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A little early to be looking ahead but I'm overeager for this series. Coming into the series 3-2, North Dakota seems like your typical NCHC powerhouse, a great offense that they use to cover up what honestly seems like a pretty poor defense. Their powerplay has been unbelievable so far, above 45% on the season, the highest in the nation. Their penalty kill has been very weak though at just 75%. Still I would not want to see us get into a scrappy game with tons of penalties against them because I don't trust our powerplay enough yet. They are going to be a very skilled team so I'd love to see us lean into our reputation of a big, physical, defensively strong team (but it might be hard to do that while staying away from penalties).

Their goalie situation is up in the air with their newest rental goalie TJ semptimphelter having been disappointing so far. Semptimphelter should be a familiar name because we faced him 3 times last year when he was on ASU and we did progressively better against him each game. The backup Hobie Hedquist has only played one game this year and didn't get many reps last year but he had a good game against Mankato but came away with the loss. I would guess that they split the series between the goalies, Semp on Friday and Hedquist on Saturday. Hopefully we can solve Semp like we did in our last game against him when we chased him in the second period after 3 goals and just 10 saves.

It has already been an up and down season for Nodak as they started with a 4-1 exhibition loss to Augusta. They then turned around to beat providence 5-2. The next weekend they split with Mankato before a 7-2 win over BU but they lost on Saturday. As you can tell by their schedule and their NCHC membership they are going to be much more comfortable big games and close games than us. As for expectations for the series I would say that I would be disappointed with a sweep, fine as long as we get a tie, happy with a split, and ecstatic with a sweep. My prediction is a 6-3 win on Friday as our guys hopefully know how to solve semptimphelter by now, and a 5-3 loss on Saturday. Let's go red!

Great preview, thank you. I'm happy to read that their goaltending has been shaky. The seems like one of the most likely ways for us to win. Between having zero games under our belt, us having significantly less talent, and us already having major injuries, I think we are going to need to be lucky or steal it with better goaltending. Like you, I would be disappointed with a ND sweep, satisfied with a split, and ecstatic with a Cornell sweep.

I can't believe there's still a few hundred seats left for Friday and Saturday both.

Quote from: arugulaI can't believe there's still a few hundred seats left for Friday and Saturday both.

Hotel prices are ridiculous and could be a factor

Yes.  I reserved way early and was high.  We're coming anyway to visit the daughter so its a cost of doing business for us.

For most games how many people do we think come it from out of town vs just being locals?


I think its mostly because its still warm outside and people dont know hockey has started around here.

its not like the school promotes it in any way.

Quote from: upprdeckFor most games how many people do we think come it from out of town vs just being locals?


I think its mostly because its still warm outside and people dont know hockey has started around here.

its not like the school promotes it in any way.

I would think that many players families on both teams travel
At least that's the impression I have
We do have a large local draw as well

Last year after Harvard -Dartmouth, we were in the next booth from Castagna and parents having breakfast.  So players families definitely come particularly if relatively close.

Nodak fans are supposed to travel really well too.

They travel to big events. Do they want to travel to upstate NY though?

Other than Clarkson and few playoff games, how many fans ever travel to Lynah?

if all the players families came to a game we are talking 20-30 people.

Quote from: upprdeckThey travel to big events. Do they want to travel to upstate NY though?

looking at orbitz, flying in thursday and leaving sunday, it's $1500 from Fargo to Ithaca RT, obviously not direct and with significant layovers. Flying to Syracuse is still around $1000 and you have to drive almost 50 miles. I don't know how popular a trip like that is.

If UND came to MSG I think people make a weekend out of it if they aren't scared of midtown when they can't open carry.

Quote from: BearLoverBetween having zero games under our belt, us having significantly less talent, and us already having major injuries, I think we are going to need to be lucky or steal it with better goaltending. Like you, I would be disappointed with a ND sweep, satisfied with a split, and ecstatic with a Cornell sweep.

While NoDak is more "talented" on paper, I don't believe that the difference is "significant".

Quote from: chimp-foodNodak fans are supposed to travel really well too.

I'll be driving down from Rochester with a friend and his son who went to North Dakota, so the Fighting Hawks will have at least two fans.  I was in grad school in 1967, so I saw us beat the Fighting Sioux (1-0) at the Syracuse War Memorial Auditorium in our penultimate win in a very memorable season.
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Quote from: upprdeckThey travel to big events. Do they want to travel to upstate NY though?

Other than Clarkson and few playoff games, how many fans ever travel to Lynah?

if all the players families came to a game we are talking 20-30 people.

We were in Rochester to see an RIT game last weekend, woke up at the something something Marriott in Victor, and half the car license plates read Ontario. There was a girls tournament and it looked like a lot of parents drove rather than put the kids on a bus. But I think we know a lot of American sports parents who buy Suburbans and put on 25,000-plus yearly miles.

Quote from: upprdeckThey travel to big events. Do they want to travel to upstate NY though?

Other than Clarkson and few playoff games, how many fans ever travel to Lynah?

if all the players families came to a game we are talking 20-30 people.

I know a fan who travels 5 weekends a year from Boston to Lynah.  I used to as well; I'll be driving up this weekend from DC.  We know fans who have been coming from Elmira or Binghamton to every home game, even weekdays, for 40 years.  I think that's the general circle of out-of-town fans who come regularly.  Always a buncha PA plates in the parking lot, too, since it's an easy climb up 81 from Scranton.  A bunch of parents of players who have long graduated come down from Ontario as do former players and their families.  It starts to add up.

If the amount of available seats is anything close to what it is now by game day I'm going to be hugely disappointed. We've been waiting for this series for four years and it's a top 10 matchup that lynah hasn't hosted any thing like in a long time. As a student I have seen literally no advertising for the game. We have no reason not to sell this weekend out.

