The band will be in section 121.
Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.
Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.
that league tends to play a bunch of earlier games on Sat. For travel I suspect
Quote from: Chris '03The band will be in section 121.
Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.
Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.
It's a good thing I saw this post. I would've assumed a 7 PM start time. Also, I imagine there will be a heavy Cornell contingent due to the location, similar to what should be the case at Yale next month
and people need to buy FLO to watch it as well.
Its not really clear if you cancel the annual plan if they will stop charging you for the year or just not renew it next year.
Going both nights!
Cornell Alumni chapter having a reception at the Sitting Duck Tavern in Trumbull Friday pregame. I'm excited to see the new arena as I hear it is beautiful...albeit small. They are a pesky team and it won't be easy to sweep them out of there. We must score goals. More than we give up. Can we get rolling?
Note that the annual plan is BILLED ANNUALLY so if you sign up for it and then cancel, you are still on the hook for the entire year.
the one plan was a lower fee billed every month. But it said you could cancel but not clear on what you got back.
Quote from: Chris '03The band will be in section 121.
Saturday game is at 5 for whatever reason and they are expecting a sellout.
Edit: band moved. And sat is sold out.
What section is the visiting fans' section?
I have heard this barn is very nice.
Televised?
Quote from: HeafDogTelevised?
Therein lies a tale.
Well this intro music is certainly a choice.
Wikipedia informs me that Sacred Heart's mascot is "Big Red" the Pioneer.
Man I thought for a moment that faceoff music was Ramstein, but I should have known better.
Quote from: DafatoneWikipedia informs me that Sacred Heart's mascot is "Big Red" the Pioneer.
Their red is a ghetto #CE1141.
So close:
Referees: Matthew Fuller, Christopher Leavitt | Linesmen: Christopher Zito, Christopher Perterkin
Sounds like a softy.
It would be swell if we had the puck in the offensive zone and/or didn't give up a goal.
Did they steal our band?
Shot attempts 6-0 SHU, SHU pp coming up. This piped in music needs a Second Amendment remedy.
These announcers are mildly annoying. One guy was wearing the worst-fitting jacket I've seen in a while, though.
According to the announcers, half our players are Kyler Kovich.
Quote from: DafatoneAccording to the announcers, half our players are Kyler Kovich.
Which half?
To the SHU announcers' credit, they're willing to get a little excited when we score.
Quote from: HeafDogTelevised?
on flohockey.tv, which is a subscription but if this helps, it's for all flo channels. i subscribe already for wrestling.
that was one of the worst periods of hockey i've ever seen. fortunately their guy gave up one as soft as the one shane gave up.
So did Shane let in another soft goal? With an at-large bid basically out of reach, these two non-conference games would be the perfect time to get Keoppel or Katz some ice time. It seems like the plan is to give Shane every start this entire season even though he has struggled?
Statistically at least we dominated after the SHU goal. Before then they were up 6-0 in shot attempts and 4-0 in SOG. After it, we were 19-4, 9-1.
But I only have audio.
I thought Shane was screened but it was hard to tell. Not a great period although the second half was better than the first. SHU is tenacious in their zone but they've had guys get sucked into double coverage which has resulted in a few Cornell opportunities. Funny enough, the one goal was just a shot from the boards that Psenicka managed to deflect
Quote from: IcebergI thought Shane was screened but it was hard to tell. Not a great period although the second half was better than the first. SHU is tenacious in their zone but they've had guys get sucked into double coverage which has resulted in a few Cornell opportunities. Funny enough, the one goal was just a shot from the boards that Psenicka managed to deflect
IIRC Jason said he thought Shane was screened but on the replay he said probably not it was just a strange doink.
This could be a chippy weekend.
Quick 5x3 coming up.
Quote from: TrotskyQuick 5x3 coming up.
Bancroft put a nice shot off the pipe stick-side but it's very frustrating to watch them refuse to take the ice the defense gives them as they trace an umbrella. Watching a new power play on a really odd interference call. Looked like Mack blew a tire and it was called by the official farthest from the action.
As for the stats in the first period, the Cornell shot total obscures how awful the first 16 minutes were. The best play of the period was a bit of hero ball from Castagna that didn't get a shot but did force a trip that set up a power play.
