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Title: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 06:18:46 PM
Hamilton is cold.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 06:26:00 PM
PWR of top ECAC teams right now:

13 Dartmouth
18 Quinnipiac
20 Cornell
25 Clarkson
27 Princeton
32 Union
33 Colgate
39 Brown
42 Harvard

Quinnipiac up on Union late, 3-1.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 06:54:11 PM
Q beats U.

Experimental case in how much one game result changes things:

13 Dartmouth (1 vs Q)
18 Quinnipiac --> 16 (won)
20 Cornell --> 19 (2Q)
25 Clarkson --> 26 (1U)
27 Princeton 1U)
32 Union (lost)
33 Colgate (1U)
39 Brown --> 28 (1Q)
42 Harvard --> 41 (1Q)
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:03:58 PM
This color saturation may cause blindness.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:09:21 PM
Too bad, the ice level feed is actually gorgeous.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:10:12 PM
Nice play by Class of 1965 Rink fan favorite Jack O'Leary.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:11:31 PM
Good work by the camera person keeping the puck entered, too.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:14:33 PM
That Shane save was amazing.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 07:15:46 PM
Definitely appreciate our home announcers a lot more now
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:17:27 PM
I did not realize 9-10-14 is an all NY state line.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:17:43 PM
Quote from: fastforwardDefinitely appreciate our home announcers a lot more now
I think they're not bad.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Scersk '97 on December 07, 2024, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: fastforwardDefinitely appreciate our home announcers a lot more now

This guy certainly has a command of our stats, though!
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI did not realize 9-10-14 is an all NY state line.
Interesting fact to note
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: fastforwardDefinitely appreciate our home announcers a lot more now

This guy certainly has a command of our stats, though!
Yes, have to give him that
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:19:54 PM
PBP dude knows names and is crisp.  And he's told a bunch of backstory stuff that was relevant.

Colgate ad is adorable. "What if a university was really a prep school (and not in New Hampshire)?"
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:22:12 PM
WE'RE SO STATIC!!!!
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:23:25 PM
LOL no call.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 07:26:10 PM
Hopefully Bancroft is ok
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:30:46 PM
Excellent goal there by Kovich.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: fastforwardHopefully Bancroft is ok
He's back.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:32:57 PM
Chechnya?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: arugula on December 07, 2024, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: fastforward
Quote from: TrotskyI did not realize 9-10-14 is an all NY state line.
Interesting fact to note

This is great. In my day there were guys from Ontario and some other guys from Ontario
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 07:40:10 PM
How we looking? Not watching (jinx), we tied, good?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: stereaxHow we looking? Not watching (jinx), we tied, good?
All tied up but the ncaa website has our goal messed up with who was on ice for our goal. I'm sure it will get fixed
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 07:51:41 PM
Quote from: fastforward
Quote from: stereaxHow we looking? Not watching (jinx), we tied, good?
All tied up but the ncaa website has our goal messed up with who was on ice for our goal. I'm sure it will get fixed
Nice. Are we looking good or getting lucky? Are Colgate doing the "garnet glob" again?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: stereaxHow we looking? Not watching (jinx), we tied, good?
Different game from last night.  More free flowing.  Higher tempo.  Shane looked great on several saves and then gave up a goal right off a faceoff where he was either screened or not ready.  Colgate looks more dangerous tonight.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: stereaxAre Colgate doing the "garnet glob" again?
Nope not at all.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:54:19 PM
Oh, the pp looked terrible.  We'll see this  time.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:55:23 PM
That was a nice try. Let's  do more of that.  Penney woulda had it.  :-)
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 07:57:40 PM
Bah.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:09:09 PM
Oh, Ian.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:12:29 PM
The local talent are entertained.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:14:36 PM
This Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 08:22:07 PM
Painful to watch
Too many turnovers, not keeping it in the zone
But on the bright side, just got a PP goal
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:25:01 PM
Needed a weak PP call against Colgate last night to tie the game. Now we have a 3-0 PP disparity and we're still losing. WTF is wrong with this team? Just consistently mediocre the whole season. PP goal was nice, but they STILL cannot set up a one-timer in the slot. It literally never happens.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: marty on December 07, 2024, 08:25:42 PM
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.

It's obvious the coach has given up on them just like some others.  ::rolleyes::

Turn off the game BL.  See you next year.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 08:27:00 PM
Coach should not have told them it was his last season
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.

