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Title: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 12, 2025, 11:23:13 AM
The first half was forgettable: 6-5-4 overall, 3-3-2 in conference.  What's done is done.

The second half begins next week, with 7 ECAC weekends.  

1 @ Prn/Qpc
2 Hvd/Drt
3 @ SLU/Clk
4 RPI/Uni
5 @ Brn/Yal
6 Clk/SLU
7 @ Uni/RPI

10 of those 14 games are against teams below us in PWR, but of course Sacred Heart was well below us in PWR.  I think the reasonable hope is to finish top 4 in the conference, secure a first round bye and a home quarterfinal, and then fight it out to cap the season with a Lake Placid run with the chance of a miracle title and likely one-and-done NC$$ appearance.  They are not a reasonable Frozen Four contender.  Given what we thought we had this summer that's sad, but life is hard.

I am looking forward to 14 nail biters and hoping enough go our way that we can finish 4th and then roll the dice.  That has been Cornell hockey for the vast majority of its history since Harkness left.  It is not a Greek Tragedy.  It is still a team almost anyone in the ECAC would kill for.

Let's Go Red!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on January 12, 2025, 11:39:13 AM
I agree that we need to shift to focusing on the ECAC now but saying that we need a miracle run to win the ECAC and aren't gonna win an NCAA game even if we do seems silly. We're not in a good spot but I can definitely see that this team can be good if we turn a corner and we've already seen it for flashes
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 12, 2025, 11:52:04 AM
I disagree with the notion that for most of the last 50 years we've been playing nailbiters and praying they break our way. I can't really speak to the years before Schafer, but this is not remotely how things have been for the past 30 years under his coaching regime. Schafer has won like 2/3 of his games coached and regularly blown out weaker opposition. In our best years like 03, 05, 10, 18, 20, we expected to win almost every game and did win most of them by multiple goals. Even in our good but not amazing seasons like last year we won many games easily. Through 15 games this season we have one(!!!) comfortable victory, a 5-0 win over Princeton at home (where SOG were actually even). Every game this year has been a huge struggle, and this is NOT the norm.

Yes, top four ECAC seed is the hope, but we are in a hole and things have not been trending upwards. Also, this is a nitpick, but we are not 6-5-4 overall or 3-3-2 in league. That counts our OT win as a regulation win, which it is not for both PWR and ECAC standings. We have  losing record in the ECAC and need to finish in the top 4. Highly doable but worse than a coin flip right now.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Cop at Lynah on January 12, 2025, 01:03:16 PM
Don't know if the expectations were to great or the chemistry changed or whatever is going on, but this is quickly turning into a lost season.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Dafatone on January 12, 2025, 01:21:07 PM
Something that hasn't come up much is that sure, we only lost one player, but Seger was about as good a player last year as I've ever seen at Cornell.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: marty on January 12, 2025, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: DafatoneSomething that hasn't come up much is that sure, we only lost one player, but Seger was about as good a player last year as I've ever seen at Cornell.

As an offensive leader and captain - yes!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Swampy on January 12, 2025, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: DafatoneSomething that hasn't come up much is that sure, we only lost one player, but Seger was about as good a player last year as I've ever seen at Cornell.

As an offensive leader and captain - yes!

And a face-off machine! But strangely, if my memory serves, this year has not seen a drastic decrease in face-offs won.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 12, 2025, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: DafatoneSomething that hasn't come up much is that sure, we only lost one player, but Seger was about as good a player last year as I've ever seen at Cornell.
And now Penney.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Snowball on January 13, 2025, 11:00:48 PM
Son came to Cornell in the "Barron Era." I went to my first hockey game ever - not knowing a thing about it.  I figure skate so I immediately appreciated the agility and swiftness of the guys' skating: Yanni Kandis in particular stood out. In the beginning, I couldn't even "see" where the puck was. But watching the guys fly on the ice, experiencing the fun inside Lynah - I googled the rules and learned. I read the Dryden book: outstanding. Am now hooked on hockey.

Daughter and niece accepted a few years later.  I make excuses to get to Ithaca: clean daughter's kitchen and watch 2 hockey games. Get to see Ben Berard shoot, Steinberg pick fights and Malinski perform wonders. Soon season tickets are an excuse in and of themselves.

I'm in Florida in March of 2024 watching ESPN when they defeat RPI and it becomes apparent that Cornell will face Harvard in the playoffs. Can't stay away. The next Friday, I take the  5:50 am flight out of Florida and 3 flights later I am in Ithaca with my sister '02, daughter '25  and niece '24. Wegmans has no fish for the rest of the week. An octopus is scraped off the ice. Cornell takes Harvard apart. Twice.

