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Title: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Iceberg on February 25, 2023, 05:24:35 PM
Senior night at Ingalls and it'll probably be nicer inside the rink than it is outside right now
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 06:34:33 PM
Derpa-derps still on WHCU at 6:34.  Not a good sign.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 06:39:21 PM
6:38 brings an increase in audience IQ by 100 points.

Jason needs to stop talking about the Yale Juggernaut.  It's freaking me out, they have 7 wins, Jason.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 07:05:34 PM
"Dancing Dan Taggart."
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 07:13:14 PM
Shane stops two breakaways.  Um, D, let's wake up, kay?
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 07:23:18 PM
Andreev called for embellishment on a Yale penalty.  Ridiculous, he should have been called for retaliation.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 25, 2023, 07:41:21 PM
Solid period.  Mostly one way traffic.  Pearson not in net for Yale. At Ingalls, it's Id guess 60% Cornell fans. Maybe more.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: ER on February 25, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
Harvard and Clarkson are tied
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: chimpfood on February 25, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
Weak backhand shot with no screen set sneaks through, Hopkins blows.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 08:04:58 PM
Penney pass to O'Leary for the third goal was lovely.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 08:05:48 PM
Quote from: ERHarvard and Clarkson are tied
Come on, Casey, do us a solid.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 25, 2023, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ERHarvard and Clarkson are tied
Come on, Casey, do us a solid.
3-2 Harvard after two.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ERHarvard and Clarkson are tied
Come on, Casey, do us a solid.
3-2 Harvard after two.
Bah.  Our own fault, we had our destiny in our hands last week.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 08:56:28 PM
Too bad losing the shutout on lazy defense there.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: CU2007 on February 25, 2023, 09:06:28 PM
This guy has now called Schafer a great goaltender twice
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Give My Regards on February 25, 2023, 09:07:36 PM
I was just thinking the announcers weren't really all that horrendous, until the color guy informed us that Mike Schafer was "a great goaltender in his own right".

Yep, missed the first reference.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
1 minute to go in Potsdam, 3-2.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 09:13:40 PM
Harvard wins, we finish 3rd.   Not bad.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: ugarte on February 25, 2023, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: TrotskyToo bad losing the shutout on lazy defense there.
i thought it was a pretty good snipe on a shot that the defense, not to mention shane, had to be surprised he was taking. i thought he was circling away from net before he pivoted and fired it top shelf
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2023, 09:36:06 PM
any idea why the play mid 3rd before the break the faceoff was taken all the way down the ice?  it wasnt icing so they had to call off sides and it was pretty close without going to a replay so why would you call it intentional on a pass like that?
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskyToo bad losing the shutout on lazy defense there.
i thought it was a pretty good snipe on a shot that the defense, not to mention shane, had to be surprised he was taking. i thought he was circling away from net before he pivoted and fired it top shelf
I wasn't really thinking about the shot, I was thinking we had relaxed on D and were letting Yale get to pucks.  It wasn't on Shane, I did not mean to imply that.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: upprdeckany idea why the play mid 3rd before the break the faceoff was taken all the way down the ice?  it wasnt icing so they had to call off sides and it was pretty close without going to a replay so why would you call it intentional on a pass like that?
Deliberate offsides, I assume the Cornell player (Berard) crossed the line before the puck and the linesman must have shouted it at him.  Funny thing was Allain was confused.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2023, 09:45:32 PM
the play was so close, but maybe the ref did rule it that way. onlu thing that makes sense.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: CU2007 on February 25, 2023, 09:48:51 PM
So the Ivy League officially declared us champions! That's not nothing. Another banner hanging in Lynah
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: CU2007So the Ivy League officially declared us champions! That's not nothing. Another banner hanging in Lynah
LOL (https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/2/25/cornell-seals-ivy-league-mens-ice-hockey-title.aspx).
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 25, 2023, 11:00:12 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007So the Ivy League officially declared us champions! That's not nothing. Another banner hanging in Lynah
LOL (https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/2/25/cornell-seals-ivy-league-mens-ice-hockey-title.aspx).

I guess we now know how they determine it.  