Quote from: chimpfoodIf the amount of available seats is anything close to what it is now by game day I'm going to be hugely disappointed. We've been waiting for this series for four years and it's a top 10 matchup that lynah hasn't hosted any thing like in a long time. As a student I have seen literally no advertising for the game. We have no reason not to sell this weekend out.

Get out the Vote (so to speak)

Quote from: chimpfoodIf the amount of available seats is anything close to what it is now by game day I'm going to be hugely disappointed. We've been waiting for this series for four years and it's a top 10 matchup that lynah hasn't hosted any thing like in a long time. As a student I have seen literally no advertising for the game. We have no reason not to sell this weekend out.

I don't know if the super-casual student fans--the ones who don't pay attention to the college hockey world beyond when they get to throw fish at Harvard--are really aware that North Dakota is a really good team most years, so the weekend is bound to be exciting.  So it's up to other, more knowledgeable student fans to get the word out.

Doesn't the sun pump this stuff up?  Or do they wait until Thursday to start the weekend stories...?

Quote from: abmarksDoesn't the sun pump this stuff up?  Or do they wait until Thursday to start the weekend stories...?

Thursday's when they run their porn stories so I'm not sure if they have room for sports

Quote from: abmarksDoesn't the sun pump this stuff up?  Or do they wait until Thursday to start the weekend stories...?

is the print edition still daily? i feel like it stopped coming out every day at some point but i don't remember where i got this idea.

I'm coming from Florida!

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On Thursday?

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Quote from: abmarksDoesn't the sun pump this stuff up?  Or do they wait until Thursday to start the weekend stories...?

is the print edition still daily? i feel like it stopped coming out every day at some point but i don't remember where i got this idea.

For a number of years now the print edition is only 2/3 days a week.

Quote from: upprdeckFor most games how many people do we think come it from out of town vs just being locals?


I think its mostly because its still warm outside and people dont know hockey has started around here.

its not like the school promotes it in any way.

We aren't able to travel meaningfully yet due to my knee replacement surgery last month, but be assured two asses will be in our two seats nonetheless. Just not ours.

Quote from: scoop85Thursday's when they run their porn stories

I hope the demo has changed since we were there.

Friday night's North Dakota game will be televised on SNY as well as on ESPN Plus.

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Quote from: upprdeckThey travel to big events. Do they want to travel to upstate NY though?

looking at orbitz, flying in thursday and leaving sunday, it's $1500 from Fargo to Ithaca RT, obviously not direct and with significant layovers. Flying to Syracuse is still around $1000 and you have to drive almost 50 miles. I don't know how popular a trip like that is.

If UND came to MSG I think people make a weekend out of it if they aren't scared of midtown when they can't open carry.

I have to imagine that 50 miles for anyone from a Dakota is like a run to the corner store.

From our visits to Grand Forks, there's a number who think the entire state of NY is all skyscrapers, traffic, subways, and depending on their news network of choice, DANGER DRUGS AND CRIME EVERYWHERE FOREVER.

NoDak travels VERY well.  It's going to be a great road crowd and I look forward to it.  Everyone should see Lynah.

Yes! Just arrived. At Homewood Suites. Overpriced!

When I set my DVR to record tonight's game on SNY, our opponent's logo presented as "North Dakota State University"

Quote from: scoop85When I set my DVR to record tonight's game on SNY, our opponent's logo presented as "North Dakota State University"

The Skating Ralphies (https://aistm.org/engelstad.htm).

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2CC4BBA/retro-photo-of-a-canadian-womens-ice-hockey-team-from-edmonton-with-a-swastika-sign-on-their-sweaters-1916-2CC4BBA.jpg)

Quotefined $1.5 million by the Nevada Gaming Control Board for damaging the reputation of the state

That is a high bar.

Quote from: scoop85When I set my DVR to record tonight's game on SNY, our opponent's logo presented as "North Dakota State University"

For the series in 2008 at The Ralph, the tickets read "North Dakota Fighting Sioux vs. Cornell Bears"

Sorry, no Nazi bear imagery available.

Edit: Nazi-fighting bear more appropriate.  Meet Wojtek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear)):

(https://i.imgur.com/8Mnal26.png)

QuoteWojtek (1942 – 2 December 1963; in English, sometimes phonetically spelled Voytek) was a Syrian brown bear (Ursus arctos syriacus) adopted by soldiers of the 2nd Polish Corps during World War II. As a young cub, his mother was shot by hunters, and he was found in the mountains of Iran by a young boy. The boy then sold him to a group of Polish soldiers who were in the country after being evacuated from the Soviet Union. In order to provide for his rations and transportation, he was eventually enlisted officially as a soldier with the rank of private, and was subsequently promoted to corporal.

On an entirely unrelated topic, everyone please vote.

Not much love from USCHO on our chances this weekend.

UND hockey podcast spent second half of the most recent episode previewing the series: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey-central

Quote from: Chris '03UND hockey podcast spent second half of the most recent episode previewing the series: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey-central

kind words but if you thought watching paint dry was dull, close your eyes and let the sound wash over you

Great start, but so many empty seats.

Student section looks pretty full.

Quote from: DafatoneStudent section looks pretty full.

section o sucks

catalano with the deflection out in front that we always beg for to go up 2-1

I guess the sections behind our goal have a bunch of space in them.

Man Robertson is fun go watch.

Quote from: DafatoneMan Robertson is fun to watch.

Charlie Major is going to be a problem for the ECAC.

3-1 on a slapper from Wolfenberg and Semptimphelter gets the hook.

So far i think NoDak had some individual players with incredible speed but we are more cohesive and grittier.

