Into the North Country.
(http://www.tbrw.info/images/North_Country_2.jpg)
We have won once in our last 7 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_in_North_Country_Icon.htm) at Cheel. 4 wins since 2005 (4-6-7). 9 since 1989 (9-15-11 including 2 QF losses (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Playoff_Games.html)). Let's start putting up some solid derp points.
Clarkson has really played below their talent the last few seasons. That always makes me scared to play them, because I expect us to have a better chance of losing than the Pairwise would suggest (which in turn would really hurt us in the rankings).
Devlin still banged up; O'Brien in.
1:40 in and Castagna may be about to get tossed.
Season over if we lose this game
Quote from: Big DingusSeason over if we lose this game
Cheer up.
I am cheerful. It's just facts though. Yale may have been the dagger anyway. I'll support this team until the day I die though
Major, but he stays.
Quote from: Big DingusI am cheerful. It's just facts though. Yale may have been the dagger anyway. I'll support this team until the day I die though
If Cornell loses this game and then wins the following five games until the ECAC final, good chance we get an at-large bid even if we lose the final to Quinnipiac.
In other news, what a soft call. Turns at the last second
Quote from: Big DingusI am cheerful. It's just facts though. Yale may have been the dagger anyway. I'll support this team until the day I die though
The fucking season isn't fucking over we have a fucking great chance to get to fucking Lake Placid and win the fucking ECACs.
But please, by all means, leave for the year when the season is "over" to you. You don't add anything.
Great kill by Kraft.
Why do people think we can't win the ECAC tournament?
Suda got an ouchie there on the block.
Walsh won that faceoff in mid-air, Gretzky style.
Still very little skating on the pp.
Kraft hits the post from basically point blank. For all the lack of positonal movement, there were still some very high-quality chances on that PP
Has Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Quote from: ERWhy do people think we can't win the ECAC tournament?
Shafer has been allergic to meaningful hardware since 2010
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: ERWhy do people think we can't win the ECAC tournament?
Shafer has been allergic to meaningful hardware since 2010
Actually, we win in 2019 if the refs call the game correctly, and we probably win in 2020 too.
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: ERWhy do people think we can't win the ECAC tournament?
Shafer has been allergic to meaningful hardware since 2010
Stahp.
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
The younger of the announcers is a dictionary picture for "mouth breather."
How...
Two good responses, but let's get ahead now, lads.
Union has put a 5 up in the second period against Harvard and it isn't finished yet.
Wow are there ever some significant games in the pairwise tonight... not too many going our way it seems though lol.
Do we want Umass to win or to lose?
Whoo, pretty goal for Bancroft!
Quote from: Big DingusWow are there ever some significant games in the pairwise tonight... not too many going our way it seems though lol.
Do we want Umass to win or to lose?
There is a detailed discussion in the Opponents thread. I can't remember. :-)
Look at us so far 2-3 on the pp
These guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Quote from: dag14Look at us so far 2-3 on the pp
And a post on the first one.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Big DingusWow are there ever some significant games in the pairwise tonight... not too many going our way it seems though lol.
Do we want Umass to win or to lose?
There is a detailed discussion in the Opponents thread. I can't remember. :-)
I lean lose, personally.
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Between them and the bell, I'm really rethinking the respected opponent status I usually give them.
I wonder if Jack O'Leary is playing sick. He has been invisible tonight.
SLU down 3-0 came all the way back to tie Colgate with an extra attacker goal with 15 seconds to go.
Quote from: TrotskySLU down 3-0 came all the way back to tie Colgate with an extra attacker goal with 15 seconds to go.
And they win 4-3 in OT.
About half of them are
About half of them are sick
And SLU wins 40 seconds into overtime.
D really picked up Shane on that kill!!!
Quote from: fastforwardAbout half of them are sick
Geez, I thought that was last week. Spreading the bugs around perhaps.
Oh my god
that was a terrible icing
The ultimate homer announcer move: yelling "YES!!" when your team ties it late.
Surprised we didn't call time out before that face-off.
Can you call time on an icing? I can't remember.
That went off the center's hand and back. Not sure it's a hand pass.
