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Title: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Iceberg on March 01, 2025, 06:36:47 PM
Good red, bad red, and ugly red
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 06:39:32 PM
There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend. Those with a rope around the neck, and the people who have the job of doing the cutting.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ACM on March 01, 2025, 06:44:44 PM
Schafer out tonight. Keopple in goal. (from WHCU pre-game)
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 06:45:51 PM
Did I hear Remington in net?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 06:46:06 PM
I guess I did.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ACM on March 01, 2025, 06:49:06 PM
Line chart (https://x.com/JaneMcNally_/status/1895984293446574180/photo/1).
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 06:59:27 PM
That is one empty Field House.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:05:06 PM
Did we score? NCAA says we scored?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: ACMLine chart (https://x.com/JaneMcNally_/status/1895984293446574180/photo/1).
Avs logo next to Kempf, mwah <3
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: stereaxDid we score? NCAA says we scored?
Kovich!!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ACMLine chart (https://x.com/JaneMcNally_/status/1895984293446574180/photo/1).
Avs logo next to Kempf, mwah <3
Along with 3 other alumni.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: stereaxDid we score? NCAA says we scored?
tough start; keopple gave up a post 14 seconds into the game (then covered up after it hit him in the back) and they got another great chance off the faceoff that he saved. About a minute later, though, we were skating circles around them in their zone and Kovich sniped one up top glove side from the opposite circle (iirc).

first minute of the pp was terrible but the second minute was a very pretty barrage that didn't pay off.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ACMLine chart (https://x.com/JaneMcNally_/status/1895984293446574180/photo/1).
Avs logo next to Kempf, mwah <3
Along with 3 other alumni.
yes!!!!! critically: Not A Ranger!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:14:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: stereaxDid we score? NCAA says we scored?
tough start; keopple gave up a post 14 seconds into the game (then covered up after it hit him in the back) and they got another great chance off the faceoff that he saved. About a minute later, though, we were skating circles around them in their zone and Kovich sniped one up top glove side from the opposite circle (iirc).

first minute of the pp was terrible but the second minute was a very pretty barrage that didn't pay off.
so standard big red hijinks? (thanks for the summary!!)
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: stereaxDid we score? NCAA says we scored?
tough start; keopple gave up a post 14 seconds into the game (then covered up after it hit him in the back) and they got another great chance off the faceoff that he saved. About a minute later, though, we were skating circles around them in their zone and Kovich sniped one up top glove side from the opposite circle (iirc).

first minute of the pp was terrible but the second minute was a very pretty barrage that didn't pay off.
so standard big red hijinks? (thanks for the summary!!)
no, there was a goal.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:17:17 PM
Cameraman a fan of experimental film.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 07:18:41 PM
Quote from: TrotskyCameraman a fan of experimental film.
the goal line camera has a giant smudge* on it

* "No, that's trauma!" - Dr. Nick
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: stereaxso standard big red hijinks? (thanks for the summary!!)
no, there was a goal.
LMAO real, sadly
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:21:59 PM
Gate beat Union, Dartmouth leading, so maybe we wouldn't have gotten the bye anyway.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:23:04 PM
I don't think that was on purpose.  But you are responsible for your stick.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:27:12 PM
Stanley makes a lot more happen than you would think.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: chimpfood on March 01, 2025, 07:29:17 PM
Cameraman must be drunk or something
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 07:30:07 PM
Quote from: TrotskyStanley makes a lot more happen than you would think.

Speaking of...
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:30:28 PM
Fun flurry there.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:31:01 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodCameraman must be drunk or something
It's Troy.  Can't blame him.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 07:31:10 PM
Cameraman sure loves to film the blue line while there's frantic action happening at the net.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:32:49 PM
If I only had a wider monitor.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 07:36:14 PM
I know Fridgen is a local legend when it comes to RPI, but on commentary he sounds like just woke up suddenly from a nap, no matter what question the other guy asks him.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: pjd8 on March 01, 2025, 07:36:14 PM
It's bad enough when the cameraman follows the puck instead of the center of the play, but this guy is following the puck when he doesn't know where the puck is.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ACM on March 01, 2025, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: pjd8It's bad enough when the cameraman follows the puck instead of the center of the play, but this guy is following the puck when he doesn't know where the puck is.
He's doing a great job ... of pointing the camera to where the puck was three seconds ago.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:55:51 PM
Like Keopple's confidence moving the puck so far.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 07:57:23 PM
Quote from: sah67I know Fridgen is a local legend when it comes to RPI, but on commentary he sounds like just woke up suddenly from a nap, no matter what question the other guy asks him.

