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Title: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 06:29:22 PM
Revenge!

Most GA, Schafer:

0 - at Colorado College ... 11  1995-12-27  
0 - at Yale ............... 11  1998-02-08
0 - at Quinnipiac ......... 10  2013-03-16  ECAC QF Game 2
0 - vs Ohio State .........  8  2015-12-29  
1 - at St. Lawrence .......  8  2009-01-30  
[b]4 - at Quinnipiac .........  8  2023-11-17[/b]
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 07:08:55 PM
Suda out, Mosko moves up, Donaldson the extra skater.  4 of 6 D-men are freshmen.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 07:17:53 PM
Wow, is this pace fast.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2024, 07:22:17 PM
Section A almost completely empty. Will BigDingus try to claim it was full?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: dag14 on January 20, 2024, 07:31:59 PM
We scored, but I didn't actually see the goal....
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: dag14 on January 20, 2024, 07:32:27 PM
Bancroft
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dunc on January 20, 2024, 07:39:02 PM
Quote from: BearLoverSection A almost completely empty. Will BigDingus try to claim it was full?

Big Dingus is section A didn't u know?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 07:41:46 PM
Quote from: dag14We scored, but I didn't actually see the goal....
I finally cracked the code.  I just have to leave the room to pee.

I mean, I'm not sure I have to leave the room...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 07:46:31 PM
Updating after the Clarkson loss, winning percentage of derp points in conference:

1. .848 Qpc
 2. .667 Clk
 3. .556 Cgt
    [color=#b31313].556 Cor[/color]
 5. .545 Uni
 6. .487 Brn
 7. .481 SLU
 8. .417 Yal
 9. .394 Hvd
10. .389 Prn
11. .364 RPI
12. .333 Drt
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 20, 2024, 08:00:18 PM
This probably correlates strongly with how much we hate Q but... Pecknold coaches them to play with confidence and purpose. Their positioning in the defensive zone is clean, they are aggressive on the forecheck and they don't idly knock the puck back and forth when they have possession. We're holding our own but something about what I'm watching got my typing fingers going.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 20, 2024, 08:07:13 PM
Thank god Fegaras let that one go (and good on Psenicka for calling for it and getting the tip). I was getting mad as hell about two more minutes of the umbrella bullshit on the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Iceberg on January 20, 2024, 08:09:14 PM
The umbrella PP needs to go. Occasionally it works such as on the 2nd goal, but no movement below the faceoff dots makes it too easy for PKers
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 20, 2024, 08:17:26 PM
Shoutout to Hank Suarez... nvm
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2024, 08:25:59 PM
Quote from: IcebergThe umbrella PP needs to go. Occasionally it works such as on the 2nd goal, but no movement below the faceoff dots makes it too easy for PKers
I don't think it "worked" on the 2nd goal. The second goal was a shot from the point that was deflected and didn't have anything to do with the fact the D passed it around at the point repeatedly. The Cornell PP sucks. If the D isn't giving you anything down low and is blocking the passing lanes, shoot it on net for a deflection or rebound. That's how the 2nd goal was scored. Not from endless passing at the blue line.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 20, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: IcebergThe umbrella PP needs to go. Occasionally it works such as on the 2nd goal, but no movement below the faceoff dots makes it too easy for PKers
I don't think it "worked" on the 2nd goal. The second goal was a shot from the point that was deflected and didn't have anything to do with the fact the D passed it around at the point repeatedly. The Cornell PP sucks. If the D isn't giving you anything down low and is blocking the passing lanes, shoot it on net for a deflection or rebound. That's how the 2nd goal was scored. Not from endless passing at the blue line.
I think he's saying the same thing. Ondrej made the play by stepping in front of the defender bodying him and calling for the puck. Possible that he gets benched by Schafer for moving his skates on the interior.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 09:15:52 PM
We have been playing well since our last kill.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 09:18:04 PM
Seger has recovered tonight in FO, 18-8.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 09:19:37 PM
We need to deaden the opponent's bench for stick banging, it's irritating.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 09:21:42 PM
Oh, Walshie.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 20, 2024, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWe need to deaden the opponent's bench for stick banging, it's irritating.

Right? Like, stop that. Please.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: French Rage on January 20, 2024, 09:42:33 PM
Wooooo!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 20, 2024, 09:45:40 PM
Wooo.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 20, 2024, 09:46:17 PM
Woooooo
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 09:47:24 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: arugula on January 20, 2024, 09:48:52 PM
Q drops from 5 to 8.  We go from 16 to ....... 16.   Discuss.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2024, 09:56:19 PM
Quote from: arugulaQ drops from 5 to 8.  We go from 16 to ....... 16.   Discuss.
Yeah, our spot in the Pairwise is brutal. As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, there was a big gap between Cornell and the top 15 heading into the weekend, and the top 15 is almost all national powers who have managed to keep winning over the past few weeks. The gap is now smaller, but it's still enough that Cornell is in a very precarious position.

Cornell is playing pretty well, let's hope they can keep it going and stack up wins. I remain worried about Harvard next week.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2024, 09:58:09 PM
Awful second, great third. Overall I thought Cornell played alright against one of the best teams in the country. Our PP continues to be the weak link. It improved a bit as the game went on, but still way too little of getting pucks to the net.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: arugula on January 20, 2024, 10:01:06 PM
Now I think we need to pretty much win out to lock up a spot.   Against the remaining schedule it's possible but hard to expect us to not slip up once or twice.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 20, 2024, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: arugulaQ drops from 5 to 8.  We go from 16 to ....... 16.   Discuss.
Yeah, our spot in the Pairwise is brutal. As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, there was a big gap between Cornell and the top 15 heading into the weekend, and the top 15 is almost all national powers who have managed to keep winning over the past few weeks. The gap is now smaller, but it's still enough that Cornell is in a very precarious position.

