Harvard's level of talent pretty similar to Albany's. Will be curious to see how Cornell's d-line holds up on a short week.
Harvard is always good, although they were upset by Brown but then they beat UNH. We need to improve tackling like we did against Yale and run the football. I know Coach Swanstrom likes to play fast, but if we lose time of possession like we did against Albany, then our defense will be "gassed" by the third quarter again. If you look at the history of Cornell football, all our winning seasons were tied to a strong running game, which you especially need in Ithaca's climate. Go Big Red!
Somewhat agree but the defense had trouble getting off the field given Albany's long drives that got them deep into Cornell territory. I think Albany only punted twice the whole game.
Quote from: rss77Somewhat agree but the defense had trouble getting off the field given Albany's long drives that got them deep into Cornell territory. I think Albany only punted twice the whole game.
Cornell may be outsized at different positions, but they need to keep working on getting off the blocks and wrapping up the legs on the tackles. I expect to see good success on the defense against H.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: rss77Somewhat agree but the defense had trouble getting off the field given Albany's long drives that got them deep into Cornell territory. I think Albany only punted twice the whole game.
Cornell may be outsized at different positions, but they need to keep working on getting off the blocks and wrapping up the legs on the tackles. I expect to see good success on the defense against H.
Harvard isn't as big along their OL and DL lines as years past. However, they are very athletic.
I think we'll see better play on defense against Harvard. Backus coached defenses usually step up. On the offensive side, I hope the team really commits to the running game like we did against Yale. Wtih the new head coach, I think he's trying to find "that guy" who can really carry the load running the football. The weather looks good for Friday night lights on ESPN2. Come out to Schoellkof and cheer on the Big Red!
Quote from: Local MotionI think we'll see better play on defense against Harvard. Backus coached defenses usually step up. On the offensive side, I hope the team really commits to the running game like we did against Yale. Wtih the new head coach, I think he's trying to find "that guy" who can really carry the load running the football. The weather looks good for Friday night lights on ESPN2. Come out to Schoellkof and cheer on the Big Red!
Cornell doesn't have an athletic "big back" that can carry the load. They have smaller speed backs along the lines of an Eddie Tillman type. Next year's recruiting class has a few good backs coming in.
Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Quote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Doubt that Cornell is competing for the semipros going to Oregon. National TV exposure and we don't wear the Cornell colors. Go Big Black. Yuck! At least Archer wasn't that stupid. Did Schafer ever dress us in black?
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: CU2007Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Doubt that Cornell is competing for the semipros going to Oregon. National TV exposure and we don't wear the Cornell colors. Go Big Black. Yuck! At least Archer wasn't that stupid. Did Schafer ever dress us in black?
Did not say that Cornell is competing directly against Oregon for recruits.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: CU2007Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Doubt that Cornell is competing for the semipros going to Oregon. National TV exposure and we don't wear the Cornell colors. Go Big Black. Yuck! At least Archer wasn't that stupid. Did Schafer ever dress us in black?
Crazy stunt! An extra, completely unnecessary expense.
Quote from: George64Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: CU2007Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Doubt that Cornell is competing for the semipros going to Oregon. National TV exposure and we don't wear the Cornell colors. Go Big Black. Yuck! At least Archer wasn't that stupid. Did Schafer ever dress us in black?
Crazy stunt! An extra, completely unnecessary expense.
It's being sponsored by Nike so they absorb the expense. It is aimed to degree at recruiting. Other Ivy schools have wore similar special game uniforms.
I think the black is sick and I would guess that the vast majority of the younger audience agrees.
Quote from: chimpfoodI think the black is sick and I would guess that the vast majority of the younger audience agrees.
The older audience also agrees, but the word "sick" means something different to us. ::yark::
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: CU2007Quote from: David HardingQuote from: arugulaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Ken711Cornell is going to wear special black uniforms for the game tomorrow against Harvard. Don't see changing the outcome, but it'll look cool. :-D
Not to me. Dumb.
I'm with Al
The Big Red since 1865 wearing black. Idiotic.
Yeah, what's the point?
Maybe recruiting. Kids eat that stuff up. Oregon uses its ties to Nike to never wear the same combo twice and has publicly stated that the "cool" uniforms help recruiting.
https://www.squadlocker.com/squad-blog/bid/332506/the-oregon-effect-does-team-apparel-impact-recruiting
Doubt that Cornell is competing for the semipros going to Oregon. National TV exposure and we don't wear the Cornell colors. Go Big Black. Yuck! At least Archer wasn't that stupid. Did Schafer ever dress us in black?
