2010, 2011, 2012, 2019, (2020),
2025
LET'S GO RED!!
Quote from: RichH2010, 2011, 2012, 2019, (2020),
2025
LET'S GO RED!!
Agreed on title! LGR. Ohio State, then winner of Wisconsin/Minnesota.
Looks like we're playing *an* Ohio State University. Don't know much about them, honestly.
After getting the #1 seed and being rewarded with an under-ranked Clarkson in the ECAC SF then doing all the hard work to get the #3 seed, we "got" to play a huge powerhouse in UMD, I'm just fine with Wisconsin getting to play the host team Minny for once. After what I saw today, anyone can win this.
Quote from: RichHLooks like we're playing *an* Ohio State University. Don't know much about them, honestly.
After getting the #1 seed and being rewarded with an under-ranked Clarkson in the ECAC SF then doing all the hard work to get the #3 seed, we "got" to play a huge powerhouse in UMD, I'm just fine with Wisconsin getting to play the host team Minny for once. After what I saw today, anyone can win this.
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Sure, but Wisconsin has to be the overwhelming favorite.
Wisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
Minn D played them three times and lost 2-1 twice and 3-1
Quote from: RichHLooks like we're playing *an* Ohio State University. Don't know much about them, honestly.
After getting the #1 seed and being rewarded with an under-ranked Clarkson in the ECAC SF then doing all the hard work to get the #3 seed, we "got" to play a huge powerhouse in UMD, I'm just fine with Wisconsin getting to play the host team Minny for once. After what I saw today, anyone can win this.
Wisconsin is the heavy favorite, their women's team is an absolute unit and they have I wanna say 4 Patty Kaz finalists on their roster. OSU is very good too. While I think we can stand up to OSU and make it competitive, if not win (I don't want to jinx anything), Wisconsin, though...
This is the NPI rankings for the top four.
Wisconsin 69.112
Ohio St. 61.413
Cornell 60.733
Minnesota 60.327
Yeah. If Minnesota pulls out the upset I will be ecstatic.
Quote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
Cue up Herb Brooks (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechmiracle3.html)
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: RichHLooks like we're playing *an* Ohio State University. Don't know much about them, honestly.
After getting the #1 seed and being rewarded with an under-ranked Clarkson in the ECAC SF then doing all the hard work to get the #3 seed, we "got" to play a huge powerhouse in UMD, I'm just fine with Wisconsin getting to play the host team Minny for once. After what I saw today, anyone can win this.
Wisconsin is the heavy favorite, their women's team is an absolute unit and they have I wanna say 4 Patty Kaz finalists on their roster. OSU is very good too. While I think we can stand up to OSU and make it competitive, if not win (I don't want to jinx anything), Wisconsin, though...
This is the NPI rankings for the top four.
Wisconsin 69.112
Ohio St. 61.413
Cornell 60.733
Minnesota 60.327
Yeah. If Minnesota pulls out the upset I will be ecstatic.
Remember it's played at the Minny rink. So that certainly helps them.
If Wisc beats Minny, you wonder if some of the fans, if we beat OSU, would root for us?
It's not that Minn likes Wisc.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: stereaxQuote from: RichHLooks like we're playing *an* Ohio State University. Don't know much about them, honestly.
After getting the #1 seed and being rewarded with an under-ranked Clarkson in the ECAC SF then doing all the hard work to get the #3 seed, we "got" to play a huge powerhouse in UMD, I'm just fine with Wisconsin getting to play the host team Minny for once. After what I saw today, anyone can win this.
Wisconsin is the heavy favorite, their women's team is an absolute unit and they have I wanna say 4 Patty Kaz finalists on their roster. OSU is very good too. While I think we can stand up to OSU and make it competitive, if not win (I don't want to jinx anything), Wisconsin, though...
This is the NPI rankings for the top four.
Wisconsin 69.112
Ohio St. 61.413
Cornell 60.733
Minnesota 60.327
Yeah. If Minnesota pulls out the upset I will be ecstatic.
Remember it's played at the Minny rink. So that certainly helps them.
