Since I don't want to have to dig through it in the "Opponents and Others" thread, I'm starting a thread for non-Cornell discussion of this year's NCAAs.
I thought it was interesting that Michigan Tech is the #16 seed and looked back to see when else it's happened that #16 has not been from Atlantic Hockey, College Hockey America, or the MAAC.
2017 Michigan Tech (WCHA) https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/2017
2021* Notre Dame (Big T7n) https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/2021
2024 Michigan Tech (CCHA) https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/2024
So I guess technically we can say this is the first time #16 has come from the CCHA.
I am definitely hoping for a "Michigan Tech homer call" moment on Friday.
Today's Games (all times ET):
02:00 Denver vs UMass
04:00 BU vs RIT
05:30 Cornell vs Maine
07:30 Minnesota vs UNO
Quote from: TrotskyToday's Games (all times ET):
02:00 Denver vs UMass
04:00 BU vs RIT
05:30 Cornell vs Maine
07:30 Minnesota vs UNO
I still hate that the regionals start on Thursday now.
I think the times are off for the games in SD those are CT not ET
No goals for anyone but a strong first period for UMass. Denver more dynamic but UMass a steadier drip drip drip of pressure. Neither goalie had to do anything heroic afaict.
Thats Denvers game. Not really control play but so quick on mistakes for goals.
1-1 after 2. Both goals from mucking around the crease on rebounds.
Quote from: ugarte1-1 after 2. Both goals from mucking around the crease on rebounds.
This is the type of game UMASS was hoping for. I'd give them the edge in the 3rd.
UMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.
Quote from: ugarteUMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.
heading to OT. nobody really getting good chances. this is going to end ugly for someone.
Fasc and Furious still hasn't cut over to a pregame, I guess we're delayed (60 mins?) by game 1.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteUMass PP with 6:54 left, still tied at 1.
heading to OT. nobody really getting good chances. this is going to end ugly for someone.
UMass giveaway right in front of the net almost cost them but we're 15 minutes into OT and still going.
Anyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?
Quote from: abmarksAnyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?
ESPN on-air crew quoted 1 hour.
Quote from: abmarksAnyone know how long they leave between end of game 1 and start of our game? It's for to be at least 40 minutes minimum, but is it an hour usually?
In Lake Placid it was 60.
Headed to 2OT. Gotta win to take advantage of tired legs... that never seem demonstrably tired in the playoffs the next day tbh, probably due to adrenaline.
Based on the intermission look-in at BU-RIT, BU might score 10.
BU up on RIT 2-0, 13 minutes in. Two quick ones.
Denver wins in 2 OT. Should be a 7 ET start for the Cornell/Maine game
Holy cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.
the 4th BU goal was so patient and pretty
Quote from: ugarteHoly cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.
Ugh. BU comes right back. 4-2, 3 mins left in second.
Quote from: jeff '84Quote from: ugarteHoly cow RIT cuts it to 3-2, 4:39 left in the second.
Ugh. BU comes right back. 4-2, 3 mins left in second.
One moment of lack of hustle from an RIT forward.
Quote from: ugartethe 4th BU goal was so patient and pretty
I don't know what the one RIT backchecker was doing on that one. He was kind of coasting behind Celebrini instead of actively going after him. Obviously BU is the quicker team but I found that odd
We're at the presumptive pregame mark, but Goebbels's Gerbils are still happily burbling their Nazi inanities.
Umass was the better team there.
But just as I say that they blow the swastika on the Reichstag, and the Voice of Treason gives way to, ironically, Jason Weinstein.
Maine starting their senior goalie, not their hot frosh with better stats, who has played the last 9.
Wallace flip flops back in for Mosko.
Quote from: TrotskyMaine starting their senior goalie, not their hot frosh with better stats, who has played the last 9.
Word is he's sick.
1-1 between BC and Michigan Tech in the 1st. Michigan Tech with one of the best PK's I've seen this year with a SHG included
Quote from: Iceberg1-1 between BC and Michigan Tech in the 1st. Michigan Tech with one of the best PK's I've seen this year with a SHG included
MTU won the opening draw and had a great scoring opportunity then BC took the puck up ice and scored on their first possession.
Tied late 1st
Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.
Some nasty stuff going on in BC game, with a nasty hit to the head by a Tech player on a BC player, followed by the closest you'll see to a fight in college hockey. BC ahead 5-1 midway through the third period.
Quote from: sah67Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.
