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The first ten minutes of this game are going to be fascinating.

Quote from: TrotskyThe first ten minutes of this game are going to be fascinating.

Just don't let up after twenty minutes like last night.  That's too long to try and sit on a lead.

Schafer's brief comments on game 1:

"We had a good first 30 minutes and did a pretty good job in the second period, and by the third period, we didn't start poorly, but the goal they got to make it 4-2, they got some push. We handled it okay at times and we didn't handle it okay, but the guys know we can be better than we were tonight," said Mike Schafer '86, the Jay R. Bloom '77 Head Coach of Cornell Men's Ice Hockey. "Especially when we got the lead, we stopped moving our feet defensively and offensively, and on the forecheck, we didn't stay aggressive and play with poise. We'll be better tomorrow night."

Harvard had something to do with that.

Goebbels gibberish on the Voice of Treason.

By my count, this is the 2,150th game in Cornell history.

Mike on pregame: "as soon as it went 4-nothing we got loose."

Crowd in full voice.  Somewhere, Mrs. Laing Kennedy shakes her umbrella at me.

Great start.  3 minutes of angry hornets.

Major pp.

Better score on the major or momentum (whatever that is) shifts.

If I never see another power play...

That was the best pp I have ever seen that did not score.  We must have had 8 grade A chances.

Quote from: VIEWfromKIf I never see another power play...

that was a pretty good one in terms of chances not so much in terms of testing mulahy. gotta put it on net.

That wasn't a bad power play; team just wasn't able to convert

If we keep playing like this we will win this game.

Quote from: VIEWfromKIf I never see another power play...

we'd have missed that pretty play!

16-17-21

Harvard first period shots on goal:

2.

Quote from: TrotskyHarvard first period shots on goal:

2.

Last night it was 4.  Then...::worry::

Just can't let up one bit.

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Quote from: VIEWfromKIf I never see another power play...

we'd have missed that pretty play!

16-17-21

Scoring off the rush is nice.  It doesn't make up for the poor design of a power play that begins and ends below the goal line.  It continues to be too complicated.  I hope that I'm wrong.

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Quote from: TrotskyHarvard first period shots on goal:

2.

Last night it was 4.  Then...::worry::

Just can't let up one bit.

It's an elimination game and we know that.  And Mike probably peeled the paint off the walls last night.

Union up 2-1 at Hanover.

The Legend of Jack O'Leary.

SLU now leading 2-1 at Hamilton, looking to sweep.

Psenicka and Kraft are everywhere tonight.

And Walsh has been the faceoff guy tonight, not Seger or Castagna.

Greasy goal.

Quote from: TrotskyGreasy goal.

We'll take it.

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Quote from: TrotskyGreasy goal.

We'll take it.

We love it.

RPI ties up Q at the end of the 2nd
Union-Dartmouth also tied

Grady almost gave me a heart attack, saying the Lake Placid Final was on Sunday.  It is on saturday.  Geez.

Quote from: ugarteRPI ties up Q at the end of the 2nd
Union-Dartmouth also tied

Are we currently the only home team leading?

Kill Schafer Kill

Schafer got on Arthur's mic to tell the student section to knock it off with the endless "Fuck you ___insert Harvard player name___" chants.

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Quote from: ugarteRPI ties up Q at the end of the 2nd
Union-Dartmouth also tied

Are we currently the only home team leading?

Yep.

Man, that Castagna play.  That guy is such a beautiful player.

It has been a long time since Mike has had to do that.

The crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And the fact that somebody started the wave last night and was not immediately hospitalized tells you of the erosion of the moral fiber of our backbone.  Jesus fuck, next they'll be singing Chelsea Dagger.  :-(

Quote from: Trotsky.Jesus fuck, next they'll be singing Chelsea Dagger.  :-(

Someone tried to start a "DE-FENSE" chant in one of the townie sections earlier in the season but it was promptly and mercifully quashed.

Quote from: TrotskyIt has been a long time since Mike has had to do that.

The crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And the fact that somebody started the wave last night and was not immediately hospitalized tells you of the erosion of the moral fiber of our backbone.  Jesus fuck, next they'll be singing Chelsea Dagger.  :-(

At least they showed up. My recent memory is fuzzy, but this is the fullest I've seen Lynah for a QF series in quite some time.

Bandwagon bodies are still bodies.

Colgate ppg. 3 games at 2-2 and ours.

Quote from: TrotskyThe crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And now we get a third period fish thrown and a "Season's over" chant with a full period to play.

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Quote from: TrotskyThe crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And now we get a third period fish thrown and a "Season's over" chant with a full period to play.

Frat boys gonna frat.

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Great start of the third period.

Sphincter time

SLUt ahead of toothpaste 3-2 with 6 mins left

All first game winners now lead by 1.

What the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

3-2 SLUt final.  Colgate eliminated.

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '823-2 SLUt final.  Colgate eliminated.

Easily the most shocking result. I don't think anyone had Colgate getting swept

SLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

And Q.

Yes, sir.

Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

LFGR!

i never remember if ecac reseeds for LP.

Thank you Seger.

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Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

LFGR!

i never remember if ecac reseeds for LP.

Yes.

And another!

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Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

LFGR!

i never remember if ecac reseeds for LP.

They do.

We get Darmouth.

Quote from: TrotskyThank you Seger.

i love this final score line

Ok i can relax now

CU in LP

Harvard guys on the handshake line showing Shane a ton of respect.

