I figure there have to be fellow sufferers here, demographically-speaking.
I have love-hated this team for 54 seasons, now. LFGM.
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Yup. One of the few things I inherited from my Dad's Mom Gussie, who was a Mets fan from Day 1 in 1962 because the Brooklyn Dodgers had broken her heart. 1986 feels like a loooooooooong time ago now.
I've had a lot of happiness since 1986. Mostly because while I have been a fan since 1971, the late 70s permanently froze my Mets thermometer so I absolutely expect to lose every game.
"A Yankee fan has 60 disappointments a season, a Mets fan has 60 thrills." -- Jimmy Breslin, 1962
I can top your pain. I'm a Mariners fan....
At least you all have 5 World Series appearances, as recent as 2015, to look back on, and 2 WS titles. The M's have 0 WS appearances. Yup, 0. And our most recent playoff appearance came after a 21 year drought.
Sigh.....
Quote from: Chris H82I can top your pain. I'm a Mariners fan....
At least you all have 5 World Series appearances, as recent as 2015, to look back on, and 2 WS titles. The M's have 0 WS appearances. Yup, 0. And our most recent playoff appearance came after a 21 year drought.
Frasier: So you're not in Seattle because of the Mariners?
Sam Malone: Believe me, no ballplayer is in Seattle because of the Mariners.
Quote from: Chris H82I can top your pain. I'm a Mariners fan....
At least you all have 5 World Series appearances, as recent as 2015, to look back on, and 2 WS titles. The M's have 0 WS appearances. Yup, 0. And our most recent playoff appearance came after a 21 year drought.
Sigh.....
I'm old enough to consider the Mariners an expansion team (but young enough not to consider the Mets one). So by definition they can't have a chanpionship drought.
Quote from: Chris H82I can top your pain. I'm a Mariners fan....
At least you all have 5 World Series appearances, as recent as 2015, to look back on, and 2 WS titles. The M's have 0 WS appearances. Yup, 0. And our most recent playoff appearance came after a 21 year drought.
Sigh.....
If we're playing Topper, my AL team has been the Mariners since expansion.
But shut your whore mouth; we're in first despite hitting even worse than the Mets.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Chris H82I can top your pain. I'm a Mariners fan....
At least you all have 5 World Series appearances, as recent as 2015, to look back on, and 2 WS titles. The M's have 0 WS appearances. Yup, 0. And our most recent playoff appearance came after a 21 year drought.
Sigh.....
I'm old enough to consider the Mariners an expansion team (but young enough not to consider the Mets one). So by definition they can't have a chanpionship drought.
This is the correct answer.
Mets, Padres, Nats, Rangers, Brewers -- not expansion.
Mariners, Blue Jays -- expansion.
Dbacks, Rockies, all of Florida -- fake.
This is actually a more painful season than most, despite the callouses of age.
Quote from: TrotskyThis is actually a more painful season than most, despite the callouses of age.
6 losses when leading after 8 innings. No other team has more than 2.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyThis is actually a more painful season than most, despite the callouses of age.
6 losses when leading after 8 innings. No other team has more than 2.
The Pirates tend to blow their leads in the 7th and 8th.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyThis is actually a more painful season than most, despite the callouses of age.
6 losses when leading after 8 innings. No other team has more than 2.
The Pirates tend to blow their leads in the 7th and 8th.
That's marginally less painful
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ugarteQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyThis is actually a more painful season than most, despite the callouses of age.
6 losses when leading after 8 innings. No other team has more than 2.
The Pirates tend to blow their leads in the 7th and 8th.
That's marginally less painful
we make it up in volume
Mets have a chance to lose on our third continent today!
If anyone is being driven crazy by MLBTV on Chrome with a circle of Sisyphus, it came right up for me on Edge (Sucks, but not this time).
Clay Holmes will not have a 0.00 ERA this season.
Juan Soto OBP currently 1.000.
Clay Holmes will likely not have a < 1.00 ERA this season.