He has looked quite good this game
Quote from: sah67Jack Malone has the primary assists on BC's 2nd and 3rd goals. BC leading 3-1 almost halfway through the third.
It was briefly 4-1 when a BC dump into the zone caromed off a ref directly into the Tech net as the Tech goalie was starting to head for the wall where the puck should've been. Apparently - and I didn't know this - a goal being scored directly off a ref is the one time when an exception can be made to the "officials are part of the playing surface" rule, so they waved off the goal, and to BC's credit they didn't protest.
Of course they then scored another fourth goal shortly thereafter, and a 6-1 final means it wouldn't have mattered much anyway.
Plenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
Q goes up early against Bucky Badger, 1-0
Quote from: imafrshmnPlenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.
Quote from: dbilmesSome nasty stuff going on in BC game, with a nasty hit to the head by a Tech player on a BC player, followed by the closest you'll see to a fight in college hockey.
The closest now. The closest I've seen to a fight in college hockey was a full-on line brawl at Matthews in the late 80s. I don't recall the opponent. It was gloves dropped, helmets off, all five pairs. The goalies demurred.
IINM all ten were tossed and both coaches got suspended.
Alaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: imafrshmnPlenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.
Switched back to see it's 1-1.
Quinnipiac is skating circles around Wisconsin and is holding a 1-0 lead after 1.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: imafrshmnPlenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.
Switched back to see it's 1-1.
MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.
Quote from: arugulaAlaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.
I saw that box. More penalty minutes than the Cornell-Union game that included the height of stupidity established by Leeor Shtrom (And then- And THEN- ).
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: imafrshmnPlenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.
Switched back to see it's 1-1.
MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.
WMU gets a PPG and then a minute or so later scores again to go up 3-2. ~5:00 left in the second period.
Wisco ties up Q just after Q power play expires.
Edit: Make it 2-1 Wisco.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: imafrshmnPlenty of empty seats in Maryland Heights, outside of St. Louis, Missouri, at the Centene Community Ice Center (2500 capacity) for Michigan State vs. Western Michigan.
1-0 WMU after 1. They are playing aggressive and MSU is on their heels.
Switched back to see it's 1-1.
MSU wins a draw and blasts a shot from the blueline to take a 2-1 lead.
WMU gets a PPG and then a minute or so later scores again to go up 3-2. ~5:00 left in the second period.
WMU bangs one in after winning an offensive zone draw to go up 4-2 and they take that lead into the second intermission.
shocked to see that wisconsin has the lead after that first period.
Announcers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.
Quote from: BeeeejAnnouncers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.
*the world's longest sigh*
meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejAnnouncers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.
*the world's longest sigh*
meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard
And that PP looked like crap.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejAnnouncers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.
*the world's longest sigh*
meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard
Does make you wonder what would have happened if the Ivy allowed grad transfers. We'd probably have both on our team this season. On the other hand, Castagna would have probably played a year of junior hockey instead of enrolling as a true freshman.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejAnnouncers in the Q-Wisco game just name-checked/praised Schafer for being such a good coach that Tupker and Malone have been able to fit in so well and contribute so effectively on Quinnipiac and BC respectively.
*the world's longest sigh*
meanwhile Q about to start a PP after a beautiful pass set up a shot at an open net and the purest clang off the post i think i've ever heard
And that PP looked like crap.
Next PP looked better, though still fruitless. Shortly after the PP, though, Q won a draw clean, got a shot off, and then a guy with an eyechart on his back potted the rebound with ~1:30 left in the second. 2-2 after 2.
And 2-2 after 2 in Providence.
They said it was Tupker who won the draw. Grrrr.
MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.
Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn't leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.
Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn't leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.
And somehow left a guy WIDE open in front of the net on a fairly innocuous zone entry
Q-Bucky in OT is such a win-win for me. Either the ECAC wins or Q loses. Happy either way.
Quote from: RobbQ-Bucky in OT is such a win-win for me. Either the ECAC wins or Q loses. Happy either way.
I'd call it a lose-lose. Either qpac wins or everyone says our conference sucks. Oh well. Go Wisconsin
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82MSU pulls the goalie and ties it up. 4-4 with 30 secs left. Going to OT.
Tough break for WMU, the played a smart possession game pinned in the MSU end so the goalie couldn't leave until just over a minute remained. One big transition play and Sparty was able to tie it.