If Wisc beats Minny, you wonder if some of the fans, if we beat OSU, would root for us?
It's not that Minn likes Wisc.
Possibly, yeah. I think it's the world vs Wisconsin to an extent.
Given who their coach is, probably not the best choice.
https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/mark-johnson/2434
Women's Frozen Four tickets are already sold out. (https://www.bigredtix.com/event/2025-ncaa-womens-ice-hockey-frozen-four-51wyrb)
Quote from: stereaxWomen's Frozen Four tickets are already sold out. (https://www.bigredtix.com/event/2025-ncaa-womens-ice-hockey-frozen-four-51wyrb)
Not surprising, considering the arena only seats 3,400 and UM is in the Frozen Four
Quote from: CUlater 89Given who their coach is, probably not the best choice.
https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/mark-johnson/2434
I'm not sure what you mean by this?
Miracle on Ice. He's good at taking on the world.
Quote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
This reminds me of the 2022 men's lax tournament where you had an overwhelming favorite in Maryland seen as unbeatable. Cornell benefited from a few upsets to make the Final, and fell short of a remarkable comeback.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
This reminds me of the 2022 men's lax tournament where you had an overwhelming favorite in Maryland seen as unbeatable. Cornell benefited from a few upsets to make the Final, and fell short of a remarkable comeback.
Cornell most of all benefitted from not having to play Maryland until the final. On the way to the finals they beat OSU, Delaware, and Rutgers, none of whom IIRC were favored over Cornell.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
This reminds me of the 2022 men's lax tournament where you had an overwhelming favorite in Maryland seen as unbeatable. Cornell benefited from a few upsets to make the Final, and fell short of a remarkable comeback.
Did you have to?
Couldn't you come up with a remind where we won?**]
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: RichHQuote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
This reminds me of the 2022 men's lax tournament where you had an overwhelming favorite in Maryland seen as unbeatable. Cornell benefited from a few upsets to make the Final, and fell short of a remarkable comeback.
Cornell most of all benefitted from not having to play Maryland until the final. On the way to the finals they beat OSU, Delaware, and Rutgers, none of whom IIRC were favored over Cornell.
Cornell was the 7 seed. Unseeded Delaware shocked #2 Georgetown, and then #6 Rutgers (ranked as high as 3 entering the postseason) took care of #3 Penn. Going by seeding, Rutgers was above us. Everything about the bracket fell our way (for once!!) including being on the opposite side of the Terp juggernaut.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: RichHQuote from: dbilmesWisconsin has only lost once all season and most of their games haven't been close.
This reminds me of the 2022 men's lax tournament where you had an overwhelming favorite in Maryland seen as unbeatable. Cornell benefited from a few upsets to make the Final, and fell short of a remarkable comeback.
Did you have to?
Couldn't you come up with a remind where we won?**]
I wasn't paying attention in 1977.
Or in the 1980 ECAC tournament where CU won as an 8 seed, but I don't know if there was a huge favorite.
There was the 1996 ECAC tournament where St. Louis, and Perrin's (Keebler Elves) UVM were huge favorites, but fell to Harvard in the SF, and Schafer's team gladly took that trash out to win his first. Is that a better story? I didn't see UVM as unbeatable, as we tied them twice that year. With Tim Thomas smashing his stick at the buzzer in frustration at Lynah.
Good story on the 'Sconsin ladies juggernaut from ESPN:
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/44208024/wisconsin-womens-hockey-looks-cap-one-best-seasons-ever-national-title
Coach Derraugh has an incredible record coaching Cornell women's hockey. He took the team to the national championship final game in his third year as coach. Even more amazing is that he had EIGHTEEN players on the roster in 2010, including 2 goaltenders. So that is 16 skaters. Period. That team lost the national championship in TRIPLE OVERTIME! Can you imagine what effort and commitment it took from everyone -- not just the stars -- to play that hard for that long? I am not surprised that the 2024-25 team has done so well, given the coach's experience and his expectations, as well as the commitment that these players demonstrate by being part of this team. I will be cheering from my living room on Friday because of a doctor's apointment I must keep, but am hoping for a chance to cheer in person at the championship game on Sunday.