Well, the pitching held through the first series, anyway.
Manaea gone until mid-May now, because of course.
i think pitching will be fine.
hitting who knows
Suboptimal start for Kodai.
Love the BJs logo, hate their font.
The Mets continue to play their 7th inning stretch song about an insatiable 19th century Italian girl who can't stop fucking every man in town.
It's a choice.
Tylor Megill: three emergency spot starts in openers, 16 IP, 3 wins, 0 runs allowed.
We're the Colorado Yankees tonight. ::rolleyes::
Most wins in MLB since 2021: Zach Wheeler. May the Wilpons burn in hell forever.
Quote from: TrotskyWe're the Colorado Yankees tonight. ::rolleyes::
Most wins in MLB since 2021: Zach Wheeler. May the Wilpons burn in hell forever.
Nah. I like them. (Go Phils!)
You risk some of us writing more on the miracles of this century by the Sox.
We believe two possibly confusing MLB team names are best put as the Sox and the White Sox.
Quote from: billhowardYou risk some of us writing more on the miracles of this century by the Sox.
We believe two possibly confusing MLB team names are best put as the Sox and the White Sox.
The Chicago team had the name first. My reflex is to think of them whenever anyone says "Sox."
Leave it to Red Sox fans to make everything about them.
Please continue with your non-sensical Mets therapy blather, Trotsky.
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In response to the season cratering, we are hosting ChatGPT Night.
I've posted before about the angst of being a Mariners fan. In advance of tonight's Game 5 ALDS vs the Tigers (and Tarik Skubal), there's a wonderful article about being an M's fan and just being a sports fan in general. Written by a non-sports reporter, no less. I realize that most of you won't be able to read the full article due to the paywall, so I'll quote a bit of it below.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/in-rare-mariners-game-5-seattle-battles-history/
"A team can consume a city — its attention, its passion, its pride — like little else. Theater, dance, cinema, literature, art — all worthy pursuits. None unite people, masses of people, the way a winning team does.
Paul Blackburn, a Vermont-born poet (who happens to share a name with a Yankees pitcher), wrote about days like this. It was 65 years ago this month, Game 7 of the 1960 World Series, which would end with the greatest hit in baseball history, Bill Mazeroski's series-ending home run.
"Nice day,
sweet October afternoon
Men walk the sun-shot avenues,
Second, Third, eyes
intent elsewhere
ears communing with transistors in shirt pockets
Bars are full, quiet,
discussion during commercials
only"
Swap the transistors for smartphones and he could be writing about today.
......
There is an exquisite powerlessness to fandom. To wanting something so bad it consumes your thoughts, soars or shatters your mood, seems to be all that matters, and still, there is nothing you can do.
Or is there?
Knocking on wood, lighting candles, rally caps, rally shoes, lucky jerseys, lucky earrings, lucky Cheetos, lucky seats, switching seats, switching rooms, switching televisions, Etsy witches, pre-game snacks. The team plays better when I watch standing up. The team plays better when I'm there in person. The team plays better when I don't watch. Don't shave, don't change shirts, don't talk about any of it.
We all have superstitions, traditions, charms, prayers, none of them able to alter the outcome one iota.
But, collectively, maybe there's something there? Something to the pure karmic energy created by thousands of desperate fans putting everything into willing an outcome, summoning a hit, a run, an out. Tens, hundreds of thousands of people pushing, metaphorically, psychically, emotionally the same way. Could their force alter a ball's flight? Give a pitch an extra mile per hour or an inch of dip? Cause a short hop?
Nah, that's wishful nonsense.
And then you see Cal Raleigh hit home run 61, a number dripping in baseball history. And it lands, amid an absolute sea of blue and orange Tigers fans, precisely in the glove of the one guy in a teal T-shirt with "Dump 61 Here" printed across it. How does that happen?
A city — almost certainly — cannot will a team to victory. But you can try."