And somehow left a guy WIDE open in front of the net on a fairly innocuous zone entry
That's what I found astonishing
Wisconsin is a solid defensive team with some strong players, but now they have a PK in overtime
Bye bye Bucky.
Great game, I'm satisfied with a Q win.
Well, the ECAC team won!!
Quote from: chimpfoodGreat game, I'm satisfied with a Q win.
They're gonna lose to BC anyway. So I'm OK with the ECAC getting another win.
I would love for them to upset BC.
Quote from: chimpfoodGreat game, I'm satisfied with a Q win.
Q hit another post then Wisconsin fell asleep on a diagonal pass from blueline to blueline, easy zone entry, centered to a guy skating in on the goalie and someone nominated for the Richter got pantsed and sent home.
Quote from: ugarteQ hit another post then Wisconsin fell asleep on a diagonal pass from blueline to blueline, easy zone entry, centered to a guy skating in on the goalie and someone nominated for the Richter got pantsed and sent home.
They got caught a bad change and the game is over just like that. Q/BC should be a good one
Still crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.
Quote from: ERI would love for them to upset BC.
You want to dream? Us versus Q in the national final.
I would love to face Michigan. Little household rivalry.
So far the only upsets in the tournament are by the ECAC schools.
Coincidence? Or a flaw in the pairwise?
Quote from: ERI would love for them to upset BC.
I hate having to root for BC.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ERI would love for them to upset BC.
You want to dream? Us versus Q in the national final.
Nightmare. Please no.
Quinnipiac winning would typically really blow. Especially since I was really hoping BC got upset, but now I'll have to root for them next round. Despite all this, the damage was already done when Q won last year. Can't go back on that now. Diminishing marginal pain from Q winning again.
Quote from: pjd8Quote from: arugulaAlaska Arizona State earlier this month. A full on brawl.
I saw that box. More penalty minutes than the Cornell-Union game that included the height of stupidity established by Leeor Shtrom (And then- And THEN- ).
The video is astonishing. Disgraceful.
I'm confused. Wasn't there all this talk about demand for the Maryland Heights regional greatly outstripping the supply (2,500 seats)? But 2/3 of the seats are empty for UMich-NoDak.
Quote from: BearLoverI'm confused. Wasn't there all this talk about demand for the Maryland Heights regional greatly outstripping the supply (2,500 seats)? But 2/3 of the seats are empty for UMich-NoDak.
There is zero doubt NoDak fans would fill any building there is - even on the moon. Most likely it was just impossible logistically to actually get the tickets.
That is a terrible font ESPN is using for the clock.
Ian Shane goes for career win # 50 tomorrow.
[b]W L T[/b]
Dryden 78 4 1
Scrivens 65 37 13
McKee 65 24 13
Galajda 60 14 9
Iles 58 42 17
Cropper 51 5 0
Shane 49 20 10
Brian Cropper at 51-5-0 is unreal. Then you look at Ken Dryden's record....
Quote from: TrotskyIan Shane goes for career win # 50 tomorrow.
[b]W L T[/b]
Dryden 78 4 1
Scrivens 65 37 13
McKee 65 24 13
Galajda 60 14 9
Iles 58 42 17
Cropper 51 5 0
Shane 49 20 10
seeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.
Quote from: upprdeckseeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.
Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.
Quote from: jtwcornell91That is a terrible font ESPN is using for the clock.
There's something weird about the clock. In the first game in Missouri, you could see it shaking every so often. I think the network pointed a camera at the video-board clock, like they used to do in the 80s. That's one way to ensure your broadcast graphic is synced with the game clock.
Quote from: chimpfoodStill crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.
What's the richter? You mean the National Ken Dryden award? That's what it should be called.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: chimpfoodStill crazy to me how bad Shane got shafted on the richter. Having Mbereko over him is heinous.
What's the richter? You mean the National Ken Dryden award? That's what it should be called.
Maybe it's the Richter scale which measures how much the clock is shaking. :-D
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This is the day
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZYgKCbFbWY
Flaw in Pairwise. Late start for Ivy League reduces chance for quality wins in whole ECAC. And the results of early Ivy non-conference games often reflect the 3-week disparity in experience for those teams. Thus, every Ivy team ends up clawing their way up from #42 in Pairwise and every loss within the league is by definition a terrible loss. That's why a fast Ivy start - like Cornell's 4-0 - is critical to getting into the Top 15.
