There's some light snow that's supposed to continue for the next few hours. Lot of tickets look to be sold but you figure the weather will turn some people away
Enjoy the New Haven pizza: Pepe's or Sally's?
I'm sure you will cheer hard for our boys. Wish I could be there!
Let's Go Red!!
Quote from: SnowballEnjoy the New Haven pizza: Pepe's or Sally's?
There was one on I want to say Yates Ave? Or maybe the place was called Yates?
Problem: in around 1990.
Edit: York, not Yates.
Quote from: SnowballEnjoy the New Haven pizza: Pepe's or Sally's?
I'm sure you will cheer hard for our boys. Wish I could be there!
Let's Go Red!!
Neither. I went to Modern Apizza. I went to Pepe's the last time I was here and I've never been to Sally's
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SnowballEnjoy the New Haven pizza: Pepe's or Sally's?
There was one on I want to say Yates Ave? Or maybe the place was called Yates?
Problem: in around 1990.
Outside the Pepe/Sally/Modern triumvirate, the enjoyable places for me are BAR, Yorkside, and that hole-in-the-wall place ... I think it was on Wall right near campus. It might have closed. Just the quintessential college hang-out.
For my money, BAR has/had the best pizza-quality + drinks + atmosphere combo.
When I moved there, I found that there's an established New Haven style pizza place in DC (Pete's Apizza) that's good, and now there are Pepe's franchises in Alexandria and Bethesda.
Yippee Walsh with his 3rd this weekend!
Walsh stays hot. That whole sequence was actually generated after Bancroft inadvertently caused the Yale defender to lose his stick during a blown offensive opportunity before so it was 5 on 4 for a while
Hell yeah hot start
Quote from: stereaxHell yeah hot start
Oh my god this score bug is AWFUL.
"this is kind of a sore spot for Cornell" as we go on the PP... another stoppable force v movable object?
Quote from: stereax"this is kind of a sore spot for Cornell" as we go on the PP... another stoppable force v movable object?
STOPPABLE FORCE WINS. BANCROFT LET'S GOOOO
ppg. Huh. It's possible.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: stereaxHell yeah hot start
Oh my god this score bug is AWFUL.
I kind of appreciate its hideousness.
I'm not sure why the fonts are a somewhat light grey, though.
Quote from: Trotskyppg. Huh. It's possible.
Announcers said Yale's PK is like, the worst in the conference...
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: stereax"this is kind of a sore spot for Cornell" as we go on the PP... another stoppable force v movable object?
STOPPABLE FORCE WINS. BANCROFT LET'S GOOOO
Powerplay jinx broken !
6 Point weekend
That must be a huge weight off the back of Bancroft. Nice finish on the rebound, too, because there wasn't much space to score. This goalie is giving up quite a few rebounds
Meanwhile, Harvard is utterly useless, losing to Clarkson 6-0. Colgate and Dartmouth each leading early.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxQuote from: stereax"this is kind of a sore spot for Cornell" as we go on the PP... another stoppable force v movable object?
STOPPABLE FORCE WINS. BANCROFT LET'S GOOOO
Powerplay jinx broken !
6 Point weekend
Let's not count those chickens too early, but I'm feeling real good about today.
Quote from: TrotskyMeanwhile, Harvard is utterly useless, losing to Clarkson 6-0. Colgate and Dartmouth each leading early.
When was the last time Harvard did anything for us, though?
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: Trotskyppg. Huh. It's possible.
Announcers said Yale's PK is like, the worst in the conference...
Nation.
Quote from: IcebergNice finish on the rebound, too, because there wasn't much space to score.
That was nice. He had about 20 seconds of arc to shoot at.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: stereaxQuote from: Trotskyppg. Huh. It's possible.
Announcers said Yale's PK is like, the worst in the conference...
Nation.
Even better.
Did they just say we have. the largest senior and smallest rookie class in the country. Oh boy.
Quote from: stereaxDid they just say we have. the largest senior and smallest rookie class in the country. Oh boy.
http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2025/2025_Roster_by_Class.html
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereaxDid they just say we have. the largest senior and smallest rookie class in the country. Oh boy.
http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2025/2025_Roster_by_Class.html
Coupl'a guys I barely see in the seniors. But woof. Only one freshman getting regular minutes this year.
