody ever asked! i knew it was a requirement but i never got a notification about how to register and that was not the first or last time i didn't do something that dependent on initiative from me.
I almost got away with that as well, until I got an email from the registrar during April of my senior year, informing me that they were aware and that my diploma would be withheld until I completed the test (which I quickly did). So yes: they did start actually "enforcing" it at some point.
Quote from: sah67Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But is there still a swimming test?
don't tell anyone but i never took the swimming test. nobody ever asked! i knew it was a requirement but i never got a notification about how to register and that was not the first or last time i didn't do something that dependent on initiative from me.
I almost got away with that as well, until I got an email from the registrar during April of my senior year, informing me that they were aware and that my diploma would be withheld until I completed the test (which I quickly did). So yes: they did start actually "enforcing" it at some point.
i figured maybe they didn't say anything to transfers; i'm pretty sure a friend of mine got that tap on the shoulder.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: sah67Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But is there still a swimming test?
don't tell anyone but i never took the swimming test. nobody ever asked! i knew it was a requirement but i never got a notification about how to register and that was not the first or last time i didn't do something that dependent on initiative from me.
I almost got away with that as well, until I got an email from the registrar during April of my senior year, informing me that they were aware and that my diploma would be withheld until I completed the test (which I quickly did). So yes: they did start actually "enforcing" it at some point.
i figured maybe they didn't say anything to transfers; i'm pretty sure a friend of mine got that tap on the shoulder.
I think transfers were officially exempt until very recently:
QuoteStarting in Fall 2025, transfer students entering Cornell will be required to take physical education classes for credit and meet the swim requirement.
https://scl.cornell.edu/pe/swim-requirement
Quote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
A lot of kids aren't taught how to swim.
Quote from: ERQuote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
A lot of kids aren't taught how to swim.
Students complain about the swim test but think about the number of accessible swimming holes in the Ithaca area and how dangerous many of them are even if you can swim. I knew a student whose cousin drowned at a family picnic in Georgia. Not only was the boy a non-swimmer, no one in the family could swim well enough to save him. I am not sure whether this is still factual, but at the time, a lot of non-white American children were not taught how to swim. No access to pools and/or community programs set up to teach that skill set.
Quote from: dag14Quote from: ERQuote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
A lot of kids aren't taught how to swim.
Students complain about the swim test but think about the number of accessible swimming holes in the Ithaca area and how dangerous many of them are even if you can swim. I knew a student whose cousin drowned at a family picnic in Georgia. Not only was the boy a non-swimmer, no one in the family could swim well enough to save him. I am not sure whether this is still factual, but at the time, a lot of non-white American children were not taught how to swim. No access to pools and/or community programs set up to teach that skill set.
That's very sad and yes it's true a lot of kids don't learn how to swim. In my experience at Cornell the students who flunked the test were mostly foreigners, where I worked at a CT lake in the summer it was mostly inner-city kids who had a lot of trouble. The test Cornell currently has is better than the "swim 25 yards" test as learning a variety of skills like floating are important.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: SnowballI was a lifeguard at Teagle in the 80s and I used to "watch over" that test. You wouldn't believe how many students flunked it.
I took the lifeguard qualification course at Teagle in the fall of 1982. Any chance you were in that course, Snowball?
Ah no. I was qualified before. But I worked at Teagle from about 1983-1985. Did you work there?
Nope. Never worked there.
I did lifeguard all the summers between freshman and senior year, based on having been certified at Teagle freshman year.
Re Barron and pro interest in him from rg.org, what a tough-love lede in this story:
>>> While he can't sign until his team is bounced from the 2025 NCAA tournament, big winger Dalton Bancroft is drawing plenty of interest on the NCAA free agent circuit.
Source: https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-amongst-a-handful-of-teams-interested-in-signing-cornells-dalton-bancroft
Quote from: billhowardRe Barron and pro interest in him from rg.org, what a tough-love lede in this story:
Bancroft, right?
You ok, bill?
Lol how did we get onto talking about the swim test...
Here is our blurb from ESPN+ story on the prospects to watch this tourney:
www.espn.com.au/nhl/insider/story/_/id/44403401/nhl-top-prospects-2025-ncaa-men-hockey-tournament-frozen-four (paywall)
Cornell Big Red
Ondrej Psenicka and Dalton Bancroft
Cornell has two players that scouts will be watching closely, as both are free agents drawing significant interest.
Psenicka stands out for a few reasons, starting with his 6-foot-6 height. The 24-year-old Czech uses his size to his advantage, leaning on defenders, bullying his way to the middle of the ice and winning battles. He lacks flashy offensive talent but is positionally sound, makes quality defensive plays and wreaks havoc at the net front. NHL clubs love big guys who are reliable and will do the dirty work, so it is easy to see why teams think Psenicka could be a reasonable bet to play bottom-six NHL minutes in the next few seasons.
Bancroft is one of the more interesting players to watch at the tournament. There are times where Bancroft looks dominant, beating defenders with ease, creating chances and catching goalies by surprise with an NHL-quality release, which is sure to bring fans out of their seats. There are questions as to whether he plays with enough pace to score at the professional level, but if he doesn't, there is a path to being a bottom-six, defensive checking winger who chips in occasionally on offense.