But that still doesn't excuse lossess to Harvard, Princeton, Colgate...... that's due to Cornell's preferred style of play. Increased emphasis on defense & shot-blocking - at the expense of letting your freshmen develop on offense - keeps games low-scoring and close. Which is a huge benefit aganist teams that might be better than you (e.g. 7-1-2 vs. ranked teams). But might not be so great when playing an inferior opponent ranked #42 in Pairwise.....
I can't excuse them for their wins against BU, Quinnipiac, and Maine. Inexpiable.
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Today is my birthday.
Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...
... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: TrotskyThis is the day
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This is the day
When things fall into place
Today is my birthday.
Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...
... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.
We all care! Happy Birthday and let's hope history repeats itself.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckseeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.
Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.
Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!
Quote from: George64Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckseeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.
Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.
Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!
Think Dryden was a skater in the varsity-freshman game. Ned didn't want to discourage his varsity.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: George64Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckseeing the loss numbers for Dryden and Cropper is just so insane.
Galajda also insane. He would have the all time wins record if not for COVID.
Dryden and Cropper only played varsity for three years, too. I saw one freshmen game where Ken played forward. It was abundantly clear why he was a goalie!
Think Dryden was a skater in the varsity-freshman game. Ned didn't want to discourage his varsity.
RPI's freshmen defeated the varsity that year, and the varsity went on to a 3-19 record with no wins and many drubbings from D-I schools. Ned was indeed wise especially considering the RPI game vs Cornell was only 5-2. :) https://sports-chronicles.com/rpih/pages/results_by_season#1965-66 In case anyone looks, Penn was a club team that year.
Today is a great day to break a curse. Set your altars, light your candles, do whatever rituals you need to do to get right. Let's do this!
For the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).
Quote from: imafrshmnFor the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).
So what happened to the other 37% of tickets? Weren't tickets going for $2000?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: imafrshmnFor the ticket counters out there: reported attendance for yesterday's Missouri regional games (MSU-WMU,NoDak-UMich) was a COMBINED 3148, which would be about 63% of capacity).
So what happened to the other 37% of tickets? Weren't tickets going for $2000?
Ok i made a mistake in interpretation. 3148 was the official capacity for the venue as they were able to add additional seating for this event. So this was in fact a "sellout" in ticketing terms. But each school was only allotted 400 tickets... it's possible that many of the remaining 1548 seats were bought up by scalpers hoping to capitalize on the high demand, but maybe they miscalculated on that front...
The upshot was a rink that was about 50% full for both games, so certainly a raw deal for these teams and their fans.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: TrotskyThis is the day
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This is the day
When things fall into place
Today is my birthday.
Not that anyone should care, except that... the only other time Cornell has ever played a game on my birthday was...
... the 2003 quarterfinal win over BC.
We all care! Happy Birthday and let's hope history repeats itself.
I'll take birthday luck as another weapon in the arsenal. Happy, happy birthday!
Quote from: Faithful84But that still doesn't excuse lossess to Harvard, Princeton, Colgate...... that's due to Cornell's preferred style of play..
And those teams knowing what it takes to beat Cornell
Who decided to let Dick Vitale do the play-by-play in the BU-Minnesota game?
Here's a question: based on the boards, it looked like UMass and AIC were the co-hosts of the Springfield regional. What happens if AIC beats RIT in the AHA final?* There's no way they send two four-band teams to play in Springfield, right?
*Do not say "according to YATC an AIC win would have eliminated UMass" even if it is true.
AIC couldn't have gone to Springfield since the site is their home rink. They probably would've played BU or BC
Quote from: IcebergAIC couldn't have gone to Springfield since the site is their home rink. They probably would've played BU or BC
interesting! i guess they shared some of the administrative burden and revenue from hosting?
Quote from: ugarteinteresting! i guess they shared some of the administrative burden and revenue from hosting?
That I don't know and someone more knowledgeable like the brother Wodon could probably answer that. What I do know is that BU won and we could've seen a matchup with them and Cornell in the FF. Alas...
Tukper with a penalty and Jack Malone has a high stick goal that is immediately waived off. BC challenges and the no goal call stands. Duplessis made an amazing save before that sequence to keep it scoreless.
Malone sends BC to the Frozen Four. Wow
order is restored in the universe
Quote from: IcebergMalone sends BC to the Frozen Four. Wow
If anyone were to get the game winner, glad it was Malone
QU was probably the better team today, but I would've had a hard time stomaching them getting back to the FF. And what better way than for a Cornellian to end their season.