Good job
Quote from: Mr. Nissthat was a terrible icing
Just bad luck. That's not icing if the puck didn't roll on edge.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: Mr. Nissthat was a terrible icing
Just bad luck. That's not icing if the puck didn't roll on edge.
the puck definitely was on edge but I agree with the mouthbreather that it probably would have been icing anyway
We're literally 16-4-5 and we have people crawling out of the woodwork to pout about a late goal when we've killed 11 minutes of penalties.
Hard to believe.
stupid fucking icing I'm so goddamn mad
Quote from: fastforwardAbout half of them are
Where are you getting this information from? In last weekend's postgame Schafer said a bunch of guys were sick, but that was a week ago and I'd assume they're mostly better now.
Gosselin the first guy all year I can remember beating Seger at the dot.
don't know if the puck hopped his stick but Bancroft set up perfectly for a back door tap and i thought it was over.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: fastforwardAbout half of them are
Where are you getting this information from? In last weekend's postgame Schafer said a bunch of guys were sick, but that was a week ago and I'd assume they're mostly better now.
"DM me for details"
Quote from: DafatoneWe're literally 16-4-5 and we have people crawling out of the woodwork to pout about a late goal when we've killed 11 minutes of penalties.
Hard to believe.
Saying the icing was a bad play is pouting? Someone who's lived and died (and who gives money to) Cornell sports for 40 years is crawling out of the woodwork because I came over here after the basketball game was over? Piss off.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: fastforwardAbout half of them are
Where are you getting this information from? In last weekend's postgame Schafer said a bunch of guys were sick, but that was a week ago and I'd assume they're mostly better now.
It's the gift that keeps on giving-all over campus
That was so terrible that it makes me question why I continue to follow this team.
Schafer losing to clarkson on purpose to let jones keep his job.
Quote from: BearLoverThat was so terrible that it makes me question why I continue to follow this team.
Feel free not to.
Sometimes this place feels like an NHL reddit site. Man, people are soft.
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Only for the last 60 years or so.
feels like they scored 4 janky bullshit goals but i think I'm getting my perspective warped by having a team that plays great positional defense so the goals we give up are freaky and ugly and our opponents forecheck hard and pack the crease so it feels like drilling through diamond to get to the net
Per Grady: we have clinched a bye.
In other news, why does Clarkson suck now, what a downfall from a good program
ruined my night after a great win over Yale
iceing, lose a draw, allow a crazy angle shot and goal then give away in OT behind the net.
Lots of things to go wrong to get a loss and why is Clarkon the place so many of them happen.
Quote from: ugarteruined my night after a great win over Yale
Yeah. Crazy
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Is it not the actual bell (aka "That damn bell" that Dryden complained about)? I think what they decide to ring it for comes and goes.
lol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
Quote from: DafatoneSurprised we didn't call time out before that face-off.
Can you call time on an icing? I can't remember.
That went off the center's hand and back. Not sure it's a hand pass.
I was also wondering why we didn't call the TO there.
Ironic to lose the lead on an icing right after two instances of waiting to gain the red line and then losing the puck before getting a shot at the empty net.
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
and it doesn't even count as a whole loss, thanks the awful points system hockey is using these days.
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.
So depressing to watch that shit while walking out to Newman after a big win from basketball. Cannot be throwing away the season like that.
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
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Cornell is probably going to miss the NCAAs because of a horribly unlucky series of events in the final seconds of tonight's game. The fact we didn't lose for 14 straight prior makes that more frustrating, not less. This was a terrible result.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.
It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.
I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.
Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting!
Just say "woke," it's fewer keystrokes.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.
It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.
I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.
Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.
this is the kind of thing i contemplate on the nights that we win or maybe on a wednesday. in the immediate aftermath of a big ol' honk job i'm mad.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.
It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.
I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.
Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.
this is the kind of thing i contemplate on the nights that we win or maybe on a wednesday. in the immediate aftermath of a big ol' honk job i'm mad.
That's fair. Mad away.
Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.
Did we really expect that this team was going to go 3 months without really losing a game?
losing on the Rd in OT was somewhat of a help. Win the next 5 with 4 of them at home and see where we are then.