Quote from: RichHThere was the 1996 ECAC tournament where St. Louis, and Perrin's (Keebler Elves) UVM were huge favorites, but fell to Harvard in the SF, and Schafer's team gladly took that trash out to win his first. Is that a better story? I didn't see UVM as unbeatable, as we tied them twice that year. With Tim Thomas smashing his stick at the buzzer in frustration at Lynah.
Thomas broke his stick the next year after we beat them 6-4 at Lynah! You were back from Rah-cha-cha.
In 1996, you are completely right: they were beatable, and we would've beaten them eventually, if it hadn't been for (****) Lake State. Ding!
I can only imagine the number of stick checks.
Is anyone going to Minnesota? If so, would someone be willing to pick up a t-shirt with the 4 teams on it if they have it for my wife and I will pay you when you get back.
Thanks Frank
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: RichHThere was the 1996 ECAC tournament where St. Louis, and Perrin's (Keebler Elves) UVM were huge favorites, but fell to Harvard in the SF, and Schafer's team gladly took that trash out to win his first. Is that a better story? I didn't see UVM as unbeatable, as we tied them twice that year. With Tim Thomas smashing his stick at the buzzer in frustration at Lynah.
Thomas broke his stick the next year after we beat them 6-4 at Lynah! You were back from Rah-cha-cha.
In 1996, you are completely right: they were beatable, and we would've beaten them eventually, if it hadn't been for (****) Lake State. Ding!
I can only imagine the number of stick checks.
That UVM game at Lynah was my first ever time watching hockey live. Instantly hooked.
First time watching women's hockey was about a year later, a good buddy of mine was covering the team for the Sun. Instantly hooked again, they had a strong year. After that I watched some increasingly grim seasons and sadly left just before Derraugh took over. I'm so happy to see the program thriving.
Quote from: Tom LentoQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: RichHThere was the 1996 ECAC tournament where St. Louis, and Perrin's (Keebler Elves) UVM were huge favorites, but fell to Harvard in the SF, and Schafer's team gladly took that trash out to win his first. Is that a better story? I didn't see UVM as unbeatable, as we tied them twice that year. With Tim Thomas smashing his stick at the buzzer in frustration at Lynah.
Thomas broke his stick the next year after we beat them 6-4 at Lynah! You were back from Rah-cha-cha.
In 1996, you are completely right: they were beatable, and we would've beaten them eventually, if it hadn't been for (****) Lake State. Ding!
I can only imagine the number of stick checks.
That UVM game at Lynah was my first ever time watching hockey live. Instantly hooked.
First time watching women's hockey was about a year later, a good buddy of mine was covering the team for the Sun. Instantly hooked again, they had a strong year. After that I watched some increasingly grim seasons and sadly left just before Derraugh took over. I'm so happy to see the program thriving.
Tom just did the impossible and brought thread drift back on topic. Masterful!
Cornell lost, I thought, no problem, they'll be back next year or the year after, get it then. Now, 25 years later, another chance.
Wall Street Journal and sportswriter Jason Gay writes today on the women's Frozen Four. Gay (Wisconsin '92) mostly writes on how dominant the Badgers are this year, Ohio State is really good, and by the way Cornell or Minnesota are there also.
Story: https://www.wsj.com/sports/hockey/wisconsin-womens-hockey-powerhouse-frozen-four-d0f07b2e?st=YudyMZ&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
OSU already up 1-0, 2 minutes in.
Quote from: sah67OSU already up 1-0, 2 minutes in.
Now 2-0. Cornell looking sloppy.
It's not lookin great...
I only saw the 1st goal, but it was off an unfortunate turnover.
Quote from: stereaxIt's not lookin great...
Yeah: OSU looks like they've been on the PP for the last few minutes. We're pretty "deer in the headlights" at the moment.
Quote from: scoop85I only saw the 1st goal, but it was off an unfortunate turnover.
Second goal was a wild bounce. Overall though Ohio State is very good, they're really keeping Cornell on their heels. Incredible puck movement even strength.
SOG now 11-3 in favor of OSU and they're going on the pp: not good.