Cornell is playing pretty well, let's hope they can keep it going and stack up wins. I remain worried about Harvard next week.

An RPI of .54 is usually the cutoff to get in. We're just over .55. I'm not sure if it's usual for the top 16 to be higher earlier in the year. But I'm choosing to believe that this is a good sign. 10-4-3 with some big wins is very good.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: chimpfood on January 20, 2024, 10:15:16 PM
Beautiful rip from Bancroft, what a win.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 20, 2024, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: arugulaQ drops from 5 to 8.  We go from 16 to ....... 16.   Discuss.
Yeah, our spot in the Pairwise is brutal. As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, there was a big gap between Cornell and the top 15 heading into the weekend, and the top 15 is almost all national powers who have managed to keep winning over the past few weeks. The gap is now smaller, but it's still enough that Cornell is in a very precarious position.

Cornell is playing pretty well, let's hope they can keep it going and stack up wins. I remain worried about Harvard next week.

An RPI of .54 is usually the cutoff to get in. We're just over .55. I'm not sure if it's usual for the top 16 to be higher earlier in the year. But I'm choosing to believe that this is a good sign. 10-4-3 with some big wins is very good.
I guess we need to hope the teams in the top 15 play each other and knock each other out. Aside from Quinnipiac, they're literally all Hockey East, NCHC, or Big 10 teams.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2024, 11:00:18 PM
St. Thomas is leading the CCHA? Huh.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 20, 2024, 11:12:07 PM
I hope to hear the dull thud of that Bancroft goal over and over in my dreams tonight The guys were so pumped to win that one.  It was great to see the synchronized bouncing in the celebration and also the way they raced up the tunnel after the salute.  That was such a weird game.  Under ten shots on goal into the third.  A short handed goal against.  A penalty shot goal.  So many stops and starts with very little sustained play.  The Big Red finally wore them down around the midway point of the third.  Penney and Devlin both had some crushing hits.  There hadn't been much physicality early on so it was nice to get that part of their game going in time to turn the tide. That opened up the ice for them to find their offensive game.  I'm going to believe all this upcoming week that tonight was the emotional turning point of this season.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: sah67 on January 20, 2024, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromKBig Red finally wore them down around the midway point of the third.  Penney and Devlin both had some crushing hits.  There hadn't been much physicality early on so it was nice to get that part of their game going in time to turn the tide. That opened up the ice for them to find their offensive game.

I was wondering if Schafer emphasized the hitting during the second intermission, because it was very noticeable given how little physicality there was in the first two periods. The big hits definitely seemed to help turn the tide, especially after going into survival mode for most of the second period.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 20, 2024, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromKI hope to hear the dull thud of that Bancroft goal over and over in my dreams tonight The guys were so pumped to win that one.  It was great to see the synchronized bouncing in the celebration and also the way they raced up the tunnel after the salute.  That was such a weird game.  Under ten shots on goal into the third.  A short handed goal against.  A penalty shot goal.  So many stops and starts with very little sustained play.  The Big Red finally wore them down around the midway point of the third.  Penney and Devlin both had some crushing hits.  There hadn't been much physicality early on so it was nice to get that part of their game going in time to turn the tide. That opened up the ice for them to find their offensive game.  I'm going to believe all this upcoming week that tonight was the emotional turning point of this season.

My impression was that there we had a couple SOG in the first period that somehow didn't get counted.  And at least one Q shot in the third that went wide that Shane gloved anyway that was counted.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 21, 2024, 12:23:02 AM
Quote from: BearLoverOur PP continues to be the weak link. It improved a bit as the game went on, but still way too little of getting pucks to the net.
the pp that got cut short by the Fegaras interference penalty was a blitzkrieg. more of that, please.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: marty on January 21, 2024, 07:19:33 AM
Great extended post game press conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8S8Z9OSxew) with comments from Dalton Bancroft.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: Big Dingus on January 21, 2024, 08:40:20 AM
lol at the haters on the student section. Feels like at this point you guys enjoy when it's empty

Mainly BearLover of course
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 21, 2024, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: TrotskySt. Thomas is leading the CCHA? Huh.

2 leagues who wont likely get a top 16 team so need to find a way to get into the top 14.

even winning last night in Reg would have  moved us to 15.

Root for BU/BC/Maine to play well down the stretch and Mass/Prov/UNH to stumble a bit more.

Umass has 5 games vs those top 3
UNH has 6
Prov has 5

lose all of them and then stumble a bit to lower teams would be nice.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Iceberg on January 21, 2024, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: ugartethe pp that got cut short by the Fegaras interference penalty was a blitzkrieg. more of that, please.

That was one of the scummiest attempts to draw a penalty I've seen. The Q player clearly backed into him and them embellished so well that he could've gotten an Oscar nomination. Thankfully it didn't result in anything
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: Chris '03 on January 21, 2024, 10:10:49 AM
Quote from: Big Dinguslol at the haters on the student section. Feels like at this point you guys enjoy when it's empty

Mainly BearLover of course

It is what it is. I think the point is that people are going to push back when you come on here and declare how full it is but the broadcast shows huge empty sections.

We'd all love to see a full student section night in and night out. But that's not the present reality.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 21, 2024, 10:23:22 AM
weather probably kept  few people home last night, but student effort has been poorish for several years now..
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 21, 2024, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: upprdeckweather probably kept  few people home last night, but student effort has been poorish for several years now..

There have been some games this year where the student crowd sounded louder on the feed than I've heard them since 2019-20 or so, for what that's worth.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: JasonN95 on January 21, 2024, 10:32:02 AM
Aren't students returning this weekend? If yes, I'd wait for the next home weekend to evaluate the student section.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: CU2007 on January 21, 2024, 10:53:15 AM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Big Dinguslol at the haters on the student section. Feels like at this point you guys enjoy when it's empty

Mainly BearLover of course

It is what it is. I think the point is that people are going to push back when you come on here and declare how full it is but the broadcast shows huge empty sections.