Quote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.
My three goals every year are get a first round bye, make it to Lake Placid (or wherever the tournament is), and make the NCAAs.
If we have a great year by RPI standards and wind up just outside the bubble because this season is a weird aberration, I won't be happy, but it'll be hard for me to fault the team's performance.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.
My three goals every year are get a first round bye, make it to Lake Placid (or wherever the tournament is), and make the NCAAs.
If we have a great year by RPI standards and wind up just outside the bubble because this season is a weird aberration, I won't be happy, but it'll be hard for me to fault the team's performance.
Well, I agree. If Cornell were, for example, the first team out of the NCAAs, I'd be terribly disappointed, but I'd be proud of the team.
In general, national ranking is by far the best and fairest benchmark for how good the season was.
Quote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that.
Lots of people like country music.
With 10 freshmen, we (16-5-5) come off a 14-game undefeated streak; 10 in conference (nearly half the conference schedule). We are in 2nd in league and won the Ivies. It's a very good season overall. It is ironic that Schafer has been and continues to be so successful that people unconsciously just assume that's a privilege we have. It isn't. Ask Harvard (5-17-4).
Holy crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
Quote from: upprdeckiceing, lose a draw, allow a crazy angle shot and goal then give away in OT behind the net.
Lots of things to go wrong to get a loss and why is Clarkon the place so many of them happen.
As the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.
I hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an
un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there. I don't have a count, but it feels like we've either lost a lead or the game a half-dozen times in the final minute there. I think there was a time Clarkson scored the tying goal with under 2 seconds left.
In 3 minutes of searching the last decade at Cheel:
11/15/2013: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:37 left
1/29/2016: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:28 left (in OT)
3/2/2019: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:43 left
12/4/2021: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:01 left. Cornell led by 4 with 6 minutes left.
2/23/2024: ...and the beat goes on...
They say the North Country trip is the hardest to sweep, and there's more proof.
Quote from: RichHI hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there.
Even less intimidating when their fans don't show up. That crowd was shockingly bad.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: RichHI hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there.
Even less intimidating when their fans don't show up. That crowd was shockingly bad.
It was break.
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass. You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.
Ah, February break, I see.
Still, their Townie attendance has gone the way of the dodo.
Quote from: RichHAs the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.
We weren't even facing the most dangerous lead in hockey, which is 4-0, of course.
We are not good at shutdown hockey this year. I'm going to chalk that up to having a bunch of freshmen. The struggles on the PK are in the same alley but are slightly more mystifying, because I have to admit Shane's been playing pretty hot.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass. You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.
jfc greg what the scalded babies are experiencing is "regret for what might have been."
our OOC schedule turned out, through no fault of our own, to be a dud, so our performance hasn't helped as much as we expected at the time. our early conference schedule is littered with inexplicable losses to, among others, a truly awful Harvard. as a result, now, in late February, when we blow a road W it reminds us that the long not-losing streak was necessary yet insufficient. all of that not-losing wasn't actually
winning in the new, weighted-results post-polls world. We had four ties and two wins in OT during the streak with more frustration than relief in those six games.
I don't need anyone to be as frustrated with the season as I am - a season that gives plenty of hope for the future - but my god does it grate to be smugly mocked for actually paying attention.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckiceing, lose a draw, allow a crazy angle shot and goal then give away in OT behind the net.
Lots of things to go wrong to get a loss and why is Clarkon the place so many of them happen.
As the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.
I hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there. I don't have a count, but it feels like we've either lost a lead or the game a half-dozen times in the final minute there. I think there was a time Clarkson scored the tying goal with under 2 seconds left.
In 3 minutes of searching the last decade at Cheel:
11/15/2013: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:37 left
1/29/2016: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:28 left (in OT)
3/2/2019: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:43 left
12/4/2021: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:01 left. Cornell led by 4 with 6 minutes left.
2/23/2024: ...and the beat goes on...
They say the North Country trip is the hardest to sweep, and there's more proof.