It's obvious the coach has given up on them just like some others.  Turn off the game BL.  See you next year.
If tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:27:37 PM
Ian Gisiger is exactly like the kid reporter in Shoresy (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KtnLmYkpsZo/sddefault.jpg).  If he's doing that deliberately, respect.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.
Think of all the better ways you can spend your nights.  Break free of this pain.  It's time.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Iceberg on December 07, 2024, 08:34:16 PM
I've been catching glimpses of this game throughout the broadcast, but is it accurate to say that Shane is having an off night? I don't blame him as he's been one of the best players this season but it's really hard to tell given the overall team play
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: IcebergI've been catching glimpses of this game throughout the broadcast, but is it accurate to say that Shane is having an off night? I don't blame him as he's been one of the best players this season but it's really hard to tell given the overall team play
It's hard to tell from the broadcasts whether pucks are getting deflected or he's getting screened. But Shane has been mediocre this season numbers-wise and a lot of goals have gone if off very low-percentage shots.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: IcebergI've been catching glimpses of this game throughout the broadcast, but is it accurate to say that Shane is having an off night? I don't blame him as he's been one of the best players this season but it's really hard to tell given the overall team play
I don't think so.  In the first he looked great.  The second goal off the faceoff was suspect; he may have been asleep, or maybe just screened, we couldn't tell.  The third goal was soft but the man was in front unmarked.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.
Think of all the better ways you can spend your nights.  Break free of this pain.  It's time.
Schafer read the team my posts between periods and it woke the boys up.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:43:27 PM
Cannot proceed
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:45:19 PM
Penalty: 2 minutes for math.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:50:10 PM
Mystery Major.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: pjd8 on December 07, 2024, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIan Gisiger is exactly like the kid reporter in Shoresy (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KtnLmYkpsZo/sddefault.jpg).  If he's doing that deliberately, respect.

My thought exactly.

Though I don't think Colgate is that clever.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:51:16 PM
Mission: survive.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: TimV on December 07, 2024, 08:51:50 PM
Was that one of the Hanson sisters in the white Cornell Jersey near the video review setup?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:51:57 PM
Hold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Big Dingus on December 07, 2024, 08:52:37 PM
This team. I think they really just aren't that good this year
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: arugula on December 07, 2024, 08:52:40 PM
Ondrej!
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?
THEY HAVE A TWO MAN ADVANTAGE FOR WHAT??!
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 08:54:15 PM
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:54:19 PM
Great save by Ian!
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:54:30 PM
Quote from: Big DingusThis team. I think they really just aren't that good this year
You can always watch BC or Denver...
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?
THEY HAVE A TWO MAN ADVANTAGE FOR WHAT??!
Nobody knows.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:54:49 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Big Dingus on December 07, 2024, 08:55:12 PM
I'm a Cornell fan.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?
THEY HAVE A TWO MAN ADVANTAGE FOR WHAT??!
Nobody knows.
:') refs. Looks like we survived 3 on 5.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 08:56:21 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
Fuck. How much time do we have left to get another goal?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
5-3 now as Gate scores again on the major pp. 10:37 remaining game in the third, 1:11 remaining in the gate PP.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
5-3 now as Gate scores again on the major pp.
...Fuck. What was the penalty for again?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 08:58:17 PM
Donaldson has been an absolute disaster. The biggest effect of the injuries has been him being in the lineup.
Getting nothing from the freshmen, Major has some offensive talent but is bad defensively and turns the puck over too much.
No at-large bid this year.
Sad to see Schafer go out like this.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
5-3 now as Gate scores again on the major pp.
...Fuck. What was the penalty for again?
It was never announced and the Gate announcer seemed as perplexed as everyone else.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 08:59:19 PM
At least we have a couple posters who take joy from this.

Gonna be interesting to find out what the call was.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: stereaxHold on are we tied again or not? I just saw Psenicka tie game what's going on rn?

It's 3-3: Gate has a 5x3 with one of the penalties being a major and game misconduct on Donaldson after a review for...something?
Gotcha. So pray, right?
Gate just scored on the major: 4-3 now with 2 mins of pp remaining.
5-3 now as Gate scores again on the major pp.
...Fuck. What was the penalty for again?
It was never announced and the Gate announcer seemed as perplexed as everyone else.
Sigh... c'est la vie ig.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 09:00:15 PM
Quote from: TrotskyAt least we have a couple posters who take joy from this.