We'd all love to see a full student section night in and night out. But that's not the present reality.

Some of this might be shenanigans but some can be attributed to perspective / site lines . I have been at games (not Cornell) and looked across the rink at a section and said "wow that section is half empty, I am going to cheat into that section for a better view than the seat I paid for." But then when I actually get there in the thick of it, it seems there are WAY fewer seats than I saw, and it's awkward, and I panic, and go back to my original crummy seat with my tail between my legs. Maybe it's just me?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: andyw2100 on January 21, 2024, 11:04:02 AM
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: ugartethe pp that got cut short by the Fegaras interference penalty was a blitzkrieg. more of that, please.

That was one of the scummiest attempts to draw a penalty I've seen. The Q player clearly backed into him and them embellished so well that he could've gotten an Oscar nomination. Thankfully it didn't result in anything

And came off the ice openly laughing about it!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: scoop85 on January 21, 2024, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: JasonN95Aren't students returning this weekend? If yes, I'd wait for the next home weekend to evaluate the student section.

In our day we'd be sure to come back Friday when break ended to attend both of the weekend games. It was a sacrifice of course to spend the weekend at school with no schoolwork to worry about, but that was before Cornell apparently became a place where fun came to die.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 21, 2024, 11:15:25 AM
I thought it was appropriate that Mack got credit for an assist on the game winner.  He drove the offense on some of their finer scoring chances later in the game.  How often though do you assist on a goal of a player who replaces you on a line change?  Mack handed it off to Robertson as they exited the zone and went for the change.  Bancroft comes on and meets Robertson as he comes around the net.  Eleven seconds after Mack gave up possession of the puck the game is over.  I'm sure it happens more often with this OT format as guys bring the puck back out and reset but I hadn't considered it before.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 21, 2024, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: JasonN95Aren't students returning this weekend? If yes, I'd wait for the next home weekend to evaluate the student section.

In our day we'd be sure to come back Friday when break ended to attend both of the weekend games. It was a sacrifice of course to spend the weekend at school with no schoolwork to worry about, but that was before Cornell apparently became a place where fun came to die.

Exactly this! Some of the most memorable--or is it least memorable--parties I attended occurred on the Fridays and Saturdays (and often Sundays) right at the end of Winter Break. The band always came back to campus in style.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: CAS on January 21, 2024, 11:50:52 AM
Last nite's game was sold out.  No tickets were available yesterday for the game.  Re our frosh, they have been outstanding.  They account for about 40% of our goals & assists this year.  If Robertson gets drafted this year, that would make 6 of the frosh class.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: Swampy on January 21, 2024, 12:20:36 PM
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Big Dinguslol at the haters on the student section. Feels like at this point you guys enjoy when it's empty

Mainly BearLover of course

It is what it is. I think the point is that people are going to push back when you come on here and declare how full it is but the broadcast shows huge empty sections.

We'd all love to see a full student section night in and night out. But that's not the present reality.

Some of this might be shenanigans but some can be attributed to perspective / site lines . I have been at games (not Cornell) and looked across the rink at a section and said "wow that section is half empty, I am going to cheat into that section for a better view than the seat I paid for." But then when I actually get there in the thick of it, it seems there are WAY fewer seats than I saw, and it's awkward, and I panic, and go back to my original crummy seat with my tail between my legs. Maybe it's just me?

Or lots of other people who had the same idea? ::doh::
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: chimpfood on January 21, 2024, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Big Dinguslol at the haters on the student section. Feels like at this point you guys enjoy when it's empty

Mainly BearLover of course
nobody is blaming you and the students there because you guys are the ones who actually show up. It's just understandably disappointing to see less interest in something that we all care so much about.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 21, 2024, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: CASLast nite's game was sold out.  No tickets were available yesterday for the game.  Re our frosh, they have been outstanding.  They account for about 40% of our goals & assists this year.  If Robertson gets drafted this year, that would make 6 of the frosh class.
Yeah it was sold out.. aboout 10 min into the first period though Section O had a huge section of empty seats.

So people came late or spread out
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2024, 02:19:11 PM
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: ugartethe pp that got cut short by the Fegaras interference penalty was a blitzkrieg. more of that, please.

That was one of the scummiest attempts to draw a penalty I've seen. The Q player clearly backed into him and them embellished so well that he could've gotten an Oscar nomination. Thankfully it didn't result in anything
I thought it was hilarious.  He literally (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N48eBy5pgM&ab_channel=KevinLammi) looked at him, backed into him, then threw himself on the ice sprawling.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2024, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: JasonN95Aren't students returning this weekend? If yes, I'd wait for the next home weekend to evaluate the student section.

In our day we'd be sure to come back Friday when break ended to attend both of the weekend games. It was a sacrifice of course to spend the weekend at school with no schoolwork to worry about, but that was before Cornell apparently became a place where fun came to die.

Exactly this! Some of the most memorable--or is it least memorable--parties I attended occurred on the Fridays and Saturdays (and often Sundays) right at the end of Winter Break. The band always came back to campus in style.
In the late 80s, early 90s the ECAC schedule was pretty much fixed year to year.  The first conference weekend in January was typically UVM-RPI, and we'd get extremely engaged crowds of the students who came back early both for hockey and, um.  They were not numerous but if anything they were louder and more exuberant than normal -- what I imagine 60s and early 70s crowds to have been like.  They tended to be a different type of crowd because the Facetimers were still back in NYC and Five Towns.  There was also no band, and it was Fucking Cold, so the fans needed to create their own energy, and did.