Und looks disorganized but fast.  The place is disappoingly empty.  Daughter says lots of parties tonight.  Goal aside, wolfenberg looks very good.  Major too.

Also prelims this week.

Time to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

And everyone shows up late....

Quote from: arugulaUnd looks disorganized but fast.  The place is disappoingly empty.  Daughter says lots of parties tonight.  Goal aside, wolfenberg looks very good.  Major too.

I always found it weird to have any such parties in November. Last weekend was ample time and that's what most sensible people did. Even yesterday would be understandable.

On topic, UND's defense looks disorganized and suspect. That was a good 1st period

Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

What party starts before 10 pm anyways?

The crowd looks full now to me.

Except section A, which is empty?

I know they're probably spelled differently, as I am listening to the radio webcast, but it's very distracting they have players named "weeb" and "schmaltz".

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

Don't get mad it's facts.

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

Aware of the football schedule, but lamenting we couldn't put on a full house show at Lynah or a visiting team with a strong fan base.

Amazing game, great defensive hockey after the first period.

Sections d e and f were empty. Why wasn't there a handshake line?

Also stop grousing about the crowd for gods sake, we just beat a top ten team by three and home. Besides it was plenty loud enough even if it wasn't totally packed.

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

That makes sense. Can I complain about football getting top billing over hockey for band?

Quote from: arugulaSections d e and f were empty. Why wasn't there a handshake line?

I believe for a 2-game series they save the handshake line for after the 2nd game.

no handshake until series is over normally

Good first period

Sluggish 2nd

Better 3rd

I thought they got a bit tired, which is expected.

still the better team for most of the game

Tomorrow will be a tougher effort

Number 2 in the pairwise.....

Few things I enjoy more than having dinner with dss28 and our toddler Isaac, then reading him a book before bed, so I can't say as I'm too terribly disappointed to have missed the first period as a result, even with all of the non-ENG scoring having happened within. That said, what a great way to start the season! NoDak won't be as easy tomorrow; they will surely test the refs' limits in trying to shut us down now that they've had a taste of what's possible. Gonna enjoy this W for the next twenty hours and then it's back to business.

The refs did a poor job of keeping the game under control.  Ignored penalties early and that led to too many scrums later.

Quote from: BeeeejFew things I enjoy more than having dinner with dss28 and our toddler Isaac, then reading him a book before bed, so I can't say as I'm too terribly disappointed to have missed the first period as a result, even with all of the non-ENG scoring having happened within. That said, what a great way to start the season! NoDak won't be as easy tomorrow; they will surely test the refs' limits in trying to shut us down now that they've had a taste of what's possible. Gonna enjoy this W for the next twenty hours and then it's back to business.

and since it was on espn+ you can watch the first period anyway. you know how citizen kane ends too.

as for tomorrow i think nodak is going to try more intimidating goon shit for all that it was effective today.

The Sun makes the point that NoDak was missing their leading scorer.  https://cornellsun.com/2024/11/01/no-9-mens-hockey-hands-no-6-north-dakota-4-1-defeat-in-season-debut/
There were others out, too.  https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/11/1/mens-hockey-no-9-8-cornell-rides-strong-start-to-4-1-win-over-no-6-7-north-dakota.aspx

Quote from: David HardingThe Sun makes the point that NoDak was missing their leading scorer.  https://cornellsun.com/2024/11/01/no-9-mens-hockey-hands-no-6-north-dakota-4-1-defeat-in-season-debut/
There were others out, too.  https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/11/1/mens-hockey-no-9-8-cornell-rides-strong-start-to-4-1-win-over-no-6-7-north-dakota.aspx

Meh, we have a buncha guys out too. Doubt Berg would've had a hat trick to get them the win tonight.

Quote from: David HardingThe Sun makes the point that NoDak was missing their leading scorer.  https://cornellsun.com/2024/11/01/no-9-mens-hockey-hands-no-6-north-dakota-4-1-defeat-in-season-debut/
There were others out, too.  https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/11/1/mens-hockey-no-9-8-cornell-rides-strong-start-to-4-1-win-over-no-6-7-north-dakota.aspx

PWR doesn't give even a quarter of a shit.

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Absolutely I just laughed out loud at this brewpub

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

Aware of the football schedule, but lamenting we couldn't put on a full house show at Lynah or a visiting team with a strong fan base.

Yeah, I hear you. Look, apparently it's summer-ish temps still, and the campus is still buzzing with other social stuff for the moderate fans. This weekend always gets moderate crowds. Honestly, I was pleased by the look. Only G looked 2/3 full on TV. I was more disappointed by the silence in the last 5 minutes. MAKE NOISE!

As for the band, Marching Band pays the bills and is a commitment for much of the talent. Don't think there haven't been generations of bandies willing to do a Friday at Lynah - overnight travel to football - back to Ithaca for Saturday at Lynah weekend. For no real recognition. It's a small number, but there are people that dedicated and interested.

Section A/Section E attendance has been pretty awful for years at this point. I wish some portion of the band could attend all hockey games. It's a lot more exciting with them in attendance.

Agreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

Yeah, but maybe now we can get rid of that fucking COR 1 - BU 2 score from two years ago.

Berg hasn't played in 5 games. They beat BU 7-2 without him

UND lost a few guys during the game last night and already had some guys out. They're hobbled by injuries

As did I as I typed that.

Get off my lawn

Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

Get off my lawn.

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Absolutely I just laughed out loud at this brewpub

As did I when I typed that.

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

That makes sense. Can I complain about football getting top billing over hockey for band?

"Back in my day," the pep band would've headed down to Princeton overnight and then left after halftime to make it back for the second period. "Kids these days!"

But whatever. I'm glad they pulled together whatever they could. Any game without piped-in music is a win.

Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

While it's difficult to tell on a telecast, it seemed to me the place was lacking the type of energy you might expect for the opener against a top-flight opponent.

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

That makes sense. Can I complain about football getting top billing over hockey for band?

"Back in my day," the pep band would've headed down to Princeton overnight and then left after halftime to make it back for the second period. "Kids these days!"

But whatever. I'm glad they pulled together whatever they could. Any game without piped-in music is a win.

I think piped in music would have been preferable to silence (though far worse than band music). It's important to keep the casual fans coming back.

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Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

While it's difficult to tell on a telecast, it seemed to me the place was lacking the type of energy you might expect for the opener against a top-flight opponent.

Not sure the casual fan understands what a game in Lynah with NoDak means, sadly enough. And college students will make their own choices. I would've been pretty fired up for a game like this, but I'm not sure anyone outside that day-and-age's pep band--even other bandies--would've been similarly engaged. But everyone gets fired up for the Harvard game, and many used to get fired up for the Clarkson and Vermont games, because they were, along with Harvard, the class of the league at that time.

The Town sections were definitely full.

Even when Cornell got beat up the ice by the speed, they were still able to get back into the play.  The most obvious was Walsh diving to thwart the two on one.  O'Leary had one back check where he stripped someone at their blue line and took it the other way.  There was a strip in the third that I think involved a Mack chance but I don't remember the details. They had a nice approach early just getting shots toward the net without being too cute.  It wasn't until later where I saw a few unnecessary drop passes that went right to a defender.  Really nice start.  Shane probably their best player.

Quote from: BearLoverI think piped in music would have been preferable to silence (though far worse than band music). It's important to keep the casual fans coming back.

We obviously agree, but I'll quibble: this notion of "the casual fans love" [whatever thing] is part of what peeves me about every sporting event these days. I think a lot of the dross prevents converting casual fans into serious fans, and I don't think anyone really gets that right now. So it's QU-style wall-to-wall "entertainment" everywhere.

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Quote from: Big DingusTime to accept that Cornell hockey is dead.

No one watches anymore, all on social media.

Even with Halloweekend and other activities, the surprising number of empty seats and tiny pep band is tough to see for a high caliber game and when ND traveled well.

Marching band is on the road, you doofuses.

That makes sense. Can I complain about football getting top billing over hockey for band?

"Back in my day," the pep band would've headed down to Princeton overnight and then left after halftime to make it back for the second period. "Kids these days!"

But whatever. I'm glad they pulled together whatever they could. Any game without piped-in music is a win.

For those wanting a more robust pep band on an away football weekend:

You'd need athletics to ask the marching band to  help make that happen in advance. Independent as it is, the brb reports to the athletic department.  Also, as said above, the vast majority of pep bandies are in the marching band.  And if you're in the marching band, you've made a commitment.

Performance wise, The marching band really needs to plan in advance when they know someone will not be able to perform a halftime show.   It's not just plug and play when it comes down to the choreography on field.

Simply speaking, each group of moving pieces is a rank.   There's a rank leader and asst rank leader.   When the rank shifts formation, the rank leader is responsible for leading that move, following the proper path and ending in the right place.  The player at the other end of the rank (iirc that'd.have been the asst rank leader) makes sure that the tail of the rank ends up properly positioned as well...and the players in between need to properly space between the front and back.

It's not a huge deal if you lose one of the players in the middle, but if a rank leader or asst rank leader isn't going to be there, it's not something you can easily substitute on the fly.  Whoever is next in line has to learn those cues and moves etc...and generally speaking, the next one line isn't having to learn that the move ends with the rank on the 41 yard line, 5 steps to the right of the hash, and aligned at 45 degrees to the tuna section.

That's a bit simplified, as there are exceptions, but while anyone knowing the music, or anyone who can sight read decently, could fill  in during  a pep band performance, it's at minimum a disruption, and possibly a major disruption, to take players away from a marching band halftime show.

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Students have plenty of work to do but the townie sections definitely were not full. There are so many factors that contribute to lower student turnout (parties, more stuff to do with better technology, playing schools that half the students have never heard of) but I think the most important is that nobody comes alone. I imagine that back in the days when most of you were students, people came to the hockey games to find friends,  now nobody comes without friends. This isn't just true true for hockey but for almost everything, think of parties where people pregame before and go together so they never have to be alone. I think it's terrible for society overall but it's definitely bad for the crowds at lynah.

I wish the lunatics board would spend more energy on the hockey and less on the fact that the non-lunatics aren't lunatics.

As for the band, appreciate the insight @abmarks. I wonder if "play halftime and take off back to campus" is something a couple of vans of hockey-first pep bandies would be allowed to do if they wanted to (or if it would implicate school liability or something). But other than a yes or no on the permission question, I imply no judgment.

Great highight package (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImm-TbT7m8). Includes Walsh breaking up the 2on1 and saves from Shane and Hedquist.

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Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

While it's difficult to tell on a telecast, it seemed to me the place was lacking the type of energy you might expect for the opener against a top-flight opponent.

Not sure the casual fan understands what a game in Lynah with NoDak means, sadly enough. And college students will make their own choices. I would've been pretty fired up for a game like this, but I'm not sure anyone outside that day-and-age's pep band--even other bandies--would've been similarly engaged. But everyone gets fired up for the Harvard game, and many used to get fired up for the Clarkson and Vermont games, because they were, along with Harvard, the class of the league at that time.

The Town sections were definitely full.

Exactly.  I'm talking to my daughter's friend, they had no clue the significance of North Dakota. Town side was good.

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Quote from: Big DingusAgreed.

Crowd has never been the same since the 70s. Can hear a pin drop at Lynah these days.