C'mon, let's inflate our pp numbers against Yale
Wolfie only not getting minutes because of injuries. Murray hurt too. I expect them both to be regular starters in 26+.
Quote from: TrotskyWolfie only not getting minutes because of injuries. Murray hurt too. I expect them both to be regular starters in 26+.
I thought Wolfie was in because everyone else was injured, not because Wolfie was injured. That helps.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: TrotskyWolfie only not getting minutes because of injuries. Murray hurt too. I expect them both to be regular starters in 26+.
I thought Wolfie was in because everyone else was injured, not because Wolfie was injured. That helps.
Well, he got minutes early in the year but guys were hurt from the start, so...
Scored a nice goal against UND
So were the problems all Castagna's fault? (Hides under table)
This does not spark joy.
Quote from: stereaxThis does not spark joy.
This REALLY does not spark joy...
my bad everyone. i missed the first period and turned it on right before the second tipped off.
Some horrible defense to start the period
I MISS 2 MINUTES WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT???!!!
This is why you don't jingle your keys on ELF talking about a 6 point weekend in the first period
My keys are away
Quote from: SnowballMy keys are away
Good. Bancer again!
Quote from: TrotskyI MISS 2 MINUTES WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT???!!!
this is fine :)
There is a guy on Yale named "Julian Fries (https://nationaltoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/National-Julienne-Fries-Day-1200x834.jpg)."
6 point weekend
SAFETY SIEVE. KRAFT!
Quote from: Snowball6 point weekend
pleasedon'tjinxusagain
Quote from: Snowball6 point weekend
The Woofing Gods returneth eternal hope
Welp that was as stupid as the other DeSantis.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: Snowball6 point weekend
pleasedon'tjinxusagain
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No review? Huh.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxQuote from: Snowball6 point weekend
pleasedon'tjinxusagain
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thank you :')
WHY IS THE P.A. GUY SHOUTING???!!!
Bancroft and Kraft scored while I was tuned in so whatever happens it isn't my fault anymore.
Nice to chase goalies back-to-back.
Band sounds great! I love this barn.
WALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Yale's normal starting goaltender must be hurt or something because he's not even on the bench. That said, Yale is a bad team and this game is going the way that we expected it would've gone at Lynah
Quote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Yale gonna Yale.
Quote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
At times!
Quote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Walsh & Kraft are finding something a la Jacob McDonald.
Quote from: IcebergYale's normal starting goaltender must be hurt or something because he's not even on the bench. That said, Yale is a bad team and this game is going the way that we expected it would've gone at Lynah
We outshot them 3:1 at Lynah and were unlucky.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Yale gonna Yale.
Pretty sure we found Yael
Quote from: IcebergYale's normal starting goaltender must be hurt or something because he's not even on the bench. That said, Yale is a bad team and this game is going the way that we expected it would've gone at Lynah
They're breaking in the freshman at this point.
"Huey Hooker" is a stripper or a Civil War general.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Yale gonna Yale.
Pretty sure we found Yael
}PROVICED: whereabouts unknown.
And that is how you do a callback.
Quote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
On fire.
And the Announcer has a guy crush on him.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Walsh & Kraft are finding something a la Jacob McDonald.
That's why I've been crying about the line changes of late! Those 2 play well together, why would you split them up?
Brown has come back to go up on Colgate.
Huh, local VA ads on my ESPN+. Targeted marketing. Interesting.
#freeluigi
That asmr coffee commercial can go die in a fire now.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
On fire.
And the Announcer has a guy crush on him.
Who doesn't, tbh
Quote from: fastforwardQuote from: RichHQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Walsh & Kraft are finding something a la Jacob McDonald.
That's why I've been crying about the line changes of late! Those 2 play well together, why would you split them up?
Agree. And I believe they played together in the USHL.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: fastforwardQuote from: RichHQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
Walsh & Kraft are finding something a la Jacob McDonald.