That was a fun few years, about which I am hazy on details.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Big Dingus on January 21, 2024, 02:32:20 PM
Also students just show up late. That definitely needs to be worked on but it fills up much more than at the start of the 1st
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2024, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: Big DingusAlso students just show up late. That definitely needs to be worked on but it fills up much more than at the start of the 1st
Been true for 20 years.  The solution (GA) is not practical though by god you'd see a real crowd then.  Darwin works wonders.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: dag14 on January 21, 2024, 03:01:51 PM
As a student in the 60-70's, I didn't know enough to get season tickets.  As a townie with season tickets [stood in line for a long time], starting in 1976, we arrived an hour early to watch warmups.  And to get the best spots on the rail because standing room in old Lynah was way better than seats in Section N!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: French Rage on January 21, 2024, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: JasonN95Aren't students returning this weekend? If yes, I'd wait for the next home weekend to evaluate the student section.

In our day we'd be sure to come back Friday when break ended to attend both of the weekend games. It was a sacrifice of course to spend the weekend at school with no schoolwork to worry about, but that was before Cornell apparently became a place where fun came to die.

Exactly this! Some of the most memorable--or is it least memorable--parties I attended occurred on the Fridays and Saturdays (and often Sundays) right at the end of Winter Break. The band always came back to campus in style.

Given the preceding week is rush week, it's a good week to be back; even if you're not Greek, there are enough events here and there to keep one busy in between the games.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Big Dingus on January 21, 2024, 03:59:19 PM
The students don't come back now because they are all in Europe skiing. Welcome to the new Ivy League
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 21, 2024, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Big DingusThe students don't come back now because they are all in Europe skiing. Welcome to the new Ivy League
Sounds similar to the old Ivy League.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on January 21, 2024, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: scoop85In our day we'd be sure to come back Friday when break ended to attend both of the weekend games. It was a sacrifice of course to spend the weekend at school with no schoolwork to worry about, but that was before Cornell apparently became a place where fun came to die.

And we spent the night at Barton Hall to buy session tickets the next morning.  In the years before they opened Barton, we began lining up outside Teagle at five a.m. in the bitter cold.  Just a bunch of pampered, over-privileged wusses today, too busy sipping craft cocktails in Collegetown.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Iceberg on January 21, 2024, 06:07:27 PM
Classes start tomorrow so I think this is a case of a lot of students just waiting until the last minute to return to campus. For all the folks like me who tried to get back from the break earlier, there were a great many who didn't and I'm sure that's still the case.


As far as rush week goes, it has changed a lot in the past one to two decades as Greek Life has been tagged with more restrictions. Up until a certain point in the Skorton years, rush week was a full week before classes, and so the campus would be very quiet and devoid of undergrads aside from the students who were participating in Greek Life events either as hosts or guests. For anyone who wasn't involved in Greek Life, there really wasn't anything to do. Usually, there would be hockey games on a weekend around that time but they definitely wouldn't be at full strength attendance or atmosphere.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: chimpfood on January 21, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
I don't think this is because of different generations, it can be traced back pretty clearly to the pandemic. Crowds in the 19-20 season were great and having a year off and then limited capacity is likely what did it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 21, 2024, 07:38:11 PM
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskySt. Thomas is leading the CCHA? Huh.

2 leagues who wont likely get a top 16 team so need to find a way to get into the top 14.

even winning last night in Reg would have  moved us to 15.

Root for BU/BC/Maine to play well down the stretch and Mass/Prov/UNH to stumble a bit more.

Umass has 5 games vs those top 3
UNH has 6
Prov has 5

lose all of them and then stumble a bit to lower teams would be nice.
UNH lost to UConn today, so we're up to 15 now.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Chris '03 on January 21, 2024, 07:57:26 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskySt. Thomas is leading the CCHA? Huh.

2 leagues who wont likely get a top 16 team so need to find a way to get into the top 14.

even winning last night in Reg would have  moved us to 15.

Root for BU/BC/Maine to play well down the stretch and Mass/Prov/UNH to stumble a bit more.

Umass has 5 games vs those top 3
UNH has 6
Prov has 5

lose all of them and then stumble a bit to lower teams would be nice.
UNH lost to UConn today, so we're up to 15 now.

Looks like uconn and unh played a women's men's doubleheader. Wish there was more (any?) of that in the ecac.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 21, 2024, 09:51:06 PM
we need another good weekend and get some help from the teams 3-4 spots ahead of us.

our margin is gonna be small.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2024, 07:55:55 AM
Quote from: upprdeckwe need another good weekend and get some help from the teams 3-4 spots ahead of us.

our margin is gonna be small.

We need seven more good weekends.  But so what?

Some philosophy.  This Winter is a lesson that the NC$$s can't be the overdetermining goal.  Enjoy the games one at a time, and let PWR take care of itself.  This is, in microcosm, the human problem of worrying about the future and never savoring the present.

We just beat Quinnipiac!  Marinate in that.  Enjoy the fruits of fandom.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on January 22, 2024, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckwe need another good weekend and get some help from the teams 3-4 spots ahead of us.

our margin is gonna be small.

We need seven more good weekends.  But so what?

Some philosophy.  This Winter is a lesson that the NC$$s can't be the overdetermining goal.  Enjoy the games one at a time, and let PWR take care of itself.  This is, in microcosm, the human problem of worrying about the future and never savoring the present.

We just beat Quinnipiac!  Marinate in that.  Enjoy the fruits of fandom.

Well said!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 22, 2024, 09:34:15 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckwe need another good weekend and get some help from the teams 3-4 spots ahead of us.

our margin is gonna be small.

We need seven more good weekends.  But so what?