Gonna be interesting to find out what the call was.
Actually it seems like you're the one who takes joy from this.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:01:13 PM
Gate PP killed. Psenicka robbed on a hat trick bid all alone in the slot shortly after.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 09:01:52 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again, stupid penalties will be the death of us
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 09:01:58 PM
Extremely soft goals given up tonight. Too bad the backup goalie is even worse.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:02:51 PM
CHN live box score is still not showing the mystery Donaldson major penalty.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: sah67Gate PP killed. Psenicka robbed on a hat trick bid all alone in the slot shortly after.
Don't worry, he'll score three more now and give us the win :D (For the record, this is comedy that I do not seriously believe will happen, this is also how my friends and I survive terrible NHL games.)
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Big Dingus on December 07, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
Extremely disappointing start. Every weekend I always think "this is the weekend" and am constantly let down.

Honestly not really sure where the team goes from here. Seems to have no identity
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:06:29 PM
Get us a goal to get within an extra skater, please.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:08:07 PM
And the refs manage to get even 3-3.  Nice job by Harder working them.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 09:09:45 PM
Another PK???
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:09:51 PM
Gate starting to goon it up now with some cheap shots and the refs swallow their whistles until they decide to give Rego a minor and Catalano a 10 min misconduct. Gate 5x4 pp with 3:20 remaining.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:11:34 PM
Penalty killed, Shane out. 90 seconds left.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:11:52 PM
Great job getting it in front with the extra man, just no good bounce.  Keep fighting.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:13:00 PM
There is still time, folks.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: ER on December 07, 2024, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: sah67CHN live box score is still not showing the mystery Donaldson major penalty.

I see a Kraft 5 min major for boarding. Nothing else
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:14:34 PM
Another very nice look.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: ER
Quote from: sah67CHN live box score is still not showing the mystery Donaldson major penalty.

I see a Kraft 5 min major for boarding. Nothing else

That's gotta be a mistake. There was only one major called (on Donaldson) and it happened earlier than what CHN is showing for Kraft. I think that's meant to be the 10 min misconduct on Catalano.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 09:16:43 PM
6-3 Gate ENG
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: fastforward on December 07, 2024, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: ER
Quote from: sah67CHN live box score is still not showing the mystery Donaldson major penalty.

I see a Kraft 5 min major for boarding. Nothing else
Whoever is running the box score has messed up all night
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 09:18:48 PM
Embarrassing team, depressing season. Donaldson is the goat, obviously, for whatever he did. But also, Colgate is a bad team and shots were even. This Cornell team is just mediocre through and through.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Scersk '97 on December 07, 2024, 09:18:54 PM
Real screw job by the refs there.

I don't understand how it makes sense that a team can get a minor and then go fishing for a major like that and get to keep both.

Probably dumb for Rego to take the 10, but I get it.

But the 6x5. Just about as static as our normal power plays and no urgency to shoot the puck.

Let's hope they can sort it all out over break. Getting Penney back would be great too.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 09:19:47 PM
Well, can't win em all. Get healthy, take finals, get healthy, get some practices in, get healthy, learn how to run a functional powerplay, get healthy, and we'll be back in the New Year to play more hockey :)
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: George64 on December 07, 2024, 09:20:42 PM
I can understand a minor being reviewed for a major, but how did the refs completely miss a major at first?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: LGR14 on December 07, 2024, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: George64I can understand a minor being reviewed for a major, but how did the refs completely miss a major at first?

Unless it was spearing behind the play...
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: ER on December 07, 2024, 09:32:44 PM
It was butt-ending
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: nshapiro on December 07, 2024, 09:34:21 PM
I went back and looked - at 16:48, Donaldson stabs the butt end of his stick into the gut of a colgate player, and there was no stoppage until the other penalty
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: BearLoverEmbarrassing team, depressing season. Donaldson is the goat, obviously, for whatever he did. But also, Colgate is a bad team and shots were even. This Cornell team is just mediocre through and through.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f8/4f/58/f84f581c416262610e16c6edf425e2b7.jpg)
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 09:36:11 PM
Quote from: nshapiroI went back and looked - at 16:48, Donaldson stabs the butt end of his stick into the gut of a colgate player, and there was no stoppage until the other penalty
Quite a way to ruin the entire season.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Dafatone on December 07, 2024, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: TrotskyCannot proceed