I have a long list of favorites moments:

- Watching directly overhead from the Lynah bar as Kyle Penney, with quiet authority,  strips an opponent of the puck
- The joy of Kemp and Robinson when they each make their goal in the shootout
- Robinson threading perfect passes that are finished by, pick someone, Bancroft or Walsh?
- The Castagna-Mack-O'Leary line making a goal
- Castagna on his edges driving towards the goal
- Kyle Penny's short-handed goal!
- The lightening speed of O'Leary or Kraft, and the subsequent alarm of the opposite team
- Walsh stealing the puck and getting it to Bancroft for a shorty
-  All of Rego's wrap and jams
- Fegaras' skating, and shooting, love to watch him
- Walsh or Psenicka, in front of the goal, scoring with a quick tip or tuck in
- Delvin, Bancroft or Wallace putting on a heavy hit
- Charlie Major's OT game winner, a minute after the crowd was chanting his name
- Suda's fantastic shoot-out goal vs. SH

And of course: games Cornell was suppose to lose:

- Defeating  Nbr 1 Quinnipiac, 2x (Overrated cheer anyone?)
- Beating Nbr 1 ranked  Denver 2-0 in the 2023 NCAA finals
- Taking down Nodak 4x and Minnesota Duluth 2x- bursting those Midwest schools expectations of East Coast and Ivy League  hockey

And Sigh: every game at MSG with its giant crowd of loyal Cornelians.

I could go on, but you'd stop reading. In short, Cornell hockey has brought me great joy.

By all accounts this group of fine hardworking young men and they are juggling academics (night prelim anyone???) with practices, extra practices, long bus rides, charitable events and alumni dinners and never mind sorority formals. They're probably playing with at least some pain: according to my husband who in the Stone Age was a D-1 athlete,  it's the norm.

I don't really spend time wondering about the inner workings of the team. The questions I demand to be answered are more along the lines of: how could Kyle Betts earn a 4.2 in Electrical Engineering AND play hockey? Circuits alone should have derailed his hockey career.

I enjoy even the games they lose. Honest. Parts of them.

I'll be at Hobey Baker rink this Friday with my 3 little nieces decked in red.  They'll slap the hands of the players as they emerge from the locker room. It will be fantastic. Go Big Red!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: fastforward on January 14, 2025, 12:49:28 AM
Quote from: SnowballSon came to Cornell in the "Barron Era." I went to my first hockey game ever - not knowing a thing about it.  I figure skate so I immediately appreciated the agility and swiftness of the guys' skating: Yanni Kandis in particular stood out. In the beginning, I couldn't even "see" where the puck was. But watching the guys fly on the ice, experiencing the fun inside Lynah - I googled the rules and learned. I read the Dryden book: outstanding. Am now hooked on hockey.

Daughter and niece accepted a few years later.  I make excuses to get to Ithaca: clean daughter's kitchen and watch 2 hockey games. Get to see Ben Berard shoot, Steinberg pick fights and Malinski perform wonders. Soon season tickets are an excuse in and of themselves.

I'm in Florida in March of 2024 watching ESPN when they defeat RPI and it becomes apparent that Cornell will face Harvard in the playoffs. Can't stay away. The next Friday, I take the  5:50 am flight out of Florida and 3 flights later I am in Ithaca with my sister '02, daughter '25  and niece '24. Wegmans has no fish for the rest of the week. An octopus is scraped off the ice. Cornell takes Harvard apart. Twice.

I have a long list of favorites moments:

- Watching directly overhead from the Lynah bar as Kyle Penney, with quiet authority,  strips an opponent of the puck
- The joy of Kemp and Robinson when they each make their goal in the shootout
- Robinson threading perfect passes that are finished by, pick someone, Bancroft or Walsh?
- The Castagna-Mack-O'Leary line making a goal
- Castagna on his edges driving towards the goal
- Kyle Penny's short-handed goal!
- The lightening speed of O'Leary or Kraft, and the subsequent alarm of the opposite team
- Walsh stealing the puck and getting it to Bancroft for a shorty
-  All of Rego's wrap and jams
- Fegaras' skating, and shooting, love to watch him
- Walsh or Psenicka, in front of the goal, scoring with a quick tip or tuck in
- Delvin, Bancroft or Wallace putting on a heavy hit
- Charlie Major's OT game winner, a minute after the crowd was chanting his name
- Suda's fantastic shoot-out goal vs. SH

And of course: games Cornell was suppose to lose:

- Defeating  Nbr 1 Quinnipiac, 2x (Overrated cheer anyone?)
- Beating Nbr 1 ranked  Denver 2-0 in the 2023 NCAA finals
- Taking down Nodak 4x and Minnesota Duluth 2x- bursting those Midwest schools expectations of East Coast and Ivy League  hockey

And Sigh: every game at MSG with its giant crowd of loyal Cornelians.

I could go on, but you'd stop reading. In short, Cornell hockey has brought me great joy.

By all accounts this group of fine hardworking young men and they are juggling academics (night prelim anyone???) with practices, extra practices, long bus rides, charitable events and alumni dinners and never mind sorority formals. They're probably playing with at least some pain: according to my husband who in the Stone Age was a D-1 athlete,  it's the norm.

