Union started off having a nice year but have cooled off. They have a freshman, Ben muthersbaugh, who came out of nowhere and is one of their top goalscorers. Their goaltending is pretty weak and they have never been a team that scares me in recent years so I'm hopeful for a win.
Fuck em. Get the win and get our first 6 (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_4pt_Weekends.html).
RPI was almost Union's equal in the Mayor's cup in Albany. Union won near the end of OT.
Quote from: TrotskyFuck em. Get the win and get our first 6 (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_4pt_Weekends.html).
How have we not had a 6 point weekend yet??
ESPN+ is up. Video is good.
Sieve chants still ongoing, Union scores.
Union goal.
Very much on Shane.
Chippy game so far on Union's part
Union seems determined to start a scrum after every save their goalie makes.
Cornell to the PP. Union is physical. C'mon, stoppable force...
They're giving us a lot of skating room. I'm optimistic if that continues.
Quote from: stereaxCornell to the PP. Union is physical. C'mon, stoppable force...
Forgot how stoppable the force was. Christ.
DeSantis in the box. I guess delay of game bench minor?
The sloppy line changes continue.
Quote from: stereaxDeSantis in the box. I guess delay of game bench minor?
Nope, a TMM.
We had 2 of those last night for too many men
Union PP looks quite a bit more threatening than ours.
Would be cool if literally ANY of this roughing got called.
Union bringing way to much activity near the Cornell net.
Watching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Quote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
Zing!
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
Zing!
:)
Quote from: BearLover. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
We had one last night and one tonight. Unless you're counting RPI's penalty against us...
Quote from: sah67Quote from: BearLover. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
We had one last night and one tonight. Unless you're counting RPI's penalty against us...
Oh, my mistake. I interpreted a quote from Jones in last night's Sun article to indicate it was the second against us in the game.
Union is a better team than RPI.
I'm not liking the constant line changes-no continuity isn't helping
Quote from: Scersk '97Very much on Shane.
Looked to me more like a bad turnover and then not picking up the guy streaking through the slot, though I guess Shane gave up a bad rebound.
Whoever is running the PA system needs to stop leaning on the volume controls: the pumped in music keeps constantly shifting from barely audible to ear-splitting.
Two nice passes to empty space on the same shift.
Quote from: sah67Whoever is running the PA system needs to stop the pumped in music.
Fixed.
Ok so we get called for everything and they get called for nothing. Woot.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: sah67Whoever is running the PA system needs to stop the pumped in music.
Fixed.
Touche.
Cornell D-men creating some chances.
Quote from: sah67Two nice passes to empty space on the same shift.
I swear they can't make a play unless it goes backward first
Also, is our ice just bad now? Feels like too many blown tires tonight. But also Sean the usual equipment guy ain't here tonight...
Mother of God.
PSENICKA TO KOVICH AND GOAL!!!
Castagna floating down the tunnel once more with a loud "FUCK".
Quote from: stereaxCastagna floating down the tunnel once more with a loud "FUCK".
Floating, stick and gloves thrown down. Gave a high five to a kid amd now going further down.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: stereaxCastagna floating down the tunnel once more with a loud "FUCK".
Floating, stick and gloves thrown down. Gave a high five to a kid amd now going further down.
Grabbed at chest a bit. Medical lady doesn't seem happy. Wanted to talk to the coach.
Stay close and surprise them.
First good possession we have had in a WHILE reffed away. Fuckers.
This is chaotic but it's not awful. Our boring style is not inspiring and I have more hope when we just fuck around.
Union seems to be on their heels most of the second half of this period. We're throwing the body quite a bit more too.
TOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
Stop pulling it back to the point. Please.
O'Leary beats the goalie but gets foiled by the post.
Good period for Cornell. It's fun to watch O'Leary.
We are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
Quote from: TrotskyTOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
Stop pulling it back to the point. Please.
THIS
No Castagna to start the 3rd.
Quote from: pjd8Quote from: TrotskyTOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
TOWARDS THE NET
Stop pulling it back to the point. Please.
THIS
This, and a couple of other things:
Make quick decisions with the puck.
If you see a lane, shoot.
If you see a guy set up a screen, shoot.
Pass/clear the puck with authority.
Step toward a pass to receive it. (Bancroft.)
Quote from: TrotskyWe are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
Good things happen when you shoot!
And we're pausing for another ice repair via watering can.
Not to be an alarmist, but given the standings I would say we absolutely have to come back and win in regulation to have a shot at a bye this year.
Which we can. This team can do that. Especially at home.
1-3. Off the powerplay, entered zone and bam. Christ.
Same shit every weekend. So fucking depressing.
Maybe the Court will wipe out all the goals by the dark jerseys.