Some philosophy.  This Winter is a lesson that the NC$$s can't be the overdetermining goal.  Enjoy the games one at a time, and let PWR take care of itself.  This is, in microcosm, the human problem of worrying about the future and never savoring the present.

We just beat Quinnipiac!  Marinate in that.  Enjoy the fruits of fandom.
Not only beat them, but held them scoreless 6 on 6 and on the kill.  With four freshmen d-men skating.  And five freshmen forwards.  Q was averaging 4+ per game, third (I think) in the country.  Stop kvetching.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2024, 12:25:42 PM
At some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1989 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 22, 2024, 12:27:14 PM
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2024, 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
LOL.  Wow.

I'm not sure how we'd have 3 freshman forwards out there at once -- must have been on a change.

I'll need to do some fancy querying to figure out when the last time we had a 3-point all freshman goal.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 22, 2024, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
LOL.  Wow.

I'm not sure how we'd have 3 freshman forwards out there at once -- must have been on a change.

I'll need to do some fancy querying to figure out when the last time we had a 3-point all freshman goal.

I thought there was some point in the Q game where we had 5 freshmen out there.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2024, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
LOL.  Wow.

I'm not sure how we'd have 3 freshman forwards out there at once -- must have been on a change.

I'll need to do some fancy querying to figure out when the last time we had a 3-point all freshman goal.

I thought there was some point in the Q game where we had 5 freshmen out there.
I just realized the fourth line, at least in name, was all freshmen: Devlin, Catalano, Kraft.  So any time they aligned with the Mosko-Fegaras pairings, we had 5 freshmen out there.  I didn't notice but it must have happened, and fairly often, unless Schafer was explicitly avoiding it.  Grady at least never mentioned it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 22, 2024, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
LOL.  Wow.

I'm not sure how we'd have 3 freshman forwards out there at once -- must have been on a change.

I'll need to do some fancy querying to figure out when the last time we had a 3-point all freshman goal.

I thought there was some point in the Q game where we had 5 freshmen out there.
I just realized the fourth line, at least in name, was all freshmen: Devlin, Catalano, Kraft.  So any time they aligned with the Mosko-Fegaras pairings, we had 5 freshmen out there.  I didn't notice but it must have happened, and fairly often, unless Schafer was explicitly avoiding it.  Grady at least never mentioned it.
Kraft is a sophomore.

Until this past weekend, when Mosko was inserted into the lineup, I believe each defensive pairing consisted of one freshman and one upperclassman. So outside of a jumbled or delayed line change, it would have been weird for five freshmen to be on the ice at the same time.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2024, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: BearLoverKraft is a sophomore.
Nope.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 22, 2024, 04:28:58 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverKraft is a sophomore.
Nope.
Oops. I confused him with DeSantis.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 22, 2024, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverKraft is a sophomore.
Nope.
Oops. I confused him with DeSantis.
don't worry nobody dropped out
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: arugula on January 22, 2024, 07:04:37 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: TrotskyAt some point we will have five freshmen on the ice at the same time.  The last time I can remember that happening was around 1991 in Troy, and they scored on us in about 8 seconds.

I think the coaches said at one pt vs Mass?  we had 5 on and they had 4 5th yr guys on the ice.
LOL.  Wow.

I'm not sure how we'd have 3 freshman forwards out there at once -- must have been on a change.

I'll need to do some fancy querying to figure out when the last time we had a 3-point all freshman goal.

I thought there was some point in the Q game where we had 5 freshmen out there.
I just realized the fourth line, at least in name, was all freshmen: Devlin, Catalano, Kraft.  So any time they aligned with the Mosko-Fegaras pairings, we had 5 freshmen out there.  I didn't notice but it must have happened, and fairly often, unless Schafer was explicitly avoiding it.  Grady at least never mentioned it.


Grady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2024, 12:11:38 AM
On Quinnipiac's SH goal, can someone explain why Rego played the guy with the puck rather than the open man (Z. Tupker)? Just a mistake? Tupker's goal was way too easy.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: marty on January 23, 2024, 08:59:25 AM
Quote from: BearLoverOn Quinnipiac's SH goal, can someone explain why Rego played the guy with the puck rather than the open man (Z. Tupker)? Just a mistake? Tupker's goal was way too easy.

Can you explain why you would ask a question of us that you should ask of Rego?::popcorn::
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: upprdeck on January 23, 2024, 09:00:05 AM
I thought once we forced the puck down to such a low angle you let the goalie take him and play the pass.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 09:04:50 AM
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: upprdeckI thought once we forced the puck down to such a low angle you let the goalie take him and play the pass.
Yes.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 23, 2024, 09:28:32 AM
I think Rego got caught trying to do too much. He tried to block the passing lane and close in on the skater with the puck, which is great if it works, but that's a big if.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 09:55:19 AM
The best defense is still just percentages and sometimes the baddies score.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2024, 10:03:02 AM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLoverOn Quinnipiac's SH goal, can someone explain why Rego played the guy with the puck rather than the open man (Z. Tupker)? Just a mistake? Tupker's goal was way too easy.

Can you explain why you would ask a question of us that you should ask of Rego?::popcorn::
Because, as others in this thread have noted, defending 2-on-1s is fairly basic hockey strategy that even many of us laypeople are familiar with. As others said, the usual rule is to play the pass and let the goalie play the shot. Rego played the shooter, though, leaving Tupker wide open for an easy goal. As Dafatone noted, he didn't do much to play the shooter either. I was wondering if somebody had an explanation, or if Rego just goofed.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 10:15:37 AM
Maybe they were just doing a solid for an old teammate?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2024, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: arugula on January 23, 2024, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.