I don't really spend time wondering about the inner workings of the team. The questions I demand to be answered are more along the lines of: how could Kyle Betts earn a 4.2 in Electrical Engineering AND play hockey? Circuits alone should have derailed his hockey career.

I enjoy even the games they lose. Honest. Parts of them.

I'll be at Hobey Baker rink this Friday with my 3 little nieces decked in red.  They'll slap the hands of the players as they emerge from the locker room. It will be fantastic. Go Big Red!
Fantastic post!
Glad to see the bright side of things despite the recent turn of events. Enjoy Princeton! I wanted to make the trek but work is the ticket for me!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: TimV on January 14, 2025, 09:33:31 AM
Snowball, that was beautiful.   One is not enough.  Please post more- I would love to read your thoughts as this and future seasons unfold.  This place was getting dark and bitter. When you can, go to more road games.  Also a great experience. I recommend skipping Brown.::snore::
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: marty on January 14, 2025, 12:22:20 PM
There is not a "Snowball's chance in..." that I could have posted something this wonderful.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Swampy on January 14, 2025, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: TimVSnowball, that was beautiful.   One is not enough.  Please post more- I would love to read your thoughts as this and future seasons unfold.  This place was getting dark and bitter. When you can, go to more road games.  Also a great experience. I recommend skipping Brown.::snore::

I disagree. This year in particular, Brown may be important as a chance for the team to wake up (and avoid another event like SHU).
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: arugula on January 14, 2025, 12:43:49 PM
Quote from: SnowballSon came to Cornell in the "Barron Era." I went to my first hockey game ever - not knowing a thing about it.  I figure skate so I immediately appreciated the agility and swiftness of the guys' skating: Yanni Kandis in particular stood out. In the beginning, I couldn't even "see" where the puck was. But watching the guys fly on the ice, experiencing the fun inside Lynah - I googled the rules and learned. I read the Dryden book: outstanding. Am now hooked on hockey.

Daughter and niece accepted a few years later.  I make excuses to get to Ithaca: clean daughter's kitchen and watch 2 hockey games. Get to see Ben Berard shoot, Steinberg pick fights and Malinski perform wonders. Soon season tickets are an excuse in and of themselves.

I'm in Florida in March of 2024 watching ESPN when they defeat RPI and it becomes apparent that Cornell will face Harvard in the playoffs. Can't stay away. The next Friday, I take the  5:50 am flight out of Florida and 3 flights later I am in Ithaca with my sister '02, daughter '25  and niece '24. Wegmans has no fish for the rest of the week. An octopus is scraped off the ice. Cornell takes Harvard apart. Twice.

I have a long list of favorites moments:

- Watching directly overhead from the Lynah bar as Kyle Penney, with quiet authority,  strips an opponent of the puck
- The joy of Kemp and Robinson when they each make their goal in the shootout
- Robinson threading perfect passes that are finished by, pick someone, Bancroft or Walsh?
- The Castagna-Mack-O'Leary line making a goal
- Castagna on his edges driving towards the goal
- Kyle Penny's short-handed goal!
- The lightening speed of O'Leary or Kraft, and the subsequent alarm of the opposite team
- Walsh stealing the puck and getting it to Bancroft for a shorty
-  All of Rego's wrap and jams
- Fegaras' skating, and shooting, love to watch him
- Walsh or Psenicka, in front of the goal, scoring with a quick tip or tuck in
- Delvin, Bancroft or Wallace putting on a heavy hit
- Charlie Major's OT game winner, a minute after the crowd was chanting his name
- Suda's fantastic shoot-out goal vs. SH

And of course: games Cornell was suppose to lose:

- Defeating  Nbr 1 Quinnipiac, 2x (Overrated cheer anyone?)
- Beating Nbr 1 ranked  Denver 2-0 in the 2023 NCAA finals
- Taking down Nodak 4x and Minnesota Duluth 2x- bursting those Midwest schools expectations of East Coast and Ivy League  hockey

And Sigh: every game at MSG with its giant crowd of loyal Cornelians.

I could go on, but you'd stop reading. In short, Cornell hockey has brought me great joy.

By all accounts this group of fine hardworking young men and they are juggling academics (night prelim anyone???) with practices, extra practices, long bus rides, charitable events and alumni dinners and never mind sorority formals. They're probably playing with at least some pain: according to my husband who in the Stone Age was a D-1 athlete,  it's the norm.

I don't really spend time wondering about the inner workings of the team. The questions I demand to be answered are more along the lines of: how could Kyle Betts earn a 4.2 in Electrical Engineering AND play hockey? Circuits alone should have derailed his hockey career.

I enjoy even the games they lose. Honest. Parts of them.