Had to wait a day or so to let my thoughts settle out after that ALCS Game 7 loss. Another good article summed up the pain, and I think this quote could apply to our continued wish for another CU hockey natty:
"Why does it hurt? Because seasons such as this don't happen here. That's not hyperbole.
Until the Mariners drafted and developed one of baseball's best starting rotations. Until Raleigh hit 65 home runs, the most in a regular and postseason in AL history. Until Woo lasted at least six innings in 25 consecutive starts. Until Seattle dealt for Naylor and Suárez at the trade deadline. Until Víctor Robles soared to snag a liner and unseat the Astros. Until a million separate pieces all slid into place.
Even then, it's not enough. Will it ever be?
It came to this, the same consuming question and a new plummet. A further fall than ever before. Another celebration at Seattle's expense.
It had to be Springer. It had to happen in the most eternally tortuous way. It had to be the kind of devastating cruelty that leaves Raleigh — who had already homered — standing on deck.
Baseball, like life, isn't fair.
But you already know that. You're a Mariners fan."
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/the-mariners-most-magical-season-in-recent-memory-was-not-enough-will-it-ever-be/
Quote from: Chris H82 on October 22, 2025, 12:52:45 PMHad to wait a day or so to let my thoughts settle out after that ALCS Game 7 loss. Another good article summed up the pain, and I think this quote could apply to our continued wish for another CU hockey natty:
"Why does it hurt? Because seasons such as this don't happen here. That's not hyperbole.
Until the Mariners drafted and developed one of baseball's best starting rotations. Until Raleigh hit 65 home runs, the most in a regular and postseason in AL history. Until Woo lasted at least six innings in 25 consecutive starts. Until Seattle dealt for Naylor and Suárez at the trade deadline. Until Víctor Robles soared to snag a liner and unseat the Astros. Until a million separate pieces all slid into place.
Even then, it's not enough. Will it ever be?
It came to this, the same consuming question and a new plummet. A further fall than ever before. Another celebration at Seattle's expense.
It had to be Springer. It had to happen in the most eternally tortuous way. It had to be the kind of devastating cruelty that leaves Raleigh — who had already homered — standing on deck.
Baseball, like life, isn't fair.
But you already know that. You're a Mariners fan."
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/the-mariners-most-magical-season-in-recent-memory-was-not-enough-will-it-ever-be/
I'm not a Mariners fan but I was pulling for them and felt their pain.
I was rooting for them, too, especially since the Phillies went @#$%-up.
I can't root for either team that's left.
In the spring of 1964, I was a senior in HS. I rode the 7 train from Queensborough Plaza to Main Street-Flushing as part of an hour and a half subway and bus trip home from HS. A few times that spring, the train was filled with subhuman Mets fans who made it impossible to do any of my homework (usually reading, which was the easiest to do in the subway). I have despised the Mets since then and remained a Yankees fan.
Quote from: ursusminor on October 26, 2025, 02:11:14 PMIn the spring of 1964, I was a senior in HS. I rode the 7 train from Queensborough Plaza to Main Street-Flushing as part of an hour and a half subway and bus trip home from HS. A few times that spring, the train was filled with subhuman Mets fans who made it impossible to any of my homework (usually which was the easiest to do in the subway). I have despised the Mets since then and remained a Yankees fan.
well well well looks like i found another bronx science kid from queens
Quote from: ugarte on October 27, 2025, 05:46:21 PMQuote from: ursusminor on October 26, 2025, 02:11:14 PMIn the spring of 1964, I was a senior in HS. I rode the 7 train from Queensborough Plaza to Main Street-Flushing as part of an hour and a half subway and bus trip home from HS. A few times that spring, the train was filled with subhuman Mets fans who made it impossible to any of my homework (usually which was the easiest to do in the subway). I have despised the Mets since then and remained a Yankees fan.
well well well looks like i found another bronx science kid from queens
Yes. There were not many then. Thankfully, I only had the very lengthy trip on the way home from BHSS. Going there I was driven, by my father as a sophomore and by the father of the only other student from the same JHS as me the other two years.