We killed it!
A nice little flurry finally at the end of the Ohio State power play: our first shots on goal in seemingly 10 or 12 minutes.
Quote from: sah67SOG now 11-3 in favor of OSU and they're going on the pp: not good.
Killed off and Cornell with a scoring chance off what felt like their only controlled zone entry of the period. Still 2-0 and OSU back in control.
Argh so close to getting one at the end of the period!
End of 1, 2-0 OSU. SOG 15-8 OSU, with 5 of ours coming in the final 2 minutes.
Derraugh told in-period interviewer that Cornell is being too "passive" at both ends of the ice.
Quote from: dbilmesDerraugh told in-period interviewer that Cornell is being too "passive" at both ends of the ice.
He said something about responding to the way OSU's D are jumping up in the play, curious to see if Cornell makes some adjustments and comes out stronger in the second.
Good Cornell contingent here at Ridder. Band sounds very good.
2-1!
Quote from: Tom Lento2-1!
2-2!!!!! Go Red!!!!
The crowd here is going NUTS.
Quote from: stereaxThe crowd here is going NUTS.
Incredible 2nd period. Nearly went ahead in the last couple of minutes. Keep it up red!
IT IS KILLING ME THAT THE BREAKS ARE AT THE SAME TIME
Just saw the Jockims goal and oh my
Quote from: ugarteJust saw the Jockims goal and oh my
A thing of beauty.
Wisconsin and Minnesota fans starting to filter in. Seem to be rooting for Cornell for the most part.
Quote from: ugarteJust saw the Jockims goal and oh my
Cornell has snipers!! Magnificent shots, both goals.
Quote from: WederWisconsin and Minnesota fans starting to filter in. Seem to be rooting for Cornell for the most part.
Definitely saw a Minnesota fan celebrating loudly for the Jockims goal on the replay.
3-2 OSU
4-2 on a nice poke of a rebound. looks like the same woman who popped in #3.
OSU has a lot of dangerous offensive weapons, clearly. There is perhaps a wee bit of a talent imbalance with the top tier WCHA schools, but we have nothing to be ashamed of.
Quote from: imafrshmnWe have nothing to be ashamed of.
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had chances to get 3-2 lead but OSU was the better team
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: imafrshmnWe have nothing to be ashamed of.
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A great effort and a wonderful ride. Thank you, ladies.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: imafrshmnWe have nothing to be ashamed of.
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A great effort and a wonderful ride. Thank you, ladies.
Insanely fun season. Can't wait for next year.
This team was a pleasure to follow.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: imafrshmnWe have nothing to be ashamed of.
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A great effort and a wonderful ride. Thank you, ladies.
Insanely fun season. Can't wait for next year.
We're losing a Messier and gaining a McDavid
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: stereaxQuote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: imafrshmnWe have nothing to be ashamed of.
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A great effort and a wonderful ride. Thank you, ladies.
Insanely fun season. Can't wait for next year.
We're losing a Messier and gaining a McDavid
God, I almost forgot I'm gonna get to watch a McDavid next year.
First time I've been to a women's or men's Frozen Four, and I'm so glad I made it. I could only make it for tonight, so I would have been very torn if Cornell had won today. But, Ivy champs, ECAC RS champs, ECAC tournament champs, NCAA Frozen Four. What a season.
Watching a bit of the Wisconsin-Minnesota semi, it is pretty unbelievable seeing how overloaded the Badgers are with top talent (all 3 Patty Kaz finalists!). It sounds like sour grapes, which I don't intend... the only wine that hasn't aged well was the 2019-20 Big Red season; we never got to see what they were capable of.
Quote from: imafrshmnWatching a bit of the Wisconsin-Minnesota semi, it is pretty unbelievable seeing how overloaded the Badgers are with top talent (all 3 Patty Kaz finalists!). It sounds like sour grapes, which I don't intend... the only wine that hasn't aged well was the 2019-20 Big Red season; we never got to see what they were capable of.