Ok so we're just not gonna score on this goalie. Got it.
Quote from: stereaxOk so we're just not gonna score on this goalie. Got it.
We need 3. We can get 3 in like 5 minutes,.
Unfortunately, we only have 1 in 45 minutes
Quote from: stereaxOk so we're just not gonna score on this goalie. Got it.
As soon as I read "their goaltending is weak" in the first post, I could have predicted this.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereaxOk so we're just not gonna score on this goalie. Got it.
We need 3. We can get 3 in like 5 minutes,.
Can we?
Quote from: TrotskyWe are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
This was a funny post. Because, while we were clearly outplaying Union at this point, no one in their right mind believed this team could actually come back.
We could use a CJ Young hat trick here.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyWe are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
This was a funny post. Because, while we were clearly outplaying Union at this point, no one in their right mind believed this team could actually come back.
I did and do. I have seen us rescue a win a dozen times.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyWe are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
This was a funny post. Because, while we were clearly outplaying Union at this point, no one in their right mind believed this team could actually come back.
I did and do. I have seen us rescue a win a dozen times.
So have I. Not this year.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyWe are in an good spot. We dominated for 10 minutes, but enough of the tactical approach. Pepper this fucker. This will be won purely by spastic action.
This was a funny post. Because, while we were clearly outplaying Union at this point, no one in their right mind believed this team could actually come back.
I did and do. I have seen us rescue a win a dozen times.
I feel like it was more likely when we were only down by one. Seems like this goalie just hates us. We can for sure still do it, but...
The 6 on 5 looks good at least. Refs missed a Union dude dragging O'Leary across the ice with his stick.
can someone buy bancroft a stick that isn't made of balsa? i stg he's busted at least three on slapshots this year.
Jesus fuck.
Quote from: ugartecan someone buy bancroft a stick that isn't made of balsa? i stg he's busted at least three on slapshots this year.
The bench was nuts when that happened. Backup trainer was struggling to get a stick out.
Quote from: ugartecan someone buy bancroft a stick that isn't made of balsa? i stg he's busted at least three on slapshots this year.
You're completely right about this. Composites were a mistake.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
Tough loss. Good goaltending by Union.
I spent most of the game running errands and driving around while listening to Grady and Tim and my god is Tim exhausted by how reluctant these guys are to pull the trigger. You can literally hear him sigh as he says "I really thought he was going to shoot it there..." as another pass fails to find a blade.
This team can't one-time a beach ball. Always gotta hesitate, stick-handle a bit, until the passing lanes close or the goalie gets back into position. Totally unimpressive watching the (lack of) skill on this team.
Quote from: ugarteI spent most of the game running errands and driving around while listening to Grady and Tim and my god is Tim exhausted by how reluctant these guys are to pull the trigger. You can literally hear him sigh as he says "I really thought he was going to shoot it there..." as another pass fails to find a blade.
Those shots would never go in anyway. It's always forehand, backhand, forehand, shot, rather than a quick release. Same with the passing. The end result is the D/goalie is always in position by the time the Cornell player gets rid of the puck.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: ugarteI spent most of the game running errands and driving around while listening to Grady and Tim and my god is Tim exhausted by how reluctant these guys are to pull the trigger. You can literally hear him sigh as he says "I really thought he was going to shoot it there..." as another pass fails to find a blade.
Those shots would never go in anyway. It's always forehand, backhand, forehand, shot, rather than a quick release. Same with the passing. The end result is the D/goalie is always in position by the time the Cornell player gets rid of the puck.
Another thing Tim was talking about was Union going one-touch on the power play.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
::shrug:: aren't we tired enough of the constant dooming that there are SEVERAL threads about it? I usually don't reply, but I'm just exhausted at this point, and it feels like it's not only me. Am I supposed to go around banging the drum like WE SUCK, THERE'S NO HOPE, SEASON'S OVER, EVERYONE FAILED SCHAFER? Or am I allowed to enjoy the team?
There's a group of kids here, most of whom got sticks or pucks or something from the team (home or away), and they're all super happy, even if the team sucked and we lost and the sky is falling. Borrow some happiness. Find the joy in things. And breathe. It's just a hockey game. We're not going to die if we don't get a bye or win the ECACs. Enjoy things as they are and as they come.