While it's difficult to tell on a telecast, it seemed to me the place was lacking the type of energy you might expect for the opener against a top-flight opponent.

Not sure the casual fan understands what a game in Lynah with NoDak means, sadly enough. And college students will make their own choices. I would've been pretty fired up for a game like this, but I'm not sure anyone outside that day-and-age's pep band--even other bandies--would've been similarly engaged. But everyone gets fired up for the Harvard game, and many used to get fired up for the Clarkson and Vermont games, because they were, along with Harvard, the class of the league at that time.

The Town sections were definitely full.

Exactly.  I'm talking to my daughter's friend, they had no clue the significance of North Dakota. Town side was good.

Good but not full. We were in L and had our feet on the row in front.

People in Greek life are mostly pregaming/partying on Friday and Saturday nights. In my experience a high proportion of students who purchase season tickets are freshmen. Many of these students joins frats/sororities and don't buy season tickets in future seasons. If you're a girl who wants to get ready to go out or a guy whose frat is throwing a party that night, you can't really attend a game that night.

To be clear, none of the above describes my own experience at Cornell (or the experience of most on the forum, probably). But I do think that's part of what's going on. Unlike at a football or basketball school where social life during football/basketball season revolves around the school's biggest sport, at Cornell social life conflicts with the school's biggest sport (hockey).

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Berg has played in 5 games. It says so on all the stats websites, such as this one:
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=217242

Is your point that he left the BU game early with an injury?

Quote from: ugarteI wish the lunatics board would spend more energy on the hockey and less on the fact that the non-lunatics aren't lunatics.

As for the band, appreciate the insight @abmarks. I wonder if "play halftime and take off back to campus" is something a couple of vans of hockey-first pep bandies would be allowed to do if they wanted to (or if it would implicate school liability or something). But other than a yes or no on the permission question, I imply no judgment.

It's telling of just how good we've been lately that we just beat UND to open the season and even looked on par with them and nobody here is losing their shit.

Quote from: ugarteI wish the lunatics board would spend more energy on the hockey and less on the fact that the non-lunatics aren't lunatics.

As for the band, appreciate the insight @abmarks. I wonder if "play halftime and take off back to campus" is something a couple of vans of hockey-first pep bandies would be allowed to do if they wanted to (or if it would implicate school liability or something). But other than a yes or no on the permission question, I imply no judgment.

The university would not allow self driving by band members.

When I was a student we did split trips a few times to ensure coverage. I remember leaving a Princeton football game at halftime to make it back to campus for an exhibition hockey game even. But the band traveled with four buses then and one would take the pep band and leave the remaining three for the rest of football. I think the band runs only three buses now, which is among the complicating factors.

To anticipate the future wringing of hands, the last home football game conflicts with Lynah east this year so the students are not going to hockey. Alumni are planning to cover it.

oof. that video board is so distracting.

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Would also be nice if whomever is in charge of that could avoid playing their crap over the cowbell, which is that they did last night in period 3.

Quote from: DafatoneIt's telling of just how good we've been lately that we just beat UND to open the season and even looked on par with them and nobody here is losing their shit.

And Schafer, in his typical fashion, was all over them for their neutral zone turnovers in his postgame interview. Ah, love ya coach.

No penalty on the linesman for overly aggressive wrestling?

What an atrocious period by the entire team.

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Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Nodak players are probably also just much faster on average. Also, Cornell can't handle the pressure while on the PP and Shane gave up way too juicy of a rebound on the third Nodak goal. If you want to stop Cornell from scoring on the PP, simply aggressively pursue the puck carrier. Been this way for years.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

But hey, tie game!

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you're right

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you're right

Looks like O'Brien lining up on offense in place of Psenicka. I wish the announcers paid a bit closer attention

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat an atrocious period by the entire team.

Their lack of legs to start the season is showing. Getting beat and chasing the play all over the place. They had the benefit for TV timeouts last night but not tonight.

Add in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

Jeeze, you're right

Looks like O'Brien lining up on offense in place of Psenicka. I wish the announcers paid a bit closer attention

I was driving and had the whcu stream going. They pointed it out.

Shane does a great job in the 6x5 and Penney with a clutch ENG. What a day for Cornell sports fans.

Quote from: DafatoneAdd in that I don't think we've seen Psenicka since early.

I don't think he was in the mob around Shane at the end. Hope it isn't serious.

Check the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

Quote from: BearLoverCheck the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

Correct.  Saw it live.  Btw Stanley was an absolute beast and O'Leary was driving them to distraction.

Quote from: BearLoverCheck the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

At the above-referenced 18-minute mark, you can see Psenicka fall awkwardly into the boards, right-shoulder-first. He actually returns for a second shift with about 15:30 to go, but clutches his right shoulder multiple times while on the ice and after that O'Brien started seeing shifts.

The ND forum (some members) are giving us credit for being the better team and wishing they could play at our level. Saying we outplayed them 5 of 6 periods this weekend. Im a bit offended by a member or two who supposedly visited this weekend calling Lynah a dump. They can have their "palace" (check out behind the scenes of their place on youtube, it is insane), but I'll take the wooden planks on concrete anyday over a no character nhl wannabe arena.

Absolutely amazing sweep. We sucked in the second period but bounced back and got it done. This sets us yo super well for the rest of the year.

What a goddamn day to be a Cornell sports fan. Mens' hockey sweeps NoDak, Women's destroys RPI, football dominates Princeton, Men's soccer rolls Harvard. Fuck yes.

Quote from: toddloseThe ND forum (some members) are giving us credit for being the better team and wishing they could play at our level. Saying we outplayed them 5 of 6 periods this weekend. Im a bit offended by a member or two who supposedly visited this weekend calling Lynah a dump. They can have their "palace" (check out behind the scenes of their place on youtube, it is insane), but I'll take the wooden planks on concrete anyday over a no character nhl wannabe arena.

