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Title: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: rss77 on April 05, 2024, 11:09:24 AM
Brown will be a challenge. Not sure when Davis or Wallace will be back this season.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: chimpfood on April 05, 2024, 11:12:54 AM
I'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 05, 2024, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: rss77Brown will be a challenge. Not sure when Davis or Wallace will be back this season.

What happened to Walker Wallace?
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: rss77 on April 05, 2024, 11:40:01 AM
According to the forum on Laxpower he has missed the Penn and SU games
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: scoop85 on April 05, 2024, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

While that may happen, Brown historically gives us fits so I wouldn't count on as comfortable a win as you predict.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: big29red on April 05, 2024, 06:05:42 PM
I believe Wallace was in a boot and on a scooter at the 'Cuse game. Based on that look-I'd say he's possibly done for the year. No idea about Davis- just terrible injury luck for the Red with these key defenders.I don't know if it's the turf, a lot of bad luck, or a combo of both. However, they really need the SSDM to step up, w/o Davis or Bozzi. I really think they need to start to recruit better athletes, at that particular position who are bigger and faster- Davis is the only guy on the roster to fit the bill. There are 3 freshman D-poles who never see the field. They seemed to be high level recruits, not to mention Duke Reeder, a Stanford football transfer who was a 4 star Lax recruit to Cornell- never gets in. Maybe need to turn one or two of them into SSDM's and get some size/speed on the field. We are constantly getting beat in the midfield. Hat's off to Aiden Blake for stepping in, but he is out of position (he is an offensive middie),and it shows.Watching the non Ivy teams, its easy to see the type of athlete they recruit, maybe just easier for them w/ less academic constraints. Princeton, Yale and Penn seem to out recruit us every year, at least on paper! We get a ton of smaller, crafty/speedy players that doesn't always translate to the way the game is played now. Losing Cascadden has been the most serious blow to the team.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: big29redI believe Wallace was in a boot and on a scooter at the 'Cuse game. Based on that look-I'd say he's possibly done for the year. No idea about Davis- just terrible injury luck for the Red with these key defenders.I don't know if it's the turf, a lot of bad luck, or a combo of both. However, they really need the SSDM to step up, w/o Davis or Bozzi. I really think they need to start to recruit better athletes, at that particular position who are bigger and faster- Davis is the only guy on the roster to fit the bill. There are 3 freshman D-poles who never see the field. They seemed to be high level recruits, not to mention Duke Reeder, a Stanford football transfer who was a 4 star Lax recruit to Cornell- never gets in. Maybe need to turn one or two of them into SSDM's and get some size/speed on the field. We are constantly getting beat in the midfield. Hat's off to Aiden Blake for stepping in, but he is out of position (he is an offensive middie),and it shows.Watching the non Ivy teams, its easy to see the type of athlete they recruit, maybe just easier for them w/ less academic constraints. Princeton, Yale and Penn seem to out recruit us every year, at least on paper! We get a ton of smaller, crafty/speedy players that doesn't always translate to the way the game is played now. Losing Cascadden has been the most serious blow to the team.

SSDMs get beat all the time on all teams, not just ours. But the SSDMs can usually determine where they get beat, and that's how to play good defense. If they get beat topside, especially in the direction of the dominant hand of the shooter, it's usually a goal (Penn State about a million times). So if the SSDMs get beat, they need to get beat down the alley so they can get help from the long pole. The SSDM plays with his back to the sideline, lined up on the back foot of the ballcarrier, and drives him down.

On the invert, we've also given up goals from the 5x5 (but also long poles [43]). I'd like to see us slide more often and force the pass rather than giving up easy goals.

I do not buy the high academic standards argument. We've had some of the best lacrosse players at Cornell (Teat, Adler, Pannel). Maybe the most athletic team in recent years has been Yale because they are (or have been) pretty crazy about the weight room. Notre Dame too.

I think it's all about playing the positions well, playing hard, communicating, and so on. We've shown we can do it in quarters and halves. We just need to put together complete defensive games.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: upprdeck on April 06, 2024, 11:00:09 AM
The academic standards thing is real though. Much easier to get kids into some of the other ivies than it is Cornell if the grads are not up to snuff.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 12:07:38 PM
Own goal. How often does that happen?

Brown 1 Cornell 0
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 12:09:26 PM
Bit ragged first two possessions.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 12:17:04 PM
Can't beat the keeper.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 12:21:32 PM
Gilmartin needs to protect the topside.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 12:37:53 PM
Have to stop the high-risk passes.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioHave to stop the high-risk passes.