I'm just happy I have a nice hockey team I can watch twice a week that plays hockey. And yeah, maybe I only started being a Cornell fan this year. Sure, I don't know the lore of the 70s and 80s and 90s; that was before I was born. I don't know the full significance of Schafer, don't know just how beloved he is by all of you guys. But I do enjoy this team. I enjoy the people on this forum (at least, when we're not dooming like the program will shut down with every turnover). I just like hockey, man, and it's nice to talk hockey with people. These players are my age, or a little older or younger. It's tough for me to be too hard on them on a public forum. You never know who's reading what. And it's really not that deep, to me, you know? Maybe I yap and complain in person, but it's all just... coming from a place of love, of wanting this team to do better, to play up to the potential we know they have. We don't know the full of what's going on in the locker room - who's playing at 100%, who's hurt, who's sick.
I just... I want to give them grace. And I feel like, as it gets less and less likely that we get the bye, that we win the playoffs - that we just... give them grace. Next year is another season.
I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see this wrong, but that's my outlook on it all. :)
Cornell had plenty of opportunities but couldn't get more than one goal. I was surprised at how easy it was to get into the Union zone
Awful performance and terrible crowd. This combined with the basketball loss makes for a pretty terrible day. I've been on Shane's ass all year and I've really had enough. He let in a couple softies tonight and even if you can say that he hasn't been bad most of the games, that's not enough, you need to actually be good. These are the types of games Shane would steal for us in previous years but instead he keeps his save percentage below 0.900. Please give keopple at least one game next weekend, he has been nothing but good and unless they're fully trusting that Roest will be the starter next year (bad idea), he is the future in goal. Don't even know where to go from here but just start winning.
The analytics say we won easily. I'm not believing my lying eyes I'm going with the numbers!
Seriously, I just feel bad for Schafer. As stereax suggets, I'll get over this, it's a fun diversion when we win, a frustrating one when we lose, but it's not my life. It's sort of is Coach's. He deserved better this year.
Quote from: arugulaThe analytics say we won easily. I'm not believing my lying eyes I'm going with the numbers!
Seriously, I just feel bad for Schafer. As stereax suggets, I'll get over this, it's a fun diversion when we win, a frustrating one when we lose, but it's not my life. It's sort of is Coach's. He deserved better this year.
Well, part of what makes this season so frustrating to us fans is that fact that we wanted Schafer to go out with a bang. Instead, we're on track for the second lowest finish in the Pairwise in his 30 seasons.
The good news is, it frees up our Friday and Saturday nights for the rest of the season.
While a conference tournament always gives you something to play for, nothing this team is showing us tells me they have a deep run in them. Lots of circling in the offensive zone with not much to show for it, and when we get a rare open shot, we inevitably miss the cage or shoot it in the goalie's midsection.
As others have said Cornell hockey is a nice diversion, but at this point the season seems to be going nowhere. As Brooklyn Dodgers fans famously said (before my time) after annual disappointment, "wait till next year!"
Also lets not forget that the women look like a serious contender and lacrosse looks very promising.
Quote from: arugulaAlso lets not forget that the women look like a serious contender and lacrosse looks very promising.
The women's team is making me super excited too! Not a fan of lax (yet) but I do have a discount code from the Boulevard event to burn... should probably go watch a lacrosse game and see how it goes. :)
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
::shrug:: aren't we tired enough of the constant dooming that there are SEVERAL threads about it? I usually don't reply, but I'm just exhausted at this point, and it feels like it's not only me. Am I supposed to go around banging the drum like WE SUCK, THERE'S NO HOPE, SEASON'S OVER, EVERYONE FAILED SCHAFER? Or am I allowed to enjoy the team?
There's a group of kids here, most of whom got sticks or pucks or something from the team (home or away), and they're all super happy, even if the team sucked and we lost and the sky is falling. Borrow some happiness. Find the joy in things. And breathe. It's just a hockey game. We're not going to die if we don't get a bye or win the ECACs. Enjoy things as they are and as they come.
I'm just happy I have a nice hockey team I can watch twice a week that plays hockey. And yeah, maybe I only started being a Cornell fan this year. Sure, I don't know the lore of the 70s and 80s and 90s; that was before I was born. I don't know the full significance of Schafer, don't know just how beloved he is by all of you guys. But I do enjoy this team. I enjoy the people on this forum (at least, when we're not dooming like the program will shut down with every turnover). I just like hockey, man, and it's nice to talk hockey with people. These players are my age, or a little older or younger. It's tough for me to be too hard on them on a public forum. You never know who's reading what. And it's really not that deep, to me, you know? Maybe I yap and complain in person, but it's all just... coming from a place of love, of wanting this team to do better, to play up to the potential we know they have. We don't know the full of what's going on in the locker room - who's playing at 100%, who's hurt, who's sick.
I just... I want to give them grace. And I feel like, as it gets less and less likely that we get the bye, that we win the playoffs - that we just... give them grace. Next year is another season.
I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see this wrong, but that's my outlook on it all. :)
I'm a kindred soul with you Stereax.