Thank god... after they kicked me out, Garry glitter in lake placid will be the loudest it's ever been

Most impressive was the lack of penalties for the Big Red.

Quote from: ugarteHarvard guys on the handshake line showing Shane a ton of respect.

Because he freakin' deserves it !!!

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Quote from: ugarteHarvard guys on the handshake line showing Shane a ton of respect.

Because he freakin' deserves it !!!

It's not often they call on him to be it but Shane was their best player all weekend.

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Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

LFGR!

i never remember if ecac reseeds for LP.

Pretty sure high plays low, and the two middles (Cornell, Dartmouth) play. I'm also pretty certain the top seed used to get its pick or early or late game, always chose early, so the high remaining seed gets assigned the 4 pm Friday game. More time for Cornell fans to drive up.

Much better first period even if it didnt lead to a big lead.  Better 2nd as well.

Then we reverted to chasing plays again, but not nearly at the level of Fridays game.

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Quote from: TrotskySLU and Dartmouth have advanced.

LFGR!

i never remember if ecac reseeds for LP.

Pretty sure high plays low, and the two middles (Cornell, Dartmouth) play. I'm also pretty certain the top seed used to get its pick or early or late game, always chose early, so the high remaining seed gets assigned the 4 pm Friday game. More time for Cornell fans to drive up.

Correct on both counts.

Does playing Dartmouth after Harvard still count as a trap game even with six days to prepare?

Wish it had happened last night.  The student section was a little too rowdy tonight and needs to relearn some of the chants from the list on elynah.  At some point we are actually going to get a penalty for the period change over fish throwing, but the students don't think the refs will do it.  I was hit by two water bottles tonight that people were trying to throw on the ice in between periods

Quote from: DuncWhat the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

Still can't believe it was you they tossed and not the drunk guys who were actually cussing the whole game. Sorry to see that man

Some of these posts reminded me of why I only went to two of the games against Harvard as a student. They always seemed to attract some of the most obnoxious folks who never appear at any other games. The games against Dartmouth were always a bit more enjoyable, too, given you could expect some kind of chippiness in the play or a display of theatrics from Gaudet.

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Quote from: DuncWhat the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

I heard third hand that ECAC commissioner directed the band not to play it.

Quote from: vemonkeyAt some point we are actually going to get a penalty for the period change over fish throwing, but the students don't think the refs will do it.

I think the last time it happened was 2011 (when fish were tossed to "celebrate" our tying goal in the third period):
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mcorhar1.f18

We killed the fish throwing penalty, but Harvard got another PP right after and scored the GWG on that one.

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Quote from: vemonkeyAt some point we are actually going to get a penalty for the period change over fish throwing, but the students don't think the refs will do it.

I think the last time it happened was 2011 (when fish were tossed to "celebrate" our tying goal in the third period):
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mcorhar1.f18

We killed the fish throwing penalty, but Harvard got another PP right after and scored the GWG on that one.

I was at that game and while I don't remember the fish penalty, I do remember the GWG. Not a pretty game

IIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

Quote from: IcebergSome of these posts reminded me of why I only went to two of the games against Harvard as a student. They always seemed to attract some of the most obnoxious folks who never appear at any other games.

Take young males and add alcohol.  When I was a student, the fans in A and B at Fish 'n Fowl were, how shall I put this?, more "attractive" than the fans the rest of the season.  They were there to be seen, not to watch.

I remember at a game in the early 80s a typically drunken fool and his Five Towns GF were laughing and cursing at (both) teams, and as the ushers approached the guy he turned to us and yelled Bluto-style, "Who's with me?!"  

We all applauded as they frog marched him out.

Quote from: TrotskyIIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

The one I can still remember was '95, the last one of that streak, when somebody heaved a fish onto the ice at the start of the second period.  Minor was called and announced, and then Arthur read the no-throwing-things announcement for the third time that night, adding in his best I'm-surrounded-by-assholes voice, "as has just been demonstrated, the referees WILL call a penalty." Harvard scored on the PP.  Not the game-winner, but their first goal in a game the Big Red would lose 2-1.

I believe that was when Arthur said, "For those who did not hear the first warning, or are incapable of understanding, ..."  It was Peak Arthur; AFAIC the crowning achievement of a legendary career.

If they replace him with one of those smarmy let's get ready rumble fuckwits I will personally remedy the situation (https://www.theonion.com/boeing-promotes-mysterious-employee-known-only-as-the-1851333169).

Quote from: vemonkeyWish it had happened last night.  The student section was a little too rowdy tonight and needs to relearn some of the chants from the list on elynah.

Although I believe in adaptation and new, creative cheer development :) I agree with "relearn" suggestion:
1) In addition to jingling keys at inappropriate moments, it is disappointing to hear the students chant "warm up the bus" when I'm pretty sure it was "go start the bus." (perhaps I am remembering wrong?)
2) Also, maybe the "you goon" cheer was intentionally changed, but the "aaahhh, see ya! a-hole, you goon!" has morphed to something else that sounds silly to me. (But maybe I'm just invested in the original because I inspired it...)
3) Personally, I'd like to hear the Black Hole cheer resurrected - haven't heard the whole cheer in a long time - starting with "hey ___, you're not a goalie, you're a sieve... That's just plain fun to do with the crowd!
4) Finally, the canned scoreboard crowd-rowdy-maker videos have to go. Embarrassing, impersonal, lazy IMO. I think St Lawrence uses the hi-tech score board much more effectively than Cornell.