That's why I've been crying about the line changes of late! Those 2 play well together, why would you split them up?
Agree. And I believe they played together in the USHL.
I really like them both but feel Kraft is underrated
He does the dirty work in the corners and takes a lickin and keeps on rockin'
ncaa review rules are strange. Dart took a major but they reviewed to see if he should be tossed and decided no penalty at all.
But had the called it a minor and reviewed for a major they would do nothing if it was not a penalty.
Quote from: TrotskyWHY IS THE P.A. GUY SHOUTING???!!!
I think it's a New England thing. The BU guy always sounded like that.
LOUD let's go red chants. Lynah South-East?
Be cool, Honey Bunny. Let's just get outta here with nothing lingering.
Quote from: stereaxLOUD let's go red chants. Lynah South-East?
No, just standard operating procedure. We travel as well as anyone in the East and take over most barns.
From a (an?) USCHO article about an NCAA regional in the early 2000s:
" The regionalization of this year's tournament probably contributed to the record, as four of the five teams were from New England and the other, Cornell, would probably have a large cadre of supporters if the game was held in Vladivostok.
— Mike Volonnino"
Walsh faceoffs this weekend: 33-10.
SLU pushed Dartmouth to ot, Brown up 6-3 on Gate.
Quote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
On fire.
And the Announcer has a guy crush on him.
This is why having a color guy is good. This poor man sounds lonely and downtrodden in the 3rd. It would be good if he had someone to talk to.
Gate loses to complete a 1-point weekend.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: stereaxLOUD let's go red chants. Lynah South-East?
No, just standard operating procedure. We travel as well as anyone in the East and take over most barns.
From a (an?) USCHO article about an NCAA regional in the early 2000s:
" The regionalization of this year's tournament probably contributed to the record, as four of the five teams were from New England and the other, Cornell, would probably have a large cadre of supporters if the game was held in Vladivostok.
— Mike Volonnino"
HAHAHA cornell.ru fans turning up in droves. I've never seen more than a smattering of fans for any other school at Lynah, though, and would NEVER hear them chanting, much less loud enough to be heard on broadcast...
The whole side of the rink behind Schafer is basically Cornell fans. Also, after Harvard and Princeton, Yale is one of the most attended road games. If it weren't for the snow, there would be some more people but it's still very populated here considering the weather.
Quote from: TrotskyGate loses to complete a 1-point weekend.
Brown has lost once in the last month. That one was last night.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
On fire.
And the Announcer has a guy crush on him.
This is why having a color guy is good. This poor man sounds lonely and downtrodden in the 3rd. It would be good if he had someone to talk to.
The guy last night had the voice in his head to talk to.
When did Keith Allain start looking like an Actor's Studio emeritus professor?
Warm up the bus chants in THEIR rink...
Quote from: IcebergThe whole side of the rink behind Schafer is basically Cornell fans. Also, after Harvard and Princeton, Yale is one of the most attended road games. If it weren't for the snow, there would be some more people but it's still very populated here considering the weather.
It doesn't hurt being the closest rink to a MetroNorth stop (MSG excluded) to get the NYC alumni base to a game.
SIX POINT WEEKEND
Bah. Yale goal with 3.3 seconds left.
Quote from: TrotskyWhen did Keith Allain start looking like an Actor's Studio emeritus professor?
Was he wearing a suit coat over a tracksuit? Strange choice
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: SnowballQuote from: stereaxWALSH AGAIN! Holy crap. Are we... good?
On fire.
And the Announcer has a guy crush on him.
This is why having a color guy is good. This poor man sounds lonely and downtrodden in the 3rd. It would be good if he had someone to talk to.
The guy last night had the voice in his head to talk to.
And his hemorrhoid.
Shane goes 4-0 at Ingalls
SLU beats Dartmouth in overtime. Not a bad weekend at all!
6 points on the road. Gotta get Clarkson now.
Fwiw we went from 33 to 21 in pwr this weekend.
shoot. now you can see a path to 2nd place. Need that same effort 2 more weekends
20th and the 2 ahead of us are under ,500
Quote from: ice6 points on the road. Gotta get Clarkson now.