Exactly. Good pipes. Seems like a nice guy but too often ignores the game.  I assume he would be different on radio.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on January 23, 2024, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

Didn't Colin Greening '10 occasionally play for the Binghamton Senators?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

Didn't Colin Greening '10 occasionally play for the Binghamton Senators?
2011 Calder Cup Champions
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2024, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
I think he is capable of being a very good announcer, but at the moment, he simply doesn't pay enough attention to the game or keep up with the action. The Binghamton Rangers stuff is the worst of all, but there are many other tangents he goes on during the game which have little or nothing to do with the actual hockey being played. There needs to be a rule that he can only bring up these topics during a play stoppage and he must commentate on the action while play is underway. It's been pretty bad for several years now. I hope he can improve because he seems like a capable announcer and good guy.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: scoop85 on January 23, 2024, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
I think he is capable of being a very good announcer, but at the moment, he simply doesn't pay enough attention to the game or keep up with the action. The Binghamton Rangers stuff is the worst of all, but there are many other tangents he goes on during the game which have little or nothing to do with the actual hockey being played. There needs to be a rule that he can only bring up these topics during a play stoppage and he must commentate on the action while play is underway. It's been pretty bad for several years now. I hope he can improve because he seems like a capable announcer and good guy.

He and Vannini have gotten a bit too chatty while the action is going on. He seems to stay better on task doing the women's games. The young lady from IC who's doing the color on the women's games has been quite good for a newbie.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
I think he is capable of being a very good announcer, but at the moment, he simply doesn't pay enough attention to the game or keep up with the action. The Binghamton Rangers stuff is the worst of all, but there are many other tangents he goes on during the game which have little or nothing to do with the actual hockey being played. There needs to be a rule that he can only bring up these topics during a play stoppage and he must commentate on the action while play is underway. It's been pretty bad for several years now. I hope he can improve because he seems like a capable announcer and good guy.

He and Vannini have gotten a bit too chatty while the action is going on. He seems to stay better on task doing the women's games. The young lady from IC who's doing the color on the women's games has been quite good for a newbie.

Grady has deliberately moved towards being more chatty.  In his stint as the Cornell radio guy he was the second-best PBP man I have ever heard (Dean "Scooter" Vrooman) at any level.  I assume he went to the more chatty persona to appeal to the derpier AHL audience.

Vanini is remarkable.  His eyesight reminds me of Johnny Peirson on the Bruins' broadcasts.  he sees stuff in realtime I have a hard time seeing on replay when I'm looking for it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: dbilmes on January 23, 2024, 02:54:45 PM
My nitpick about Vanini is that he uses the word "great" way too many times, making it lose its impact.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: dbilmesMy nitpick about Vanini is that he uses the word "great" way too many times, making it lose its impact.
I had not noticed, but I will now.  :-(
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 23, 2024, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: dbilmesMy nitpick about Vanini is that he uses the word "great" way too many times, making it lose its impact.
I had not noticed, but I will now.  :-(
your endless capacity to be made angry by nothing is, in a way, inspiring.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: dbilmesMy nitpick about Vanini is that he uses the word "great" way too many times, making it lose its impact.
I had not noticed, but I will now.  :-(
your endless capacity to be made angry by nothing is, in a way, inspiring.

j/k?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on January 23, 2024, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 23, 2024, 05:49:41 PM
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Sorry.

Someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Senators.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: chimpfood on January 23, 2024, 05:54:33 PM
Is Grady the espn plus guy and Jason the radio guy?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: marty on January 23, 2024, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Sorry.

Someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Senators.

I think we just did,  but I also appreciate Grady. We are fortunate to have both a radio and video pbp announcer.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on January 23, 2024, 06:19:58 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Sorry.

Someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Senators.

I think we just did,  but I also appreciate Grady. We are fortunate to have both a radio and video pbp announcer.
Does Grady use this forum?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on January 23, 2024, 08:25:42 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Sorry.

Someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Senators.

I think we just did,  but I also appreciate Grady. We are fortunate to have both a radio and video pbp announcer.
Does Grady use this forum?

He has in the past, yes.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 23, 2024, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TrotskyI love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.

The Binghamton Rangers ceased to exist after 1997.  When Grady was there, they were the Binghamton Senators.  Now they're gone, too.
Sorry.

Someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Senators.

I still remember the Broome Dusters.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: abmarks on January 24, 2024, 04:40:09 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
I think he is capable of being a very good announcer, but at the moment, he simply doesn't pay enough attention to the game or keep up with the action. The Binghamton Rangers stuff is the worst of all, but there are many other tangents he goes on during the game which have little or nothing to do with the actual hockey being played. There needs to be a rule that he can only bring up these topics during a play stoppage and he must commentate on the action while play is underway. It's been pretty bad for several years now. I hope he can improve because he seems like a capable announcer and good guy.

He and Vannini have gotten a bit too chatty while the action is going on. He seems to stay better on task doing the women's games. The young lady from IC who's doing the color on the women's games has been quite good for a newbie.

Grady has deliberately moved towards being more chatty.  In his stint as the Cornell radio guy he was the second-best PBP man I have ever heard (Dean "Scooter" Vrooman) at any level.  I assume he went to the more chatty persona to appeal to the derpier AHL audience.

Vanini is remarkable.  His eyesight reminds me of Johnny Peirson on the Bruins' broadcasts.  he sees stuff in realtime I have a hard time seeing on replay when I'm looking for it.

Vanini also misses a ton of stuff that's quite obvious from the video.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: marty on January 24, 2024, 05:17:46 AM
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: arugulaGrady wouldn't have mentioned it. That would require paying attention.  Jason perhaps. Not Grady.

Grady is an excellent announcer.  Your comment was bad and you should feel bad.
Unfortunately, Grady spends too many words on random tangents and not enough on the game itself. He needs to track the action better.