Can we decline power plays?
Quote from: DafatoneCan we decline power plays?
They need to wear rose garters.
Taking control of draws now. We've taken 8 of the last 10 or so.
much better period. a lot of possession, a lot of crashing the net. mack is the one guy who is willing to shoot when he's got a B- look and i'd like to see him preach to his teammates. need a little more touch around the net and a bit more passing (and positioning to receive passes) instead of trying to skate through traffic. uncomfortable to go to the third tied but we're clearly establishing ourselves as controlling the run of play but until another one gets behind their goalie...
CT Ice is such a bad name for the UConn/QU/SHU/Yale tournament. Play for the Nutmeg Grater. Call the MVP the Nutmeg Grinder.
That looked awfully close to an overt dive.
Sacred Heart has a Tyler, a Reid, a Cole, a Hunter, and an Aiden. Somebody got conceived in 2003.
Quote from: DafatoneThat looked awfully close to an overt dive.
dive looked really bad on the replay but it also looked like bancroft got his hands up a little high - coincidental minors would probably have been justified.
To be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
end of the shu power play looked really bad for us; shane really earned his scholarship.
Quote from: TrotskyTo be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
you have no idea how trendy ajeet was in 2003 on desibaby.net.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyTo be fair, they also have an Ajeet.
you have no idea how trendy ajeet was in 2003 on desibaby.net.
I'm an Urban Baby man, myself.
Two calls? ::banana::
Quote from: TrotskyTwo calls? ::banana::
AND Mack got away with a swinging elbow! Come on Red. Don't waste a full 5x3.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyTwo calls? ::banana::
AND Mack got away with a swinging elbow! Come on Red. Don't waste a full 5x3.
I've seen this movie before
Penney would be nice here.
Ping!
Rink DJ plays:
"What is Love Baby Don't Hurt Me" when SHU goes on the kill
"Rude" when they go on the power play
Super Mario power up when they kill a penalty
Meanwhile, Bancroft snapped his stick on a great slapper opportunity and had another swallowed up by the goalie; Walsh banged one off the inside of the glove-side post that on replay seemed inconceivable that it didn't go in. That was about as a good a no-goal 5x3 will look. AND YET
Just keep coming. -- Ron Jeremy
Man. The season from hell continues. At least the game didn't count for anything.
This is really tough to watch. Just no chemistry on any line.
It's a tight, exciting game. Enjoy the struggle.
Really tough to watch. No chemistry between any of the players or on any of the lines.
Quote from: MattShafReally tough to watch. No chemistry between any of the players or on any of the lines.
It's amazing how it never improves, at all. I don't know if people need to be reminded, but Cornell is playing a bad team
Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We're running out of runway to hang our hat on "at least we outplayed them" but we outshot them two to one and pretty much controlled play after getting caught with our pants down for the first fifteen minutes.
Yay. A moral yay.
Quote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
Quote from: BearLover...?.../quote]
!!!
The good news is this had almost no impact on our RPI.
The bad news is that our record is meh enough for a road tie against Sacred Heart to have almost no impact on our RPI.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
PWR and RPI aren't really in play any more. It's all about Lake Placid. Work hard, get the guys back, build confidence, then take our chance in March.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
It made sense to keep playing Shane so long as the PWR was relevant. It's no longer relevant. Tomorrow is the least important game Cornell will play until 2025-26. Not playing a backup tomorrow would really just make no sense.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.
There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
We have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.
But we have to win a bunch.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
It made sense to keep playing Shane so long as the PWR was relevant. It's no longer relevant. Tomorrow is the least important game Cornell will play until 2025-26. Not playing a backup tomorrow would really just make no sense.
I think there's probably a reason we aren't. Jones understands we have to get to know what we have in net for next year, and for that matter log minutes in case something happens to Shane. It is blindingly obvious, so unless you believe they're stupid, there is a reason.
Quote from: DafatoneWe have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.
But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually
outside the blob now.
BearLover is correct saying tomorrow night's game means as little as any non-Exhibition ever could. If we were ever going to suit up Rayhill and put O'Leary in net, it's tomorrow.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneWe have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.
But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually outside the blob now.