Digging a little further back: http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1996/box19960301.pdf
I also seem to remember sitting in a dining hall in 1990 hearing or reading about a tying goal where "The entire town of Potsdam was in the crease".
Quote from: Scersk '97Ah, February break, I see.
Still, their Townie attendance has gone the way of the dodo.
I would shake my head at this, but I'm not a big fan of crowded indoor spaces these days either.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
"Potsdam Greeks United" is a nice reminder of the fact that Clarkson and SUNY Potsdam (or whatever they're calling it these days) have a combined Greek system. This fact is also responsible for my sister's teddy bear having been mauled by the Clarkson hockey team's dog.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: RichHAs the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.
We weren't even facing the most dangerous lead in hockey, which is 4-0, of course.
We are not good at shutdown hockey this year. I'm going to chalk that up to having a bunch of freshmen. The struggles on the PK are in the same alley but are slightly more mystifying, because I have to admit Shane's been playing pretty hot.
But don't forget that everything will be cured once we start scoring on the powerplay!::burnout::
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass. You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.
jfc greg what the scalded babies are experiencing is "regret for what might have been."
our OOC schedule turned out, through no fault of our own, to be a dud, so our performance hasn't helped as much as we expected at the time. our early conference schedule is littered with inexplicable losses to, among others, a truly awful Harvard. as a result, now, in late February, when we blow a road W it reminds us that the long not-losing streak was necessary yet insufficient. all of that not-losing wasn't actually winning in the new, weighted-results post-polls world. We had four ties and two wins in OT during the streak with more frustration than relief in those six games.
I don't need anyone to be as frustrated with the season as I am - a season that gives plenty of hope for the future - but my god does it grate to be smugly mocked for actually paying attention.
Much of what I've been thinking. The "streak" wasn't really a streak and as much as I enjoy Harvard being terrible, they still haunt us with what turned out to be a truly damaging loss in the long run. I remember leaving Lynah that night furious and trying to explain to my family why. Now they see why. With our league schedule, we really can't afford to lose except to Q. Our OOC looked good on paper but ASU and UMD turned out to be not as good as hoped.
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.
Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."
Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.
Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."
They ring it for big hits in women's games, too. Which is sort of interesting because those could in theory wind up being penalties.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.
Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."
Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp? (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)
Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.
Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."
Huh, good to know. Maybe it stands out more cause the lack of crowd, yeah.
And it really sounded like a piped in effect to me. I know there's an infamous actual bell, but it sounded faker to me than usual. Then again, I guess I don't usually notice it, so I'm not sure what "usual" is.
Quote from: WederThey ring it for big hits in women's games, too. Which is sort of interesting because those could in theory wind up being penalties.
I was thinking that same thing during our game. What if there's a borderline hit on our guy and it's in review? That stupid bell ring might just be the psychological tip to the side of it being excessive.
The bell has been there as long as I can remember, like the goddamn train whistle, but I don't remember it punctuating hits. I remember it being disconnected from any particular action, though, so maybe it
was sometimes hits, but behind the play and out of frame.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?
It's stupid.
Not that I remember. It is idiotic.
Just for 67 years or so. http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html
(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)
Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers. I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.
Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades. https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/
The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::
The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.
I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.
Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."
Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp? (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)
The only electric bass I remember was at RPI during their national title run. It was awesome.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp? (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)
The only electric bass I remember was at RPI during their national title run. It was awesome.
Dunno if they still do, but Clarkson definitely had an electric bass player for a few years, maybe several. The guy travelled, too.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: WederThey ring it for big hits in women's games, too. Which is sort of interesting because those could in theory wind up being penalties.
I was thinking that same thing during our game. What if there's a borderline hit on our guy and it's in review? That stupid bell ring might just be the psychological tip to the side of it being excessive.
The bell has been there as long as I can remember, like the goddamn train whistle, but I don't remember it punctuating hits. I remember it being disconnected from any particular action, though, so maybe it was sometimes hits, but behind the play and out of frame.
I wrote in 1997 (https://amurgsval.org/joe/hockey/ncrt.html#summary)
QuoteI never saw the Bell in its heyday, but it would have been more impressive if they hadn't rung it at seemingly random times ("Yay, we completed a pass at the red line!").