Rooting for Michigan St. to win it all - team I dislike the least out of the remaining teams lol
Quote from: IcebergMalone sends BC to the Frozen Four. Wow
The greatest transfer if this is the result.
Fuck Rand and his ECHL program masquerading as an educational institution. Bye bye.
Great game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: IcebergMalone sends BC to the Frozen Four. Wow
The greatest transfer if this is the result.
Fuck Rand and his ECHL program masquerading as an educational institution. Bye bye.
Yeah, no tears from me. Somehow their guy Fillion missed a wide open net that would've made it 5-3 and pretty much sealed the game. Seems like something that would happen to us in the quarterfinals.
Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Ahem. Michigan's band plays 2 songs on repeat and is generally annoying, and automatons, but fine sound-wise. We have the best band, except for the recent things Greg detailed recently.
The Battle of Michigan is a great game. 2-2 halfway through the third.
Quote from: ugarteThe Battle of Michigan is a great game. 2-2 halfway through the third.
goodf lord Michigan scores a pair 12 seconds apart and is up 4-2. the first of two was a great individual play and the second was set up by an incredibly sick pass.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteThe Battle of Michigan is a great game. 2-2 halfway through the third.
goodf lord Michigan scores a pair 12 seconds apart and is up 4-2. the first of two was a great individual play and the second was set up by an incredibly sick pass.
oh man 2:30 to go and MSU gets called for a slash a million times worse than the Walsh call and Michigan scores off the draw to seal it.
Talk about deja vu: MSU down late, trying to get a goal and gets called for a somewhat suspect slash (although a bit more obvious than Walsh's penalty) with 2 minutes left.
I'm not sure that was worse than the Walsh call, much easier to call it when a stick breaks.
Quote from: chimpfoodI'm not sure that was worse than the Walsh call, much easier to call it when a stick breaks.
yeah the stick broke but he was also playing the puck! it was right under the stick.
Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Springfield was just as bad. Someone needs to tell these AHL rinks that we want to hear the band(s), not their piped in noise.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Springfield was just as bad. Someone needs to tell these AHL rinks that we want to hear the band(s), not their piped in noise.
It was terrible at Springfield, especially when Maine played Cornell and both teams had their pep bands there. Part of what is supposed to make the NCAA tournament special is the atmosphere, and pep bands are a big part of creating that atmosphere. They kept playing canned crap over the PA system and hardly gave the bands a chance to play.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Springfield was just as bad. Someone needs to tell these AHL rinks that we want to hear the band(s), not their piped in noise.
Tell Denver to send a band, too.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Springfield was just as bad. Someone needs to tell these AHL rinks that we want to hear the band(s), not their piped in noise.
It was terrible at Springfield, especially when Maine played Cornell and both teams had their pep bands there. Part of what is supposed to make the NCAA tournament special is the atmosphere, and pep bands are a big part of creating that atmosphere. They kept playing canned crap over the PA system and hardly gave the bands a chance to play.
I dashed off an email to their rink staff that made me feel better, but it may be time to start a campaign or association. I'm serious.
Very blue-blood FF this year and half the teams were in it last year with a third having made an appearance in 2022. So much for national parity
DU, UMich, BC, BU. Does the blood get any bluer? The two western teams with the most championships and the two eastern teams with the most championships.
Yawn.
Quote from: RobbDU, UMich, BC, BU. Does the blood get any bluer? The two western teams with the most championships and the two eastern teams with the most championships.
Yawn.
Take a look at what's going on in the transfer portal right now and you'll see where all the parity went.
Quote from: RobbDU, UMich, BC, BU. Does the blood get any bluer? The two western teams with the most championships and the two eastern teams with the most championships.
Yawn.
Minnesota for Denver (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_Tournament/ncaa_F4_Appearances.htm) would be bluer.
Go Pioneers. Least objectionable of the F4, with a fine Cornell history.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbDU, UMich, BC, BU. Does the blood get any bluer? The two western teams with the most championships and the two eastern teams with the most championships.
Yawn.
Minnesota for Denver (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_Tournament/ncaa_F4_Appearances.htm) would be bluer.
Go Pioneers. Least objectionable of the F4, with a fine Cornell history.
Yep. That's where I stand, too.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbDU, UMich, BC, BU. Does the blood get any bluer? The two western teams with the most championships and the two eastern teams with the most championships.