I'm fine with Fridge, he's like sharing a game with a nice old guy who used to play.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:06:30 PM
Remington's Wild Ride
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:07:03 PM
DeSantis with the mystery goal.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:07:34 PM
DeSantis! Although don't ask how he he got it...camera was busy at the blue line again.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: CU2007 on March 01, 2025, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: sah67DeSantis! Although don't ask how he he got it...camera was busy at the blue line again.

Yea, really really bad tonight. Close to unwatchable at times
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:13:58 PM
Deus ex net knock off
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Give My Regards on March 01, 2025, 08:14:33 PM
I'm thinking the tripod or whatever that camera is mounted on is in need of some oil and is really hard to turn.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: sah67DeSantis! Although don't ask how he he got it...camera was busy at the blue line again.

Yea, really really bad tonight. Close to unwatchable at times
You have to infer what is happening on the right side of the screen.  It is as if the cameraman sees the action in the viewfinder and doesn't realize we can't.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Give My Regards on March 01, 2025, 08:16:01 PM
Love the replay -- "..and this is how the net was knocked off..." *SHOVE*
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:20:53 PM
Castagna still hurting I think.  Definitely not his usual game.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: TrotskyCastagna still hurting I think.  Definitely not his usual game.

Yup: I honestly forgot he even played last night, but he's been at least a bit more noticeable tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: CU2007 on March 01, 2025, 08:44:43 PM
Looks like we'll be playing Yale Saturday night at Lynah
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 08:48:01 PM
Bancroft NEVER takes that shot! Hope he'll start doing it more often. 3-0 good guys.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:49:07 PM
Bancroft, followed quickly by Major: 4-0 now.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 08:50:06 PM
Quote from: ugarteBancroft NEVER takes that shot! Hope he'll start doing it more often. 3-0 good guys.
Wow Major shoots from like the exact same spot on the ice (top of the slot) and scores. Bancroft top, glove side; Major low, stick side.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:51:24 PM
LOL.  Phantom clear.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: ugarteBancroft NEVER takes that shot!

This is a running joke, right?

Bancroft leading the team in shots by a huge margin (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/team/Cornell/18).
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: pjd8 on March 01, 2025, 08:55:27 PM
That's how to keep the pressure on. More of that, please.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:55:53 PM
The return of Ben Robertson, offensive wizard!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 08:55:57 PM
what a pretty play and goal by robertson. god it's refreshing to enjoy a game.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Iceberg on March 01, 2025, 08:56:20 PM
RPI crumbling like a cookie. Wow
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:56:41 PM
This poor RPI sieve's save percentage...6-0 now.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ugarteBancroft NEVER takes that shot!

This is a running joke, right?

Bancroft leading the team in shots by a huge margin (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/team/Cornell/18).
someone has to lead the team!

and while i was typing, i heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 08:57:22 PM
Mack the knife.  6-0.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:58:47 PM
Mack's goal sounded pretty: too bad he deked the camera too.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: ugartei heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.

Good luck with that!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: ugarteand while i was typing, i heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.
i am crying. the camera was at the blue line until the puck was basically in the net and all of the goal line cam replays basically started with the puck already behind the goalie. i remember when we were jealous of rpitv.

Quote from: sah67
Quote from: ugartei heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.

Good luck with that!
lollllllll
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:00:09 PM
Keopple with the first assist on Major's goal, which also had a second assist.  I don't think I have ever seen that before.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: CU2007 on March 01, 2025, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarteand while i was typing, i heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.
i am crying. the camera was at the blue line until the puck was basically in the net and all of the goal line cam replays basically started with the puck already behind the goalie. i remember when we were jealous of rpitv.

I was gonna say ... in the early streaming days, RPITV was the gold standard
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:01:08 PM
18-point night.  That hasn't happened much.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarteand while i was typing, i heard mack score and now i have to watch the replay.
i am crying. the camera was at the blue line until the puck was basically in the net and all of the goal line cam replays basically started with the puck already behind the goalie. i remember when we were jealous of rpitv.