I'll be at Hobey Baker rink this Friday with my 3 little nieces decked in red.  They'll slap the hands of the players as they emerge from the locker room. It will be fantastic. Go Big Red!

This was great.  Restored my faith just a bit. Been getting very negative here.  Baker Rink is worth an early arrival. Talk about historic!  A living museum. One of my favorite all time venues pro or college or anything else.  Ingalls Rink-the Whale- at Yale too.  Trying to get there if work will allow.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: George64 on January 14, 2025, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: arugulaThis was great.  Restored my faith just a bit. Been getting very negative here.  Baker Rink is worth an early arrival. Talk about historic!  A living museum. One of my favorite all time venues pro or college or anything else.  Ingalls Rink-the Whale- at Yale too.  Trying to get there if work will allow.

Thank you, Snowball, for your insightful and beautifully written post. I agree with arugula, eLynah has gotten very negative of late.  I now avoid certain threads entirely.

BTW, I've been following Cornell hockey since I matriculated in 1960. I've been there for the highs, Syracuse in 1967 and Lake Placid in 1970, and some disappointing seasons, too.  Hockey is a extraordinary sport, and at Cornell, played by extraordinary young men and women.  LGR!
.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 17, 2025, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: SnowballSon came to Cornell in the "Barron Era." I went to my first hockey game ever - not knowing a thing about it.  I figure skate so I immediately appreciated the agility and swiftness of the guys' skating: Yanni Kandis in particular stood out. In the beginning, I couldn't even "see" where the puck was. But watching the guys fly on the ice, experiencing the fun inside Lynah - I googled the rules and learned. I read the Dryden book: outstanding. Am now hooked on hockey.

Daughter and niece accepted a few years later.  I make excuses to get to Ithaca: clean daughter's kitchen and watch 2 hockey games. Get to see Ben Berard shoot, Steinberg pick fights and Malinski perform wonders. Soon season tickets are an excuse in and of themselves.

I'm in Florida in March of 2024 watching ESPN when they defeat RPI and it becomes apparent that Cornell will face Harvard in the playoffs. Can't stay away. The next Friday, I take the  5:50 am flight out of Florida and 3 flights later I am in Ithaca with my sister '02, daughter '25  and niece '24. Wegmans has no fish for the rest of the week. An octopus is scraped off the ice. Cornell takes Harvard apart. Twice.

I have a long list of favorites moments:

- Watching directly overhead from the Lynah bar as Kyle Penney, with quiet authority,  strips an opponent of the puck
- The joy of Kemp and Robinson when they each make their goal in the shootout
- Robinson threading perfect passes that are finished by, pick someone, Bancroft or Walsh?
- The Castagna-Mack-O'Leary line making a goal
- Castagna on his edges driving towards the goal
- Kyle Penny's short-handed goal!
- The lightening speed of O'Leary or Kraft, and the subsequent alarm of the opposite team
- Walsh stealing the puck and getting it to Bancroft for a shorty
-  All of Rego's wrap and jams
- Fegaras' skating, and shooting, love to watch him
- Walsh or Psenicka, in front of the goal, scoring with a quick tip or tuck in
- Delvin, Bancroft or Wallace putting on a heavy hit
- Charlie Major's OT game winner, a minute after the crowd was chanting his name
- Suda's fantastic shoot-out goal vs. SH

And of course: games Cornell was suppose to lose:

- Defeating  Nbr 1 Quinnipiac, 2x (Overrated cheer anyone?)
- Beating Nbr 1 ranked  Denver 2-0 in the 2023 NCAA finals
- Taking down Nodak 4x and Minnesota Duluth 2x- bursting those Midwest schools expectations of East Coast and Ivy League  hockey

And Sigh: every game at MSG with its giant crowd of loyal Cornelians.

I could go on, but you'd stop reading. In short, Cornell hockey has brought me great joy.

By all accounts this group of fine hardworking young men and they are juggling academics (night prelim anyone???) with practices, extra practices, long bus rides, charitable events and alumni dinners and never mind sorority formals. They're probably playing with at least some pain: according to my husband who in the Stone Age was a D-1 athlete,  it's the norm.

I don't really spend time wondering about the inner workings of the team. The questions I demand to be answered are more along the lines of: how could Kyle Betts earn a 4.2 in Electrical Engineering AND play hockey? Circuits alone should have derailed his hockey career.

I enjoy even the games they lose. Honest. Parts of them.

I'll be at Hobey Baker rink this Friday with my 3 little nieces decked in red.  They'll slap the hands of the players as they emerge from the locker room. It will be fantastic. Go Big Red!
:') This is the energy I need more of. Go Big Red :)
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 19, 2025, 10:59:15 AM
Cornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 19, 2025, 05:11:21 PM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

Actually we had a 3 goal lead going into the third at Princeton Friday night.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 19, 2025, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

Actually we had a 3 goal lead going into the third at Princeton Friday night.
I know. I could have been clearer. I was talking
 specifically about going into the third period with 1- and 2-goal leads in reference to the previous sentence about "small leads."
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: The Rancor on January 19, 2025, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

Actually we had a 3 goal lead going into the third at Princeton Friday night.
I know. I could have been clearer. I was talking
 specifically about going into the third period with 1- and 2-goal leads in reference to the previous sentence about "small leads."

