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Title: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: rss77 on September 29, 2024, 05:58:28 PM
Just starting the thread.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Chris '03 on September 29, 2024, 06:52:23 PM
No complaints about the game thread but can you please include sport in the thread title?
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: rss77 on September 30, 2024, 11:51:10 AM
Sure.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on September 30, 2024, 01:03:45 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: billhoward on September 30, 2024, 09:16:43 PM
We blow out Yale thanks to good play and to terrible Yale hands in the first half, there's fan enthusiasm, and now football is getting game by game separate subjects. When I ran out of Schoellkopf from the Yale game, for a moment, a crazy stupid moment, I thought, if we can beat Yale and Yale is supposed to be the best Ivy team, could we ... win the Ivy title outright for the first time, new coach, his first year? By the time I got to the car, my head had cleared.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: David Harding on September 30, 2024, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: billhowardWe blow out Yale thanks to good play and to terrible Yale hands in the first half, there's fan enthusiasm, and now football is getting game by game separate subjects. When I ran out of Schoellkopf from the Yale game, for a moment, a crazy stupid moment, I thought, if we can beat Yale and Yale is supposed to be the best Ivy team, could we ... win the Ivy title outright for the first time, new coach, his first year? By the time I got to the car, my head had cleared.
My thought (from afar) was more along the line of how many wins would it take him to be Ivy coach of the year?
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Swampy on October 01, 2024, 12:20:19 AM
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: billhowardWe blow out Yale thanks to good play and to terrible Yale hands in the first half, there's fan enthusiasm, and now football is getting game by game separate subjects. When I ran out of Schoellkopf from the Yale game, for a moment, a crazy stupid moment, I thought, if we can beat Yale and Yale is supposed to be the best Ivy team, could we ... win the Ivy title outright for the first time, new coach, his first year? By the time I got to the car, my head had cleared.
My thought (from afar) was more along the line of how many wins would it take him to be Ivy coach of the year?

To be clichéd, either the Ivy championship or Ivy COTY will require taking one game at a time.

BEAT ALBANY!
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 01, 2024, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: billhowardWe blow out Yale thanks to good play and to terrible Yale hands in the first half, there's fan enthusiasm, and now football is getting game by game separate subjects. When I ran out of Schoellkopf from the Yale game, for a moment, a crazy stupid moment, I thought, if we can beat Yale and Yale is supposed to be the best Ivy team, could we ... win the Ivy title outright for the first time, new coach, his first year? By the time I got to the car, my head had cleared.
My thought (from afar) was more along the line of how many wins would it take him to be Ivy coach of the year?

To be clichéd, either the Ivy championship or Ivy COTY will require taking one game at a time.

BEAT ALBANY!
wasn't albany in the I-AA championship last year? i want to win but also want to control my expectations.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Ken711 on October 01, 2024, 09:20:50 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: billhowardWe blow out Yale thanks to good play and to terrible Yale hands in the first half, there's fan enthusiasm, and now football is getting game by game separate subjects. When I ran out of Schoellkopf from the Yale game, for a moment, a crazy stupid moment, I thought, if we can beat Yale and Yale is supposed to be the best Ivy team, could we ... win the Ivy title outright for the first time, new coach, his first year? By the time I got to the car, my head had cleared.
My thought (from afar) was more along the line of how many wins would it take him to be Ivy coach of the year?

To be clichéd, either the Ivy championship or Ivy COTY will require taking one game at a time.

BEAT ALBANY!
wasn't albany in the I-AA championship last year? i want to win but also want to control my expectations.


Albany made it to the national semifinal round, where they lost to the eventual national champion South Dakota State.  I just hope we come out of this game without any serious injuries heading into the bulk of the Ivy League season coming up.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: rss77 on October 01, 2024, 10:27:39 AM
In the past I have gone over to Hamilton to watch Colgate battle CAA teams such as Richmond (Going to Patriot League next season) and Villanova.  Being out of the CAA Albany does not have the restrictions the Patriot or Ivy League (Academic Indexing).  Noticed that athletically the CAA teams were a step above Colgate's talent and expecting the same of Albany next Saturday against the Red.  Wang's passing and Cornell's receiving corps gives the Red a chance IMO (Waiting for Kiser to break out).
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: billhoward on October 03, 2024, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: rss77In the past I have gone over to Hamilton to watch Colgate battle CAA teams such as Richmond (Going to Patriot League next season) and Villanova.  Being out of the CAA Albany does not have the restrictions the Patriot or Ivy League (Academic Indexing).  Noticed that athletically the CAA teams were a step above Colgate's talent and expecting the same of Albany next Saturday against the Red.  Wang's passing and Cornell's receiving corps gives the Red a chance IMO (Waiting for Kiser to break out).
We should all have your optimism.