I remember "Go start the bus", too.  Unless we played Army ("Go start the tank") or Sucks ("Go staht the cahr").

I think the whole "Hey goalie...your _____ Called" is uninteresting.  Nobody can hear anything but You suck".

I despise the tubas "Over There". Manly because the cheers don't fit the rhythm.  It sounds clumsy to me,

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Quote from: DuncWhat the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

I heard third hand that ECAC commissioner directed the band not to play it.

Umm. And did you get an explanation as to why?? Why does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

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Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

Quote from: BearLoverThey've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

What's your definition of "long time"? It definitely wasn't a "thing" 20 years ago when I was in the student section, and in my last 12 years of being a season-ticket holder on the townie side, I've only heard it become noticeable during the COVID era.

Quote from: BearLoverAre we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now?

What led you to jump to that assumption? Seems pretty clear to me that it was a one time deal to try to settle the students down last night since league officials were in the house.

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Quote from: BearLoverThey've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

It definitely wasn't a "thing" 20 years ago when I was in the student section, and in my last 12 years of being a season-ticket holder on the townie side, I've only heard it become noticeable during the "COVID era."

Fair enough. It's been going on for a few years at least, though.

But the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years. They would drop F-bombs with or without this song (as we saw last night). Are we not allowed to even play the song anymore? This is a college sports event, not kindergarten tee-ball.

Quote from: BearLoverBut the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

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Quote from: BearLoverBut the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

In four years of sitting in the student section with everyone yelling "fuck 'em up," never once did I see someone tossed out for that.

Wasn't there a "fuck you harvard" chant in the first period of both games?

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I remember "Go start the bus", too.  Unless we played Army ("Go start the tank") or Sucks ("Go staht the cahr").

I think the whole "Hey goalie...your _____ Called" is uninteresting.  Nobody can hear anything but You suck".

I despise the tubas "Over There". Manly because the cheers don't fit the rhythm.  It sounds clumsy to me,

My annual Tepid Takes:

• The tubas are okay.  They lost Swanee River to the worry beaders so whatevs.  
• The "Ring, ring" cheer is just whatever person and/or frat does it masturbating in public.  It's embarrassing.  (Also, we stole it from BU, and they do it much better, which is even more embarrassing.)
  
• The worst thing is "Bend over," which is a lazy cheer that often continues right up until the other  team scores into our net.  Way to go, fans.
• The second-worst thing is the Jeopardy Theme, which is the pep band indulging itself.  It makes them sound stupid, which is terrible because our band is the best.
• I wish they would bring back "Go start the x," "Black hole" (the only chant I know of which was started by and stolen from Harvard), "Fight Maim Kill."
• Stop doing "Hey Baby" now that it's associated with sinkholes like Fenway.
• Finally, bring back the skating bear and the season-ending strip tease.  That was epic.

Post script: and for fuck's sake, TRY NEW THINGS!  When it's quiet, scream out some funny bit of inspiration.  That is where every Cornell cheer started.  Every one of our chants is the detritus of somebody auditioning, killing it, and it getting picked up first by their row, then their section, and finally the whole barn.  Put down your iPacifier and engage with the world, you nasty little shits.  

And keep my social security checks coming!

Quote from: DafatoneWasn't there a "fuck you harvard" chant in the first period of both games?

Oh, yeah, and it was loud and clear on the broadcast.  I have a feeling we are going to get an off-season directive and it will go the way of "The ref fucks sheep."

Great to see Goldstein!

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I remember "Go start the bus", too.  Unless we played Army ("Go start the tank") or Sucks ("Go staht the cahr").

I think the whole "Hey goalie...your _____ Called" is uninteresting.  Nobody can hear anything but You suck".

I despise the tubas "Over There". Manly because the cheers don't fit the rhythm.  It sounds clumsy to me,

My annual Tepid Takes:

• The tubas are okay.  They lost Swanee River to the worry beaders so whatevs.  
• The "Ring, ring" cheer is just whatever person and/or frat does it masturbating in public.  It's embarrassing.  (Also, we stole it from BU, and they do it much better.)
  
• The worst thing is "Bend over," which is a lazy cheer that often continues right up until the other  team scores into our net.  Way to go, fans.
• The second-worst thing is the Jeopardy Theme, which is the pep band indulging itself.  It makes them sound stupid, which is terrible because our band is the best.
• I wish they would bring back "Go start the x," "Black hole" (the only chant I know of which was started by and stolen from Harvard), "Fight Maim Kill."
• Stop doing "Hey Baby" now that it's associated with sinkholes like Fenway.
• Finally, bring back the skating bear and the season-ending strip tease.  That was epic.

The lamest cheer by far is the "hi ho, Silver, away!" or whatever they're saying, is plus the cringe hand-motions.

Quote from: BearLoverThe lamest cheer by far is the "hi ho, Silver, away!" or whatever they're saying, is plus the cringe hand-motions.

That's actually a really old one; IINM it is a reference to an Ike Willis bit who did a Lone Ranger thing during the 1984 Zappa tour because one night (in I believe Buffalo, but in any case in upstate NY), he just got really silly on stage.  It caught on and, like the bit, it is great because it is so lame.  I personally adore it.  And I am fine with inside jokes in the band.  Some are wonderful.  But they need to be quick, in and out.