Both teams are most likely ata season-high confidence level. Should be good.
Quote from: arugulaFwiw we went from 33 to 21 in pwr this weekend.
A few more good outings and we're very much back in this.
Quote from: arugulaFwiw we went from 33 to 21 in pwr this weekend.
(https://i.imgflip.com/7pn68f.jpg)
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: arugulaFwiw we went from 33 to 21 in pwr this weekend.
A few more good outings and we're very much back in this.
Now 19
Quote from: stereaxSIX POINT WEEKEND
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: stereaxQuote from: arugulaFwiw we went from 33 to 21 in pwr this weekend.
A few more good outings and we're very much back in this.
Now 19
USCHO currently has us tied for 18.
we want OSU to beat Wisc now as well
We're still not gonna get an at large bid. The cutoff for that is around .55 and we're still below .52. But it does lower my blood pressure a little bit to see us in the teens
Quote from: chimpfoodWe're still not gonna get an at large bid. The cutoff for that is around .55 and we're still below .52. But it does lower my blood pressure a little bit to see us in the teens
It's helped us that UMass has been winning. Just about our best win this year.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: chimpfoodWe're still not gonna get an at large bid. The cutoff for that is around .55 and we're still below .52. But it does lower my blood pressure a little bit to see us in the teens
It's helped us that UMass has been winning. Just about our best win this year.
We're tied with UNH which has a losing record reflecting the strength of Hockey East. However, iinm, you cannot go to the tourney with a losing record. Therefore we are ahead of them.
Maybe, but I look at this way, you go back to 2018
Only 1 team was less than 6 games over .500 and got in on PWR
right now 7 teams ahead of us are at or below that.
UNH can't go unless they get over .500 and 6 teams under .55 are ahead of us anyway.
Let's win the next 6 and then see where we are.
last 5 games we have scored 6-5-4-3-1. That means a 2 or 7 next week for the straight. Though 7-8 would be nice
Does UND beating Denver help or hurt. They're at 17 but otoh we beat them 2x
Quote from: chimpfoodWe're still not gonna get an at large bid. The cutoff for that is around .55 and we're still below .52. But it does lower my blood pressure a little bit to see us in the teens
Just win, baby
11-goal weekend. Let's get a couple more of those.
Ohio state beating Wisconsin and UND beating Denver dropped us to 20.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: arugulaQuote from: chimpfoodWe're still not gonna get an at large bid. The cutoff for that is around .55 and we're still below .52. But it does lower my blood pressure a little bit to see us in the teens
It's helped us that UMass has been winning. Just about our best win this year.
We're tied with UNH which has a losing record reflecting the strength of Hockey East. However, iinm, you cannot go to the tourney with a losing record. Therefore we are ahead of them.
Correct. You've got to be a .500 team to get a bid. But now UNH is at 18 and Cornell at 20.
The good news/bad news for UNH is that they have the second hardest remaining regular season schedule in the nation (behind Michigan), with their opponents having a combined .700 record. Bad news in that they have a far bigger challenge ahead of them than Cornell. But good news in that if they win four, they not only get a .500 record, but they bump up to 16 in Pairwise. (If they pulled a phenomenal miracle and beat BC, they could potentially jump to 11). And any team that they face in the playoffs will help their RPI, as seven Hockey East teams are in the top 13. That conference just has unbelievable depth.
This UNH team is so much better than last year, and they are far better than Cornell right now. They just went toe to toe with Maine in Alfond and it took Maine, the number 4 team in the country 125 minutes to really put them away. UNH doesn't have a goalie that will win them games (he's competent, but not great), but everything else is there. If they break through their drought like Cornell has, they could be a great dark horse team.
Even so, they have a slim chance of getting an at large bid. If Cornell wins the next four, that only puts the Big Red at 18. ECAC teams just don't have a chance of clawing their way back up this late in the season. It's all about the auto-bid.