Yawn.
Minnesota for Denver (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_Tournament/ncaa_F4_Appearances.htm) would be bluer.
Go Pioneers. Least objectionable of the F4, with a fine Cornell history.
Yep. That's where I stand, too.
Perplexed by the objection to BC? Can you explain. I hate DU.
They always had a "Holier than thou" attitude about not recruiting players from Canada.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82They always had a "Holier than thou" attitude about not recruiting players from Canada.
Why qualify it? Their sanctimony is universal.
It is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group. As to not recruiting in Canada, if you have New England, why bother? I don't see that as sanctimony I see it as realpolitik.
I'm more regionally biased. I pretty much hate all the western schools and BU and of course our league rivals.
Quote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Opinions vary.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
This sort of thing gets weirder in more remote parts of the country.
The Sioux Falls fancy private school is Augustana (new to D1 hockey!). I really, really don't like to play the "I went to Cornell, maybe you've heard of it" card, but it's awfully tempting when someone looks down their nose at me because they went to Augustana.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Opinions vary.
Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
This sort of thing gets weirder in more remote parts of the country.
The Sioux Falls fancy private school is Augustana (new to D1 hockey!). I really, really don't like to play the "I went to Cornell, maybe you've heard of it" card, but it's awfully tempting when someone looks down their nose at me because they went to Augustana.
It wouldn't mean anything to them. Cornell's cachet falls off with the square of the distance from Ithaca. By Iowa we might as well be Rutgers.
Quote from: Chris '03But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.
Ah, but those are kids who self-selected to go to BC. They were but temporarily exiled from their true home. Essence precedes existence.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
This sort of thing gets weirder in more remote parts of the country.
The Sioux Falls fancy private school is Augustana (new to D1 hockey!). I really, really don't like to play the "I went to Cornell, maybe you've heard of it" card, but it's awfully tempting when someone looks down their nose at me because they went to Augustana.
It wouldn't mean anything to them. Cornell's cache falls off with the square of the distance from Ithaca. By Iowa we might as well be Rutgers.
Cornell College in Iowa doesn't help, either.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Opinions vary.
Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.
Correct. BC is a national school.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
This sort of thing gets weirder in more remote parts of the country.
The Sioux Falls fancy private school is Augustana (new to D1 hockey!). I really, really don't like to play the "I went to Cornell, maybe you've heard of it" card, but it's awfully tempting when someone looks down their nose at me because they went to Augustana.
It wouldn't mean anything to them. Cornell's cachet falls off with the square of the distance from Ithaca. By Iowa we might as well be Rutgers.
When I attended the quarterfinals at DU in 86, was asked about Iowa and Cornell College 20 times
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
Wow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
Wow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
I don't put much stock in rankings but according to the latest us news, BC is higher than among others, NYU,Wisconsin, Tufts,BU, Lehigh, Rochester, William and Mary, Brandeis, GW. It's not Quinnipiac.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
Wow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
I don't put much stock in rankings but according to the latest us news, BC is higher than among others, NYU,Wisconsin, Tufts,BU, Lehigh, Rochester, William and Mary, Brandeis, GW. It's not Quinnipiac.
And just behind USC and Texas.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: arugulaQuote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
Wow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
I don't put much stock in rankings but according to the latest us news, BC is higher than among others, NYU,Wisconsin, Tufts,BU, Lehigh, Rochester, William and Mary, Brandeis, GW. It's not Quinnipiac.
And just behind USC and Texas.
I always thought that the safety school chant was only funny if yelled at Yale or Harvard.
Quote from: arugulaWow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill. Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).
As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring
I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.
BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied. The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.
And that's fine. Not everybody has to be Goethe. The world needs finance bros too.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Opinions vary.
Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.
For what it's worth, BC's Class of 2026 is purportedly only 29.25% New Englanders (couldn't tell you about Bostonians in particular) and 30.45% from the Mid-Atlantic states: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/common-data-set.html
Meanwhile, Cornell's Class of 2025 is 31.7% from New York State alone (plus another 18.6% from the other Mid-Atlantic states): https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Profile2021-first-year.pdf
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaWow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill. Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).
As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.
BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied. The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.
And that's fine. Not everybody has to be Goethe. The world needs finance bros too.
Ok but still not clear why BC fans are so annoying.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
IIRC, BC was the one Jesuit college that didn't take in displaced students from Loyola University New Orleans in Fall 2005 after Katrina.