Did you watch the game?
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 19, 2025, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

Actually we had a 3 goal lead going into the third at Princeton Friday night.
I know. I could have been clearer. I was talking
 specifically about going into the third period with 1- and 2-goal leads in reference to the previous sentence about "small leads."

Did you watch the game?
Yes
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: CU2007 on January 20, 2025, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead.

Cornell has been tied in every game we've ever played!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: ice on January 20, 2025, 08:52:16 PM
With regard to turning the page, I hope Cornell plays big this coming weekend and comes home with 6 points.  Also, it would be nice if the fish thing came to an end.  It looks stupid and it slows down the game.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 20, 2025, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: iceWith regard to turning the page, I hope Cornell plays big this coming weekend and comes home with 6 points.  Also, it would be nice if the fish thing came to an end.  It looks stupid and it slows down the game.

I would prefer they turn that tradition into a Teddy Bear Toss instead.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2025, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: iceAlso, it would be nice if the fish thing came to an end.  It looks stupid and it slows down the game.
I completely agree with you. But that's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on January 20, 2025, 10:57:26 PM
The amount of oldhead takes that go unopposed on this forum is outlandish.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2025, 11:23:03 PM
5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

Let's get back to tending our own garden.  Just one title in the last 13 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/ecac_Tournament/ecac_Tournament_Champs_Icon.html).  That aint right.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Swampy on January 20, 2025, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: RichH on January 21, 2025, 02:25:42 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

Huh?

https://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4500000/The-Princess-Bride-the-princess-bride-4546198-1280-720.jpg
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: RichH on January 21, 2025, 02:33:36 AM
Quote from: chimpfoodThe amount of oldhead takes that go unopposed on this forum is outlandish.

You say this on an actual internet bulletin-board style messaging website.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2025, 08:44:51 AM
This should be a lot better than a gen pop site.  The decline into idiocy is relatively recent.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2025, 08:45:46 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: ugarte on January 21, 2025, 09:08:55 AM
I definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: CU2007 on January 21, 2025, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

There's 1 or 2 people on here who only care about winning the ECAC and the NCAA tournament functions as some sort of barely relevant additional nice-to-have.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 21, 2025, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: chimpfoodThe amount of oldhead takes that go unopposed on this forum is outlandish.
I'm honestly surprised others here agree with me about the fish. I thought I was alone in thinking that. It's just really wasteful and messy and sometimes gives the other team a free power play. Living things get killed for food and then we purchase the carcasses just to splatter them on the ice before a hockey game?
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: arugula on January 21, 2025, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I confess that in 86 I dared to dream.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: arugula on January 21, 2025, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I confess that in 86 I dared to dream.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.


In 86 I dared to dream.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: adamw on January 21, 2025, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: marty on January 21, 2025, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Give My Regards on January 21, 2025, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.

I read (or mis-read) the original post as meaning they had high hopes for 1990-91, the year before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics ('92).  My way-too-vivid memories of that season may have interfered with my perception there.

If we're talking "most disappointing seasons in Cornell hockey history", I know this is more than four years ago, but 1991 is way the hell up there for me.  As is 2013 for very different reasons.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: ugarte on January 21, 2025, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: marty
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.

I read (or mis-read) the original post as meaning they had high hopes for 1990-91, the year before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics ('92).  My way-too-vivid memories of that season may have interfered with my perception there.
That is, of course, what i meant. I had high hopes for the team in 1991 and going forward with two stud underclassmen then we lost them both to Team Canada after the 1990-91 season.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2025, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: CU2007There's 1 or 2 people on here who only care about winning the ECAC and the NCAA tournament functions as some sort of barely relevant additional nice-to-have.

Take out the provoking "only" and "barely relevant" and you have me.

Every year my goal is to win the ECAC Tournament.  Of course I would love to win a National Championship; that would be spectacular.  But it isn't the primary aim.

I guess it is a difference in life philosophy.  I set a realistic goal and am deeply satisfied if they achieve it.  Of course if there is more it's joyful, but it's ancillary.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on January 22, 2025, 10:17:54 PM
I was listening to the CHN podcast and it got me thinking if we might add another transfer or two for next year. We're graduating a bunch of guys and the incoming class is small and some guys have been disappointing in juniors. With the chl rules and limited roster spots likely affecting other teams and AICs entire team entering the portal, there may be more proven college players available.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2025, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: ugarteThat is, of course, what i meant.
FWIW I read it that way first pass.  I thought it was obvious.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: abmarks on January 23, 2025, 04:10:00 AM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

On the Q broadcast, the announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: abmarks on January 23, 2025, 04:13:18 AM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

The Q announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams have been protecting a lead.  Iirc they said that in games where we have the lead going into the third period, we are like 73-0-2 or something crazy like that over the past years.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: marty on January 23, 2025, 05:47:09 AM
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

The Q announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams have been protecting a lead.  Iirc they said that in games where we have the lead going into the third period, we are like 73-0-2 or something crazy like that over the past years.