The quality of discourse on that website is exactly as I remember it the last time I visited when we swept them in 2022.

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"Depth" is the word this season

Oh, and now 7-5-0 all time vs. NoDak.

nothing wrong with lynah except the old wooden benches but thats part of the charm as well.

Amazing weekend but not really. Town section was half empty (brought no energy as well). Student section needs a complete overhaul, this is bad

coffee tastes really good this morning

I was a little worried that after what I saw Friday that Hedquist would make a big difference on Saturday.  He proved to be just as leaky as Semptimphelter.  Cornell didn't dominate in any facet yet still swept.  I'll take the two wins knowing that there is plenty of room for improvement.

Quote from: Big DingusAmazing weekend but not really. Town section was half empty (brought no energy as well). Student section needs a complete overhaul, this is bad

Opening weekend against a team casual fans would have no reason to care about. This annual tradition of complaining that the building is perfect like it was when whoever was a student is predict and tiresome.  I'd rather see people spar with BearLover over draft picks (how many does nodak have again?) than have more lament that the crowd just didn't appreciate things appropriately.

It was an enormous weekend. Cornell's third period last night was fantastic after a second period where they looked tired and without enough in the tank to come back. It looked like it might be headed for 6-2 ND. But credit to team and coaches for coming out with renewed energy in the third and earning a statement sweep. Two big wins that will help in March.

Cornell is not healthy and didn't play flawless hockey by any stretch this weekend but still got two wins. I don't care that a couple hundred townies and students had other plans.

A couple dinged up and a couple out until after break.

lets play well next weekend to start the Conf sched

Wolfenberg seemed way out of positioned on the first NoDak goal this weekend. Then he scored his first career college goal a few shifts later.

Couldn't really tell much from watching Major. Obviously he is highly thought of to be on the 1st PP unit as a freshman. But the PP looked awful all weekend so I didn't see much from him (or anyone else on that unit).  

I'm surprised Mosko and Donaldson didn't crack the lineup, unless they're hurt.

Great depth on the roster, though with all the injuries already, that depth is almost gone.

Quote from: BearLoverI'm surprised Mosko and Donaldson didn't crack the lineup, unless they're hurt.

I don't know where I saw it, but I'm pretty sure they're hurt.

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To be clear, none of the above describes my own experience at Cornell (or the experience of most on the forum, probably). But I do think that's part of what's going on. Unlike at a football or basketball school where social life during football/basketball season revolves around the school's biggest sport, at Cornell social life conflicts with the school's biggest sport (hockey).

There was a time when a number of frats had quite large seating blocks. (Certainly in the late 80s).  Not that I could remember the names of those houses.

Man. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

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Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

I mean...We haven't beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

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Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

I mean...We haven't beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

And the problem is that there may not be an opponent with a winning record for a while depending on what shakes out in the conference next weekend.

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

I mean...We haven't beaten anyone with a winning record yet.

And the problem is that there may not be an opponent with a winning record for a while depending on what shakes out in the conference next weekend.

I think NoDak will find it's way back over .500 pretty quickly, and, once they get healthy, they will eventually make these wins look pretty good.

I'm going to guess there were quite a few "See you guys in March or April"s in the handshake line last night.

Quote from: VIEWfromKI was a little worried that after what I saw Friday that Hedquist would make a big difference on Saturday.  He proved to be just as leaky as Semptimphelter.  Cornell didn't dominate in any facet yet still swept.  I'll take the two wins knowing that there is plenty of room for improvement.

I don't know if we were watching the same game. We were better on the boards and we passed better in the offensive zone. Plus, you even noticed what may have been equally important: Shane was much better than Semptimphelquist. And while we're at it...

Quote from: Chris '03I'd rather see people spar with BearLover over draft picks (how many does nodak have again?)

If you were building an NHL team, you'd probably rather have the clay on the NoDak roster. If you wanted to bet on the results of a hockey game right now, put the money on red. This is the hand we've been dealt rooting for a team in the Ivy League. We aren't going to get as many of the draft picks because we can't admit a lot of the elite players and the players we can admit need a very deep commitment to hockey, architecture, hospitality or labor policy because otherwise we've got a branding issue within the conference. Under our constraints we do pretty goddamn well.

Quote from: BearLoverCouldn't really tell much from watching Major. Obviously he is highly thought of to be on the 1st PP unit as a freshman. But the PP looked awful all weekend so I didn't see much from him (or anyone else on that unit).  

I thought Major was all over the place, even if he didn't show up in the boxscore.* He has a little of early (even current) Castagna, in that he's used to being able to skate circles around people and he needs to better adjust to the level to take full advantage of his skills. He can do what he's trying to do but not as often as he thinks he can. When he figures out the right balance of "do it myself" and pull back and let the team work around him, he's going to be special. Again, like Castagna.

* I know that he was technically in the boxscore on the Rego goal but ... come on with that secondary assist. A wraparound off of Suda's shot to the glass and he passed to Suda? No complaints but come on.

1. Cornell dominated most of both games, except the 8-minute brain fart in the second period Saturday, which they promptly erased.

2. I had several good conversations with North Dakota fans and they appear to be good-natured and cognitively functional if you ignore their probable politics.

3. Age and Catherine's daughter Faye is the cutest kid I've ever seen, and I typically react to other people's children the way Jackson Kunz reacts to GETTING FUCKING SWEPT YOU GOON!

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

you and ralphie! choose your bedfellows however you want.

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Quote from: BearLoverCheck the replay two minutes into the first period. You can see Psenicka go into the boards.