We missed by five years honoring the centennial of a comment by this sportswriter (not Damon Runyon, not Grantland Rice):

Quote from: Hugh Keogh ca. 1919The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 01:15:53 PM
Unsurprisingly, Albany OL looks like they're going to push us around all day. That said, the D had a good stand on the edge of the red zone on the opening drive and forced a FG.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 01:20:54 PM
Inauspicious start on offense:  3 and out along with a procedure penalty.  Tough going against what appears a bigger, faster team.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2024, 01:31:54 PM
Do we have any chance in this?  My impression of SUNY-A is they are just a half-step below being an FBS D-1 program.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: TrotskyDo we have any chance in this?  My impression of SUNY-A is they are just a half-step below being an FBS D-1 program.
We'd have to use guile.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2024, 01:34:09 PM
Have the SUNYs been trying to step up in sports?  Isn't Buffalo legitimately good now in basketball?
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2024, 01:34:56 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TrotskyDo we have any chance in this?  My impression of SUNY-A is they are just a half-step below being an FBS D-1 program.
We'd have to use guile.
Hmm... (https://www.google.com/search?q=airplane+thats+just+what+they%27ll+be+suspcting%27&rlz=1C1OPNX_enUS1032US1032&oq=airplane+thats+just+what+they%27ll+be+suspcting%27&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDU5MDRqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:46d29ec5,vid:y0X0ZYbnHxA,st:0)
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 01:36:14 PM
Time of possession must be 13 and 1.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 01:37:54 PM
Quote from: TrotskyHave the SUNYs been trying to step up in sports?  Isn't Buffalo legitimately good now in basketball?
i think when we were in college these were all D3 schools, so, yeah. Binghamton managed to have a basketball recruiting scandal IIRC.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioTime of possession must be 13 and 1.
That's not bad for being down 3-0 after Q1. After our punt Albany got hit with a timely chop block penalty. The 15 yards pushed them out of the PK's range and his kick didn't clear the end zone.

Cornell started the drive with a jet sweep by Musungu for our first first down. Albany forced a punt, though. After a good punt inside the 20, Cornell had to rekick and the Great Danes conjures a penalty after the return and... the ball ended up in the same place.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 01:51:46 PM
Penalties slowing Albany down,offsetting Cornell's missed tackles.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioPenalties slowing Albany down,offsetting Cornell's missed tackles.
Plus they keep going deep to wide open receivers but fortunately the Albany QB has no idea where the ball is going when he lets it go.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorioPenalties slowing Albany down,offsetting Cornell's missed tackles.
Plus they keep going deep to wide open receivers but fortunately the Albany QB has no idea where the ball is going when he lets it go.
Be thankful for small favors.  Defense has to be tiring.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 02:10:03 PM
Guile!
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 02:12:14 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioGuile!
Yes! A WR screen is actually a WR pass down to the 7 and two plays later, a neat little slip screen from the 4 for a TD. Cornell up 7-6!

(Did I mention that Cornell stopped Albany on short 3d and goal to force a FG? No? Well, that happened before the TD.)
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 02:18:47 PM
If guile could 9nly tackle.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 02:26:35 PM
Crap. He pushed the ball over the line.

Edit: The whistle must have blown first?
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 02:27:57 PM
Quote from: mike1960Crap. He pushed the ball over the line.
he did not! not before the refs called forward progress dead. call stands after review and a second goal line stand means the Big Red have a 7-6 halftime lead.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 02:29:09 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioIf guile could 9nly tackle.
doing a good job clogging up the lanes in short yardage but are awful in the open field.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: margolism on October 05, 2024, 02:30:17 PM
Cornell has the ball to start the second half.

Albany's best defensive player is out for the rest of the game due to a targeting call.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 02:30:56 PM
That's the kind of defensive stand that can define a squad.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 02:35:55 PM
Guts on D.  Guile on O.  Amazing half.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 02:48:43 PM
Let's go score a touchdown right here and take the bite out of the Grayhounds.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 02:53:56 PM
So much for big mo.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 03:02:40 PM
Nice play calling all drive. Great call on the screen pass.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Ken711 on October 05, 2024, 03:13:01 PM
Albany's huge OL is just pushing Cornell's DL back at will.  If you can't stop the running game you aren't going to win a game.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ken711Albany's huge OL is just pushing Cornell's DL back at will.  If you can't stop the running game you aren't going to win a game.
Still keeping it close. Down 16-10 after Q3.

Great Danes, not Greyhounds btw
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 03:34:33 PM
Nice pass rush. Was that a blitz off the corner?
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 03:37:22 PM
Nice job by the play caller. He has a really good feel for the defensive tendencies.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 03:42:30 PM
Quote from: mike1960Nice job by the play caller. He has a really good feel for the defensive tendencies.
Great strip sack to force the punt. Cornell moves the ball a little, pulls out a deep pass to the TE on 3d and 1 down to the 1... but it's called back for a chop block and Cornell has to punt.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mike1960Nice job by the play caller. He has a really good feel for the defensive tendencies.
Great strip sack to force the punt. Cornell moves the ball a little, pulls out a deep pass to the TE on 3d and 1 down to the 1... but it's called back for a chop block and Cornell has to punt.

