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Title: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: rss77 on March 07, 2024, 12:31:41 PM
Starting the game thread. Face-offs Aim for 50%?
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 07, 2024, 01:05:22 PM
Hope to see the defense keep them to 10.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: BlueSky on March 08, 2024, 10:32:55 AM
It looks like another mess weather-wise in PA tomorrow. Hard to get the team really clicking in a big game with sideways rain and thunder. Could see it moved to Sunday, with snow squalls and wind there.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 08, 2024, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: BlueSkyIt looks like another mess weather-wise in PA tomorrow. Hard to get the team really clicking in a big game with sideways rain and thunder. Could see it moved to Sunday, with snow squalls and wind there.

They played indoors at The Pennsylvania State a couple of years ago. Maybe that's an option.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:01:18 PM
It's not really our game, but a couple of off-ball picks for CJ would be easy goals, I think.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 09, 2024, 12:11:17 PM
Continue to give shooters stepdown room.

Can't win a faceoff.  Down 4-0.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:11:53 PM
PSU 4-0

Shot top left with the shot clock running out.

Goal in the front. Blocked shot. Loose ball.

Goal top left.

Shot from the 5x5 side right.

We're not winning face offs.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:13:21 PM
Kelleher shot from top right.

4-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: RichH on March 09, 2024, 12:18:22 PM
It's really a shame that having an audio option is dead.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:19:18 PM
Cornell did not convert on a one-minute EMO.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:20:02 PM
Hung d. X hit the cutter.
5-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: RichHIt's really a shame that having an audio option is dead.

I wonder why WHCU isn't broadcasting these days.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:23:13 PM
Cornell did not convert on the 30 second EMO.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 09, 2024, 12:23:59 PM
EMO looks lost.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:24:15 PM
Top center.
6-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:24:28 PM
Something needs to be done about the EMO unit. Has been a consistent weak point all year.

Also, I'd like to see Tully get some time in net
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: chimpfood on March 09, 2024, 12:25:51 PM
Is knust playing? He should have a damn short leash from this point on.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:26:17 PM
Actually, Tully is in now, though the commenters have not mentioned it.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:26:41 PM
Same problem all year. If we're not going to play better D on shooters from 10-15 yards, other teams are going to keep making us pay with step downs.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 09, 2024, 12:27:07 PM
6-1 after one...Tully in at goal
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:30:02 PM
PSU goalie is playing really well today. He's made at least three A+ stops.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:31:02 PM
Top left. 12 yards.
PSU 7-1
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: chimpfood on March 09, 2024, 12:33:05 PM
For anyone who has the stream, are the goalies the difference in this one? The stats don't seem to lopsided.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:34:26 PM
I think Knust could have made two or three saves there, but we are allowing free hands at 10-12 yards. That's a tough stop for anyone.

Another. Top left. Free hands. 8 yards.

8-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: dag14 on March 09, 2024, 12:34:40 PM
Just looking at the stats, PSU has 6 saves and we have 1....Hence the 1-8 score.  I have been watching wrestling so not following the game.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:35:29 PM
While they've contributed, the shots PSU is taking seem much cleaner in terms of lanes and space. Everything looking tough for our offense.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Wertheim all alone. Couldn't score on the PSU goalie.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:36:39 PM
Maybe I take it back after that last PSU save. Firth with no one between him and the keeper from like 8 yards out, stoned by PSU goalie.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:38:43 PM
Follows hard check to the ballcarrier. 30 second penalty. Frustration foul
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:39:30 PM
Two turnovers in a row for Cornell.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:39:48 PM
Great save by Tully, but then how in the world is that not a push against Box?
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:39:51 PM
Bounce shot, Top center.
9-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: semsoxGreat save by Tully, but then how in the world is that not a push against Box?

Should have been.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:42:19 PM
PSU kick save in front of the goal with Mikie Long all alone.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 12:42:33 PM
PSU goalie truly out of his mind. I haven't seen anything like this in awhile. We should probably have at least 5 goals
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:43:06 PM
Top left.
10-1 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:43:49 PM
Cornell FO win and turnover.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:44:52 PM
Wet sticks are causing some bad passes by Cornell today. Doesn't seem to bother PSU though.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:47:49 PM
CJ gets a goal side left from about 8 yards.
10-2 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:48:43 PM
CJ intercepts a pass after a PSU FO win, shoots it into the open net.
10-3 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:49:28 PM
Petrakis can't scoop the ball. PSU ball. 2 minutes left in the half.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:52:19 PM
Kelleher top center, muscle goal.
10-4 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: upprdeck on March 09, 2024, 12:52:31 PM
really if the PSU goalie doesnt make 4-5 really good saves in tight its about a 10-7 game with Cornell making tons of mistakes.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:53:58 PM
PSU top center. Not terrible defense this time. Good shot.
11-4 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 12:56:52 PM
11-4 PSU at the half.

We're not out of this, but if we don't start playing better defense right now, we're done.