Between the second and third periods, ESPN ran a short piece -- narrated by Jeremy Schaap -- about the heartbreaking way Cornell's season ended that year. It featured comments from one of the players on that team, who noted that the seniors were convinced that was their year. I had forgotten that Cornell was the No. 1 overall seed in the NCAA tournament, and we had gone undefeated (19-0-3) in the ECAC regular season.
Not starting a new thread for a team that isn't Cornell but ... wild start to the final. Ohio State scores a shorty on a coast to coast carry that she closed with a great deke. Wisconsin tied it up with a PPG seconds later.
And now OSU up 3-1 early in the 2nd. IMO, it shows that our women could have kept up with Wisconsin.
3-2 after two.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82And now OSU up 3-1 early in the 2nd. IMO, it shows that our women could have kept up with Wisconsin.
Cornell is definitely in the mix of teams that had a legitimate chance to win the title this year. Stylistically, the Big Red women in some ways resemble the Schafer formula. We thrive on good goaltending and controlling the tempo, which is tough to do coming from behind. The knock against us is that the great teams don't let us have the moments to mentally collect ourselves. It's in part a philosophical question: go for control or thrive in chaos? Coach Derraugh certainly has his own biases.
High drama with 18 seconds left: Wisconsin on the power play challenges that an OSU player covered the puck with her hand in the crease, and they're awarded a penalty shot which they scored on to tie the game.
Unbelievable turn of events for Wisconsin to be awarded a penalty shot on a coach's challenge (that could have gone either way) with 19 seconds left, and then burying it to tie 3-3.
Quote from: sah67High drama with 18 seconds left: Wisconsin on the power play challenges that an OSU player covered the puck with her hand in the crease, and they're awarded a penalty shot which they scored on to tie the game.
Wow.
Going to OT now, with Wisconsin getting a few seconds of power-play to start.
The refs actually gave Wisconsin a choice of a penalty shot or an extra minor penalty on OSU, and they made the easy choice.
I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
It seemed likeOSU might make their own challenge of the penalty shot for that reason, but they didn't.
Another cool moment was the Wisconsin coach asking his players who wanted the penalty shot rather than assigning it.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
i thought this at first too, but on replay it looked more like she pulled the puck backwards but kept her momentum going forward. an incredible sequence.
i also thought the penalty call was justified; the puck does squirt out but only after the badger jams her stick underneath the buckeye's prone body.
absolutely brutal unforced error by ohio state to commit a penalty on a truly awful line change with under two minutes left.
Quote from: sah67Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
It seemed likeOSU might make their own challenge of the penalty shot for that reason, but they didn't.
Yeah, I figured that was what they were talking about.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
i thought this at first too, but on replay it looked more like she pulled the puck backwards but kept her momentum going forward. an incredible sequence.
i also thought the penalty call was justified; the puck does squirt out but only after the badger jams her stick underneath the buckeye's prone body.
absolutely brutal unforced error by ohio state to commit a penalty on a truly awful line change with under two minutes left.
The too many "men" was a major f-up.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I thought the Wisconsin penalty shot taker actually moved backward slightly (and they're actually taking about that right now on the intermission show).
I thought this at first too, but on replay it looked more like she pulled the puck backwards but kept her momentum going forward. an incredible sequence.
I just saw the replay. You're right. She continued her forward motion. Amazing shot under serious pressure.
You just felt that was coming.
Simms, who scored the game-tying penalty shot goal, wins it in overtime for Wisconsin. Among the most emotionally brutal losses you'll ever see on the Ohio State side, who in many ways played the better game.
Wisconsin and OSU both beat OSU.
wisconsin came out looking for blood. ohio state got the first good rush but the ice tilted the other way and never straightened out. wisconsin almost score three times in the first two minutes of ot. that dam was obviously going to break unless ohio state was able to get numbers the other way on a bad deflection.
Random thing I remembered the other day: Way back when, Julie Sasner left Cornell to become the first Wisconsin coach when they started their varsity team.
Quote from: sah67Wisconsin and OSU both beat OSU.
Much like you could say the same for us and Q at LP.
Not to do too much thread drift, but Q complaining about the officials when they got a PP with less than 2 minutes remaining, well its just Q I guess.