I was gonna say ... in the early streaming days, RPITV was the gold standard
The quality is great; it's just this camera operator.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:02:22 PM
Oh hey there's the Flash Of Being Good we do once every four games or so. I'm missing out, currently on a bender about the Seth Jones-Spencer Knight swap, but I understand the feed is so bad there's no rewatch value? Also is Keopple good now?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:02:52 PM
In other news: Major took a huge hit and water is wet. I don't know how that poor kid isn't in a full body cast at this point.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:04:40 PM
RPI taking out their 0-6 frustrations with some big hits now: hopefully we can keep our composure and get out of here without any shenanigans (or injuries).
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: sah67In other news: Major took a huge hit and water is wet. I don't know how that poor kid isn't in a full body cast at this point.
LMAO poor dude. I assume he's made of rubber. Like Gumby.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:06:42 PM
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:07:50 PM
Shot attempts 70-29. 20-4 this period.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:08:12 PM
Now might be a good time for the refs to practice some "game management" and start handing out 10 minute misconducts for these minor scrums. Everyone suddenly wants to be a tough guy (yeah, you too, Hoyt.)
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: sah67RPI taking out their 0-6 frustrations with some big hits now: hopefully we can keep our composure and get out of here without any shenanigans (or injuries).
Major took a hack, then Mack took a body check, both dropped their sticks and left the ice hunched over while play continued.  I do't think either lay was dirty, just bad luck, twice, in the same minute.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:10:20 PM
Quote from: sah67Now might be a good time for the refs to practice some "game management" and start handing out 10 minute misconducts for these minor scrums. Everyone suddenly wants to be a tough guy (yeah, you too, Hoyt.)
Yes.  Routs are dangerous.  These are boys full of testosterone.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:10:49 PM
I think I just heard the commentators mention that Schafer is not at the game tonight after the puck-to-head incident last night. Hope it's not serious.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:11:19 PM
Cmon send them both.  Protect this for Remington.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:11:44 PM
LOL.  Oh. Yeah, maybe that was a crosscheck...  < sheepish look >
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Mike will start Shane.  Senior.  Loyalty.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:12:25 PM
Stanley still eager to flex on the RPI guys and pad his team-leading PIMs. He's in the box and now RPI is challenging for a major...because that will allow them to...
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:12:29 PM
LOL, RPI wants to cash 6 ppg in 1:22.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:14:19 PM
Oops: my bad. Bancroft is our leader in PIMs, but Hoyt might be catching up quickly depending on this review!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:15:01 PM
5 min major for crosschecking on Stanley but no game misconduct.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:15:48 PM
Watson stays in?  Were they really trying to fuck Stanley with a DQ?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:17:02 PM
Hairy moments for Koepple on the final RPI powerplay, but the shutout is preserved despite Stanley's best efforts! 6-0 final.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:17:04 PM
SHUT OUT!!!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: TrotskySHUT OUT!!!
LET'S GOOOO
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWatson stays in?  Were they really trying to fuck Stanley with a DQ?
Trying to fuck Cornell, anyway.

LOL at "Keopple with a big upset..." (he meant surprising shutout but still lol)
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Mike will start Shane.  Senior.  Loyalty.
True, but we're not playing a best of 3 vs Yale, are we?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 09:19:21 PM
Remington Keopple now tied with Jimmy Rayhill in points, and in one fewer game (but a lot more minutes).
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Mike will start Shane.  Senior.  Loyalty.
True, but we're not playing a best of 3 vs Yale, are we?

Correct: it's a single elimination game.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Mike will start Shane.  Senior.  Loyalty.
True, but we're not playing a best of 3 vs Yale, are we?

Correct: it's a single elimination game.
So if Keopple is seen as giving a better chance to win...
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Iceberg on March 01, 2025, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWatson stays in?  Were they really trying to fuck Stanley with a DQ?

Once I saw he put his stick in the RPI player's face, I knew it would be five minutes. He's consistently been in the middle of some scrums this year.

Also, Yale is the worst matchup IMO. There are points this year where they gave Cornell issues and Allain is a smart enough coach where he could get his team to steal a win.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxAlso is Keopple good now?

He's had to face a few flurries where he held up fine, but he hasn't really seen much action in the latter parts of this game as we piled on the goals.
Copy that! So do we start Shane in the postseason or Keopple...
Mike will start Shane.  Senior.  Loyalty.
True, but we're not playing a best of 3 vs Yale, are we?

Correct: it's a single elimination game.
So if Keopple is seen as giving a better chance to win...
Everything I know about Mike tells me Shane starts unless he is hurt.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: CU2007 on March 01, 2025, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: TrotskyWatson stays in?  Were they really trying to fuck Stanley with a DQ?

Once I saw he put his stick in the RPI player's face, I knew it would be five minutes. He's consistently been in the middle of some scrums this year.