Knew we were doomed at that point.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: stereax on December 07, 2024, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: nshapiroI went back and looked - at 16:48, Donaldson stabs the butt end of his stick into the gut of a colgate player, and there was no stoppage until the other penalty
Quite a way to ruin the entire season.
what the fuck?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: ER on December 07, 2024, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: nshapiroI went back and looked - at 16:48, Donaldson stabs the butt end of his stick into the gut of a colgate player, and there was no stoppage until the other penalty

He should be benched for a while. What an asinine penalty to take right after tying up an important game
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Dafatone on December 07, 2024, 09:46:14 PM
At least we scored on the power play, which is evidence against my current theory that our power play is some sort of inexplicable long-form trolling.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: arugula on December 07, 2024, 09:46:57 PM
I'm at the hold steady show in Brooklyn. Saw the score was 3-3 as the opener went on. Thought this is going to be a good night ....
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Tcl123 on December 07, 2024, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.

It's obvious the coach has given up on them just like some others.  Turn off the game BL.  See you next year.
If tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come brandishing your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: scoop85 on December 07, 2024, 10:13:43 PM
Donaldson has long left me perplexed. Came in from the BCHL as a finalist for that league's MVP award, and then had a solid freshman year until (as I recall) he got hurt. Last year he was scratched most of the time, and this year, when he's been given the opportunity due to injuries, just hasn't been effective.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLoverThis Cornell team just doesn't have it. They suck. It's hard to explain.

It's obvious the coach has given up on them just like some others.  Turn off the game BL.  See you next year.
If tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 07, 2024, 10:38:06 PM
The CHN  box does indeed say "butt ending."
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 10:46:03 PM
Wild quotes from Schafer in this article: https://cornellsun.com/2024/12/07/third-period-controversy-costs-no-12-mens-hockey-against-colgate/

"Our kid says he didn't butt-end him — he [said] he jammed his hand into his stomach"
Would this be legal even if it were true? Is jamming your hand into an opponent's stomach such that he falls to the ice not a penalty?

"I don't know whether to believe him or not, it's kind of inconsequential but you've got to believe your players. They're like your own kids, right?"
This is the least confident statement I've ever heard in my life.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Dafatone on December 07, 2024, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: BearLoverWild quotes from Schafer in this article: https://cornellsun.com/2024/12/07/third-period-controversy-costs-no-12-mens-hockey-against-colgate/

"Our kid says he didn't butt-end him — he [said] he jammed his hand into his stomach"
Would this be legal even if it were true? Is jamming your hand into an opponent's stomach such that he falls to the ice not a penalty?

"I don't know whether to believe him or not, it's kind of inconsequential but you've got to believe your players. They're like your own kids, right?"
This is the least confident statement I've ever heard in my life.

It might not be a major.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: sah67 on December 07, 2024, 10:55:50 PM
Butt-ending...so hot right now: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20241207/uni/qui/
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2024, 11:03:30 PM
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLoverWild quotes from Schafer in this article: https://cornellsun.com/2024/12/07/third-period-controversy-costs-no-12-mens-hockey-against-colgate/

"Our kid says he didn't butt-end him — he [said] he jammed his hand into his stomach"
Would this be legal even if it were true? Is jamming your hand into an opponent's stomach such that he falls to the ice not a penalty?

"I don't know whether to believe him or not, it's kind of inconsequential but you've got to believe your players. They're like your own kids, right?"
This is the least confident statement I've ever heard in my life.

It might not be a major.
Yeah, I was wondering that. Even still, though, saying "he says he merely punched him in the chest, which is only worthy of a minor penalty. I don't know whether to believe him, but he's like my child and a parent always believes his child" does not inspire confidence...
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: chimpfood on December 08, 2024, 12:20:16 AM
Wow today would have been completely shitty if I wasn't with my friends for it. A bad loss, super long drives because of the snow and every single colgate student we interacted with was a complete douchebag. Not that I think that's representative of all their students but it sure didn't make the loss feel any better. Last year Schaf was pissed going into winter break off a Colgate game and we played better second half, have to hope that's coming again this year.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: ithacat on December 08, 2024, 01:05:58 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLoverIf tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.