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I remember "Go start the bus", too.  Unless we played Army ("Go start the tank") or Sucks ("Go staht the cahr").

I think the whole "Hey goalie...your _____ Called" is uninteresting.  Nobody can hear anything but You suck".

I despise the tubas "Over There". Manly because the cheers don't fit the rhythm.  It sounds clumsy to me,

My annual Tepid Takes:

• The tubas are okay.  They lost Swanee River to the worry beaders so whatevs.  
• The "Ring, ring" cheer is just whatever person and/or frat does it masturbating in public.  It's embarrassing.  (Also, we stole it from BU, and they do it much better, which is even more embarrassing.)
  
• The worst thing is "Bend over," which is a lazy cheer that often continues right up until the other  team scores into our net.  Way to go, fans.
• The second-worst thing is the Jeopardy Theme, which is the pep band indulging itself.  It makes them sound stupid, which is terrible because our band is the best.
• I wish they would bring back "Go start the x," "Black hole" (the only chant I know of which was started by and stolen from Harvard), "Fight Maim Kill."
• Stop doing "Hey Baby" now that it's associated with sinkholes like Fenway.
• Finally, bring back the skating bear and the season-ending strip tease.  That was epic.

Post script: and for fuck's sake, TRY NEW THINGS!  When it's quiet, scream out some funny bit of inspiration.  That is where every Cornell cheer started.  Every one of our chants is the detritus of somebody auditioning, killing it, and it getting picked up first by their row, then their section, and finally the whole barn.  Put down your iPacifier and engage with the world, you nasty little shits.  

And keep my social security checks coming!

I agree with just about all of this.
- While "bend over" is just cringey and lazy (made even worse by how common it is during a game), "Ugly" always still cracks me up during timeouts when the mask comes off.
- Whoever first screwed up the nice, clear, blunt "Die, Drop dead, Go home" and replaced them with the long garbled nonsense needs to, well, die, drop dead, and/or just go home.
- I still can't believe they haven't figured out how to make a "Let's go Red" chant last more than about 5 seconds. And not only that chant, but why is everything always so rushed? What's even the point of the goal count and "sieve" if they just do it as quickly as possible to get to the "it's all your fault"?
- Do they still do "good goalie, bad goalie"?
- IMHO, The bests are the slight twists on the classics - like "Go start the tank" mentioned above and "good goalie" to the empty net that the CU player just barely missed and "bad goalie" to the pulled one on the bench.

It was AWESOME to hear the students singing the Gary Glitter song last night. I miss that from the pre-covid days, when it would continue on after the puck dropped. Sorry you got the boot Dunc!

What was going on with the Harvard players not leaving the ice at the end of the 2nd period? They were all standing around by the Zamboni door.  Was that related to the F Bombs? Can't think they would actually care.

When they pull their goalie, Goalie! < point to our net >, Sieve! < point to empty net >, Sieve! < point to departed goalie on bench >

When they replace their goalie, "Second string sieve!"

I believe we were told expressly to stop doing "Die!" which... yeah, I get that.  "Dieeeeeeeeee" is so  dumb nobody is insulted by it.

The speeding up is what happens when you are mostly training a new crowd, which, remember, we still are.  The crowd has to realize the cheer has a  purpose, it is not for them, it is to raise the level of intensity of the barn to hype up the team.  That is why long, slow, building chants are so effective.  Lynah doesn't really have anything like it anymore, but in more disciplined days, and in other buildings, when you can get a crowd to be slow, in sync, and in full voice, it is fucking terrifying, it sounds like a bell tolling and The Furies are going to swoop down from the rafters and carry your sorry ass visiting team soul to hell.

One of my favorite Faithful memoires isn't even at Lynah, it was at the Garden with Harvard and RPI playing the 1985 final.  The Faithful had an entire section and we had all shown up despite being destroyed by eventual national champion RPI the prior night, since, why not, we're here already?

During a quiet time during play, when all you could hear was skates on the ice, as one the Faithful chanted, slowly, "the coach is bald!" and pointed at Cleary. Then "the coach is fat!" and pointed at Adessa.  And then, again, slowly, alternating back and forth, "Bald!... Fat!...  Bald!...  Fat!..."

Harvard was used to it because of Fish N Fowl, but at a stoppage I saw two RPI players turn around and just look in the stands, like, "What is WRONG with you people?  Your team isn't even here." It was so gratifying.

That is what is missing now.  I believe it can and will come again.

Quote from: CU2007What was going on with the Harvard players not leaving the ice at the end of the 2nd period? They were all standing around by the Zamboni door.  Was that related to the F Bombs? Can't think they would actually care.

No, the team doesn't give a shit about stuff like that, it's parents with kids who don't want to hear it and complain to the AD, and TBH I'm fine with it. It's a public place where famlies are welcome.  And profanity is the last refuge of the fucking incompetent.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

what changed Friday night was that it was not a Cornell home game.  It was an ECAC playoff game, put on by the ECAC.  If they have different ideas of the rules, or how strictly they should be enforced, well, that's their prerogative.  What was acceptable to the Cornell administration during the regular season just isn't relevant.

Just going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

But since Cleary was brought up - I'll throw in the same story that always periodically gets told, sometimes by me. The 1990 Cornell-Harvard series - Cleary's last before retirement. And him sitting with the pep band pre-game laughing it up. And then after Cornell won the series, him being serenaded with ... whatever ... as he was going off the ice, and him waving goodbye. Those memories were indelibly etched on a young reporter's brain. Just great stuff.

