Hate hate hate. The only team we have failed to beat (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_H2H_by_Team.html) in conference play since La Peste.
Just win.
We lost in the fall before the team realized how bad Harvard would be. We lost to their reputation.
Yeah, I heard Mike's comment in the ASU post-game about our early games "playing afraid to lose" as pointedly about Fish 'N Fowl.
Quote from: billhowardWe lost in the fall before the team realized how bad Harvard would be. We lost to their reputation.
This. Last year was similar. We lost twice to a great Harvard team because we didn't believe we could win.
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: billhowardWe lost in the fall before the team realized how bad Harvard would be. We lost to their reputation.
This. Last year was similar. We lost twice to a great Harvard team because we didn't believe we could win.
We lost in LP because you lose a coin flip half the time.
Although Mike has lost 6 straight coin flips in the NC$$ QF (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_Bargraph_NCAA_Playoff.html). ::cry::
Quote from: arugulaQuote from: billhowardWe lost in the fall before the team realized how bad Harvard would be. We lost to their reputation.
This. Last year was similar. We lost twice to a great Harvard team because we didn't believe we could win.
Or that. When we lost in the fall, Harvard was five games removed from a 24-8-3 seasons with 3 wins over Cornell including the ECAC semifinal game.
They are 3-11-3 entering the @Harvard rematch. Now we know how they stand.
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Will be there tonight. I think it is my first game since my son was born. For everyone going, see you there!
Let's Go Red!!!
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Stealing...
And quoting so it comes up in the list a second time.
Whcu coming though again.
Quote from: arugulaWhcu coming though again.
Yup. But I assume it's a problem with the rink cabling.
Meanwhile, WHRB has Schonberg, Klavierstucke, Op. 11. I'd rather listen to Mark Levin.
Well, now it's serious. WHCU missed a commercial break.
Ah, reload and boom up.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: arugulaWhcu coming though again.
Yup. But I assume it's a problem with the rink cabling.
They're (outgoing) internet is down. Looks like I'll have to tolerate the ESPN+ announcers. UGH!!
Meh, it'll be fine. I wonder what happened to that Yale announcer from the 2010s...
Oh, maybe TV is also fucked?
Always seem to be issues at Lynah east. There was a Harvard student announcer several years ago who was quite good.
Nope, kicked n late.
Harvard announcer on the left has a textbook HYP Shit Eating Grin. It's genuinely impressive.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard announcer on the left has a textbook HYP Shit Eating Grin. It's genuinely impressive.
Indeed it is! Good observation
It's been too damn long since we've beaten the Donatoids. Let's (f-ing) Go Red!
Castagna draws a penalty. "Hit the hotdog!"
Gorgeous pp first shift.
I will forever stand by my philosophy that the more fishbowl helmets a team has the douchier they are.
Pressure kills. 1-zip.
Incredible job by Penney to go to the ice to get the puck, then to shovel it to O'Leary who picked the top stick-side corner to break the ice.
Crowd sounds great.
Well, holy balls, that was a good period! ::banana::
Keep it up.
Who is Zach Bryan?
BU 0 BC 0, end of 1.
I almost wonder if the goal on the challenge was simply to point out to the refs that they missed a call.
I'll throw up in my mouth a little, but the Harvard announcers have been excellent.
Need to tighten up. We've lost the thread a bit.
Quote from: TrotskyI'll throw up in my mouth a little, but the Harvard announcers have been excellent.
The current NJ Devils television PBP guy did Harvard games for a few years pre-pandemic, so they've had some competence in that department for at least some time
who is catalano in for?
Quote from: ugartewho is catalano in for?
He's been a regular lately. I think Donaldson is out because Wallace and Mack are both healthy at the same time.
Quote from: ugartewho is catalano in for?
He was the 4th line center both nights last weekend.
BC 2 BU 0
Quote from: ugartewho is catalano in for?
Two forward scratches (Donaldson and Kovich). The other scratches are defensemen.
I agree that the Harvard announcers are really good. Was the current NJ Devils announcer seriously doing Harvard games for ESPN+?
Anne says Cornell crowd sounds fantastic at the barn.
Harvard has 9 SOG through 44 minutes and we've had so many near misses. I'm going to lose my shit if this goes pear-shaped.