It's possible that Ben didn't want the job.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: jts15 on December 09, 2024, 08:54:52 AM
Video of Donaldson penalty.
https://x.com/Pint_o_wisdom/status/1865582419321012343
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Trotsky on December 09, 2024, 08:57:39 AM
I don't always try to cripple an opponent with a cheap shot.  But when I do, I choose to be within 6 feet of an official with unencumbered line of sight.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: arugula on December 09, 2024, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: TrotskyI don't always try to cripple an opponent with a cheap shot.  But when I do, I choose to be within 6 feet of an official with unencumbered line of sight.

And yet the Official's arm stayed down
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Will on December 09, 2024, 12:10:17 PM
I decided to make the trek to Hamilton for this game, through the hazardous road conditions.  This was my 11 year old daughter's first away game, and my first proper away game in...I'm not sure, but I'm guessing well over 11 years.  Despite the lousy weather, the crappy game result, and the plethora of asshole Colgate student fans in attendance, at least they didn't throw pizza at us.  A minor silver lining, but a silver lining nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: upprdeck on December 09, 2024, 01:06:24 PM
We have seen head shots get reviewed. And from that angle what he did is unclear other than the guy went down. Could have pulled his pants for all that shows.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Swampy on December 09, 2024, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: upprdeckWe have seen head shots get reviewed. And from that angle what he did is unclear other than the guy went down. Could have pulled his pants for all that shows.

According to Schafer, Donaldson claims he hit the Colgate player with his fist, not the end of his stick. I don't know what the rule is, but the Colgate player was in the crease.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: chimpfood on December 09, 2024, 02:17:42 PM
Quote from: WillI decided to make the trek to Hamilton for this game, through the hazardous road conditions.  This was my 11 year old daughter's first away game, and my first proper away game in...I'm not sure, but I'm guessing well over 11 years.  Despite the lousy weather, the crappy game result, and the plethora of asshole Colgate student fans in attendance, at least they didn't throw pizza at us.  A minor silver lining, but a silver lining nonetheless.
I also had a bad experience with the Colgate fans and I was surprised because I've been to a couple other games there and never had anything like that. It's not the behavior that I would expect from a small liberal arts school anyway, it's especially weird because the vast majority aren't actually big fans because every other home game they have is completely devoid of students
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: George64 on December 09, 2024, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: TrotskyI don't always try to cripple an opponent with a cheap shot.  But when I do, I choose to be within 6 feet of an official with unencumbered line of sight.

And yet the Official's arm stayed down

Puzzling, as he had a much better view than this camera angle.  But than again, it's not the only penalty that the refs missed.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: abmarks on December 09, 2024, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: TrotskyI don't always try to cripple an opponent with a cheap shot.  But when I do, I choose to be within 6 feet of an official with unencumbered line of sight.

And yet the Official's arm stayed down

Don't think the official even saw it.   Look at his body alignment; he was looking straight up to the blueline, not at the front of the net
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: abmarks on December 09, 2024, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: upprdeckWe have seen head shots get reviewed. And from that angle what he did is unclear other than the guy went down. Could have pulled his pants for all that shows.

It's actually very clear.  Watch it at the .25x speed option.  

He actually winds up first!  

Look at both of his hands on the stick and how they move together.  First they move slowly upwards, then his right foot lifts and pulls back (much like a baseball batter about to swing, except the foot goes a bit backwards from  the rotational force he's trying to get.).  You can also see his left skate staying strong in the ice as he's pushing off of it as a base, and then once the weight transfer starts the hands move sharply down and into the opponent.

Donaldson saying it was his fist or glove is being too cute by half.

For whoever mentioned the other guy being in the crease, he wasn't. At most one blade barely touches the crease outline before he gets whacked.  And even if he was in the crease it's not like they defunded the refs and made the crease a lawless free-for-all.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: chimpfood on December 09, 2024, 04:50:08 PM
Yeah I don't know if there are any other US soccer fans in here but that Donaldson play reminded me of the Tim weah punch in the copa America this summer. I thought Tim weah should be left off the national team roster until after the 2026 World Cup. Since this game was much less high stakes than that one I think a few weeks of getting scratched would teach Donaldson his lesson and I do believe that Schafer has enough of a spine to actually do that. But after those couple weeks who knows if he can work his way back in if we have guys return from injury.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 09, 2024, 07:07:12 PM
Quote from: sah67the refs swallow their whistles until they decide to give Rego a minor and Catalano a 10 min misconduct. Gate 5x4 pp with 3:20 remaining.