It was also the series where I snapped a picture of Tim Vanini scoring a big goal in Game 2 - which I still have - and with him doing the broadcasts these days, it was hard not to think of that constantly this weekend, especially since he talked about the series a lot - go figure.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

what changed Friday night was that it was not a Cornell home game.  It was an ECAC playoff game, put on by the ECAC.  If they have different ideas of the rules, or how strictly they should be enforced, well, that's their prerogative.  What was acceptable to the Cornell administration during the regular season just isn't relevant.

The ECAC gets to dictate the rules during the conference tournament, but not during the regular season? Cornell hosted the playoff game, just as they host home games during the regular season. I wasn't aware there was a substantive difference. It seems bizarre to me the ECAC has authority during a playoff game hosted by a team that it does not have during a regular season game hosted by that same team, against another ECAC team.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

what changed Friday night was that it was not a Cornell home game.  It was an ECAC playoff game, put on by the ECAC.  If they have different ideas of the rules, or how strictly they should be enforced, well, that's their prerogative.  What was acceptable to the Cornell administration during the regular season just isn't relevant.

The ECAC gets to dictate the rules during the conference tournament, but not during the regular season? Cornell hosted the playoff game, just as they host home games during the regular season. I wasn't aware there was a substantive difference. It seems bizarre to me the ECAC has authority during a playoff game hosted by a team that it does not have during a regular season game hosted by that same team, against another ECAC team.

Yes.  Same as the NcAA gets to ban alcohol sales for NCAA tournament games at arenas that normally have alcohol sales during the regular season, for another example.

Quote from: adamwJust going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

ECAC gets the chunk of the money so they make the rules.

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Quote from: BearLoverWhy does the ECAC Commissioner care if the band plays a song?

Because the vast majority of the students chant "Fuck 'em up, fuck 'em up, Go CU!" during Gary Glitter instead of "Rough 'em up." Rumor has it the ECAC commish was already very displeased with the student section behavior during Game 1, and Schafer's reading of the riot act to the students over the PA during the period break last night may have been a result of that (and the students' continued F-bomb-laden chants.)

The vast majority of students have been chanting that for at least the last 15 years. They've also been chanting "Fuck you, Harvard!" for a long time now. What changed Friday night?

Are we never allowed to play Gary Glitter again now? That's everybody's favorite cheer (including the players' if you listen to their interviews).

what changed Friday night was that it was not a Cornell home game.  It was an ECAC playoff game, put on by the ECAC.  If they have different ideas of the rules, or how strictly they should be enforced, well, that's their prerogative.  What was acceptable to the Cornell administration during the regular season just isn't relevant.

The ECAC gets to dictate the rules during the conference tournament, but not during the regular season? Cornell hosted the playoff game, just as they host home games during the regular season. I wasn't aware there was a substantive difference. It seems bizarre to me the ECAC has authority during a playoff game hosted by a team that it does not have during a regular season game hosted by that same team, against another ECAC team.

Yes.  Same as the NcAA gets to ban alcohol sales for NCAA tournament games at arenas that normally have alcohol sales during the regular season, for another example.

Interesting. Well, I guess that means we'll have Gary Glitter back next year, at least.

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Quote from: adamwJust going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Climbing over the glass to mingle with the team ended when the new glass went in but, with the right encouragement, fans went on the ice through the open doors to celebrate for at least a couple of years after that.  I was one of the "adults" who pushed students to do it the first year, because it was one of the few times fans could hang with the team unless they were friends off ice and it was a tradition I had shared in for years, first as a student and then as a faculty member.

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Quote from: adamwJust going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

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Quote from: adamwJust going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

I think it has been at least 15 years.

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Quote from: adamwJust going to chime in with my usual old man two cents - but I agree with just about everything written here - especially Trotsky's request to bring back the striptease. What a loss. And when did the post-quarters flood the ice tradition end? Covid? That's a massive shame.

When the high glass was installed, making it impossible to go on the ice by climbing over the glass.

Yes, but at least as recently as 5 years ago? Maybe 10 - time flies ... fans were allowed to come on the ice through the zamboni doors. I thought I remember seeing that as recently as a few years ago - but again, time flies, so who knows.

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted. I specifically remember one instance at the end of a PE hockey class where the rink manager or whoever ran rink operations at the time was quick to call us off the ice because the team happened to have a practice afterwards. There was always clear separation so I imagine there was a change at least a few years before 2010 when I first started living on North Campus

Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

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Quote from: BearLoverBut the question still remains—what's wrong with Gary Glitter? The students have been dropping F-bombs during that song for 20 years.

And the ushers have been tossing some of them out for that to "make an example" off and on over the last 20 years (although they do seem to have chilled out on the ejections during the last few years). Maybe it was an Andy Noel thing, and the new AD wants to have a better reputation with the students? That's been my impression at least, although I think having ECAC brass  in the building (like last night) causes sphincters to tighten up a bit amongst athletics staff.

In four years of sitting in the student section with everyone yelling "fuck 'em up," never once did I see someone tossed out for that.

Pretty sure I got tossed out over 20 years ago because they claimed I said fuck 'em up. Ironic, as that was one of the times I actually wasn't, though loads more around me were. Course, I just came back in a different entrance, but it was still a pretty shit thing to do.