Don't poke the bear Clown.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2025, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

The Q announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams have been protecting a lead.  Iirc they said that in games where we have the lead going into the third period, we are like 73-0-2 or something crazy like that over the past years.

Don't poke the bear Clown.
I must really rile you up, eh? 99% of your posts are just insults directed towards me. What's your end game exactly? I'm clearly never going to stop posting.  If you aren't capable of offering up interesting thoughts about the hockey team (something I haven't seen you do in a long time/possibly ever), then maybe consider moving to Twitter or a similar place that is centered around trashing people.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: marty on January 23, 2025, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

The Q announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams have been protecting a lead.  Iirc they said that in games where we have the lead going into the third period, we are like 73-0-2 or something crazy like that over the past years.

Don't poke the bear Clown.
I must really rile you up, eh? 99% of your posts are just insults directed towards me. What's your end game exactly? I'm clearly never going to stop posting.  If you aren't capable of offering up interesting thoughts about the hockey team (something I haven't seen you do in a long time/possibly ever), then maybe consider moving to Twitter or a similar place that is centered around trashing people.

This morning my end game was to write a self contradictory sentence that would entice you to waste your precious time.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2025, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

The Q announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams have been protecting a lead.  Iirc they said that in games where we have the lead going into the third period, we are like 73-0-2 or something crazy like that over the past years.

Don't poke the bear Clown.
I must really rile you up, eh? 99% of your posts are just insults directed towards me. What's your end game exactly? I'm clearly never going to stop posting.  If you aren't capable of offering up interesting thoughts about the hockey team (something I haven't seen you do in a long time/possibly ever), then maybe consider moving to Twitter or a similar place that is centered around trashing people.

This morning my end game was to write a self contradictory sentence that would entice you to waste your precious time.
I don't like the term "living rent free in your head" but...I think you might have an obsession
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 23, 2025, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007There's 1 or 2 people on here who only care about winning the ECAC and the NCAA tournament functions as some sort of barely relevant additional nice-to-have.

Take out the provoking "only" and "barely relevant" and you have me.

Every year my goal is to win the ECAC Tournament.  Of course I would love to win a National Championship; that would be spectacular.  But it isn't the primary aim.

I guess it is a difference in life philosophy.  I set a realistic goal and am deeply satisfied if they achieve it.  Of course if there is more it's joyful, but it's ancillary.
Nodding along to this. Would it be insane and awesome to win the national? Yeah. Is it gonna happen? Probably not. Just play good hockey and I'm happy tbh.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: billhoward on January 23, 2025, 03:24:44 PM
A first-round bye in the ECACs is possible. Finishing third is the best way to hold off, until the ECAC title game, a fourth match of the season against the Q team running away from the pack. Last year, we managed to avoid Q in the ECAC semis, while the St. Lawrence goalie stood on his head Friday night in Lake Placid and knocked out the Bobcats in the other semifinal, and we got an easier game against SLU.

Also in Cornell's favor: We get injured players back end of January/early February. We  have games in hand, 10 ECAC games played while the six higher-ECAC-standings teams have played 13 games (Q), 12 (Union, Harvard), 11 (Dartmouth), 10 (Clarkson, Colgate). Going into the Harvard-Dartmouth weekend, we are seventh (in points) or sixth (in Pct.) with 16 points and 36 more points available. We are 5 points out of third, 6 points out of second.

Among top ECAC teams, their RPI numbers are:
14  Quinnipiac
20  Cornell
22  Dartmouth
25  Clarkson
26  Colgate
41  Union
42  Harvard
44  Princeton
46  Brown
50  RPI
52  Yale
61  St Lawrence

... so based on PWR, we will go 12-0. In theory. I believe the flying fish energizes Harvard as much as Cornell. We have now been holding that grudge for, like, 52 or 53 years, from the time when Harvard fans tied a chicken to the Cornell net between periods.

This is like Irish Alzheimer's: You forget everything but the grudge.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: upprdeck on January 23, 2025, 03:28:35 PM
We pretty control our destiny all the way to 3rd. Lets hope we play like that
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2025, 08:27:59 PM
"Never lose again."
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Snowball on January 24, 2025, 03:16:37 PM
Well what a weekend!!! Two fantastic games, thank you Cornell hockey.

A power play goal in each game! And the Catalano-Rayhill-O'Brien line standing tall.