The Clarkson overtime goal. A Clarkson takeaway in our end, and that's all she wrote.
https://billhoward.smugmug.com/ELynah/Cornell-Clarkson-2024-0224
in the coaches notes. something about a handpass on the clarkson goal they tied it up?
Quote from: upprdeckin the coaches notes. something about a handpass on the clarkson goal they tied it up?
They reviewed it for a hand pass. The puck left the face-off circle and then got knocked back in. Clarkson's center was down on his hands and knees, and the puck appeared to hit either his stick or his closed hand around his stick and then squirt back to the d-man. Held up on review.
coach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
Quote from: upprdeckcoach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
https://youtu.be/we5ik1oC-Z4?si=EL7WOyoGR6Qyinn5
Slow down this video to .25 speed and watch the tying Clarkson goal. Can someone explain how this isn't a hand pass? The Clarkson player pushes the puck backwards to a teammate with his hand.
I guess the coaches must have only realized it was a hand pass when watching the play the following day. Otherwise, seems like the challenge likely would have succeeded.
So, losing in OT on the road vs Clarkson instead of winning is worth how much RPI? Hopefully the season doesn't come down to this blown call/missed challenge.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckcoach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
https://youtu.be/we5ik1oC-Z4?si=EL7WOyoGR6Qyinn5
Slow down this video to .25 speed and watch the tying Clarkson goal. Can someone explain how this isn't a hand pass? The Clarkson player pushes the puck backwards to a teammate with his hand.
I guess the coaches must have only realized it was a hand pass when watching the play the following day. Otherwise, seems like the challenge likely would have succeeded.
So, losing in OT on the road vs Clarkson instead of winning is worth how much RPI? Hopefully the season doesn't come down to this blown call/missed challenge.
Watching it in real time, it looks like the puck just hits the player's stick rather than his hand. But in slow-mo, clearly looks like the hand. Easy to see how this was missed in real time. It is possible it hit the player's stick, but still looks like a hand motion to me, all things considered.
it all matters but if we had won the game in Reg we would still be in 16th though closer to 15. the same for Sat nights game.
Win both nights though we would be in 11th
Quote from: upprdeckit all matters but if we had won the game in Reg we would still be in 16th though closer to 15. the same for Sat nights game.
Win both nights though we would be in 11th
Funny to think the Clarkson game didn't have much impact... because the SLU tie was so bad it doesn't matter.
Quote from: upprdeckit all matters but if we had won the game in Reg we would still be in 16th though closer to 15. the same for Sat nights game.
Win both nights though we would be in 11th
The goal is to get an at-large bid by the end of the season. Thus, the difference in RPI for winning/losing is what matters, not whether we are 15 or 16 in a particular weekend before the end of the season. For example, at this point in the season it is much better to be 16th and a minuscule amount behind 12th than it is to be 15th with a huge gap before 14th. So the important question here is how much RPI we lost.
Sometimes, I think that in an effort to be more objective, we've replaced sound judgement with pernicious metrics. Case in point, we've replaced "smoke-filled" rooms with unrepresentative primaries, and look what we got, but I digress.
Back to important stuff. Some teams start slowly and peak at the right time, others peak too early. Tournament inclusion and seedings should take account of this. Human judgement, that is the selection committee, could ameliorate this to some degree. If two teams end up with similar metrics, give the edge to the team that finished stronger.
Here's a thought. Calculate a metric at season's end for each team's entire season and also for its final half, then average the two. This would account for the team's entire body of work, but also acknowledge its improvement or decline.
I'm quite pleased with this team overall and thankful of the bye weekend before the home ice playoff weekend, especially since the coach stated that guys are still sick.
Excited to see how this young team grows.
We were discussing this morning on who we think is the most understated yet effective player -too many come to mind. Haven't settled that discussion as of yet
Win the next 4 home games and then see what is what.. There is a good chance by then that winning the first night in Lake Placid is enough. How ever Quin losing anyplace along the way adds another dynamic as does the B10/HE/or ND not winning the NCHC. we could be up to 12th and still not get in..