Quote from: WillQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
I don't like BC either but agree with basically none of this. The BC SUPERFAN is an intolerable bandwagon stereotype.
Opinions vary.
Yes. Opinions vary. But BC kids being likely to be local isn't true. I'd bet Cornell has more NYers than BC has kids from Mass. as a point of comparison.
For what it's worth, BC's Class of 2026 is purportedly only 29.25% New Englanders (couldn't tell you about Bostonians in particular) and 30.45% from the Mid-Atlantic states: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/common-data-set.html
Meanwhile, Cornell's Class of 2025 is 31.7% from New York State alone (plus another 18.6% from the other Mid-Atlantic states): https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Profile2021-first-year.pdf
Not a fair comparison, since much of Cornell is a NY State institution.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaIt is? I've been following college hockey for forty years (oy vey!). Never experienced it from the BC group.
40 years here, too. It is.
It's primarily the self-absorption of Bostonians. BC students are likely to be locals. BU gets a large contingent of kids who didn't get into Ivies, so the solution of Boston Idiocy has been diluted.
But BC also carries itself with an inbred entitlement which its real world standing in no way warrants. BC is Duke for the physically unattractive.
IIRC, BC was the one Jesuit college that didn't take in displaced students from Loyola University New Orleans in Fall 2005 after Katrina.
Now that's bad.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaWow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill. Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).
As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.
BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied. The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.
And that's fine. Not everybody has to be Goethe. The world needs finance bros too.
Ok but still not clear why BC fans are so annoying.
you have to understand that greg processes the world through a cumulation of prejudices and loathings - no subject too small, no umbrage too large - and has no idea how crazy it sounds to third parties when he turns on the opinion hose. most people just nod as they back away and i do this.
the actual hockey, though, he gets right as often as i do.
Quote from: ugarteyou have to understand that greg processes the world through a cumulation of prejudices and loathings - no subject too small, no umbrage too large - and has no idea how crazy it sounds to third parties when he turns on the opinion hose. most people just nod as they back away and i do this.
the actual hockey, though, he gets right as often as i do.
This guy gets it.
Classy response, Greg.
Quote from: Tom_HamillClassy response, Greg.
we've been at this for a while. we know each other's deal.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaWow. Ad hominem much? My experience on bc's campus was a good looking group. My experience with people who call others physically unattractive is they generally should buy a mirror.
Ad hom is attacking the poster. I was attacking the people of Chestnut Hill. Obviously, any friend or blood relative of yours who has attended BC is stunningly beautiful, and would be a New England 10 and a North Carolina... let's say... 6 (ebullient praise is one thing but let's not get carried away).
As for the mirror comment, if you are inferring I am in any way the standard of typical BC pulchritude, things there are in worse shape that any of us feared.
BC is like many monied schools academically: the jocks are rockheads and the regular student body is... varied. The same can be said for Texas, Stanford, and dare I say Cornell itself.
And that's fine. Not everybody has to be Goethe. The world needs finance bros too.
Needs? What - are the poors hungry again?
Quote from: RobbQuote from: TrotskyThe world needs finance bros too.
Needs? What - are the poors hungry again?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbQuote from: TrotskyThe world needs finance bros too.
Needs? What - are the poors hungry again?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer. I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbQuote from: TrotskyThe world needs finance bros too.
Needs? What - are the poors hungry again?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer. I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.
I'm just glad there still are union organizers.
Is ILR wholly owned by Amazon now?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbQuote from: TrotskyThe world needs finance bros too.
Needs? What - are the poors hungry again?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Fwiw my friend the BC grad is a union organizer. I guess that's the opposite of a finance bro. A bit closer to the Jesuit tradition.
I'm just glad there still are union organizers.
Is ILR wholly owned by Amazon now?
ILR actually has extensive training programs for labor leaders and organizers.
https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/worker-institute/training
Correct. Ives is corporate but the extension programs are heavily union based. I am a union lawyer and when I was at ILR in the 80s I think it was more corporate.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ERGreat game but the piped on music is awful. Are we at a baseball stadium? Michigan has the best band. Where are they?
Springfield was just as bad. Someone needs to tell these AHL rinks that we want to hear the band(s), not their piped in noise.
Tell Denver to send a band, too.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/how-a-high-school-pep-band-played-the-university-of-denver-s-men-s-hockey-team-to-an-ncaa-victory-209858117916