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

The going on to the ice after winning in the quarters went away sometime around 2008. We went on the ice routinely when we won quarters from the late 90's to mid-2000s. It was a really cool thing to do and the players seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Heck, it was how I got Iggulden to sign my home jersey (well to be fair, I had my girlfriend wear the jersey and ask him to sign it...but jersey and now wife are still going strong almost 20 years later!) Others would bring jerseys, programs, and cameras to have players sign and/or take pictures.  It is a shame it went away.

As for the game, it was one of the best Harvard x Cornell games in recent memory. The team has been trending in the right direction the last few weeks and the play of the freshman has been really impressive. The student section clearly needs to work on some new cheers and some old ones need to make a come back. I dislike the profanity and find it completely unoriginal. That seems to be a relatively recent development over the last few years as I don't remember it being a thing a few years ago.  But it led to my oldest daughter putting her hands over my youngest's ears every few minutes, which humored those around us in O.

Here's to hoping we can figure out the yeti that mans the Dartmouth goal!

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

It's the best night of the year.  It's the Friday after their last games of the fall semester.  Have made some lifelong friends at this event.

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

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Quote from: TrotskyThe crowd is loud and engaged, which is tremendous, but they still have very little creativity.

And now we get a third period fish thrown and a "Season's over" chant with a full period to play.

Frat boys gonna frat.

Friday night the "scoreboard, scoreboard" chants started early second period.  That didn't age well

Quote from: CUDrew0105The going on to the ice after winning in the quarters went away sometime around 2008. We went on the ice routinely when we won quarters from the late 90's to mid-2000s. It was a really cool thing to do and the players seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Heck, it was how I got Iggulden to sign my home jersey (well to be fair, I had my girlfriend wear the jersey and ask him to sign it...but jersey and now wife are still going strong almost 20 years later!) Others would bring jerseys, programs, and cameras to have players sign and/or take pictures.  It is a shame it went away.

As for the game, it was one of the best Harvard x Cornell games in recent memory. The team has been trending in the right direction the last few weeks and the play of the freshman has been really impressive. The student section clearly needs to work on some new cheers and some old ones need to make a come back. I dislike the profanity and find it completely unoriginal. That seems to be a relatively recent development over the last few years as I don't remember it being a thing a few years ago.  But it led to my oldest daughter putting her hands over my youngest's ears every few minutes, which humored those around us in O.

Here's to hoping we can figure out the yeti that mans the Dartmouth goal!

The profanity has going on for a while.  http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,479,730#msg-730

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

I was at a regular public free skate at Lynah when I was an undergrad, just shuffling around the ice like the southern boy I grew up as.  One time when I managed to look up from my skates, there was some sort of creature just flowing over the ice.  He was only doing 3 mph, like the crowd, but he moved, just, differently.  Like the differnece between a swimming human and a swimming dolphin.  Even at that speed, doing absolutely nothing, his grace just drew the eye.  Turns out it was Mike Sancimino '96.  I still have no idea what he was doing at that public skate, but being out there with him live sure gave me a greater appreciation for the absolute skill those guys have on the ice.

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

Since everyone is speculating: the high glass was installed before the 2005-06 season.

So the first clarkson qf series, ending in Topher Scott's overtime goal (and jumping about a meter), was the last climb-the-glass moment.

The following year's clarkson qf series, which had the longest game in Lynah history to date, ended in Moulson's OT goal and we went through the Zamboni doors.

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Quote from: TrotskyIIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

The one I can still remember was '95, the last one of that streak, when somebody heaved a fish onto the ice at the start of the second period.  Minor was called and announced, and then Arthur read the no-throwing-things announcement for the third time that night, adding in his best I'm-surrounded-by-assholes voice, "as has just been demonstrated, the referees WILL call a penalty." Harvard scored on the PP.  Not the game-winner, but their first goal in a game the Big Red would lose 2-1.

I wasn't even there, and I remember that one: https://amurgsval.org/squishy/fish.1.4.html

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Quote from: DuncWhat the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

I heard third hand that ECAC commissioner directed the band not to play it.

Does the band not playing Gary Glitter mean they can go back to playing "Gonna Fly Now" at the start of the third period, or has that passed out of institutional memory?

For that matter, did they manage to play "Love Story" this weekend?  IIRC that got cut off by quick returns from intermission lately.

Quote from: BMacSince everyone is speculating: the high glass was installed before the 2005-06 season.

So the first clarkson qf series, ending in Topher Scott's overtime goal (and jumping about a meter), was the last climb-the-glass moment.

The following year's clarkson qf series, which had the longest game in Lynah history to date, ended in Moulson's OT goal and we went through the Zamboni doors.

Seamless glass went in for 2001 season I'm pretty sure. The 2000 Harvard quintafinal was definitely an over the glass event. In 2001 I think some people went over the seamless but the zamboni doors got opened. In 2002 it was more or less the same. And I think by 2003 it was all zamboni door.

Thread here more or less corroborates: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,3617,3649#msg-3649

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

First documented instance of fans storming the ice after a game was February 3, 1962, when Laing Kennedy made 48 saves as Cornell beat Harvard 2-1. See pp. 33-41 in "Forever Faithful", or p. 243 in Bob Kane's "Good Sports".

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Quote from: IcebergI can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

First documented instance of fans storming the ice after a game was February 3, 1962, when Laing Kennedy made 48 saves as Cornell beat Harvard 2-1. See pp. 33-41 in "Forever Faithful", or p. 243 in Bob Kane's "Good Sports".