I love him.  I will grant someone needs to take him aside and explain nobody gives a shit about the Binghamton Rangers.
I think he is capable of being a very good announcer, but at the moment, he simply doesn't pay enough attention to the game or keep up with the action. The Binghamton Rangers stuff is the worst of all, but there are many other tangents he goes on during the game which have little or nothing to do with the actual hockey being played. There needs to be a rule that he can only bring up these topics during a play stoppage and he must commentate on the action while play is underway. It's been pretty bad for several years now. I hope he can improve because he seems like a capable announcer and good guy.

He and Vannini have gotten a bit too chatty while the action is going on. He seems to stay better on task doing the women's games. The young lady from IC who's doing the color on the women's games has been quite good for a newbie.

Grady has deliberately moved towards being more chatty.  In his stint as the Cornell radio guy he was the second-best PBP man I have ever heard (Dean "Scooter" Vrooman) at any level.  I assume he went to the more chatty persona to appeal to the derpier AHL audience.

Vanini is remarkable.  His eyesight reminds me of Johnny Peirson on the Bruins' broadcasts.  he sees stuff in realtime I have a hard time seeing on replay when I'm looking for it.

Vanini also misses a ton of stuff that's quite obvious from the video.

As someone who can't stand constant blabbermouth sports speak,  I'm fine with Tim only talking about the plays he thinks are interesting.  Everyone misses a whole lot in hockey which is part of the joy of the game.  

When I get home from a live game I often look at particular segments to see what I've missed. And as much as I hate 5 minute referee reviews of plays that depend on camera angles and slomo, I do like to hit pause and watch in slow motion if I am curious about a play.

We are blessed to have two good announcers and two great color guys.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: redice on January 24, 2024, 10:06:05 AM
Quote from: martyAs someone who can't stand constant blabbermouth sports speak,  I'm fine with Tim only talking about the plays he thinks are interesting.  

Agreed!!   I've hit the mute button to silence these people, especially in the NFL....It makes me crazy!!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on January 24, 2024, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: redice
Quote from: martyAs someone who can't stand constant blabbermouth sports speak,  I'm fine with Tim only talking about the plays he thinks are interesting.  

Agreed!!   I've hit the mute button to silence these people, especially in the NFL....It makes me crazy!!


Agreed!!!  Top on my NFL mute list is Tony Romo.  Arguably, he knows a lot, but I don't care.  I just want to enjoy the game.  Fans at stadium survive without the endless analysis.  Also, too many graphics!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 24, 2024, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: redice
Quote from: martyAs someone who can't stand constant blabbermouth sports speak,  I'm fine with Tim only talking about the plays he thinks are interesting.  

Agreed!!   I've hit the mute button to silence these people, especially in the NFL....It makes me crazy!!
Every NFL playoffs, I last 5 plays and flip it off having remembered why I never watch.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 24, 2024, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: martyWe are blessed to have two good announcers and two great color guys.

"So say we all."
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on January 24, 2024, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: dbilmesMy nitpick about Vanini is that he uses the word "great" way too many times, making it lose its impact.

I'll allow it, for no other reason than it's something different than the near constant use in sports broadcasting of the word "unbelievable" for anything that is deemed mildly positive
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Quinnipiac 2 (ot)
Post by: abmarks on January 24, 2024, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK... The Big Red finally wore them down around the midway point of the third.  Penney and Devlin both had some crushing hits.  There hadn't been much physicality early on so it was nice to get that part of their game going in time to turn the tide. That opened up the ice for them to find their offensive game.


Just read some Schafer quotes in chn roundup https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2024/01/21_Weekend-Roundup-Cornell-.php

"We started getting going and back to playing physical again, which I thought kinda deteriorated for us. And that went in ebbs and flows," Schafer said. "If you don't play physical against them and bump them — they're not big hits, but you better make sure you make contact — and I thought that turned the game a little bit


"Nine freshman lineup tonight. When you look around as a coach and see that many young guys out there against a good hockey team, it just makes you wonder sometimes, like, man, we could be in trouble here. But it was a team effort."
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ER on January 25, 2024, 12:48:49 PM
They're good but just as much homers as anyone else.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on January 25, 2024, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: ERThey're good but just as much homers as anyone else.

Have you ever even listened to a Brown game?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on January 25, 2024, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ERThey're good but just as much homers as anyone else.

Have you ever even listened to a Brown game?
Or any Big Ten broadcast.

Jason & Grady are paragons of objectivity by comparison.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on January 26, 2024, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: ERThey're good but just as much homers as anyone else.
imo "homer" doesn't mean that you are more excited when the home team scores. it means that you lose objectivity around penalty calls and the relative abilities or moral worth of the teams. in that sense, i think grady and tim are not particularly vocal homers even if they obviously want cornell to do well and their calls reflect that mood.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Dafatone on January 26, 2024, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ERThey're good but just as much homers as anyone else.
imo "homer" doesn't mean that you are more excited when the home team scores. it means that you lose objectivity around penalty calls and the relative abilities or moral worth of the teams. in that sense, i think grady and tim are not particularly vocal homers even if they obviously want cornell to do well and their calls reflect that mood.