PSU is playing outstanding defense. We are getting few easy shots, and the PSU goalie is playing great.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 09, 2024, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: mike1960PSU top center. Not terrible defense this time. Good shot.
11-4 PSU
Many PSU goals shot from middle of field with biggest target.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: upprdeck on March 09, 2024, 01:04:04 PM
you would like to see 4-5 saves with the PSU shots from distance.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:08:48 PM
PSU underhand shot, top center, two men on him.
12-4
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:09:55 PM
PSU ballcarrier just ran past two Cornell guys and top left shot.
13-4 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:11:27 PM
Firth side right.
13-5 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:15:01 PM
Hung D, X hit the cutter. Chris Davis turned his head and let his guy go free in front of the net for some reason.
14-5 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
15-5 PSU
PSU free hands top center 10 yards away
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:19:46 PM
Firth gets free on the doorstep, pass from Long. EMO
15-6 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:22:13 PM
Hung D. X feeds cutter. Behind the back goal for PSU.
16-6
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: arugula on March 09, 2024, 01:23:15 PM
Are we this bad?
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:23:38 PM
Two turnovers in a row by Cornell.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: CU77 on March 09, 2024, 01:23:48 PM
Today, yes.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:24:48 PM
Wrap from X. PSU
17-6 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:27:22 PM
It feels like we're very predictable on offense.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:29:03 PM
Top right.
18-6 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:31:01 PM
Dalton goal at the goalmouth. Great feed by CJ.
18-7 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:32:47 PM
18-7 PSU, end of the third.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:36:40 PM
Singer put a shoulder in the PSU ballcarrier facemask. Frustration penalty. 2 minute EMO.

Easy stepdown top right.

19-7 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: upprdeck on March 09, 2024, 01:40:30 PM
the D has shown issues all year with sliding, Denver came back to win.. Lehigh lit them up.

Might be a long yr on D. And the goalie play today was horrid.

Still the offense isnt doing much as well.. sloppy, poor shooting
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2024, 01:41:04 PM
Lordie, 19-8 Penn State 5 minutes into the fourth. Need to start looking up most recent margin of loss by, perhaps 10 goals?

At this writing, CJ Kirst 2G on 9 shots, Willem Firth 2 on 7.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:42:06 PM
Quick stick Mikey Long, side left.
19-8 PSU
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:47:35 PM
Cornell stopped a 2 man up EMO.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:50:38 PM
PSU is bringing in subs.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:52:41 PM
Mikey Long to Caddigan cutting to the goal.
19-9 PSU
4:09 left.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 01:55:32 PM
PSU top center worm burner.
20-9.
2:42 left.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: upprdeck on March 09, 2024, 01:59:25 PM
not surprised we lost. The lack of scoring and the turnovers was bad to see.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2024, 02:01:08 PM
Penn State 20, Cornell 9. Final.

COR  1  3  3  2  --  9
PSU  6  5  7  2  -- 20


Shots, shots on goal, saves, turnovers all close-ish but in Penn State's favor. Cornell won faceoffs 19-14. Biggest margin was goals, that and save percentage Cornell .355 (Knust .143, Tully .417), Penn State .625.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: semsox on March 09, 2024, 02:03:26 PM
Just one of those games. Hopefully they're ready for next weekend, a tough Ivy opener @Princeton
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 02:04:49 PM
Game over. 20-9 PSU.

The difference is that one team was extremely well coached on defense, and the other side wasn't. This has been our problem all year (and last year).

PSU scored easily with old-fashioned, wooden stick era speed dodges from 10-15 yards out and getting free hands. Our shorties could not stay with them and received no help. It was just too easy.

It feels like we were resoundly outcoached by our former gaffer. Where do we go from here?
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: rss77 on March 09, 2024, 02:05:13 PM
Need to take a hard look at the Defense (Nothing like stating the obvious).
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: Local Motion on March 09, 2024, 08:31:05 PM
It's already been posted on the Ivy board the lack of physicality by the Cornell defense, which has been an issue for the Big Red.   For example I am currently watching the John Hopkins and Syracuse game and both teams are very physical.   There is a reason why they wear helmets and shoulder pads.
Title: Re: MLAX: Cornell vs Penn State 3/9/24
Post by: mike1960 on March 09, 2024, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Local MotionIt's already been posted on the Ivy board the lack of physicality by the Cornell defense, which has been an issue for the Big Red.   For example I am currently watching the John Hopkins and Syracuse game and both teams are very physical.   There is a reason why they wear helmets and shoulder pads.

It wouldn't hurt to get a little more physical, at least try to push the shooter a little off balance.

What I'm not understanding is why they are allowing free hands up top. We all know the short stick defensive middie is a super tough position to play. And Coaches Stevens and Buczek know more about lacrosse than I ever will. But I don't understand why we're not more effective at pushing the ball down the alleys. That's what most teach in basic midfield defense. Use body position to block the top so shooters can't run across in front of the goal, or if they get across, force them as high as possible.

Surely it's not that they are so much more athletic than we are. Or are they? Or this some kind of defensive approach that I'm not understanding?