At the above-referenced 18-minute mark, you can see Psenicka fall awkwardly into the boards, right-shoulder-first. He actually returns for a second shift with about 15:30 to go, but clutches his right shoulder multiple times while on the ice and after that O'Brien started seeing shifts.

New member here and new STM (1L law!) who sits right behind the tunnel - yep. Psenicka (26) went down the tunnel early in the first holding that right shoulder, dropped his glove and stick and they stayed there for the rest of the period. Looked to be in pretty considerable pain. Don't know what happened exactly, though I would not be surprised if it's a broken collarbone. Also notable - Castagna (38) blocked a shot I want to say mid second period that seemed to hit his knee above the padding, was floating in and out of going down the tunnel for a bit but stuck it out. Suda (27) took a shot to the hand around that time I want to say, and was icing it on the bench too. Walsh (14) I think smashed his face somehow with like 3 minutes left and was doing that floating in and out of the tunnel thing too; the lady who I assume is the medical expert was inspecting him for a bit and I think pulled some teeth, but not completely sure.

Um. I like watching the happenings on the bench haha.

All that being said, hi, these are my first hockey games actually I've been to in person! Devils fan but never really got the chance to go to games until coming up for law school. Got men's and women's season tickets so I'm gonna be studying tort law in the seats between periods, haha, and would love to meet people who know more about the Big Red :) (My only college hockey friend is a BU fan who insists we're rivals, which, I think we've played them like 20 times in our existence, we have bigger fish to fry I thought - pun intended - but.) And yeah, I've been educated enough on what teams are good and what teams aren't to know these were pretty big games. Super proud of the team for pulling out four big points.

Also, if that Kunz (29) from NoDak wanted to sit and watch Cornell dog on his team that bad, he could have just bought tickets to the game instead of taking so many penalties... Surprised with how chippy the game got and how little the refs did, especially when they'd do offsetting penalties like when one or two of our guys got jumped by half of NoDak... which also reminds me of that Emery (6, NoDak) and Catalano (15) interaction at the end of the second where Emery did the, like, you're next gesture at Catalano and Catalano was close to skating over and ripping his head off... HAH. Also also (I feel I'm rambling, I just have nobody else to talk about this to) what was up with that Septimphelter guy? Wasn't he supposed to be good?

I was at both games this weekend and here's my thoughts, for whatever that's worth:

-We definitely deserved both wins, despite the inconsistency in play. First weekend of actual play is often the same
-The referees were not calling much, which definitely didn't help. Get the game under control or injuries are likely to happen. We can't afford any more of those
-I was anticipating more from some of the guys-Castagna, Mack, Kovich, etc or maybe I was talking too much and missed something
-The NY contingency-Walsh, OLeary, Kraft were fast and productive - and even Major -to an extent - felt like quite a few more goals could have come from any of them-did I forget any NYers?
-Coach going off on the refs last night was warranted in my opinion
-I spoke with many visiting fans-nice group and I was surprised how many made the trip. They seemed to be having a great time
-Excited to see what comes next weekend

Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years. On even years we play somebody else; this year it's Quinnipiac, which is annoying since a) they're in our conference so we play them twice anyways and b) I loathe them.  Worth a trip if you're near NYC for Thanksgiving.

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

As someone from around there, I'll just say that the Dakotas' track record on Indigenous issues leaves something to be desired.

Also, Ralph Engelstad tried to insist on no name change as a condition of leaving all that money for the arena. He threw a birthday party or two for Hitler in the 80s.

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Quote from: BearLoverPeople in Greek life are mostly pregaming/partying on Friday and Saturday nights. In my experience a high proportion of students who purchase season tickets are freshmen. Many of these students joins frats/sororities and don't buy season tickets in future seasons. If you're a girl who wants to get ready to go out or a guy whose frat is throwing a party that night, you can't really attend a game that night.

To be clear, none of the above describes my own experience at Cornell (or the experience of most on the forum, probably). But I do think that's part of what's going on. Unlike at a football or basketball school where social life during football/basketball season revolves around the school's biggest sport, at Cornell social life conflicts with the school's biggest sport (hockey).

There was a time when a number of frats had quite large seating blocks. (Certainly in the late 80s).  Not that I could remember the names of those houses.

"If you remember the Eighties, you weren't part of them."

NoDak ran into the "Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut" of college hockey this weekend. :-D I was in section O for both games, which was a mix of Cornell and NoDak fans and had pleasant conversations with a few of the NoDak fans. I tip my cap to them for traveling so well; there was a healthy amount of green in O and F. Much better cohesion for the team's first two games than I feel we've seen at the start of past recent seasons. The injuries are however troubling. As someone mentioned earlier, the team was fortunate how healthy it was throughout last season.

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BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as "boys playing against men." I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

Welcome stereax, seems like you're in for a great season. Seats behind the bench are great, I can remember sprinting over there as a kid as soon as the game ended to high five the players and try to get a puck. Castagnas soak actually was on Bancroft clapper, he was on the ground and couldn't get out of the way but I was glad he played through it.

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BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as "boys playing against men." I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

I see, I see! I've been thinking about biting for Frozen Apple tickets this year, I think a few other law students will be there, but unfortunately I don't yet know my Thanksgiving plans (as in, there's a decent chance I'm headed to Europe for decently important reasons) so I haven't yet pulled the trigger. Def want to try to get to Red Hot next year, considering what I've heard.