Quote from: BearLoverI agree that the Harvard announcers are really good. Was the current NJ Devils announcer seriously doing Harvard games for ESPN+?
Yes, Bill Spaulding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Spaulding_(sportscaster)), who actually has ties to upstate NY.
The announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
Good of them to show the salute and our crowd.
I am well satisfied.
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: BearLoverI agree that the Harvard announcers are really good. Was the current NJ Devils announcer seriously doing Harvard games for ESPN+?
Yes, Bill Spaulding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Spaulding_(sportscaster)), who actually has ties to upstate NY.
Yes, Bill is a great announcer. So that is amazing.
Quote from: chimpfoodThe announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
They spent way too much time talking about the PWR. Though, it was refreshing to hear a focus on the PWR rather than the conference standings. The Cornell announcers spend way too much time on the ECAC standings when it's the PWR ranking that really matters. The Harvard announcers were also wrong that Cornell needs to win out for an at-large bid. Cornell has little margin for error but they definitely don't need to literally win out.
Band sounded GREAT tonight too. Extra fun performances of Time Warp and Schafer Beer Victory Song.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: chimpfoodThe announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
They spent way too much time talking about the PWR. Though, it was refreshing to hear a focus on the PWR rather than the conference standings. The Cornell announcers spend way too much time on the ECAC standings when it's the PWR ranking that really matters. The Harvard announcers were also wrong that Cornell needs to win out for an at-large bid. Cornell has little margin for error but they definitely don't need to literally win out.
But to even go to the Pairwise topic when it's your opponent's important storyline is admirable. And what they said about winning out works for me. It is close enough to the truth that it's ok.
It might be wrong but certainly all of this is speculation. I seem to remember people speculating that we'd be below 20. Or was that just one guy?
Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: chimpfoodThe announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
They spent way too much time talking about the PWR. Though, it was refreshing to hear a focus on the PWR rather than the conference standings. The Cornell announcers spend way too much time on the ECAC standings when it's the PWR ranking that really matters. The Harvard announcers were also wrong that Cornell needs to win out for an at-large bid. Cornell has little margin for error but they definitely don't need to literally win out.
But to even go to the Pairwise topic when it's your opponent's important storyline is admirable. And what they said about winning out works for me. It is close enough to the truth that it's ok.
It might be wrong but certainly all of this is speculation. I seem to remember people speculating that we'd be below 20. Or was that just one guy?
A lot of smart people thought that
I love beating that team (http://www.tbrw.info/reports/rptCornell_Games_vs_Opponent/rptCornell_Games_vs_Harvard.pdf).
at least the PP had a few chances.. Also didnt help the one clear trip on the PP went ignored as we were about to pull the trigger.
Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: chimpfoodThe announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
They spent way too much time talking about the PWR. Though, it was refreshing to hear a focus on the PWR rather than the conference standings. The Cornell announcers spend way too much time on the ECAC standings when it's the PWR ranking that really matters. The Harvard announcers were also wrong that Cornell needs to win out for an at-large bid. Cornell has little margin for error but they definitely don't need to literally win out.
But to even go to the Pairwise topic when it's your opponent's important storyline is admirable. And what they said about winning out works for me. It is close enough to the truth that it's ok.
It might be wrong but certainly all of this is speculation. I seem to remember people speculating that we'd be below 20. Or was that just one guy?
+1
The color guy correction rink side guy is a little stiff. He also asked a two-part question between periods of the player rather than one and a follow-up.
Also not sure why they use a greenscreen background of the empty rink once the game has started. I mean, Bright actually had some fans there.
When the announcers announce "rink is full" they should have shown on-ice action as the feed, masking the hundreds of empty seats.
But, they were okay announcers and not horrible homers.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: chimpfoodThe announcers have been repeating the same exact thing for about 5 minutes now.
They spent way too much time talking about the PWR. Though, it was refreshing to hear a focus on the PWR rather than the conference standings. The Cornell announcers spend way too much time on the ECAC standings when it's the PWR ranking that really matters. The Harvard announcers were also wrong that Cornell needs to win out for an at-large bid. Cornell has little margin for error but they definitely don't need to literally win out.
if go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Always good for a chuckle when the announcer, in acknowledging the large Cornell contingent in a visiting rink, says "they always travel well from Ithaca." As if there aren't thousands of Cornell alumns within spitting distance of most of the rinks we play in.