Eyewitness here.

I'm on a zoom with the people I work with and one of them went to his first-ever Cornell hockey game Saturday night with his wife and two kids, both of whom are less than two years old.  His attitude about the cussing was, "well they're going to hear it anyway at some point, what's the difference?  We're already seeing guys beat each other up on the ice."  He was surprised at Coach Schafer's announcement, as he said it didn't seem to be all that bad.

Constant f-bombs aren't, like, innovative. But I have trouble worrying about them in 2024, and the continued effort to censor our crowds strikes me as weird.

While I agree it's not the best use of language. I don't know that censoring a college group from occasional yelling in a cheer is a great use of resource time.

The young kids will hear it about 100x during a game from many other sources.

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During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

I remember going over the glass from Section A after the QF sweep of Harvard in 1990. I had transferred in and bought the second half of a season ticket package from someone in my dorm who bought them at the beginning of the season because of peer pressure but was happy to offload them by January. My high school pal and his friends were all on the glass in G, below the netting and i remember running (carefully) over to them to bang the glass back from the other side.

Quote from: Give My RegardsI'm on a zoom with the people I work with and one of them went to his first-ever Cornell hockey game Saturday night with his wife and two kids, both of whom are less than two years old.  His attitude about the cussing was, "well they're going to hear it anyway at some point, what's the difference?  We're already seeing guys beat each other up on the ice."  He was surprised at Coach Schafer's announcement, as he said it didn't seem to be all that bad.

It seems it was only an issue when the league brass came to town. I assume they're melting the ice this week and we've got 7 months for memories to fade over a hot summer. This too shall pass.

I recall Coach Schafer scolding the students over the PA after "The Refs Fuck Sheep" got new lungs and "Asshole" started being appended every time to "See ya" (before "you goon" started manifesting). He had young kids at the time.

I liked it when a few years prior, Section B just chanted "SHEEP *pause* THE REF *pause* SHEEP ..."

It's never the right words that are most effective in chants/cheers, but the right *silences*. Very few students understand that.

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During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

Sure. As Trotsky said, I made a point to say "my era." We've all seen the video of 70s long-haired hippies dancing around the ice looking for Gemmel or Nethary. Or Randy Wilson. Personally, I've probably watched that thing 100s of times. :-)

Quote from: Give My RegardsI'm on a zoom with the people I work with and one of them went to his first-ever Cornell hockey game Saturday night with his wife and two kids, both of whom are less than two years old.  His attitude about the cussing was, "well they're going to hear it anyway at some point, what's the difference?  We're already seeing guys beat each other up on the ice."  He was surprised at Coach Schafer's announcement, as he said it didn't seem to be all that bad.

As the parent of a 10 year-old, I have mixed feelings on the issue myself.  I'm lucky that my daughter doesn't utilize vulgar language at all (or is smart enough to know not to use it around me or my wife) so she's not mimicking the "Fuck you ____" cheers.  And obviously, as an attendee of most home games over the past few years, she's clearly been exposed to the cuss words already anyway.  But it seemed much heavier at the games this weekend.  So I'm okay with toning it down a bit.  Schafer was right in his comments addressing the crowd: we're better than that.

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As the parent of a 10 year-old, I have mixed feelings on the issue myself.  I'm lucky that my daughter doesn't utilize vulgar language at all (or is smart enough to know not to use it around me or my wife) so she's not mimicking the "Fuck you ____" cheers.  And obviously, as an attendee of most home games over the past few years, she's clearly been exposed to the cuss words already anyway.  But it seemed much heavier at the games this weekend.  So I'm okay with toning it down a bit.  Schafer was right in his comments addressing the crowd: we're better than that.

The point isn't whether it is the worst thing in the world; it isn't. It's about whether it is necessary and it definitely is not. I'm mostly shocked that by the playoffs screaming FUCK in an arena (more than a couple of times anyway) isn't boring to you.

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Quote from: Give My RegardsI'm on a zoom with the people I work with and one of them went to his first-ever Cornell hockey game Saturday night with his wife and two kids, both of whom are less than two years old.  His attitude about the cussing was, "well they're going to hear it anyway at some point, what's the difference?  We're already seeing guys beat each other up on the ice."  He was surprised at Coach Schafer's announcement, as he said it didn't seem to be all that bad.

As the parent of a 10 year-old, I have mixed feelings on the issue myself.  I'm lucky that my daughter doesn't utilize vulgar language at all (or is smart enough to know not to use it around me or my wife) so she's not mimicking the "Fuck you ____" cheers.  And obviously, as an attendee of most home games over the past few years, she's clearly been exposed to the cuss words already anyway.  But it seemed much heavier at the games this weekend.  So I'm okay with toning it down a bit.  Schafer was right in his comments addressing the crowd: we're better than that.

The point isn't whether it is the worst thing in the world; it isn't. It's about whether it is necessary and it definitely is not. I'm mostly shocked that by the playoffs screaming FUCK in an arena (more than a couple of times anyway) isn't boring to you.

Back when "suck" was an ejectable word, the instructions we got were that it was OK if it was part of something long and creative but not to just drone on with "yaaaaalle.... Sucks" twenty times a night. Same idea more or less. Don't be lazy and chant "f you____" over and over again when there is so much more material out there.

I'm no prude; I just think we're better and more creative than constant f*ck you's

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Thats pretty much the only word kids under like 25 use.