In every game there are always many cool moments. How about last night when Suda saved one right in front of the goal? I loved that. And that neat little DeSantis pass for the O'Leary goal: unreal. And tonight there was that fast pass from Bancroft to Walsh who streaked down to right in front of the net, Union's goaltender made a great save but such cool (almost) execution. There, I am admiring a failed play.
As for "Amateur Hour," that's kinda funny: they are of course amateurs: superbly talented, hardworking young amateurs, some teenagers even. They have been having a disappointing season. But even if it were over now there would still be cool highlights: Beating NoDak 2x, the win at MSG, pounding Harvard at Lynah. All terrific!!
And my 5-year old niece is still talking about the puck given to her by Cornell Hockey at the Princeton game.
Imagine Schafer at his son's wedding checking the score and punching a hole in the wall
Quote from: chimpfoodAwful performance and terrible crowd. This combined with the basketball loss makes for a pretty terrible day. I've been on Shane's ass all year and I've really had enough. He let in a couple softies tonight and even if you can say that he hasn't been bad most of the games, that's not enough, you need to actually be good. These are the types of games Shane would steal for us in previous years but instead he keeps his save percentage below 0.900. Please give keopple at least one game next weekend, he has been nothing but good and unless they're fully trusting that Roest will be the starter next year (bad idea), he is the future in goal. Don't even know where to go from here but just start winning.
Roest has left his USHL team and is headed to the Cowicham Valley Capitals of the BCHL. I'm not sure if CJ is willing to carry four goalies, but it's really looking like Cornell is going to need to find one in the transfer portal for next season.
After heroics last night, the game ends with Psenicka giving zero hustle. I'm annoyed by lack of effort.
I didnt see lack of effort at all
Lack of results sure
we outshot them 23-11 the last 2 periods and got out scored 3-1
Union goalie played well.
But 3 min of extra man and 3 PP come up with zero once again as it has all season.
This team doesn't need a bye. It needs to play, and hope at some point it clicks into goals.
We have dominated too many end of game periods with nothing to show for it.
What we really don't have is that guy that scares the other team. no real leader.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
::shrug:: aren't we tired enough of the constant dooming that there are SEVERAL threads about it? I usually don't reply, but I'm just exhausted at this point, and it feels like it's not only me. Am I supposed to go around banging the drum like WE SUCK, THERE'S NO HOPE, SEASON'S OVER, EVERYONE FAILED SCHAFER? Or am I allowed to enjoy the team?
There's a group of kids here, most of whom got sticks or pucks or something from the team (home or away), and they're all super happy, even if the team sucked and we lost and the sky is falling. Borrow some happiness. Find the joy in things. And breathe. It's just a hockey game. We're not going to die if we don't get a bye or win the ECACs. Enjoy things as they are and as they come.
I'm just happy I have a nice hockey team I can watch twice a week that plays hockey. And yeah, maybe I only started being a Cornell fan this year. Sure, I don't know the lore of the 70s and 80s and 90s; that was before I was born. I don't know the full significance of Schafer, don't know just how beloved he is by all of you guys. But I do enjoy this team. I enjoy the people on this forum (at least, when we're not dooming like the program will shut down with every turnover). I just like hockey, man, and it's nice to talk hockey with people. These players are my age, or a little older or younger. It's tough for me to be too hard on them on a public forum. You never know who's reading what. And it's really not that deep, to me, you know? Maybe I yap and complain in person, but it's all just... coming from a place of love, of wanting this team to do better, to play up to the potential we know they have. We don't know the full of what's going on in the locker room - who's playing at 100%, who's hurt, who's sick.
I just... I want to give them grace. And I feel like, as it gets less and less likely that we get the bye, that we win the playoffs - that we just... give them grace. Next year is another season.
I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see this wrong, but that's my outlook on it all. :)
I'm with you!
I enjoy the games regardless.
I see how hard the guys work every day at the rink, in the weight room, and in class.
No one wants a better result than these guys.
No one wants to make the playoffs more than these guys.
They've been plagued by injury after injury, sickness after sickness, many guys dressing for games that are still sick or injured just so they can fill enough of a roster to play.
Please stop the harping and gloom and doom and keep hoping for continued health and healing.
We will still have a team next year regardless of this year's outcome.
Is it just me or have the crowds kind of sucked this year? Very little energy from the students. Almost no chants. Even versus Harvard, I think I heard five or so chants the whole game and they only came from A/B, C barely participated and D not at all.
I appreciate people's optimism/willingness to continue to watch a total disaster of a season. Personally, I've given up. I'm instead looking forward to seeing if the women can make a run this year, watching men's basketball in the Ivy tourney, and following lacrosse. The men's hockey team is my one true love, though, and absent a national title in one of our other sports, nothing is going to take the sting out of this season.