I'd also say that they do a good job keeping some energy when the other team scores. There are a few broadcasters for other teams that all but drop to a whisper on a Cornell goal.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: George64 on February 12, 2024, 05:40:51 PM
Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on February 12, 2024, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: George64Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
People on this forum rooted for Quinnipiac to win the national title last season (something Cornell hasn't done in 53 years).  *shrug*
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on February 12, 2024, 07:26:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: George64Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
People on this forum rooted for Quinnipiac to win the national title last season (something Cornell hasn't done in 53 years).  *shrug*

Where? Show me. Here's the thread, it's mainly people making fun of you for continuing to bitterly assert this.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,244928,page=1

I hated Q winning it because they are an antithesis to what I want out of the league member, and Rand's a fucking prick.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on February 12, 2024, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: George64Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
People on this forum rooted for Quinnipiac to win the national title last season (something Cornell hasn't done in 53 years).  *shrug*

Where? Show me. Here's the thread, it's mainly people making fun of you for continuing to bitterly assert this.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,244928,page=1

I hated Q winning it because they are an antithesis to what I want out of the league member, and Rand's a fucking prick.
I don't know about that thread, but Trotsky certainly overtly rooted for Q, and so did others. Trotsky can answer for himself here. (He justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.) After a quick skim I don't see anybody rooting for or against Q in that thread one way or the other. Not sure why you're point me to this thread.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on February 12, 2024, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: George64Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
People on this forum rooted for Quinnipiac to win the national title last season (something Cornell hasn't done in 53 years).  *shrug*

Where? Show me. Here's the thread, it's mainly people making fun of you for continuing to bitterly assert this.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,244928,page=1

I hated Q winning it because they are an antithesis to what I want out of the league member, and Rand's a fucking prick.
I don't know about that thread, but Trotsky certainly overtly rooted for Q, and so did others. Trotsky can answer for himself here. (He justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.) After a quick skim I don't see anybody rooting for or against Q in that thread one way or the other. Not sure why you're point me to this thread.

Because my memory barely lasts three weeks these days, I decided to go back in this forum to see how people "rooted" for that outcome. If it were true, celebrations or at least "atta boys" would have been apparent in that thread more than any other. Like you, I didn't see any. You seem to be still fighting a long-dead fight.

The main agenda Trotsky has here is to lob chaos bombs to ruffle the easily ruffled. I'm never surprised when you're a target.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on February 12, 2024, 08:07:56 PM
Quote from: BearLoverHe justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.

No.  I always root for the ECAC, because I like the league, and I want it to be strong and attract more talent to help raise our SoS.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on February 12, 2024, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: George64Just came across this very old interview with Mike commenting on Pecknold (https://youtu.be/QPzFbTjioOM?si=EwxYU2WDzNXFsa-i).
People on this forum rooted for Quinnipiac to win the national title last season (something Cornell hasn't done in 53 years).  *shrug*

Where? Show me. Here's the thread, it's mainly people making fun of you for continuing to bitterly assert this.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,244928,page=1

I hated Q winning it because they are an antithesis to what I want out of the league member, and Rand's a fucking prick.
I don't know about that thread, but Trotsky certainly overtly rooted for Q, and so did others. Trotsky can answer for himself here. (He justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.) After a quick skim I don't see anybody rooting for or against Q in that thread one way or the other. Not sure why you're point me to this thread.

Because my memory barely lasts three weeks these days, I decided to go back in this forum to see how people "rooted" for that outcome. If it were true, celebrations or at least "atta boys" would have been apparent in that thread more than any other. Like you, I didn't see any. You seem to be still fighting a long-dead fight.

The main agenda Trotsky has here is to lob chaos bombs to ruffle the easily ruffled. I'm never surprised when you're a target.
Actually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody. The only person who seems ruffled here is you.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 12, 2024, 08:43:35 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverHe justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.

No.  I always root for the ECAC, because I like the league, and I want it to be strong and attract more talent to help raise our SoS.
I do, too.

And, anyone who gets upset over who I, or anyone else here, roots for needs to get a life.  Desperately.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on February 12, 2024, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverHe justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.

No.  I always root for the ECAC, because I like the league, and I want it to be strong and attract more talent to help raise our SoS.
I do, too.

And, anyone who gets upset over who I, or anyone else here, roots for needs to get a life.  Desperately.
Go on a Duke basketball forum, tell them you root for UNC, and see how that goes for you. *shrug*
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 12, 2024, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverHe justified it with the theory that it would force Schafer to try to win even harder, lol.

No.  I always root for the ECAC, because I like the league, and I want it to be strong and attract more talent to help raise our SoS.
I do, too.

And, anyone who gets upset over who I, or anyone else here, roots for needs to get a life.  Desperately.
Go on a Duke basketball forum, tell them you root for UNC, and see how that goes for you. *shrug*
If your aspiration is to behave like Duke fanboys on their forum, well, you're succeeding wildly..
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on February 12, 2024, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody.

I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub. I just want to give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: RichH on February 13, 2024, 12:44:25 AM
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody. The only person who seems ruffled here is you.

Ahhhh, thanks for that laugh - that was good forum comedy gold right there, baby.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: BearLover on February 13, 2024, 01:36:43 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody. The only person who seems ruffled here is you.

Ahhhh, thanks for that laugh - that was good forum comedy gold right there, baby.
Damn, still ruffled I see...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: ugarte on February 13, 2024, 12:00:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody. The only person who seems ruffled here is you.

Ahhhh, thanks for that laugh - that was good forum comedy gold right there, baby.
Damn, still ruffled I see...
absolutely the dumbest form of argumentation. please stop. i have exclusive rights on this forum to develop and deploy insulting psychoanalysis of you lot of screeching gibbons.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 13, 2024, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody.

I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub. I just want to give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.

The rose goes in the front, big guy.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Scersk '97 on February 13, 2024, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody.

I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub. I just want to give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.

I just figure I'll keep going to the corners and playing with a lot of jam, and things will go my way.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Trotsky on February 13, 2024, 06:06:32 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody.

I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub. I just want to give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.

I just figure I'll keep going to the corners and playing with a lot of jam, and things will go my way.
Trust the process.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Quinnipiac, 1/20
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 13, 2024, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverActually, I'm pretty he just wants to be loud and outrageous. I highly doubt he is trying to provoke anybody.

I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub. I just want to give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.

I just figure I'll keep going to the corners and playing with a lot of jam, and things will go my way.
Trust the process.

It's the system.