Sure. I'm not gonna disagree with anyone who thinks we're not making that run. I just think the math is still there for us to be in it.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneWe have 15 games left. I bet if we go, like, 12-3, we'll be in the running on the pairwise. Since we're close to .500, there's a lot of room for our win% to go up if we win a bunch.
But we have to win a bunch.
Mmmmmaybe? I know there's a giant blob of meh from 15-25, but (1) there is no reason to think we are going 12-3 down the stretch, and (2) we're actually outside the blob now.
Sure. I'm not gonna disagree with anyone who thinks we're not making that run. I just think the math is still there for us to be in it.
It may be. Those cusp teams are tighter than I've learned not to say.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.
There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
You are not! You are specifically arguing that the coaching decisions are sacrosanct since we only get to see the games. That might be true - for all I know Keopple and Katz look awful and we're lucky that we never see it when it counts - but it's hardly worth stating but for the fact that you're knee-jerk reacting to someone upset about a really bad result. You see it as a dick measuring stick because *you* can't help but respond to every complaint without running interference, kumbaya shit or a complaint about Kids Today.
You *also* want to win the games; you aren't marking time until you die by watching hockey. BearLover's cope is "change something, anything for the sake of change." Your cope is deciding that's beyond the pale. My cope is whatever this is.
If we win the next three we're in the running for an at large by the Harvard/dartmouth series which is what I was hoping for going into break. If we drop even one game we probably just gotta put our heads down, rack up ECAC points for a bye (which we're not even in position to get at this point), and grind our way to lake placid. The next three being road games gives us a ton of room to move up if we get a streak going.
Quote from: chimpfoodIf we win the next three we're in the running for an at large by the Harvard/dartmouth series which is what I was hoping for going into break. If we drop even one game we probably just gotta put our heads down, rack up ECAC points for a bye (which we're not even in position to get at this point), and grind our way to lake placid. The next three being road games gives us a ton of room to move up if we get a streak going.
Take it one game at a time and win the next one.
Because we apparently haven't won a road game yet, so we gotta start somewhere.
Quote from: DafatoneTake it one game at a time
And, the good Lord willing,...
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.
There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
For what it's worth, I didn't watch the game, specifically because of what you said (it's a shitty way to spend my time).
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.
There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
For what it's worth, I didn't watch the game, specifically because of what you said (it's a shitty way to spend my time).
.
Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.
There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverCan we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out
We have no idea what is going on in practice.
Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.
goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.
I am not being an apologist. I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time. If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.
There's a reason I left. That demo is just so fucking weak.
You are not! You are specifically arguing that the coaching decisions are sacrosanct since we only get to see the games. That might be true - for all I know Keopple and Katz look awful and we're lucky that we never see it when it counts - but it's hardly worth stating but for the fact that you're knee-jerk reacting to someone upset about a really bad result. You see it as a dick measuring stick because *you* can't help but respond to every complaint without running interference, kumbaya shit or a complaint about Kids Today.
You *also* want to win the games; you aren't marking time until you die by watching hockey. BearLover's cope is "change something, anything for the sake of change." Your cope is deciding that's beyond the pale. My cope is whatever this is.
The notion that coaching decisions are sacrosanct is just ridiculous. It's not only Trotsky saying it, it's adamw and a host of others. The whole team is a disaster, obviously coaching has something to do with it. The notion that we shouldn't be disappointed is similarly ridiculous. It's early January in Schafer's last season and we've already resigned ourselves to just playing out the string and praying things break our way in the ECAC tournament! This season sucks! You don't need to be a pessimist like me to see that. Brutal results upon brutal results, soft goals given up every game, the PP never comes through, the whole team has been out of sync since day one.
And yes my knee-jerk reaction to yet another awful result is to repeat the same crap I say every week, but the apology tour being put on by this forum on behalf of the 2024-25 Cornell men's ice hockey team is equally tiresome at this point.
Another game, another poor performance.
Worst part is we will never know what's going on. Same team as last year and we have the worst season in 10 years. pretty incredible.
Quote from: TrotskyMaybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.
There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.
bandwagon fans stop watching. Nobody here isn't watching (bl's joke aside). in fact, we're watching quite closely.
Good news for tomorrow for those that get SNY-tape delay -it says Sunday ?