Also, Yale is the worst matchup IMO. There are points this year where they gave Cornell issues and Allain is a smart enough coach where he could get his team to steal a win.

They've won 6 games all season and are RPI-wise one of the worst teams in the country. In one game, anything can happen. But there's just no way Cornell can lose this game. ..........right?
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: TrotskyWatson stays in?  Were they really trying to fuck Stanley with a DQ?

Once I saw he put his stick in the RPI player's face, I knew it would be five minutes. He's consistently been in the middle of some scrums this year.

Also, Yale is the worst matchup IMO. There are points this year where they gave Cornell issues and Allain is a smart enough coach where he could get his team to steal a win.

They've won 6 games all season and are RPI-wise one of the worst teams in the country. In one game, anything can happen. But there's just no way Cornell can lose this game. ..........right?
I'm gonna go out tomorrow and knock on every tree in Ithaca.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: sah67 on March 01, 2025, 09:48:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xwVUoqB.jpeg)
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 09:58:57 PM
gotta lend that hard hat to schaefer
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: ugartegotta lend that hard hat to schaefer
Little late.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: BearLover on March 01, 2025, 10:03:42 PM
I swear, I was gonna say before the game started: "this game is totally meaningless, so of course Cornell is going to win 6-0." But I didn't say it, because my posts were getting to be too negative even for me.

Well, I've learned a hard lesson about abstaining from posting. Never again!
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: stereax on March 01, 2025, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: sah67(https://i.imgur.com/xwVUoqB.jpeg)
buddy please do not eat the puck
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: chimpfood on March 01, 2025, 10:19:24 PM
I think it's gotta be keopple next week. Even though I don't think he's the better goalie he has definitely been more consistent this year and against a team as bad as Yale that's all we need. Shane could put up a 30 save shutout but he could just as easily let in 3 softies and we go out with a whimper. But it'll be interesting to see what Schaf does. Great win today, nice to end the weekend happy.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2025, 10:32:06 PM
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Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2025, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodI think it's gotta be keopple next week. Even though I don't think he's the better goalie he has definitely been more consistent this year and against a team as bad as Yale that's all we need. Shane could put up a 30 save shutout but he could just as easily let in 3 softies and we go out with a whimper. But it'll be interesting to see what Schaf does. Great win today, nice to end the weekend happy.
i thought about this but he's barely played. .940 in a SSS. the last two years in similarly limited action he was under .900 in net. i don't think a change is made unless Shane looks awful in practice.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: chimpfood on March 01, 2025, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: chimpfoodI think it's gotta be keopple next week. Even though I don't think he's the better goalie he has definitely been more consistent this year and against a team as bad as Yale that's all we need. Shane could put up a 30 save shutout but he could just as easily let in 3 softies and we go out with a whimper. But it'll be interesting to see what Schaf does. Great win today, nice to end the weekend happy.
i thought about this but he's barely played. .940 in a SSS. the last two years in similarly limited action he was under .900 in net. i don't think a change is made unless Shane looks awful in practice.
Exactly why I wish they gave him more run this year, would be an easier decision that way.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: BearLover on March 02, 2025, 12:08:42 AM
I really don't understand how the coaching staff handled the starting goalie situation this year. IMO it wasn't very logically consistent.
1. Clearly the coaching staff felt Shane was the best goalie on the roster. He continued getting starts despite struggling throughout the season. The coaches see the goalies in practice, and I assume Shane was just much better in practice.
2. But several times this year Shane was pulled, Keopple came in and generally had good results. (Whether he played well/looked good is a different story—I didn't watch enough to know.)
3. Based on Keopple playing well in relief of Shane,  the coaching staff rewarded Keopple with the start the following night, where again he had good results.

IMO this doesn't really add up. Shane struggled in the games, but kept getting starts because (presumably) he was much better in practice. But then Keopple played well in relief of Shane and was rewarded with a start. If watching them in practice weighed so heavily in the coaches' evaluations, why would the coaches suddenly turn to Keopple after he played well in a fraction of a game in relief of Shane? If seeing him in game action was important, then why not get him more game action to properly evaluate him? The second game against Sacred Heart, once Cornell was <1% to get an at-large bid, was a great opportunity to give Keopple a start, but for some reason they went with Shane again???