Quote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
Quote from: scoop85Always good for a chuckle when the announcer, in acknowledging the large Cornell contingent in a visiting rink, says "they always travel well from Ithaca." As if there aren't thousands of Cornell alumns within spitting distance of most of the rinks we play in.
Lol, it's total fantasy land stuff. "The Ithacans came in droves of stagecoaches and caravans across the hinterlands, picking up merriment seeking hitchhikers along the turnpike, as they are wont to do"
Quote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
the current run includes teams that for the most part helped us in RPI.. the last 10 or so are all teams below us and its losing/Tie to them that hurt us in RPI in the start of the season.
Harv/Princ/Colg/Dart/Quin We got back 3 with Dart tonight. Thats about all you could ask
Clark is the only team left thats an over .500 team
[b]H A[/b]
1. Qpc .821 2 0
2. Clk .697
3. Cgt .606 0 3
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5. Uni .556
6. Brn .487 3
7. SLU .485
8. Drt .389 2
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9. Hvd .359 0 3
Prn .359 3 1
11. Yal .357 3
12. RPI .333
Looking at the play again, I still wonder why the refs didn't just award a goal when O'Leary was taken down on his way to the empty net. He was definitely tripped and he had already gotten ahead of the defender.
Quote from: IcebergLooking at the play again, I still wonder why the refs didn't just award a goal when O'Leary was taken down on his way to the empty net. He was definitely tripped and he had already gotten ahead of the defender.
When I saw the replay I thought it was a good poke. Jack was diving to push the puck into the net. He was not brought down by the stick. The stick made contact with him after his sprawled forward. But I only saw one replay and could be wrong.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
I will say - they are unfortunately not THAT fluid anymore, especially with the weak Cornell schedule from here. Every loss is going to be really bad. As the guy who said Cornell would have a very good year despite the losses -- when most here were assuming otherwise -- I have a vested interest in hoping my prediction comes true :-) ... so every game is a nailbiter right now.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
I will say - they are unfortunately not THAT fluid anymore, especially with the weak Cornell schedule from here. Every loss is going to be really bad. As the guy who said Cornell would have a very good year despite the losses -- when most here were assuming otherwise -- I have a vested interest in hoping my prediction comes true :-) ... so every game is a nailbiter right now.
The cutoff for making the NCAAs is usually around a .54 RPI. Obviously this depends on the number of at large bids, but I'm holding out hope that things will settle around there again. Cornell's currently at .5517, which is pretty good.
Then again, maybe this is just a weird year where the top quarter is way better than the rest of the pack. 11-4-3 is only the 10th best record. I expected we'd be higher up than that.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
I will say - they are unfortunately not THAT fluid anymore, especially with the weak Cornell schedule from here. Every loss is going to be really bad. As the guy who said Cornell would have a very good year despite the losses -- when most here were assuming otherwise -- I have a vested interest in hoping my prediction comes true :-) ... so every game is a nailbiter right now.
I cede the point, but I'm still going to watch to see what this team is made of. It appears they're putting things together both in play and attitude, which could indicate a fun stretch for a team so young.
Also, I wanted to deny that the autocorrect in my message indicates any Pennsylvania gas station food chain preference.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: IcebergLooking at the play again, I still wonder why the refs didn't just award a goal when O'Leary was taken down on his way to the empty net. He was definitely tripped and he had already gotten ahead of the defender.
When I saw the replay I thought it was a good poke. Jack was diving to push the puck into the net. He was not brought down by the stick. The stick made contact with him after his sprawled forward. But I only saw one replay and could be wrong.
Still its college rules so even a great poke check that takes him down with the puck is a penalty unlike the Pros. Did they change that rule?
I was also a bit surprised that they didnt call the penalty on the high stick earlier they reviewed. Almost took his helmet off as well on the play. But can they only elevate that to a major in review and decided that it was a minor they just missed?
Quote from: upprdeckQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: IcebergLooking at the play again, I still wonder why the refs didn't just award a goal when O'Leary was taken down on his way to the empty net. He was definitely tripped and he had already gotten ahead of the defender.
When I saw the replay I thought it was a good poke. Jack was diving to push the puck into the net. He was not brought down by the stick. The stick made contact with him after his sprawled forward. But I only saw one replay and could be wrong.