Well with the NIH news coming out we wont have to worry about hockey ever again.
Quote from: upprdeckWell with the NIH news coming out we wont have to worry about hockey ever again.
Huh
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: arugulaAlso lets not forget that the women look like a serious contender and lacrosse looks very promising.
The women's team is making me super excited too! Not a fan of lax (yet) but I do have a discount code from the Boulevard event to burn... should probably go watch a lacrosse game and see how it goes. :)
Yes you should. I saw my first lacrosse game when I was a Cornell undergraduate and wound up playing intercollegiate lacrosse on a club team in graduate school. Besides being great fun, getting me into the best shape of my life, and teaching me so much about teamwork, lacrosse taught me much about other sports because it combines elements from so many: basketball, hockey, & soccer to name a few.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckWell with the NIH news coming out we wont have to worry about hockey ever again.
Huh
University is in a world of hurt if this funding dries up, they already sent out campus emails.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
::shrug:: aren't we tired enough of the constant dooming that there are SEVERAL threads about it? I usually don't reply, but I'm just exhausted at this point, and it feels like it's not only me. Am I supposed to go around banging the drum like WE SUCK, THERE'S NO HOPE, SEASON'S OVER, EVERYONE FAILED SCHAFER? Or am I allowed to enjoy the team? ... I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see this wrong, but that's my outlook on it all. :)
i know the inherent pot/kettle in me saying this but... you can ignore him if the results-supported gloom is bothering you. the commitment to making him a whipping boy for being right first is what drives multiple threads about it and very clearly has only made him more trolly. He revives the clownlover thread after every loss and while i probably wouldn't go back to that well quote so often... he earned it. he was right!
i, on the other hand, *can't* really ignore this kind of post. this insistence that to be critical or disappointed or frustrated is some kind of moral failing. that i should think about the smiling children seeing their first game. get the fuck out of here! I'm very happy for the kids to have those experiences and enjoy hearing about them but they are NOT why I've spent more than 30 years invested in this hockey team.
or keeping in mind that the players are barely adults themselves. again, no. that's why i give them grace for almost anything but how they play hockey for 60 minutes twice a week. that's the part i watch. i react to what i see.
for all the years I've spent on here, the bridges I've built and burned, the one thing i can't abide is this place turning into a hugbox like the old Roundtable.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckWell with the NIH news coming out we wont have to worry about hockey ever again.
Huh
Derps cut medicine --> everybody dies --> no more worries
What's missing in contemporary society is a hero standing up for petulant entitled assholes.
Quote from: upprdeckWell with the NIH news coming out we wont have to worry about hockey ever again.
Lawsuits will be filed tomorrow. One expert estimated that 80% of these tactics will be struck down by the courts in short order. The rest of the time, these tactics will likely gain some traction before sanity is restored.
The hockey lesson in that: 20% of the time chaos gets some results. At this point, I think we need to just throw more at the net and be ready to pounce on the resulting bounces. Goals aren't going to happen with the points passing back and forth to each other.
Quote from: pjd8At this point, I think we need to just throw more at the net and be ready to pounce on the resulting bounces..
That goalie last night gave up no rebounds. Early on they were letting fly and had bodies going to the net. Sometime after the Penney in the crease call they went back to passing around and looking for the perfect opportunity.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: ugarteQuote from: stereaxQuote from: BearLoverWatching this team play is amateur hour every night. Bad turnovers, soft goals, looks like no structure at all on the breakout. Oh, and three too many men on the ice penalties within four periods.
Watch a team you like, dude
welcome to elynah but grow a thicker skin please or at least stop pandering to the people most reflexively reactive to criticism. you've been watching the team for three months.
::shrug:: aren't we tired enough of the constant dooming that there are SEVERAL threads about it? I usually don't reply, but I'm just exhausted at this point, and it feels like it's not only me. Am I supposed to go around banging the drum like WE SUCK, THERE'S NO HOPE, SEASON'S OVER, EVERYONE FAILED SCHAFER? Or am I allowed to enjoy the team? ... I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see this wrong, but that's my outlook on it all. :)
i know the inherent pot/kettle in me saying this but... you can ignore him if the results-supported gloom is bothering you. the commitment to making him a whipping boy for being right first is what drives multiple threads about it and very clearly has only made him more trolly. He revives the clownlover thread after every loss and while i probably wouldn't go back to that well quote so often... he earned it. he was right!
i, on the other hand, *can't* really ignore this kind of post. this insistence that to be critical or disappointed or frustrated is some kind of moral failing. that i should think about the smiling children seeing their first game. get the fuck out of here! I'm very happy for the kids to have those experiences and enjoy hearing about them but they are NOT why I've spent more than 30 years invested in this hockey team.
or keeping in mind that the players are barely adults themselves. again, no. that's why i give them grace for almost anything but how they play hockey for 60 minutes twice a week. that's the part i watch. i react to what i see.
for all the years I've spent on here, the bridges I've built and burned, the one thing i can't abide is this place turning into a hugbox like the old Roundtable.