Now the coaches are in an impossible position. They've backed themselves into a corner by simultaneously (1) strongly preferring Shane in general and (2) occasionally opening the door for Keopple to perform well, but (3) not in a large enough sample to have any degree of confidence.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: ugarte on March 02, 2025, 12:25:08 AM
Quote from: BearLoverI really don't understand how the coaching staff handled the starting goalie situation this year. IMO it wasn't very logically consistent.
1. Clearly the coaching staff felt Shane was the best goalie on the roster. He continued getting starts despite struggling throughout the season. The coaches see the goalies in practice, and I assume Shane was just much better in practice.
2. But several times this year Shane was pulled, Keopple came in and generally had good results. (Whether he played well/looked good is a different story—I didn't watch enough to know.)
3. Based on Keopple playing well in relief of Shane,  the coaching staff rewarded Keopple with the start the following night, where again he had good results.

IMO this doesn't really add up. Shane struggled in the games, but kept getting starts because (presumably) he was much better in practice. But then Keopple played well in relief of Shane and was rewarded with a start. If watching them in practice weighed so heavily in the coaches' evaluations, why would the coaches suddenly turn to Keopple after he played well in a fraction of a game in relief of Shane? If seeing him in game action was important, then why not get him more game action to properly evaluate him? The second game against Sacred Heart, once Cornell was <1% to get an at-large bid, was a great opportunity to give Keopple a start, but for some reason they went with Shane again???

Now the coaches are in an impossible position. They've backed themselves into a corner by simultaneously (1) strongly preferring Shane in general and (2) occasionally opening the door for Keopple to perform well, but (3) not in a large enough sample to have any degree of confidence.
i wouldn't overthink the thought process going in to the last game of the season against RPI. For all we know they wanted to give Shane a game to clear his head before the do or die starts.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: BearLover on March 02, 2025, 12:36:22 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverI really don't understand how the coaching staff handled the starting goalie situation this year. IMO it wasn't very logically consistent.
1. Clearly the coaching staff felt Shane was the best goalie on the roster. He continued getting starts despite struggling throughout the season. The coaches see the goalies in practice, and I assume Shane was just much better in practice.
2. But several times this year Shane was pulled, Keopple came in and generally had good results. (Whether he played well/looked good is a different story—I didn't watch enough to know.)
3. Based on Keopple playing well in relief of Shane,  the coaching staff rewarded Keopple with the start the following night, where again he had good results.

IMO this doesn't really add up. Shane struggled in the games, but kept getting starts because (presumably) he was much better in practice. But then Keopple played well in relief of Shane and was rewarded with a start. If watching them in practice weighed so heavily in the coaches' evaluations, why would the coaches suddenly turn to Keopple after he played well in a fraction of a game in relief of Shane? If seeing him in game action was important, then why not get him more game action to properly evaluate him? The second game against Sacred Heart, once Cornell was <1% to get an at-large bid, was a great opportunity to give Keopple a start, but for some reason they went with Shane again???

Now the coaches are in an impossible position. They've backed themselves into a corner by simultaneously (1) strongly preferring Shane in general and (2) occasionally opening the door for Keopple to perform well, but (3) not in a large enough sample to have any degree of confidence.
i wouldn't overthink the thought process going in to the last game of the season against RPI. For all we know they wanted to give Shane a game to clear his head before the do or die starts.
Sure, could be true. But seems like malpractice to just ride the guy with the .890 save percentage the whole season, never deviating even when the other guy has a .958 over parts of five games... At least give Katz a shot if you don't trust Keopple.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: chimpfood on March 02, 2025, 12:58:37 AM
There are 23 qualified goalies with a save percentage under .895. Only 1 has gotten more playing time than Shane, Jared whale of UNH, who was hospitalized last night so Shane may pass him. Not many other goalies get this kind long of a leash while having a season as bad as this. Thanks to Shane's performance in previous years though, he has gotten it.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2025, 01:10:54 AM
Quote from: BearLoverNow the coaches are in an impossible position.

No.  The coaches have no problem at all.  They will do what they think is best because they are experts and this is their job.

We all have to stop looking at this through the lens of talk radio, where the (lucrative) act is the fans and the pundits are engaging in Serious Analysis.  We aren't.  We're idiot looky-loos.  

The coaches see these guys every day and assess them in controlled conditions.  They have real knowledge, not delusions fed by message boards to generate clicks.

The critical mode, applied to sports, by people pressing their nose against the window, is why fans have the reputation they do.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2025, 01:15:07 AM
Quote from: ugarteFor all we know they wanted to give Shane a game to clear his head before the do or die starts.