Drive killing penalties.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 05, 2024, 03:51:38 PM
Need a pick.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 04:00:12 PM
First down sack gives Albany 2d and very long but they chip away and convert on 4th and 2 then make the drive pay off with a rushing TD+2 to go up 14.

Cornell is running out of time but after a long catch and run by Musungu, Cornell is back in the red zone.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 04:03:36 PM
Quote from: ugarteFirst down sack gives Albany 2d and very long but they chip away and convert on 4th and 2 then make the drive pay off with a rushing TD+2 to go up 14.

Cornell is running out of time but after a long catch and run by Musungu, Cornell is back in the red zone.
Alas, the drive dies on the 9 yard line as Wang and Lee weren't on the same page for the location of the ball. Albany takes over with under two minutes left and a 24-10 lead.

Game is almost certainly over but still a lot to like from a game against a tough opponent.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarteFirst down sack gives Albany 2d and very long but they chip away and convert on 4th and 2 then make the drive pay off with a rushing TD+2 to go up 14.

Cornell is running out of time but after a long catch and run by Musungu, Cornell is back in the red zone.
Asks the drive dies in the 9 yard line as Wang and Lee went on the same page for the location of the ball. Albany takes over with under two minutes left and a 24-10 lead.

Game is almost certainly over but still a lot to like from a game against a tough opponent.

Yep. The program is definitely going in the right direction. We could have been in this game if we avoided a few crucial mistakes.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 04:06:33 PM
Ugh. Ugly finish - huge hole for Albany turns into an 84 yard TD run where we never got a hand on the guy.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Ken711 on October 05, 2024, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarteFirst down sack gives Albany 2d and very long but they chip away and convert on 4th and 2 then make the drive pay off with a rushing TD+2 to go up 14.

Cornell is running out of time but after a long catch and run by Musungu, Cornell is back in the red zone.
Alas, the drive dies on the 9 yard line as Wang and Lee weren't on the same page for the location of the ball. Albany takes over with under two minutes left and a 24-10 lead.

Game is almost certainly over but still a lot to like from a game against a tough opponent.

Albany's record was deceiving.  They were without their starting OT prior to this game.  I agree, they can move the ball just have to play more mistake free.  Harvard will be a tough game as they knocked off U of NH.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: mike1960 on October 05, 2024, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: ugarteUgh. Ugly finish - huge hole for Albany turns into an 84 yard TD run where we never got a hand on the guy.

That didn't bother me. They had to sell out to try to get the ball back.

The score does not indicate how close the game actually was.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: ugarte on October 05, 2024, 05:29:30 PM
Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: ugarteUgh. Ugly finish - huge hole for Albany turns into an 84 yard TD run where we never got a hand on the guy.

That didn't bother me. They had to sell out to try to get the ball back.

The score does not indicate how close the game actually was.
agreed just an unfortunate way to close out a good performance from the D, just like the blown snap / fumble on the meaningless last play of the game was a bummer.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: rss77 on October 05, 2024, 07:06:27 PM
Game was very similar to 2nd half of Colgate where Red could not stop the run due to Albany's strong o-line.  Also on many of the pass plays Cornell was not able to add yardage after catch. Also noted number of grad students on Albany roster. Swanstrom and staff are getting max effort out of the inherited talent from the Archer era.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: tycho on October 05, 2024, 11:22:50 PM
Was relieved Wang got up from the second quarter hit that resulted in an ejection on the targeting call (I heard it, but did not see it). Not much else to be relieved by here, but would agree that the final score did not account for the closeness of the game throughout. Cornell's D held earnestly through the first half, despite the lopsidedness of the ToP battle, but was clearly worn down towards the end. Too bad about the finish, but they didn't lay down early against a bigger, faster team. Things came apart towards the end.

Unrelatedly, it seems Brown found themselves trapped by Bryant following the big W against H. H will be motivated to avoid an 0-2 start in Ivy play and will play tough.

Quote from: rss77Swanstrom and staff are getting max effort out of the inherited talent from the Archer era.

This may be the most reassuring takeaway.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: David Harding on October 06, 2024, 04:36:58 PM
FWIW, this week Athletics beat The Sun to posting a post-game story.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 06, 2024, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: David HardingFWIW, this week Athletics beat The Sun to posting a post-game story.
And, initially, got the score wrong (24-10).
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Ken711 on October 06, 2024, 06:25:02 PM
I just looked at the box score and the YouTube game highlights.  Cornell's starting LT Davis Watson was out for the game due to an injury. Cornell started freshman Tyler Dunn at LT in the Albany game.
Title: Re: Cornell-Albany 10/5/2024
Post by: Local Motion on October 07, 2024, 01:24:40 PM
Cornell did some good things, but it usually comes down to who has the best running game.  Albany dominated time of possession nearly 37 minutes to our 23 minutes.  The Great Danes rushed for 273 yards to our 97 yards.  The rushing stats alone usually results in a win.  Go Big Red!