Cornell will conclude its non-conference portion of the regular season on Saturday when it returns to Martire Family Arena for a 5 p.m. puck drop against the Pioneers. Game action will be broadcast on FloHockey.tv, and air on SNY on a tape delay at 4 p.m. ET on Sunday. The game will also be carried over the airwaves on WHCU (870 AM, 97.7 FM, cortacatoday.com), featuring Jason Weinstein on play-by-play and Tony Eisenhut '88 providing analysis.
Quote from: TrotskyMaybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard. And then, if they won, my god what bliss! And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.
There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.
Yeah, when you're 8 and you go to Shea and the Mets fire Jeff Torborg mid-game and forget to play Take Me Out to the Ballgame in the chaos, well, it doesn't get worse than that.
Did anyone else think that Gundarah, who's listed as 6 feet 180, looked like he was at least 250? Bubble wrap or too many trips to a Tim Horton's?
Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Quote from: CU2007Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.
Quote from: CU2007Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).
It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How?????" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: CU2007Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.
Suda scored in the shootout at Harvard so I'd say he's more than capable. Even Kempf has appeared in shootouts occasionally
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU2007Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).
It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How?????" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.
Qpac at MSG makes sense because there's a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There's definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: CU2007Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?
Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).
It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How?????" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.
Qpac at MSG makes sense because there's a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There's definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd
It's fine to do a shootout at the Frozen Apple (I'm also not sure there's a trophy) but it's really funny how probably 95% of Cornell fans in attendance thought we "won" the game. And if you'd seen the Cornell Hockey social media posts you'd think we won too.
In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
Quote from: scoop85In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
This is at least more close to being accurate than "maybe the coaches agreed". We're no longer living in the 60's.
I think it's mandated too but I'm too lazy to check.
Quote from: scoop85In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
That's my recollection as well.
Quote from: scoop85In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
You are correct. In the 2024-25 and 2025-26 NCAA Ice Hockey Rules & Interpretations (https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4707-2024-25-and-2025-26-ncaa-ice-hockey-rules-interpretations.aspx), under "Major Rules Changes for 2024-25" we find
Quote91.2 Tied Games - Regular Season: All NCAA regular-season games
that remained tied will use a five-minute overtime period with
three skaters on each side (unless penalties are in effect). If the
game remains tied after the five-minute overtime, a shootout
will be conducted.
Quote from: BearLoverRelated question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception...
That's why. Forget it Jake. It's
Chinatown social media.
I listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
Quote from: VIEWfromKI listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: VIEWfromKI listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.
But it usually takes ten minutes.
Quote from: scoop85In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.
I thought so. Part of aping the N and the race to the bottom.
There's weird bounces and then there's that.
The announcers mentioned Donaldson is out of the lineup tonight and that last night's extra skater, O'Brien was slotting in to replace him. Do we have no extra skater tonight? Also I assume Donaldson is hurt, do we know when he's expected back?
16 faceoffs in the first 12:41.
Quote from: LeprechaunThe announcers mentioned Donaldson is out of the lineup tonight and that last night's extra skater, O'Brien was slotting in to replace him. Do we have no extra skater tonight? Also I assume Donaldson is hurt, do we know when he's expected back?
Wolfenberg is back too. Mike has been using 2 of those 3 in each game since Wolfy got back from injury.
Army just scored 7 goals on Mercyhurst.
In one period.
Good flurry at the end. Were it not for posts we'd be looking pretty good this weekend.
Team looks demoralized.
Worst team in the last 10 years
I have lost all of my weather resilience. It is 32 degrees here and I feel like I did when it was 12 in Ithaca.
Suboptimal.
What have their goals looked like?
Great save by Keoppel followed by Walsh goal. Net 2 turnaround. ::cheer::
I'm not saying anything anyone doesn't know, but Remington Keopple is a fantastic name.
Gotta say the band has sounded great all weekend.
Nothing to show for it, but our PP hasn't looked like an experimental art project designed to frustrate the viewer since the break.
That's something.
Quote from: TrotskyGotta say the band has sounded great all weekend.
The band always wins.
Quote from: DafatoneNothing to show for it, but our PP hasn't looked like an experimental art project designed to frustrate the viewer since the break.