What's the deal with Quinnipiac? I know the Harvard rivalry, I know the Colgate toothpaste thing, I know maybe 50% of the chants going on because I'm just far enough away from Section B that I can't clearly hear things single people are yelling... I know (according to my BU friend) that NoDak is a good team whose fans are full of "racists" and "terrible people" (he regales an anecdote where a NoDak fan threw a beer at the BU goalie's mom??? is this a thing in college hockey, wtf???) (me: apparently it's anti hate day when we play NoDak next week, him: tell the NoDak fans that) (sorry for the parentheses I am RAMBLING now ::burnout::) Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

Quote from: chimpfoodWelcome stereax, seems like you're in for a great season. Seats behind the bench are great, I can remember sprinting over there as a kid as soon as the game ended to high five the players and try to get a puck. Castagnas soak actually was on Bancroft clapper, he was on the ground and couldn't get out of the way but I was glad he played through it.

Hoping for a good season! I'm definitely too far behind to do the high-five/puck thing, plus I feel I'm a little old for it HAHAHA, especially when I see all the little kids crowding the bench area during the women's games I'd just feel bad about it, haha. But I do love to watch the guys chatting on the bench and the equipment manager running the entire show, re-hoofing players, getting them new sticks, and all that. For women's games I tend to sit closer to the glass and stairs, so less of that for those games.

Yeah, I recall Castagna got hit by a teammate during I think the powerplay, couldn't remember who though. Looked like he was 50/50 on continuing or calling it a game, happy he stuck it out but also hopeful it's nothing actually serious. (Don't know how well NCAA regulates player health, just going off NHL scares where you hear about players playing half a season on one leg...)

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Quote from: abmarksMan. A sweep and we dropped to 7th in the pairwise.

Can't we schedule some actual quality opposition that doesn't drag down our sos?  Wtf?  ;)

The worst part is now we have to root for NoDak all year.

I have no problem with that as long as they stick to the green sweaters.  Go Sioux!

Ahem. Hawks.

Nope. Sioux. If there's one team where I can accept a Native American nickname it's UND.

As someone from around there, I'll just say that the Dakotas' track record on Indigenous issues leaves something to be desired.

Also, Ralph Engelstad tried to insist on no name change as a condition of leaving all that money for the arena. He threw a birthday party or two for Hitler in the 80s.

Correct.   Hawks.

Quote from: JasonN95NoDak ran into the "Dream-Crushing, Soul-Devouring Juggernaut" of college hockey this weekend. :-D I was in section O for both games, which was a mix of Cornell and NoDak fans and had pleasant conversations with a few of the NoDak fans. I tip my cap to them for traveling so well; there was a healthy amount of green in O and F. Much better cohesion for the team's first two games than I feel we've seen at the start of past recent seasons. The injuries are however troubling. As someone mentioned earlier, the team was fortunate how healthy it was throughout last season.

From my memories of a bunch of us traveling to Grand Forks in '09, I remember walking into some local thirst parlors and getting the *record scratch* effect. I didn't know if it was the kind of place where "how dare you wear the opponent colors in here" or "I hear Cornell is in *gasp* NEW YORK,...are you gonna be callous east coast bastards?" but once we broke the ice (so to speak) with some of the locals, they were all cool with us and we were with them. From my experience at all the Frozen Fours I've been to, North Dakota fans are by and large (and I mean large in several ways) some of the more friendly and easy-going yet intensely loyal hockey fans you'll come across and like us, they'll travel anywhere.  They're generally pleasant folks if you like hockey. And they REALLY want to hear what you think of their A R E N A.

Quote from: BMacWelcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!  

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU.... too."  BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Quote from: stereaxWhat's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

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BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as "boys playing against men." I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

I like to believe that after the way the Big Red pasted BU that weekend that they would not be setting foot in Lynah again during the Parker era so neutral site was the only remaining option.  Cornell did play that one off at BU two seasons ago so I'm curious if there will be a reciprocal trip to Ithaca in an upcoming Red Hot Hockey off year?

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Quote from: stereaxWhat's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange...there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school's academics).

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Quote from: stereaxWhat's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

Oh, there's a shorter version.

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Quote from: stereaxWhat's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange...there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school's academics).

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Quote from: TrotskyIINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

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Quote from: TrotskyIINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra.  I'd  go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless.  I would purchase again.

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BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as "boys playing against men." I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

Oh cool that's context I didn't have- thanks!

My knowledge of Cornell hockey is kinda of like that classic New Yorker cover "view from 9th avenue"- where anything before 2004 is Prehistory, known only from archeology and carbon dating.

Idk how to post a pic here but:
https://i.etsystatic.com/9820776/r/il/30f370/3258721815/il_570xN.3258721815_dy3n.jpg

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BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!  

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU.... too."  BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Some more history! Love it, thank you.

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Quote from: TrotskyIINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra.  I'd  go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless.  I would purchase again.

They are strikingly similar, commuter colleges that have ballooned into "universities."  Both even have middling law and med schools, although some of QU's med departments are well-respected.

Quinnipiac's like Hofstra without the brutalism.

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Quote from: JasonN95I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

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Quote from: JasonN95I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

i posted the Cornell reel from game 1 and it did include good non-goal action

Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

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Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

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Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

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Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year?   It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast.  And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

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Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year?   It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast.  And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

During the women's games last weekend they were using shots from  the cameras over the goal lines on some replays. I only caught a couple of periods of the men's games. Were they using those shots in the men's games?

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Quote from: BMacWelcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!  

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU.... too."  BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Thanks for the warm welcome, y'all!! Looking forward to chatting more as the season goes on. And thanks everyone for giving me some backstory about all this!

(Is it bad that I don't know what Hofstra is...)

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Quote from: JasonN95Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year?   It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast.  And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"

During the women's games last weekend they were using shots from  the cameras over the goal lines on some replays. I only caught a couple of periods of the men's games. Were they using those shots in the men's games?

Yes. Great view of Rego's wraparound goal on Saturday. I'm sure it was in the YouTube highlight videos.