Still its college rules so even a great poke check that takes him down with the puck is a penalty unlike the Pros. Did they change that rule?
I was also a bit surprised that they didnt call the penalty on the high stick earlier they reviewed. Almost took his helmet off as well on the play. But can they only elevate that to a major in review and decided that it was a minor they just missed?
I think that's correct. It was a definite obvious high stick, but it wasn't a major.
I think the nearby ref there straight up missed it. He was focused on the puck and didn't catch the high stick in his line of vision.
Speaking of the PP, there was a lot more down low movement compared to the past games. No goal came of it but it made the Harvard PKers actually have to work
Quote from: RichHQuote from: adamwQuote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
I will say - they are unfortunately not THAT fluid anymore, especially with the weak Cornell schedule from here. Every loss is going to be really bad. As the guy who said Cornell would have a very good year despite the losses -- when most here were assuming otherwise -- I have a vested interest in hoping my prediction comes true :-) ... so every game is a nailbiter right now.
I cede the point, but I'm still going to watch to see what this team is made of. It appears they're putting things together both in play and attitude, which could indicate a fun stretch for a team so young.
Also, I wanted to deny that the autocorrect in my message indicates any Pennsylvania gas station food chain preference.
Especially since you picked the wrong one!
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: adamwQuote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckif go on any kind of a run we get our RPI above .5600 and we move up 3-5 spots.. Are we good enough to do that.
Like unbeaten in their last 7? That kind of run?
Some of us need to chill out about the PWR situation in January and enjoy the rest of the regular season. We've barely begun the 2nd half of the league slate. Things are typically still fluid into March. Sheetz.
I will say - they are unfortunately not THAT fluid anymore, especially with the weak Cornell schedule from here. Every loss is going to be really bad. As the guy who said Cornell would have a very good year despite the losses -- when most here were assuming otherwise -- I have a vested interest in hoping my prediction comes true :-) ... so every game is a nailbiter right now.
The cutoff for making the NCAAs is usually around a .54 RPI. Obviously this depends on the number of at large bids, but I'm holding out hope that things will settle around there again. Cornell's currently at .5517, which is pretty good.
Then again, maybe this is just a weird year where the top quarter is way better than the rest of the pack. 11-4-3 is only the 10th best record. I expected we'd be higher up than that.
Also skewing the situation is that typically you only need to get the 15th slot to avoid getting bumped out by the Atlantic Hockey autobid, but this year the CCHA winner (who I'm pretty sure gets an autobid) will also almost certainly fall out of the top 16, so we really need to get to 14 if we don't win at LP.
Classic trap game tonight against the Green and their 9 foot tall goalie.
Quote from: IcebergI think the nearby ref there straight up missed it. He was focused on the puck and didn't catch the high stick in his line of vision.
One of the Harvard announcers posited that Schafer might have asked for the review just to get the refs to realize they missed an obvious call and might "owe us" one later, rather than hoping they would actually call it a major.
I'm feeling good about making it to LP as the 2 or 3 seed then taking down Q in the title game. Then they gotta take us.
But not feeling so good Cornell shouldn't beef up RPI.
Quote from: RichHAlso, I wanted to deny that the autocorrect in my message indicates any Pennsylvania gas station food chain preference.
Living in Denver now, I long for either. And a good chicken parm sandwich. And a bagel that isn't soggy or cost $15.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: RichHAlso, I wanted to deny that the autocorrect in my message indicates any Pennsylvania gas station food chain preference.
Living in Denver now, I long for either. And a good chicken parm sandwich. And a bagel that isn't soggy or cost $15.
Rosenberg's. Not cheap but bagels equal to any I ever had in Ithaca or NYC. Can't help with the chicken parm sandwich, unfortunately.
Quote from: dag14Quote from: adamwQuote from: RichHAlso, I wanted to deny that the autocorrect in my message indicates any Pennsylvania gas station food chain preference.
Living in Denver now, I long for either. And a good chicken parm sandwich. And a bagel that isn't soggy or cost $15.
Rosenberg's. Not cheap but bagels equal to any I ever had in Ithaca or NYC. Can't help with the chicken parm sandwich, unfortunately.
Like I said, one that doesn't cost $15. I think you need to put up your house as collateral to get a pound of corned beef there.