That's something.
it's true.
and keopple made some nice saves off the bench
OK, let's get more than a post this time.
Skeptical of an advantage after that scrum, but what can you do.
Running out of time.
KRAFT!
Quote from: TrotskyKRAFT!
He's been due for one
Man that's a back breaking loss. I imagine we have to go with keopple vs Princeton on Friday and then stick with him Saturday if he does well and go back to Shane if he doesn't do great.
Don't suppose we can convince Gundarah to transfer next season.
Nothing left to say. This is just a terrible season and I'm happy with my decision to not watch and barely follow along this weekend. (Obviously, nothing wrong with watching, if that's your preference.) It's sad but I am going to try to move on and stop thinking about it.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: VIEWfromKI listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.
They did not scrape the ice at all after the conclusion of OT and the beginning of the shootout on Friday night. I was surprised when I didn't see a Zamboni come out to do so during the break.
Will be watching at placid.
Depressing season.
Quote from: TrotskyGotta say the band has sounded great all weekend.
It was an alumni pep band both nights, with a range of 30 different years of classes, including some current students.
On Friday night, the pep band barely got a chance to play. They had to try to sneak the alma mater in during a play stoppage during the third period, and weren't able to finish it before play resumed. I spoke with the person in charge of the pep band for the weekend before Saturday's game, and she told me it had been an even worse experience then playing at Quinnipiac. But she promised me things would be better Saturday, and they were. The pep band was able to play much more, and they played the complete alma mater during the first intermission. They also teamed up in the third period with the Sacred Heart pep band to play a song. The director told me this was the first time a visiting team had ever brought a pep band to Sacred Heart, so I guess it was a learning curve for whomever was making the music decisions in the arena.
I think Keopple should start against Princeton. Sadly, Ian just isn't as sharp as he was last year.
Did Shane let up soft goals again?
Why did Keoppel not start tonight? The world will never know.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: TrotskyGotta say the band has sounded great all weekend.
It was an alumni pep band both nights, with a range of 30 different years of classes, including some current students.
On Friday night, the pep band barely got a chance to play. They had to try to sneak the alma mater in during a play stoppage during the third period, and weren't able to finish it before play resumed. I spoke with the person in charge of the pep band for the weekend before Saturday's game, and she told me it had been an even worse experience then playing at Quinnipiac. But she promised me things would be better Saturday, and they were. The pep band was able to play much more, and they played the complete alma mater during the first intermission. They also teamed up in the third period with the Sacred Heart pep band to play a song. The director told me this was the first time a visiting team had ever brought a pep band to Sacred Heart, so I guess it was a learning curve for whomever was making the music decisions in the arena.
The band spanned '96-'28 and will be similarly mixed at Q next week.
The sense I get is SHU wants a pro vibe even more intensely than Q with overproduced noise. And it was not great for either band or the eardrums of anyone.
I couldn't watch most of the game after the 1st period but I do know Shane was pulled because I started watching again midway through the 3rd when it was 3-1. I'd have to see the highlights when they come out to get a better idea, but at this point, I'd be very surprised to not see Keopple actually starting at Princeton next weekend
Quote from: IcebergI couldn't watch most of the game after the 1st period but I do know Shane was pulled because I started watching again midway through the 3rd when it was 3-1. I'd have to see the highlights when they come out to get a better idea, but at this point, I'd be very surprised to not see Keopple actually starting at Princeton next weekend
I still don't understand how Keopple didn't get the start yesterday. Shane had given up at least one soft goal like five straight games, he hadn't had a night off all season, and yesterday's game didn't even matter! Per Casey's comments in the Sun article, the three goals Shane allowed last night weren't even his fault. It would be pretty wild if this is what caused him to finally lose his starting job.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: IcebergI couldn't watch most of the game after the 1st period but I do know Shane was pulled because I started watching again midway through the 3rd when it was 3-1. I'd have to see the highlights when they come out to get a better idea, but at this point, I'd be very surprised to not see Keopple actually starting at Princeton next weekend
I still don't understand how Keopple didn't get the start yesterday. Shane had given up at least one soft goal like five straight games, he hadn't had a night off all season, and yesterday's game didn't even matter! Per Casey's comments in the Sun article, the three goals Shane allowed last night weren't even his fault. It would be pretty wild if this is what caused him to finally lose his starting job.