My assumptions, which are just as dumb and uninformed as everyone else's here:

1. What you said.

2. Give Keoppel a full game against a non-threatening opponent to build confidence for next year, and as a reward for patiently waiting three years only to go into a full-on job battle as a Senior.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: BearLover on March 02, 2025, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverNow the coaches are in an impossible position.

No.  The coaches have no problem at all.  They will do what they think is best because they are experts and this is their job.

We all have to stop looking at this through the lens of talk radio, where the (lucrative) act is the fans and the pundits are engaging in Serious Analysis.  We aren't.  We're idiot looky-loos.  

The coaches see these guys every day and assess them in controlled conditions.  They have real knowledge, not delusions fed by message boards to generate clicks.

The critical mode, applied to sports, by people pressing their nose against the window, is why fans have the reputation they do.
Coaches make mistakes all the time. Also, practices aren't "controlled conditions." Game experience cannot be replicated. Coaches have to make best guesses under high levels of uncertainty, including in this case. Maybe this is not a particularly close call and Shane is clearly better. Or maybe it's a very close call and the coaching staff would be better off if it had actually seen the backups in game action.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Dafatone on March 02, 2025, 01:22:49 AM
My untrained eye says Keopple doesn't come far enough out of the net to challenge shots.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2025, 01:27:20 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverNow the coaches are in an impossible position.

No.  The coaches have no problem at all.  They will do what they think is best because they are experts and this is their job.

We all have to stop looking at this through the lens of talk radio, where the (lucrative) act is the fans and the pundits are engaging in Serious Analysis.  We aren't.  We're idiot looky-loos.  

The coaches see these guys every day and assess them in controlled conditions.  They have real knowledge, not delusions fed by message boards to generate clicks.

The critical mode, applied to sports, by people pressing their nose against the window, is why fans have the reputation they do.
Coaches make mistakes all the time. Also, practices aren't "controlled conditions." Game experience cannot be replicated. Coaches have to make best guesses under high levels of uncertainty, including in this case. Maybe this is not a particularly close call and Shane is clearly better. Or maybe it's a very close call and the coaching staff would be better off if it had actually seen the backups in game action.

Nothing in what I said implies coaches are omniscient.  The stinger is the comparative: we can grouse (or grovel; it's the same effect) but in the end the coaches are all we have in terms of judgment.  There just isn't another standard.  If we played 100 games it would be the stats, but in college hockey it's always SSS.  And hopefully we have all finally retired the "eye test."

I can see people may enjoy the game of playing Monday Morning Metternich, in which case, you do you.  I think it's silly to fret about this.  Root for them and then have a drink or 5 and forget until next week (or year, as the case may soon be).
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Scersk '97 on March 02, 2025, 03:43:29 AM
Quote from: DafatoneMy untrained eye says Keopple doesn't come far enough out of the net to challenge shots.

My untrained eye sees the same thing, but he's also bigger goalie, so he doesn't need to come out of the net as much. Sometimes he's out; otherwise, he plays a bit deeper, and I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: JasonN95 on March 02, 2025, 09:02:56 AM
Coach in the past has said the team doesn't have the luxury to not skate the best team it can assemble each game because there are no throwaway games. Every game matters for PWR, then when an at large bid was out of reach, the team is fighting for the first round bye. Last night for the first game neither of those were on the table so resting Shane, who the coaches must think gives them the best shot at winning, was cost free.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: BearLover on March 02, 2025, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: JasonN95Coach in the past has said the team doesn't have the luxury to not skate the best team it can assemble each game because there are no throwaway games. Every game matters for PWR, then when an at large bid was out of reach, the team is fighting for the first round bye. Last night for the first game neither of those were on the table so resting Shane, who the coaches must think gives them the best shot at winning, was cost free.
While not deterministically eliminated, Cornell went into the second game against Sacred Heart with a remote chance of getting an at-large bid. As the last non-conference game on the schedule, this would have been the perfect opportunity to get Shane some rest/the backups some playing time. But Cornell went with Shane, who ended up getting pulled during the game.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 02, 2025, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: BearLoverI swear, I was gonna say before the game started: "this game is totally meaningless, so of course Cornell is going to win 6-0." But I didn't say it, because my posts were getting to be too negative even for me.

Well, I've learned a hard lesson about abstaining from posting. Never again!

But that post wouldn't have been too negative for you.

It's almost positive.
Title: Re: Cornell at RPI 3/1
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 02, 2025, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: Give My RegardsI'm thinking the tripod or whatever that camera is mounted on is in need of some oil and is really hard to turn.

Nay, the camera viewfinder was on a two second delay.