Loved seeing the D get so many pucks to the net and the forwards being there to deflect it in or bury a rebound. That's the way to do it: Replay the remarkable goal by DeSantis or see Stanley throwing it on net and Bancroft potting the rebound.

Speaking of Stanley: he  has 27 blocks so far this season. As a mother: ouch, as a hockey fan: that's literally putting your body on the line for the team.

How about Walsh's and then Castagna's breakaway goals: those two move more like arrows from a bow than skaters: Now I truly understand what fast-twitch muscle is.

And Shane was stellar against Q-pak. Awesome Ian!

Regarding throwing fish: it seems to me that this tradition isn't going away anytime soon. For years Cornell has sent out a mixed-message: an email warning that fish throwing won't be tolerated that's illustrated with a hilarious photo of a man on the ice holding an enormous fish.
A few years ago Martha called Wegmans and requested that they stop selling fish to students before the Harvard game.  Wegmans politely declined.

Sympathy for the players: they have to smell fishy ice the entire game.  I wonder if Tiger-Balm under the nose might help (quite effective when using the facilities in lesser-developed countries).

 Personally, I think its fun as long as the students don't take it too far: no throwing fish after the initial pre-game volley, no direct targeting of the Harvard team, no small things on the ice like Swedish Fish that can be dangerous to the players. If you are reading this students please comply, XO. I have a lot of respect for the Harvard player who chipped a fish back into the student section a few years ago.

Los Angeles is burning and it snowed 8 inches in Florida.  Surely there will be a plague of locusts next.  In the meantime we have Cornell Hockey.

On my way to Ithaca now - I am so excited: anticipating excellent games.  Cornell down 5 forwards but their chins are up!!

Let's go Red!
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 24, 2025, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: SnowballOn my way to Ithaca now - I am so excited: anticipating excellent games.  Cornell down 5 forwards but their chins are up!!

Let's go Red!
You're going to be at the game tonight? Wonderful!!! :D will definitely be there too, maaaybe I'll see some of you around? (No, for real, I'd love to meet anyone who's at the game)

I'm super excited for this weekend - I haven't had a chance to attend a game since early December, what with the away slate and then my own holiday travels. Plus, the fact that every time I even acknowledge an away game a goal gets scored against us means I'm banned from watching on ESPN, haha. By all accounts, it sounds like it's going to be the game of the year for the experience alone.

Man... I'm really really excited, hahaha :')

I think we've established some good momentum and if we can have two solid showings this week, it'll go a LONG way for us.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: margolism on January 24, 2025, 04:05:30 PM
I interpreted the sign to mean no helmets on fish.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Snowball on January 24, 2025, 04:34:50 PM
3 Blonde women, various ages, all in Red.  Maybe we will see you at Boulevard, not sure if we will make it.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 24, 2025, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Snowball3 Blonde women, various ages, all in Red.  Maybe we will see you at Boulevard, not sure if we will make it.
Copy. Younger girl, Red jersey, black coat. My bag has a reindeer and a dog plushie in it - makes it easy to find :)
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: sah67 on January 24, 2025, 06:50:15 PM
FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 24, 2025, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: sah67FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Oh??? Any info why?
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 24, 2025, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Oh??? Any info why?

Someone who was at the CHA lunch today said that Schafer noted he had to "remove someone from the team."  No reason given.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on January 28, 2025, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Oh??? Any info why?

Someone who was at the CHA lunch today said that Schafer noted he had to "remove someone from the team."  No reason given.
Been poking around the last few days. Seems no more info. Having to be removed from the team is a baaaad way of putting it and makes me think it's possible something unsavory happened. Visa doesn't make sense, I don't think there's a minimum GPA requirement to stay rostered, either, and I doubt it's something tuition-related. Unless Steele wanted to go to another hockey program where he'd get more playing time? But this is all fairly baseless speculation, so take it at face value.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: pjd8 on January 29, 2025, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Tcl123 on January 29, 2025, 07:43:42 AM
Quote from: pjd8
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.

That was a LONG train ride from Syracuse to Ann Arbor.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 29, 2025, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: pjd8
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.
I distinctly remember early in his freshman season Manderville blew through the entire defense using his signature Crane Kick maneuver as if they were pylons.  Even casual fans had heard some rumors of a "super freshman," which was unheard of in the age before social media and Elite Prospects, and we all just looked at each other like "this kid is going to score 60 goals a year."  

Funny story: Cornell taught him the boring, responsible defense that kept him in the NHL > 10 years.  And man he hated every second of it.  And everybody thought this was a case of "the only person who can hold Michael Jordan under 30 points a night is Dean Smith," but coaching knew best.  

I leave any present day implications as an exercise for the reader.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: pjd8 on January 29, 2025, 05:09:03 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: pjd8
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.
I distinctly remember early in his freshman season Manderville blew through the entire defense using his signature Crane Kick maneuver as if they were pylons.  Even casual fans had heard some rumors of a "super freshman," which was unheard of in the age before social media and Elite Prospects, and we all just looked at each other like "this kid is going to score 60 goals a year."  