Wasn't there some gray camo promotion?
I'm not as concerned about the color of the uniform as I am about the defense's ability to get off the field.
What uniforms are more iconic than for example the Yankees and Penn State and the Canadiens. Why? Because they don't water down the image with this nonsense. A uniform becomes legendary through constancy. That Oregon business is seen by the sentient community for what it is: a short term gimmick. If you're going to alter the jersey at least make it your color.
For decades Nike has pushed black because it was considered tough and gang style. Absurd.
This might be the biggest old guy revolt that I've seen on this forum. Everyone does alternate jerseys sometimes, the players love it, most fans love it, and I think you're crazy if you don't think these black jerseys look great.
Personally I'm not losing much sleep over this issue.
I think Cornell's red and white uniforms are some of the best looking in all of college football. However, college football should always be about the student-athletes who are playing the game and if they get excited about wearing black uniforms against Harvard tonite, then let them enjoy the experience. Trust me as a former student-athlete at Cornell, practicing day after day after day gets old and having something fun and new is always cool! See you tonight and Go Big Red!
my favorite thing in the world is watching a bunch of old men get catty like they're blogging the latest episode of project runway
Reminder that whatever color the team is wearing, the game is at 6 eastern. Which is a weird time I'm assuming is to accommodate ESPN. But I would have been assumed a 7 or 7:30 kickoff.
Wang is throwing the ball well.
We're going to need a pass rush tonight.
Quote from: mike1960Wang is throwing the ball well.
on the first drive, yes. for a couple of nice throws on the second drive. he's thrown 3 off-target since then. he and pope are both running well.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Wang is throwing the ball well.
on the first drive, yes. for a couple of nice throws on the second drive. he's thrown 3 off-target since then. he and pope are both running well.
Yep. Wang might have to use his legs more to get us some scores.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Wang is throwing the ball well.
on the first drive, yes. for a couple of nice throws on the second drive. he's thrown 3 off-target since then. he and pope are both running well.
Yep. Wang might have to use his legs more to get us some scores.
really good drive after the defensive stop. Kurtz with a clean block to free Wang to run for a TD after the Martini sideline pass to Kurtz. Looking really good and mixing things up in a way Harvard is struggling to keep up with. Both offenses at giving the defenses fits.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Quote from: ugarteQuote from: mike1960Wang is throwing the ball well.
on the first drive, yes. for a couple of nice throws on the second drive. he's thrown 3 off-target since then. he and pope are both running well.
Yep. Wang might have to use his legs more to get us some scores.
really good drive after the defensive stop. Kurtz with a clean block to free Wang to run for a TD after the Martini sideline pass to Kurtz. Looking really good and mixing things up in a way Harvard is struggling to keep up with. Both offenses at giving the defenses fits.
If we can just get a little better on the run defense . . .
Two Harvard touchdowns on breakdowns in the secondary.
Wang falls just short on 4th down. Really thought he would've gotten it, but he didn't stretch out.
Harvard is getting 4 and 5 yards on first down with the runs. That's a killer.
Game was in play until the refs blew the targetting call.. its like the dont even know the rules in the replay booth,
Still how many blown coverages can a D have in one half.
Quote from: scoop85Wang falls just short on 4th down. Really thought he would've gotten it, but he didn't stretch out.
tripped over his blocker
Quote from: upprdeckGame was in play until the refs blew the targetting call.. its like the dont even know the rules in the replay booth,
Still how many blown coverages can a D have in one half.
I don't have replay on my computer, so I couldn't see how the TE got space between him and the linebacker for that last TD. Did he get a rub?
Better team than UAlbany IMO. If Ivies allowed post season play Harvard would go a ways. Cornell staff has got its work cut out in trying to attract higher caliber athletes.
Quote from: rss77Better team than UAlbany IMO. If Ivies allowed post season play Harvard would go a ways. Cornell staff has got its work cut out in trying to attract higher caliber athletes.
They have a better class coming in this year than at anytime in the 11 years under Archer.
A couple of observations: It's hard to win game when the defensive line is getting pushed back 1-2 yards on the snap of the ball. Also was impressed with pregame coin toss where both the Cornell Presdent, Kolikoff, and the Chair of the Board of Trustees were out there. In all my years following Cornell football I had never seen anything like that. I think it's a good sign that Admin truly cares about the football program.