Won't know until Friday if he's "lost his starting job." Sometimes a change is made to wake up the team.
Anyone find it odd that Casey did the post game interview with Jane and not Shafer?
Quote from: fastforwardAnyone find it odd that Casey did the post game interview with Jane and not Shafer?
I was wondering the same.
Quote from: BearLoverDid Shane let up soft goals again?
The first was a flutterer over his head off of a tip (boy it feels like that happens a lot). Second was a back door slam dunk when a guy went unchecked. The third was a rebound off his glove that he lost track of that went right to an open Pioneer on the backside who put it in before anyone could react. Cornell did come to life after the switch. They had multiple odd man rushes but mistakes (offside on a four on two and later a rink wide pass on a three on one that was intended for and just out of reach of the far winger instead of going to the closer player headed to the net) squandered some golden opportunities. The power play had it's moments but a couple of unforced errors led to lost possession time and ultimately no goals. They didn't give up and they made it a game and when they avoided a couple of close calls in their zone with the empty net I thought they were going to complete the comeback. A 190 footer sealed their fate though.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: VIEWfromKI listened to the game and it seemed like they got to the shootout pretty quickly after OT ended. I was also getting my youngster to bed so maybe it wasn't as quick as I thought but anyone who was there or watched on TV, did they do an ice scrape?
I know a lot of times they'll scrape one lane down the middle and that's it.
They did not scrape the ice at all after the conclusion of OT and the beginning of the shootout on Friday night. I was surprised when I didn't see a Zamboni come out to do so during the break.
I wish everyone would adopt that practice.
Quote from: Chris '03The sense I get is SHU wants a pro vibe
I don't think you can call flipping the lights off after goals a pro thing (at least not NHL) but how about during that late timeout the building goes dark while coaches are trying to draw up plays!
Were there a lot of standing room areas that were filled or were those genuine empty seats all over that place for that sold out game?
Quote from: VIEWfromKQuote from: Chris '03The sense I get is SHU wants a pro vibe
I don't think you can call flipping the lights off after goals a pro thing (at least not NHL) but how about during that late timeout the building goes dark while coaches are trying to draw up plays!
Were there a lot of standing room areas that were filled or were those genuine empty seats all over that place for that sold out game?
The concourse is huge and accommodates lots of standees but I got the sense many season ticket holders no showed. Saturday crowd was better than Friday but still a ton of empty seats and no tickets available for purchase.
I have many thoughts as I attended both games and left feeling pretty empty.
First the venue. Top notch with incredible slight lines and there is no bad seat. The music was terrible and very loud. I wonder if the school was in session there might have been a different vibe in the building....maybe slightly better. It was nice to have a cold one while watching as well. Could anyone go up top to the SHU Club above the ice? Looked nice up there! Getting out of the parking garage was horrible Friday night, like 40-45 minutes to exit a venue that had maybe 2,000 spectators in it. We wondered allowed if recruits are attracted to a shiny new building, or do they like an old barn like Lynah? Would a new AD, like we have now, who is more progressive, consider a new hockey venue? I personally would hate it, but it is 2025, and times change. Did anyone notice the sounder that played when SHU returned to full strength? Felt dirty, I like the slapping goalie stick....is it legal? Things I wonder about!
Friday night: Once we woke up from 10 minutes of slumber and a one goal deficient....I thought we were absolutely dominate. We won so many battles, we forechecked like crazy and SHU had so few chances. We had what felt like dozens of chances and capitalized on just one. Goalie was very solid, the posts were helpful and we took the extra pass or tried for the highlight reel pass and shot instead of just shooting the damn puck. Could have/should have been a comfortable 4-1 win. If it's driving us all crazy, how do you think the coaches and players feel? Maddening.