But think of the smiling children!!
I am new here and still learning the unwritten ELynah rules. So patience please. I'll do my best to dial down any mention of happy children or babes who received free Cornell Big Red pucks.
And I won't do any hugging, so if you see me at Lynah DO NOT try to scam a hug out of me. My sister is much more of a loose canon but she's an adult, so.
Daughter not available for hugs. Duh.
I hereby pledge that if I post a positive comment about the team, even if it's: "those away uniforms are really red," I will make sure it is surrounded by plenty of screeds about how the team sucks.
And Bearlover, for all your negativity, you make insightful comments about hockey, so thanks for that.
XO ELynah
The Women's team is so hot right now. I hope they can keep their foot on the gas pedal.
Quote from: SnowballI am new here and still learning the unwritten ELynah rules. So patience please. I'll do my best to dial down any mention of happy children or babes who received free Cornell Big Red pucks.
And I won't do any hugging, so if you see me at Lynah DO NOT try to scam a hug out of me. My sister is much more of a loose canon but she's an adult, so.
Daughter not available for hugs. Duh.
I hereby pledge that if I post a positive comment about the team, even if it's: "those away uniforms are really red," I will make sure it is surrounded by plenty of screeds about how the team sucks.
And Bearlover, for all your negativity, you make insightful comments about hockey, so thanks for that.
XO ELynah
no offense snowball, but this misses the entire point of my post. i don't mind positivity. i do mind reflexive reaction and hostility to negative observation. enjoy the games.
Guy who was angry posters were criticizing posters rather than the team now criticizing posters.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: stereaxQuote from: arugulaAlso lets not forget that the women look like a serious contender and lacrosse looks very promising.
The women's team is making me super excited too! Not a fan of lax (yet) but I do have a discount code from the Boulevard event to burn... should probably go watch a lacrosse game and see how it goes. :)
Yes you should. I saw my first lacrosse game when I was a Cornell undergraduate and wound up playing intercollegiate lacrosse on a club team in graduate school. Besides being great fun, getting me into the best shape of my life, and teaching me so much about teamwork, lacrosse taught me much about other sports because it combines elements from so many: basketball, hockey, & soccer to name a few.
I'll have to check when I've got free weekends then. Any intel on which home game(s) would be the best to watch?
Quote from: pjd8The hockey lesson in that: 20% of the time chaos gets some results.
You miss 100% of the children you don't target.
Quote from: SnowballI am new here and still learning the unwritten ELynah rules. So patience please. I'll do my best to dial down any mention of happy children or babes who received free Cornell Big Red pucks.
And I won't do any hugging, so if you see me at Lynah DO NOT try to scam a hug out of me. My sister is much more of a loose canon but she's an adult, so.
Daughter not available for hugs. Duh.
I hereby pledge that if I post a positive comment about the team, even if it's: "those away uniforms are really red," I will make sure it is surrounded by plenty of screeds about how the team sucks.
And Bearlover, for all your negativity, you make insightful comments about hockey, so thanks for that.
XO ELynah
Team's awful, we're never going to be good again, everyone sucks, and if the team doesn't win 15-0 they're a blight upon humanity. Of course.
At some point, what does the complaining give you? Genuinely. If you're going to go on longwinded rants every single week about some twenty-somethings underperforming in the sharp shoes on ice sport and saying how much you hate the team and how you've given up... what does it change?
You're not going to win every year. You're not going to go undefeated every year Because Cornell or Because Schafer or whatever. Maybe last year was an overperformance that set the bar too high. Maybe this year is uniquely bad because goaltending or injuries or sickness or defense or limp powerplay or whatever it is. It's probably a bit of both. We can't predict the future and whether we'll be terrible next season. There are reasons we might be (Shane leaving with no succession plan) and reasons we might not (the resurgence of the skaters). Even if we're bottom of the ECAC, I'll be at Lynah every home weekend, rooting for my guys and hoping they do win.
I'm not asking for a "hugbox". I think there's definitely room to have open debates and discuss things and be more pessimistic or more optimistic. But sometimes I read these posts and I genuinely wonder whether some of us are still fans of the team or if they just like to watch the team fail so they can gloat that they were "right" about something. It's like the wins mean nothing and the losses mean everything.