Funny story: Cornell taught him the boring, responsible defense that kept him in the NHL > 10 years.  And man he hated every second of it.  And everybody thought this was a case of "the only person who can hold Michael Jordan under 30 points a night is Dean Smith," but coaching knew best.  

I leave any present day implications as an exercise for the reader.

I remember those 747 turns he used to take. Start at the red line, go behind our net, then by the time he hit the red line again, he was flying. Too bad it took half the rink to get there.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: ugarte on January 29, 2025, 05:19:57 PM
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Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.
i didn't go to ann arbor for this so i've never seen the tying/winning goals. i want to see those highlights very badly.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on January 29, 2025, 08:17:37 PM
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Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

My favorite Mandy moment. Yost was *soooo* quiet after that goal, with the exception of a small group of out-of-towners.
I distinctly remember early in his freshman season Manderville blew through the entire defense using his signature Crane Kick maneuver as if they were pylons.  Even casual fans had heard some rumors of a "super freshman," which was unheard of in the age before social media and Elite Prospects, and we all just looked at each other like "this kid is going to score 60 goals a year."  

Funny story: Cornell taught him the boring, responsible defense that kept him in the NHL > 10 years.  And man he hated every second of it.  And everybody thought this was a case of "the only person who can hold Michael Jordan under 30 points a night is Dean Smith," but coaching knew best.  

I leave any present day implications as an exercise for the reader.

I remember those 747 turns he used to take. Start at the red line, go behind our net, then by the time he hit the red line again, he was flying. Too bad it took half the rink to get there.
I'd have said aircraft carrier.  I don't know how a 6-2 kid played larger than Zdeno Chara.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on January 31, 2025, 05:22:53 PM
According to CHN the ivies are not opting in to the house settlement. Probably a good thing in terms of hockey, a larger roster should help us a lot in future years, especially compared to the opt in teams that will be limited to 26.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: arugula on June 08, 2025, 11:45:59 PM
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Quote from: sah67FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Oh??? Any info why?

Someone who was at the CHA lunch today said that Schafer noted he had to "remove someone from the team."  No reason given.
Been poking around the last few days. Seems no more info. Having to be removed from the team is a baaaad way of putting it and makes me think it's possible something unsavory happened. Visa doesn't make sense, I don't think there's a minimum GPA requirement to stay rostered, either, and I doubt it's something tuition-related. Unless Steele wanted to go to another hockey program where he'd get more playing time? But this is all fairly baseless speculation, so take it at face value.


Steele has signed with Sheffield in the British league.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: stereax on June 09, 2025, 02:00:14 AM
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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
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Quote from: sah67FWIW, Liam Steele has been removed from the team roster and his former bio page returns a 404 error now:

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster

https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/liam-steele/77788
Oh??? Any info why?

Someone who was at the CHA lunch today said that Schafer noted he had to "remove someone from the team."  No reason given.
Been poking around the last few days. Seems no more info. Having to be removed from the team is a baaaad way of putting it and makes me think it's possible something unsavory happened. Visa doesn't make sense, I don't think there's a minimum GPA requirement to stay rostered, either, and I doubt it's something tuition-related. Unless Steele wanted to go to another hockey program where he'd get more playing time? But this is all fairly baseless speculation, so take it at face value.


Steele has signed with Sheffield in the British league.
Best of luck to him. Guess maybe it was playing time or just homesickness.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on June 09, 2025, 11:05:19 PM
I wonder if Brit hockey has hooligans.

Edit: no, but apparently it needs (https://www.reddit.com/r/EIHLHockey/comments/1jz0qsh/why_is_uk_hockey_culture_so_cringe/) them.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on June 17, 2025, 01:26:15 PM
Walsh and Bancroft on the bruins dev camp roster. Walsh listed as limited to off ice activity, I think he had a cast/sling this spring so not surprising. Also on the roster is Ben Robertson.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: scoop85 on June 17, 2025, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodWalsh and Bancroft on the bruins dev camp roster. Walsh listed as limited to off ice activity, I think he had a cast/sling this spring so not surprising. Also on the roster is Ben Robertson.

Ben who?
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: chimpfood on July 02, 2025, 05:55:38 PM
All ECAC academic team was released and we had 27 guys on it. Kind of switches from praising guys for good performance to shaming the ones that didn't make it when everyone but two players (Donaldson and Major to save you time) make it.

All American scholars are Kovich, Mack, Psenicka, Rego, Devlin and Stanley.

Stanley also got ECAC commissioners list, whatever that means.
Title: Re: Turn the page: the 2025 second half
Post by: Trotsky on July 04, 2025, 12:20:27 AM
Quote from: chimpfoodStanley also got ECAC commissioners list, whatever that means.

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