Are we witnessing the Dave Portnoy-ification of the Cornell students? Just greenlighting all manner of boorishness?

I think the problem this weekend was the intensity and frequency of the F U Harvard (as well as directing it against individual players on Saturday) cheer.

The number of students that were doing the cheer meant that no one could miss it. During the season it appeared much less frequently, with less intensity, so could almost be ignored.

I have no idea if the ECAC had anything to do with it, but it would not surprise me if Coach Schafer's announcement was on his own. He's had a long history about not liking profanity at the rink.

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It seems it was only an issue when the league brass came to town. I assume they're melting the ice this week and we've got 7 months for memories to fade over a hot summer. This too shall pass.

I recall Coach Schafer scolding the students over the PA after "The Refs Fuck Sheep" got new lungs and "Asshole" started being appended every time to "See ya" (before "you goon" started manifesting). He had young kids at the time.

I liked it when a few years prior, Section B just chanted "SHEEP *pause* THE REF *pause* SHEEP ..."

It's never the right words that are most effective in chants/cheers, but the right *silences*. Very few students understand that.

Ironically, it was my inability to shout profanity (a-hole) that led to me standing up and screaming in frustration (at Nickerson?) "you goon!" in one of those quiet moments...

Hey y'all, in the band, I can shed some light.


The league was getting pissed at all the cursing (there was at least 8 F-You Harvard chants, clearly audible on the broadcast), so the band was asked to not do Gary Glitter for that night, just a one time thing as far as I can tell.

We still play Gonna Fly Now, and Love Story was played both nights.

I'm 1000% sure that people jumped over the glass in the 2004-05 clarkson Q1 and that the glass was taller the next season, so we were waved through the Zamboni doors instead. I have a pic with a very happy Matt Moulson on the ice to prove it :-)

He had the look of a man who has just scored the OT goal on his last time on the ice at Lynah. God, he was good that season.

Email just sent to Student season ticket holders from Schafer:

Quote from: Mike SchaferHello,

This past weekend, we completed a series sweep of Harvard in the ECAC Quarterfinals before a sold-out crowd of 4,267. Saturday's decisive win was amplified by the infectious environment in Lynah Rink, which has been cultivated by generations of dedicated student fans.

Our student fans are the core of the Lynah Faithful, and your participation invigorates the atmosphere each time we play at home.

I wanted to take the time to thank you for your support throughout the season, and your willingness to adapt during Saturday night's game. Your resilience and ability to continue the momentum, while refraining from the use of profanities, ultimately contributed to the environment that propelled the team to a win. Supporting our team - while abiding by league rule and being gracious to our opponents - is integral to our success. I encourage you to continue to support the Big Red and our traditions in creative and innovative ways.

This upcoming weekend, Cornell will face Dartmouth in the ECAC Hockey semifinals at Herb Brooks Arena in Lake Placid, N.Y. Your continued support is greatly appreciated as we continue our post-season competition.

I also encourage you to stay on the lookout for information regarding season tickets for next year. As I mentioned, the environment in Lynah has been cultivated by generations of student fans, and your perennial support is a pillar of the Cornell Hockey experience.
 

Go Big Red!

I Thought with the discourse about the student section/profanity, this was relevant to share.

Since I haven't spoken about it since I posted my message about getting tossed for starting Hey Song, i thought I'd share my thoughts from the perspective of a section B student. I totally agree with everyone here expressing grief towards the "F U _____" chants. I too, along with many of the seniors up front of section B find these "lazy" chants annoying, especially given they are typically started by wasted students who aren't even always regulars to the student section but who are boisterous and loud enough to get those around them to join in; chants spread like wildfire. I also agree with Schafer when it comes to the need for more creativity and I agree with the general discussion here that the energy in the section as a whole has diminished over the past few years. I remember coming to games growing up and having sustained, steady Let's go Red chants for long, impactful lengths of time. Even my first game as a student (which was covid era and a half full student section) had more cohesion and unity among the chants in the section - probably because there were still students left from pre-Covid. But now we can't even manage a "let's go red" chant for more than 15 seconds.

So I get it. I get the frustration about lack of creativity and the pointlessness of basic chants with just profanity. But at the same time, I don't see how removing Hey Song, moves us any closer towards a more creative and/or traditional student section. So here's to hoping it's a one time thing only due to the sheer number of F U chants on Saturday/pressure from ECAC and not a permanent shift in the mindset of Schafer. As it's one of the few remaining cohesive chants of the entire student section and the favorite of basically all the players I've heard interviewed, it'd be a shame to lose that tradition. I'm hoping Schafer thanking our ability to "adapt" means it is a temporary shift and not something ECAC will prohibit going into next regular season. I guess we will see if they let the band play it at lake placid

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During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

First documented instance of fans storming the ice after a game was February 3, 1962, when Laing Kennedy made 48 saves as Cornell beat Harvard 2-1. See pp. 33-41 in "Forever Faithful", or p. 243 in Bob Kane's "Good Sports".

Eyewitness here.

I can't testify as to when the side glass first went up, but I remember sitting in the first row of Section B and having players land in our laps.

That statement by Schafer is Marbury v Madison, as far as I'm concerned.

Let's win this thing in Placid. 14 years is too long (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Title_Games.html).

Quote from: TrotskyThat statement by Schafer is Marbury v Madison, as far as I'm concerned.

Let's win this thing in Placid. 14 years is too long (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Title_Games.html).

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