Just to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid. It's fairly clear even before running "The Matrix" - which FWIW, puts the chances at 0.1%
You can see clearly that between 20 and 30 in the Pairwise, the teams are separated by about 100 RPI basis points. There's constant movement in there up and down. But the gap from 20 to 13 is almost 300 basis points. It's very difficult to crack the bubble. In fact, I'd say Penn State at 16 basically has no shot either. It's just not going to happen. ... Everyone here would be better off not worrying about it, and just enjoy each game for what it is, and shoot for that bye. Although my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
Quote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid. It's fairly clear even before running "The Matrix" - which FWIW, puts the chances at 0.1%
You can see clearly that between 20 and 30 in the Pairwise, the teams are separated by about 100 RPI basis points. There's constant movement in there up and down. But the gap from 20 to 13 is almost 300 basis points. It's very difficult to crack the bubble. In fact, I'd say Penn State at 16 basically has no shot either. It's just not going to happen. ... Everyone here would be better off not worrying about it, and just enjoy each game for what it is, and shoot for that bye. Although my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
Burning the midnight oil just to crush our dreams? lol but I agree with you, believing that we can get an at large will do us more harm than good now. Regarding the ECAC tournament, the first round is just one game now right? So it is a pretty big deal still to get a bye because you don't want to be in a spot where one bad game or good day from a goalie ends your season.
Quote from: adamwAlthough my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
If you're talking about hosting the first round of the playoffs, that's one game.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: SnowballEnjoy the New Haven pizza: Pepe's or Sally's?
There was one on I want to say Yates Ave? Or maybe the place was called Yates?
Problem: in around 1990.
Outside the Pepe/Sally/Modern triumvirate, the enjoyable places for me are BAR, Yorkside, and that hole-in-the-wall place ... I think it was on Wall right near campus. It might have closed. Just the quintessential college hang-out.
For my money, BAR has/had the best pizza-quality + drinks + atmosphere combo.
When I moved there, I found that there's an established New Haven style pizza place in DC (Pete's Apizza) that's good, and now there are Pepe's franchises in Alexandria and Bethesda.
Yorkside is our constant choice, as locals. Feels like home, which is probably because it's run by relations (close-ish cousins, I think) of the folks who run Souvlaki House.
Quote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid.
Good. Now I can concentrate again.
Running the limited PWR its hard to find a path to a bid
But its not hard to find a path that gets us ahead of PSU/Minn St/Quin/Ariz st
and you can find paths for UNH/Mass to be ahead of us but under .500 as well
Mich is locked in
have to find a way to 13 that includes losing to Quin I suspect, if one exists.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid.
Good. Now I can concentrate again.
Aww, no more pictures?
Quote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid. It's fairly clear even before running "The Matrix" - which FWIW, puts the chances at 0.1%
You can see clearly that between 20 and 30 in the Pairwise, the teams are separated by about 100 RPI basis points. There's constant movement in there up and down. But the gap from 20 to 13 is almost 300 basis points. It's very difficult to crack the bubble. In fact, I'd say Penn State at 16 basically has no shot either. It's just not going to happen. ... Everyone here would be better off not worrying about it, and just enjoy each game for what it is, and shoot for that bye. Although my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
0.1%? So you're saying there's a chance.
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid.
Good. Now I can concentrate again.
Aww, no more pictures?
Never said that.
Quote from: chimpfoodQuote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid. It's fairly clear even before running "The Matrix" - which FWIW, puts the chances at 0.1%
You can see clearly that between 20 and 30 in the Pairwise, the teams are separated by about 100 RPI basis points. There's constant movement in there up and down. But the gap from 20 to 13 is almost 300 basis points. It's very difficult to crack the bubble. In fact, I'd say Penn State at 16 basically has no shot either. It's just not going to happen. ... Everyone here would be better off not worrying about it, and just enjoy each game for what it is, and shoot for that bye. Although my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
Burning the midnight oil just to crush our dreams? lol but I agree with you, believing that we can get an at large will do us more harm than good now. Regarding the ECAC tournament, the first round is just one game now right? So it is a pretty big deal still to get a bye because you don't want to be in a spot where one bad game or good day from a goalie ends your season.
True - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: chimpfoodQuote from: adamwJust to help Trotsky from believing - Cornell has no shot at an at-large bid. It's fairly clear even before running "The Matrix" - which FWIW, puts the chances at 0.1%
You can see clearly that between 20 and 30 in the Pairwise, the teams are separated by about 100 RPI basis points. There's constant movement in there up and down. But the gap from 20 to 13 is almost 300 basis points. It's very difficult to crack the bubble. In fact, I'd say Penn State at 16 basically has no shot either. It's just not going to happen. ... Everyone here would be better off not worrying about it, and just enjoy each game for what it is, and shoot for that bye. Although my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be terrible from a team building standpoint to play two gimme home games before getting to the meatier quarterfinals. So if they're playing well, but fall short of 4th, it's not so bad.
Burning the midnight oil just to crush our dreams? lol but I agree with you, believing that we can get an at large will do us more harm than good now. Regarding the ECAC tournament, the first round is just one game now right? So it is a pretty big deal still to get a bye because you don't want to be in a spot where one bad game or good day from a goalie ends your season.
True - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
I don't feel so bad wishing that the first round wasn't one game. One of my favorite series was Colgate visiting RPI - I think in the Fridgen era. Our seats were next to a Colgate alum and his wife. He clapped politely and I don't think raised his voice once during the games. You can hear him clapping after the game winning series ending goal on one of my Youtube videos. I met him years later at a party and was able to ID him due to his profession and demeanor. I didn't remember his face. I think I proved how insane some of us are in our appreciation of college hockey.
There was also the 2002 series at Lynah vs. Yale. We would have missed that year - the only Schafer era miss - except that my son who was entering Yale in the fall suggested we visit. It was his college visits that had prevented our annual pilgrimmage to Lynah. I then learned that "Yale is in New Haven".
Quote from: adamwTrue - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
The advantage to a one-game playoff to make the quarterfinal round of 8 is:
* Less wear and tear on the four 5-12 playoff winners who advance
* The higher-ranked team usually wins
* There are upsets in the best-of-three quarterfinals as well
Last year there was a big upset run: #7 RS St. Lawrence: winning the first-round over #10 Yale, beating #3 St. Lawrence 3-2OT and 3-2 at Colgate, then in Lake Placid SLU goalie Ben Kraws (and his, ah, really vocal dad in the stands) shutting out #1 Quinnipiac in the semis, before falling to #2 Cornell 3-1 for the ECAC tournament title, Cornell's first in
14 years.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: adamwTrue - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
The advantage to a one-game playoff to make the quarterfinal round of 8 is:
* Less wear and tear on the four 5-12 playoff winners who advance
* The higher-ranked team usually wins
* There are upsets in the best-of-three quarterfinals as well
Last year there was a big upset run: #7 RS St. Lawrence: winning the first-round over #10 Yale, beating #3 St. Lawrence 3-2OT and 3-2 at Colgate, then in Lake Placid SLU goalie Ben Kraws (and his, ah, really vocal dad in the stands) shutting out #1 Quinnipiac in the semis, before falling to #2 Cornell 3-1 for the ECAC tournament title, Cornell's first in 14 years.
If the NCAA tournament games are single elimination, and the ECAC semifinals and final are, too, why shouldn't the ECAC first round and quarterfinals be the same? Is determining the winners, for some unknown reason, more important? Are there two-out-of-three series in basketball, or lacrosse, or football tournaments?
College baseball world series is a combination of double-elimination brackets (2 losses in your bracket grouping and you're out) and best 2-of-3 including in the championship round. I can see that making sense for baseball where a hot pitcher could knock a better that has more good but not single great pitcher. Plus they play a lot of games. Tennessee won the College World Series in game 73 of the 2024 season. Right now they've played 3 games in 2025 while a couple D1 lax teams have played 3 also but they stop playing in the high teens.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: billhowardQuote from: adamwTrue - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
The advantage to a one-game playoff to make the quarterfinal round of 8 is:
* Less wear and tear on the four 5-12 playoff winners who advance
* The higher-ranked team usually wins
* There are upsets in the best-of-three quarterfinals as well
Last year there was a big upset run: #7 RS St. Lawrence: winning the first-round over #10 Yale, beating #3 St. Lawrence 3-2OT and 3-2 at Colgate, then in Lake Placid SLU goalie Ben Kraws (and his, ah, really vocal dad in the stands) shutting out #1 Quinnipiac in the semis, before falling to #2 Cornell 3-1 for the ECAC tournament title, Cornell's first in 14 years.