We're trying to make the perfect passes to the crease attacks. I guess the BrownBear goalie is in our head.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 12:40:53 PM
Shots 28-12 Brown; Knust with 15 saves; gotta turn this around.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 12:46:09 PM
So many questionable skip passes and turnovers.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: scoop85 on April 06, 2024, 12:47:38 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

So with Brown up 5-2, how are your feeling now?
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 12:48:41 PM
I miss Barry.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: chimpfood on April 06, 2024, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

So with Brown up 5-2, how are your feeling now?
I may be an imbecile.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: scoop85 on April 06, 2024, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

So with Brown up 5-2, how are your feeling now?
I may be an imbecile.

Well, you apparently didn't know Brown took Maryland to OT, or that their goalie can steal games.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 01:02:52 PM
Brown beating 1 on 1.  Just one assist on five goals.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 01:07:22 PM
We need to get CJ involved
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: scoop85 on April 06, 2024, 01:15:32 PM
Gilmartin, after getting out of trouble, HAD to get the ball out of his stick. And our inability to win faceoffs is a real problem.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: RichH on April 06, 2024, 01:31:55 PM
Anybody depressed reading this thread and not watching the game, Cornell ended the third on a 5-goal run and leads 10-7.

Knust with 20 saves. Theriot (?) with 13 for Brown.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 01:42:05 PM
chimpfood might be right after all. Underestimate him at your peril.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 01:46:15 PM
BrownBears 7, Cornell 14
6:03 4th
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Ken711 on April 06, 2024, 01:56:02 PM
Final Cornell 14  Brown 8 - Chimpfood for the win
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Ken711 on April 06, 2024, 01:57:24 PM
Cornell with 17 turnovers to Brown's 12 is not good despite the win.  They have a lot of cleaning up to work on.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Robb on April 06, 2024, 01:58:53 PM
I was only able to start watching at the face off right after Cornell tied it at 7.   Seemed like all smooth sailing to me!  :)
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Ken711Cornell with 17 turnovers to Brown's 12 is not good despite the win.  They have a lot of cleaning up to work on.

Not sure why they were so intent on forcing the ball to the crease attack and letting him get swarmed. But all's well that end well.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 06, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
Knust: Schimoler redux
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: RichH on April 06, 2024, 02:03:29 PM
Quote from: RobbI was only able to start watching at the face off right after Cornell tied it at 7.   Seemed like all smooth sailing to me!  :)

Same. Pretty complete 2nd half. Looked good on faceoffs, middies did fine. D seemed good, but Brown had very little possession time.

In no way is this a world-beating juggernaut especially with all the injuries, but they can be dangerous in the tournament, when all cogs are working. Need to get more complete games.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: chimpfood on April 06, 2024, 02:16:05 PM
Never in doubt.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: chimpfood on April 06, 2024, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

So with Brown up 5-2, how are your feeling now?
I may be an imbecile.

Well, you apparently didn't know Brown took Maryland to OT, or that their goalie can steal games.
I knew that, just didn't think they're a very good team.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: scoop85 on April 06, 2024, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm honestly not worried at all. I'd expect us to win by at least 5 and never really struggle.

So with Brown up 5-2, how are your feeling now?
I may be an imbecile.

Well, you apparently didn't know Brown took Maryland to OT, or that their goalie can steal games.
I knew that, just didn't think they're a very good team.

Well the "never really struggle" part wasn't accurate, but your prediction on the scoring margin was on point.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: mike1960 on April 06, 2024, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: RobbI was only able to start watching at the face off right after Cornell tied it at 7.   Seemed like all smooth sailing to me!  :)

Same. Pretty complete 2nd half. Looked good on faceoffs, middies did fine. D seemed good, but Brown had very little possession time.

In no way is this a world-beating juggernaut especially with all the injuries, but they can be dangerous in the tournament, when all cogs are working. Need to get more complete games.

The next game will tell us a lot.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: billhoward on April 06, 2024, 03:09:57 PM
Quote from: RichH... when all cogs are working. Need to get more complete games.
Or need more games played second-half-only.
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Cornell95 on April 06, 2024, 03:13:39 PM
I went to the online roster during the SU game, and I think the guy in the boot using the scooter was Kephart
havent spotted Wallace on the sideline, although not actively looking for him
Title: Re: Men's Lax: Brown at CU 4/6/24
Post by: Trotsky on April 07, 2024, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: chimpfoodNever in doubt.
LOL.  Well played.