Why was Catalano in the box?  Shouldn't he have been sent out with less than ten minutes in the game even with a full OT?  There was definitely failure to communicate some of those penalties over the PA.  After they didn't say much for the Donaldson penalty I saw the PA announcer get a phone call which I assume was from the broadcast booth looking for clarification.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 09, 2024, 07:25:55 PM
The final minutes of the second and the early portion of the third they had definitely found their game.  They were winning the battles that they had lost all night.  They were finally taking it to them.  It stinks that they looked quite good during the 5x3 and then collapsed during the 5x4.  I thought that was a really tough spot to throw Koepple out there.  Hasn't played in a while plus Colgate was still on the PP.  That building has been a little bit of a house of horrors for Shane.  Two seasons ago he also got pulled after he gave up three quick ones.  They lost that one in a shootout.  They were getting outhit by a pretty good clip all night.  Pretty rough finish to the fall semester.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: The Rancor on December 09, 2024, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLoverIf tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.

It's possible that Ben didn't want the job.

Exactly.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: dbilmes on December 10, 2024, 09:35:45 AM
The biggest contributing factor to our disappointing first part of the season -- besides injuries -- has been our specialty teams. Our power play, which has been better as of late, still ranks 52nd in the country, while our penalty kill ranks 54th. We easily could have won a few more games with better results from those units.
We also haven't received consistently elite goaltending from Shane. His GAA is a respectable 2.26, but his save percentage is .896. His save percentages the previous three seasons were .923, .916 and .933.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Iceberg on December 10, 2024, 01:07:53 PM
Quote from: dbilmesThe biggest contributing factor to our disappointing first part of the season -- besides injuries -- has been our specialty teams. Our power play, which has been better as of late, still ranks 52nd in the country, while our penalty kill ranks 54th. We easily could have won a few more games with better results from those units.
We also haven't received consistently elite goaltending from Shane. His GAA is a respectable 2.26, but his save percentage is .896. His save percentages the previous three seasons were .923, .916 and .933.

Hard to have elite goaltending when the PK is bad and the team keeps turning over or giving away the puck in dangerous areas of the ice. The GAA and save percentage together suggest less of a goaltending issue and more of a defensive issue, which is consistent with what I've seen this season so far
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: BearLover on December 15, 2024, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLoverIf tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.

It's possible that Ben didn't want the job.

Exactly.
Unless you have some inside information, this seems wildly unlikely. Ben and his wife both worked for Cornell, his daughters went to school here. His hockey team had amazing success with the players HE recruited. Why would he uproot all of that to instead coach a perennial doormat?
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Tcl123 on December 15, 2024, 08:55:22 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLoverIf tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.

It's possible that Ben didn't want the job.

Exactly.
Unless you have some inside information, this seems wildly unlikely. Ben and his wife both worked for Cornell, his daughters went to school here. His hockey team had amazing success with the players HE recruited. Why would he uproot all of that to instead coach a perennial doormat?

I'd rather date Rosie O'Donnell over Heidi Klum as well.
Title: Re: 2024-12-07 at Colgate
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 16, 2024, 12:08:58 PM
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: BearLoverIf tonight's results hold, Princeton will have a higher PWR than Cornell. Wonder why we didn't just hand the program over to Syer.

I honestly thought the same thing after he left for Princeton. Hope I'm wrong, but think we messed up on that. And before u come branding your pitch forks, I'm sure mikes retirement had been brought up between the two long before this season. Unless Mike saw something he didn't like or didn't think he had what it takes to do the job, I don't get it.
That's the only explanation. It's still early obviously, but it's looking like a massive miscalculation.

It's possible that Ben didn't want the job.

Exactly.
Unless you have some inside information, this seems wildly unlikely. Ben and his wife both worked for Cornell, his daughters went to school here. His hockey team had amazing success with the players HE recruited. Why would he uproot all of that to instead coach a perennial doormat?

I'd rather date Rosie O'Donnell over Heidi Klum as well.

Well, if we're placing orders I'd prefer Gal Gadot.