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckcoach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
https://youtu.be/we5ik1oC-Z4?si=EL7WOyoGR6Qyinn5
Slow down this video to .25 speed and watch the tying Clarkson goal. Can someone explain how this isn't a hand pass? The Clarkson player pushes the puck backwards to a teammate with his hand.
I guess the coaches must have only realized it was a hand pass when watching the play the following day. Otherwise, seems like the challenge likely would have succeeded.
So, losing in OT on the road vs Clarkson instead of winning is worth how much RPI? Hopefully the season doesn't come down to this blown call/missed challenge.
OT loss on the road is
1.2 * 0.33333 = 0.400
OT tie on the road is
1.2 * 0.5 = 0.600
Quote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckcoach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
https://youtu.be/we5ik1oC-Z4?si=EL7WOyoGR6Qyinn5
Slow down this video to .25 speed and watch the tying Clarkson goal. Can someone explain how this isn't a hand pass? The Clarkson player pushes the puck backwards to a teammate with his hand.
I guess the coaches must have only realized it was a hand pass when watching the play the following day. Otherwise, seems like the challenge likely would have succeeded.
So, losing in OT on the road vs Clarkson instead of winning is worth how much RPI? Hopefully the season doesn't come down to this blown call/missed challenge.
OT loss on the road is
1.2 * 0.33333 = 0.400
OT tie on the road is
1.2 * 0.5 = 0.600
And, as I've blathered about before (and could be wrong), the opponent quality doesn't matter if you flip it unless the opponent is a team good enough to grant a quality win bonus (I think).
So OT loss @clarkson and OT tie @slu is the same as OT tie @clarkson and OT loss @slu.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckcoach said they reviewed for goalie interference not a hand pass. I dont think hockey looks at everything in a review like football does.
https://youtu.be/we5ik1oC-Z4?si=EL7WOyoGR6Qyinn5
Slow down this video to .25 speed and watch the tying Clarkson goal. Can someone explain how this isn't a hand pass? The Clarkson player pushes the puck backwards to a teammate with his hand.
I guess the coaches must have only realized it was a hand pass when watching the play the following day. Otherwise, seems like the challenge likely would have succeeded.
So, losing in OT on the road vs Clarkson instead of winning is worth how much RPI? Hopefully the season doesn't come down to this blown call/missed challenge.
OT loss on the road is
1.2 * 0.33333 = 0.400
OT tie on the road is
1.2 * 0.5 = 0.600
And, as I've blathered about before (and could be wrong), the opponent quality doesn't matter if you flip it unless the opponent is a team good enough to grant a quality win bonus (I think).
So OT loss @clarkson and OT tie @slu is the same as OT tie @clarkson and OT loss @slu.
Sorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
Quote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
Quote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
and the answer is .0056 -- which is quite a bit
Quote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
A most dangerous tool for the "if only" crowd here. It's a gateway to insanity, I tell you!! ;-)
Quote from: adamwQuote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
and the answer is .0056 -- which is quite a bit
Well, let's hope Cornell doesn't miss the NCAAs by .0056 RPI or less...
Quote from: RichHQuote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
A most dangerous tool for the "if only" crowd here. It's a gateway to insanity, I tell you!! ;-)
Many of us don't need another door.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: adamwQuote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
and the answer is .0056 -- which is quite a bit
Well, let's hope Cornell doesn't miss the NCAAs by .0056 RPI or less...
I'm not sure it was actually a hand pass. The puck hit the center in the hand (I think) but he didn't really push or throw the puck. Would that count?
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: adamwQuote from: adamwQuote from: BearLoverSorry, yeah—the question I'm asking is how much higher our RPI would be if we changed an OT loss to a regulation win. I only mentioned Clarkson because the clear outcome of an effective hand pass challenge would have made this hypothetical a reality.
1.200 for straight win - 0.400 for the OT loss ... but then obviously divide by all the games played so far - and that a team's own win% is only 21% of the overall RPI - and it's obviously a tiny amt. of points. But if you want to know exactly - go to CHN's Pairwise, click on "Customize" tab, and change Cornell to a win, and see the difference
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/
and the answer is .0056 -- which is quite a bit
Well, let's hope Cornell doesn't miss the NCAAs by .0056 RPI or less...