I could complain. There are definitely reasons to complain! I just choose not to, because... no offense, I have better things to worry about than whether Castagna is washed or something (even though it feels like he takes a big knock every single weekend and I would be surprised if he was playing at even 90% prior to the injury on Saturday).
I watch hockey to escape from my problems for a few hours. Not to give myself more of them. I watch hockey to get out of the house and talk to people who share a common interest and cheer for my school and my team. To see my hockey players make crazy plays and sometimes score, to remind the other goalie that he is in fact a sieve, to enjoy myself on weekend nights before I go back to wanting to cry over
Pennoyer v Neff.
Life is miserable. Hockey doesn't have to be. If that doesn't make me a real fan, then so be it, I guess.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: SnowballI am new here and still learning the unwritten ELynah rules. So patience please. I'll do my best to dial down any mention of happy children or babes who received free Cornell Big Red pucks.
And I won't do any hugging, so if you see me at Lynah DO NOT try to scam a hug out of me. My sister is much more of a loose canon but she's an adult, so.
Daughter not available for hugs. Duh.
I hereby pledge that if I post a positive comment about the team, even if it's: "those away uniforms are really red," I will make sure it is surrounded by plenty of screeds about how the team sucks.
And Bearlover, for all your negativity, you make insightful comments about hockey, so thanks for that.
XO ELynah
Team's awful, we're never going to be good again, everyone sucks, and if the team doesn't win 15-0 they're a blight upon humanity. Of course.
At some point, what does the complaining give you? Genuinely. If you're going to go on longwinded rants every single week about some twenty-somethings underperforming in the sharp shoes on ice sport and saying how much you hate the team and how you've given up... what does it change?
You're not going to win every year. You're not going to go undefeated every year Because Cornell or Because Schafer or whatever. Maybe last year was an overperformance that set the bar too high. Maybe this year is uniquely bad because goaltending or injuries or sickness or defense or limp powerplay or whatever it is. It's probably a bit of both. We can't predict the future and whether we'll be terrible next season. There are reasons we might be (Shane leaving with no succession plan) and reasons we might not (the resurgence of the skaters). Even if we're bottom of the ECAC, I'll be at Lynah every home weekend, rooting for my guys and hoping they do win.
I'm not asking for a "hugbox". I think there's definitely room to have open debates and discuss things and be more pessimistic or more optimistic. But sometimes I read these posts and I genuinely wonder whether some of us are still fans of the team or if they just like to watch the team fail so they can gloat that they were "right" about something. It's like the wins mean nothing and the losses mean everything.
I could complain. There are definitely reasons to complain! I just choose not to, because... no offense, I have better things to worry about than whether Castagna is washed or something (even though it feels like he takes a big knock every single weekend and I would be surprised if he was playing at even 90% prior to the injury on Saturday).
I watch hockey to escape from my problems for a few hours. Not to give myself more of them. I watch hockey to get out of the house and talk to people who share a common interest and cheer for my school and my team. To see my hockey players make crazy plays and sometimes score, to remind the other goalie that he is in fact a sieve, to enjoy myself on weekend nights before I go back to wanting to cry over Pennoyer v Neff.
Life is miserable. Hockey doesn't have to be. If that doesn't make me a real fan, then so be it, I guess.
Well stated, thank you
Quote from: stereaxWe can't predict the future and whether we'll be terrible next season. There are reasons we might be (Shane leaving with no succession plan)
When Galajda left there was no succession plan and out of it emerged Shane (the least likely of them at the time).
Quote from: stereaxLife is miserable. Hockey doesn't have to be. If that doesn't make me a real fan, then so be it, I guess.
It goes beyond that. The best sports stories aren't about how some team got all the best draft picks, never made a mistake, and cruised to a trophy. They're about overcoming adversity and beating the odds. It's about how, no matter how down you are, there is a chance things will be better tomorrow if you keep putting the effort in. Because sometimes, just sometimes, that Hail Mary pass works.
I know we all had high hopes for this season, and I know that Schafer's retirement has amplified the loss. There's plenty to criticize and be frustrated about. But this has gone way past misery loving company. It's now just wallowing in despair.
The sad thing is, we're all supposed to be on the same side. We complain when the guys on the ice can't work together as a team, but then we take out our frustration by sniping at each other. Can we really expect a bunch of 18-22 year olds to outdo us in maturity?
Quote from: TrotskyGuy who was angry posters were criticizing posters rather than the team now criticizing posters.
Jesus Christ this is embarrassing even for you
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyGuy who was angry posters were criticizing posters rather than the team now criticizing posters.
Jesus Christ this is embarrassing even for you
Funny. I was thinking the same about you.