Saturday night: What I thought was another great effort. Hustle and grit, taking the body, flying around, buzzing...with nothing to show for it. Ian needs a break. Those who have said we should have started Remington were right on. We have all seen it and didn't want to believe it, but Shane is just, plain, off. He's been the reason for a lot of success over the years and this year it's just not the case. We aren't blocking as many shots and the screens have been numerous and other teams have found scoring is weirdly easy against our much talked about stout defense. 1st goal was a fluke (heard that before??) the other two, somehow Ian was way out of position....he lost the puck on the 3rd goal. We, sadly had a great view from 118 at both the goals. Painful. But the team never gave up, to their credit. They created a ton of chances and hit a few posts...but no puck luck, or any luck at all came our way. Did anyone comment on the great move by #38? JC beats his defender clean, and instead of just beating the goalie clean, he goes between his legs and tries that stupid flip shot? We need goals, not flash....if we had more skaters and health, I'd bench him for that crap.
I'm not giving up on this group at all, far from it. With parity running rampant through college hockey, anyone can beat anyone on a given night, but teams can get hot too. Maybe getting Penney back is more important than any of us know....he is the captain for a reason. It's getting late, but runs have happened before and the conference is primed to be taken, not sure this group has the overall balls to take it. It starts at Hobey Baker on Friday and the hated Q on Saturday. If there was a weekend to finally show up, it's this one. We can only hope.
#LGR
Quote from: dbilmesThe director told me this was the first time a visiting team had ever brought a pep band to Sacred Heart, so I guess it was a learning curve for whomever was making the music decisions in the arena.
This made me smile with pride. I love that we're among the more supportive hockey team fanbases, to the extent that it can catch people off guard.
(But let's make sure that our fanbase remains that supportive -- or even more so -- for the rest of time!)
Quote from: HeafDogQuote from: dbilmesThe director told me this was the first time a visiting team had ever brought a pep band to Sacred Heart, so I guess it was a learning curve for whomever was making the music decisions in the arena.
This made me smile with pride. I love that we're among the more supportive hockey team fanbases, to the extent that it can catch people off guard.
(But let's make sure that our fanbase remains that supportive -- or even more so -- for the rest of time!)
It took three months to get them agree to allow the band at all.... One of the ushers told me that the pumped in music was louder this weekend than normal and he thought they were trying to drown the band out.
Quote from: Chris '03One of the ushers told me that the pumped in music was louder this weekend than normal and he thought they were trying to drown the band out.
WHAT'S THAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THIS EFFING DJ
USA Hockey Poll for the week and Cornell didn't make the top 20 for the first time I can ever remember
That burns
Schafer says a few more injuries to forwards this weekend, nobody coming back soon, might have to dress 9-10 defensemen.
Quote from: chimpfoodSchafer says a few more injuries to forwards this weekend, nobody coming back soon, might have to dress 9-10 defensemen.
Time for some shutouts.
Quote from: chimpfoodSchafer says a few more injuries to forwards this weekend, nobody coming back soon, might have to dress 9-10 defensemen.
Wonder who got hurt?
Anyone know?
Quote from: fastforwardQuote from: chimpfoodSchafer says a few more injuries to forwards this weekend, nobody coming back soon, might have to dress 9-10 defensemen.
Wonder who got hurt?
Anyone know?
I saw Walsh skate off the ice in obvious pain, apparently in his arm, during Saturday night's game. The trainer rushed over to check on him, and he stayed in the game. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up on our Injured List.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: fastforwardQuote from: chimpfoodSchafer says a few more injuries to forwards this weekend, nobody coming back soon, might have to dress 9-10 defensemen.
Wonder who got hurt?
Anyone know?
I saw Walsh skate off the ice in obvious pain, apparently in his arm, during Saturday night's game. The trainer rushed over to check on him, and he stayed in the game. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up on our Injured List.
Thx
Not a good situation, and if there's more than just Walsh it's gone from bad to worse
Quote from: HeafDogQuote from: Chris '03One of the ushers told me that the pumped in music was louder this weekend than normal and he thought they were trying to drown the band out.
WHAT'S THAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THIS EFFING DJ
I had to move our season ticket at RPI this year because of this nonsense. The speakers were aimed straight at us. The prior fieldhouse director lowered the volume at my request a few years ago. The first game he did this he came into the stands to seek me out to make sure he'd done enough for us. The current building manager seems to be part Neanderthal and I finally gave up trying to get him on the phone or SEE HIM IN PERSON WHEN I SHOWED UP DURING THE WEEK. The staff was courteous enough when we scoped out my new seats which are close to being equidistant between the effing speakers.