I'm not sure it was actually a hand pass. The puck hit the center in the hand (I think) but he didn't really push or throw the puck. Would that count?
I thought that at .25 speed it looked like he pushed the puck with his hand, but in real time it didn't. I assume the ruling hinges on whether he pushed the puck or not, but I'm not certain.
Quote from: fastforwardWe were discussing this morning on who we think is the most understated yet effective player -too many come to mind. Haven't settled that discussion as of yet
My vote right now would be for Devlin or Catalano.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: fastforwardWe were discussing this morning on who we think is the most understated yet effective player -too many come to mind. Haven't settled that discussion as of yet
My vote right now would be for Devlin or Catalano.
they certainly get more attention than those two, but I think that kempf and Penney aren't getting the recognition that they deserve.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: fastforwardWe were discussing this morning on who we think is the most understated yet effective player -too many come to mind. Haven't settled that discussion as of yet
My vote right now would be for Devlin or Catalano.
I agree and like when they're on the line with Kraft - he's another one that always puts the pedal to the metal. Glad O'Brien is getting time too. Always feel bad for the goalies that don't get in much but understand why.
It seems that Cornell plays poorly in critical games against teams with mediocre (or worse) records - but plays well against higher-ranked teams. The only reason I can think of to create such an anomaly would be poor preparation and/or poor focus. I miss the old "go-for-the-throat" days of Harkness hockey. For example: In the late 60's I was sitting in bleachers just a few feet directly above the walkway to the locker room at Colgate rink. It was the end of the second period, and Cornell was Clobbering Colgate.The last to pass under my seat on the way to the locker rooms to the locker rooms were Ned Harkness and the Colgate coach.I clearly heard the Colgate coach say "Ease up a bit" - or words to that effect - and just as clearly heard Harkness respond "Go F*** yourself!" Ned was a great communicator.
There goes the neighborhood
There were no humanitarian awards for coaches or players back then.
If I was a visiting coach and Harkness set -- and it couldn't be unset -- the heat to 85 degrees in the visitor locker room, I'd bring a fire axe the second year to improve ventilation, and for year three I'd bring a couple of fans the fire department uses to clear smoke. P.S, You ever seen a concrete-wall saw with a diamond-tip 14" blade? Works right quick.
I was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
By my count, we are 4-1-2 against currently ranked teams.
That leaves us at 12-4-4 against currently unranked teams.
Quote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
George, check your link. It seems broken and, consequently, takes us nowhere.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
George, check your link. It seems broken and, consequently, takes us nowhere.
It works for me (on my phone). It takes me to an issue I thought I had already downloaded and was looking for a few months ago, but couldn't find. A friend of mine is on the cover!
Thanks!
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
George, check your link. It seems broken and, consequently, takes us nowhere.
It works, but as a pdf download not a browser tab.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
George, check your link. It seems broken and, consequently, takes us nowhere.
My PC automatically blocked it but with an option to download it anyway.
Quote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
I'm the brown smudge behind the penalty box in the photograph on page 24.
Quote from: ACMQuote from: George64Quote from: osorojoI was hoping for a cogent explanation (or excuse) for current Cornell Men's hockey pitiful record against opponents ranked 20th best - or worse! I only mentioned past Cornell Ice Hockey glory because I still cherish memories of the Lou Mobbs and Paul Patton and Ned Harkness days.
Of course, I remember Paul Patton and Ned Harkness, but Lou Mobbs was only a vague memory, so I searched the Cornell website and came across this article (https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/f569a1a1-f864-4812-a7ba-0c580279ec4c/content) from the January/February 1993 Alumni News.
I'm the brown smudge behind the penalty box in the photograph on page 24.
Oh, that brown smudge!
Lou didn't get much recognition, but he ran a tight ship at Lynah. His employee, Jimmie, got more recognition at the end of the first and second periods. Fond memories of the old days of C.U. Men's D 1 Varsity Ice Hockey and its accomplishments - and hope you and I can get to see the Big Red once again lead U.S. College Hockey!