Why can't you take the distaff posters' sage advice? Even when you're dealing with the most self-important Pick Me dingleberry with delusions of urbanity barely slip-covering his eggshell narcissism, we are all Faithful and we should 69 in the common love of Our Brave Lads.
Men are the worst.
Quote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: stereaxWe can't predict the future and whether we'll be terrible next season. There are reasons we might be (Shane leaving with no succession plan)
When Galajda left there was no succession plan and out of it emerged Shane (the least likely of them at the time).
I thought Howe was expected to be the starter until the injuries and poor performance derailed him before he either left the team or was kicked off of it after one semester.
have fun folks
This is sad. There's nothing wrong with criticism, and being glum, annoyed, frustrated at high hopes being dashed. I have felt it all myself. It's the self-delusional preening, the proclamations of "I/he was right" when "he" wasn't, the smug assertions of "proof" where none exists, the bombast -- I could go on. At best, I'm just going to assume some people have no clue they act that way.
Quote from: IcebergI thought Howe was expected to be the starter until the injuries and poor performance derailed him before he either left the team or was kicked off of it after one semester.
I didn't recall if that was the plan. This is how the season played out. It wasn't clear to me that Howe was the guy. It wasn't until Shane got his chance that they ran with someone.
McDonald OT W
Howe OT W
Howe L HARVARD
McDonald W
Howe W
Howe W
McDonald OT W
McDonald W
Howe W MSG
McDonald W
McDonald SO L
Howe L
McDonald L pulled for Shane in 2nd
Shane W NODAK
Shane W NODAK
Shane W
Shane L
Shane OT W QPAC
Shane SO L
Shane SO L HARVARD
Shane L
Shane L
Shame SO L
Howe L
McDonald W
Shane OT L
McDonald W
Shane W
Shane W
Shane W ECAC Rnd 2
Shane L pulled for Howe in 2nd
Shane L
Quote from: adamwThis is sad. There's nothing wrong with criticism, and being glum, annoyed, frustrated at high hopes being dashed. I have felt it all myself. It's the self-delusional preening, the proclamations of "I/he was right" when "he" wasn't, the smug assertions of "proof" where none exists, the bombast -- I could go on. At best, I'm just going to assume some people have no clue they act that way.
I know this (and many of your other posts) are thinly veiled swipes at me. Pretty tiring at this point TBH. Also hypocritical, given the only person who asserted things matter-of-factly and dismissively was you. I'm over this argument, but if you're going to pop back in every few days and take another swipe at me then I'm gonna respond. So maybe just don't do that, and we can finally put this to bed.
Quote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: IcebergI thought Howe was expected to be the starter until the injuries and poor performance derailed him before he either left the team or was kicked off of it after one semester.
I didn't recall if that was the plan. This is how the season played out. It wasn't clear to me
that Howe was the guy. It wasn't until Shane got his chance that they ran with someone.
McDonald OT W
Howe OT W
Howe L HARVARD
McDonald W
Howe W
Howe W
McDonald OT W
McDonald W
Howe W MSG
McDonald W
McDonald SO L
Howe L
McDonald L pulled for Shane in 2nd
Shane W NODAK
Shane W NODAK
Shane W
Shane L
Shane OT W QPAC
Shane SO L
Shane SO L HARVARD
Shane L
Shane L
Shame SO L
Howe L
McDonald W
Shane OT L
McDonald W
Shane W
Shane W
Shane W ECAC Rnd 2
Shane L pulled for Howe in 2nd
Shane L
What ever happened to Howe? Can't find him anywhere.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: IcebergI thought Howe was expected to be the starter until the injuries and poor performance derailed him before he either left the team or was kicked off of it after one semester.
I didn't recall if that was the plan. This is how the season played out. It wasn't clear to me
that Howe was the guy. It wasn't until Shane got his chance that they ran with someone.
McDonald OT W
Howe OT W
Howe L HARVARD
McDonald W
Howe W
Howe W
McDonald OT W
McDonald W
Howe W MSG
McDonald W
McDonald SO L
Howe L
McDonald L pulled for Shane in 2nd
Shane W NODAK
Shane W NODAK
Shane W
Shane L
Shane OT W QPAC
Shane SO L
Shane SO L HARVARD
Shane L
Shane L
Shame SO L
Howe L
McDonald W
Shane OT L
McDonald W
Shane W
Shane W
Shane W ECAC Rnd 2
Shane L pulled for Howe in 2nd
Shane L
What ever happened to Howe? Can't find him anywhere.
Left or got kicked off the team. I've heard some rumors but getting kicked off seems likely as he hasn't played since and multiple other guys left at the same time.
Before that season, when was the last time Cornell had three goalies make at least eight appearances each?