If the NCAA tournament games are single elimination, and the ECAC semifinals and final are, too, why shouldn't the ECAC first round and quarterfinals be the same? Is determining the winners, for some unknown reason, more important? Are there two-out-of-three series in basketball, or lacrosse, or football tournaments?
I think there were at least three possible reasons for the best-of-three format:
1. You want the advantage to go to the upper seed. While upsets can happen, fewer will happen in the multi-game format. The strategic advantage for the ECAC is that, if they're only going to send one team to the NCAA tourney, they really don't want their best teams getting knocked out of a chance for the autobid due to one fluke game.
Only HE doesn't do a multigame format, and they don't need to. Even if last-place UNH got the autobid, they would have a good showing in the national tournament. And if they didn't, the other
six teams that would get at large bids from the conference would hold up HE's honor.
2. It's a way to increase the number of games in a season while still holding to the cap the ECAC puts on regular season games.
3. You can end your regular season a week earlier than HE and keep the teams playing, particularly in a playoff mindset, instead of sitting idle. I do think this helps Cornell. It's an opportunity to do some fine tuning of playoff strategy under relatively low stakes conditions.
Quote from: pjd8Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: billhowardQuote from: adamwTrue - sorry - I keep forgetting about the 1-game dumbness.
The advantage to a one-game playoff to make the quarterfinal round of 8 is:
* Less wear and tear on the four 5-12 playoff winners who advance
* The higher-ranked team usually wins
* There are upsets in the best-of-three quarterfinals as well
Last year there was a big upset run: #7 RS St. Lawrence: winning the first-round over #10 Yale, beating #3 St. Lawrence 3-2OT and 3-2 at Colgate, then in Lake Placid SLU goalie Ben Kraws (and his, ah, really vocal dad in the stands) shutting out #1 Quinnipiac in the semis, before falling to #2 Cornell 3-1 for the ECAC tournament title, Cornell's first in 14 years.
If the NCAA tournament games are single elimination, and the ECAC semifinals and final are, too, why shouldn't the ECAC first round and quarterfinals be the same? Is determining the winners, for some unknown reason, more important? Are there two-out-of-three series in basketball, or lacrosse, or football tournaments?
I think there were at least three possible reasons for the best-of-three format:
1. You want the advantage to go to the upper seed. While upsets can happen, fewer will happen in the multi-game format. The strategic advantage for the ECAC is that, if they're only going to send one team to the NCAA tourney, they really don't want their best teams getting knocked out of a chance for the autobid due to one fluke game.
Only HE doesn't do a multigame format, and they don't need to. Even if last-place UNH got the autobid, they would have a good showing in the national tournament. And if they didn't, the other six teams that would get at large bids from the conference would hold up HE's honor.
2. It's a way to increase the number of games in a season while still holding to the cap the ECAC puts on regular season games.
3. You can end your regular season a week earlier than HE and keep the teams playing, particularly in a playoff mindset, instead of sitting idle. I do think this helps Cornell. It's an opportunity to do some fine tuning of playoff strategy under relatively low stakes conditions.
Hockey East only recently made that change. The change for HEA and ECAC was based more on economics than anything else. I think the philosophy behind best-of-3 was originally because it's much easier, so to speak, in hockey for a lower seed to steal a win because of goaltending, and coaches didn't want that. The issue for both of the first two rounds is in trying to get fewer flukes. At least if a team will pull an upset, make it harder. No different than the reason the NHL went to all best-of-7s. Not that it's a bulletproof "solution" by any means.
Single game in the NCAA Tournament was not always the case either. They changed things in order to mimic college basketball as much as possible. The difference is that in conference tournaments, you can get upsets by teams that went 6-16 or something. At least in the NCAAs, everyone is over .500 to start with.