Suck it, Harvard.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 25, 2023, 11:10:35 PM
Funny the standings still list harvard in first place but the article says different.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: chimpfood on February 25, 2023, 11:11:59 PM
Ivy League champs is huge!!! Let's get a couple more banners and end this season with no regrets.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2023, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: arugulaFunny the standings still list harvard in first place but the article says different.
It is spectacularly stupid and wonderful.  Nothing could be more fitting for the Senile Six.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 25, 2023, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007So the Ivy League officially declared us champions! That's not nothing. Another banner hanging in Lynah
LOL (https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/2/25/cornell-seals-ivy-league-mens-ice-hockey-title.aspx).

Great accuracy in the article. (Note the score.)

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NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- No. 13 Cornell men's ice hockey wrapped up the 2022-23 Ivy League men's ice hockey title tonight with a 4-0 win over Yale in New Haven, Conn. — the final night of the regular season.

The Big Red totaled 25 points in its 10 Ivy League contests this season, besting second-place Harvard by one point with tonight's regulation victory.

It is Cornell's league-leading 25th title all-time and its first since 2020. The Big Red now turn their attention to the beginning of ECAC Playoffs, which begin next weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: JasonN95 on February 26, 2023, 09:09:42 AM
Quote from: upprdeckthe play was so close, but maybe the ref did rule it that way. onlu thing that makes sense.

Doesn't the faceoff for offsides go to where the puck was last touched by the offense before committing the offsides? Usually that's at the blue line but here that was in Cornell's end so the faceoff was set there.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Iceberg on February 26, 2023, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: chimpfoodWeak backhand shot with no screen set sneaks through, Hopkins blows.

I was at the other end of the ice and could even clearly see that was a weak goal. Heavily swung the complexion of the game.


I happened to be sitting in front of some Yale students and talked to them for a bit. They were rather disappointed in the skeleton crew of a band that showed up in addition to wondering why so many Cornell people were in the rink. Apparently, some of the school's COVID measures within the past few years (i.e. separated practices) hurt the team and its connection with a local community a bit. The irony that is that in the 1st intermission, the Yale AD was doing a photo-op on the ice with a surprisingly small number of returning members of the championship team Yale had 10 years ago.


Tldr: Yale's concern for hockey is pretty low in general right now
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: scoop85 on February 26, 2023, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: chimpfoodWeak backhand shot with no screen set sneaks through, Hopkins blows.

I was at the other end of the ice and could even clearly see that was a weak goal. Heavily swung the complexion of the game

When I watched the replay of the goal I thought the shot may have deflected off the Yale defender, which if my eyes aren't lying would make it less of a bad goal then at first blush.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: George64 on February 26, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Our walking wounded made the trip to celebrate our Ivy championship.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: dbilmes on February 26, 2023, 11:32:37 AM
I may have missed this on a previous thread, but does anyone know when Seger was hurt and if he's going to be able to play again this season? I noticed he was scratched for both games this weekend. He's one of our top scorers and faceoff men, so it would be nice to have him back for the playoffs. It's a tribute to the depth of this year's roster that we've been able to score a decent amount of goals despite the absence of players like Steinberg and Seger.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on February 26, 2023, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: dbilmesI may have missed this on a previous thread, but does anyone know when Seger was hurt and if he's going to be able to play again this season? I noticed he was scratched for both games this weekend. He's one of our top scorers and faceoff men, so it would be nice to have him back for the playoffs. It's a tribute to the depth of this year's roster that we've been able to score a decent amount of goals despite the absence of players like Steinberg and Seger.
According to Mike in the pregame at Brown, he was dinged up at the end of the SLU loss and he will return for the playoffs.  Also: Stienburg is "close" and "should" be ready for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 26, 2023, 11:40:37 AM
Excellent news.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 26, 2023, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: chimpfoodWeak backhand shot with no screen set sneaks through, Hopkins blows.

I was at the other end of the ice and could even clearly see that was a weak goal. Heavily swung the complexion of the game

When I watched the replay of the goal I thought the shot may have deflected off the Yale defender, which if my eyes aren't lying would make it less of a bad goal then at first blush.

I will take personal credit for the goal.  Personal bugaboo for years is the unwillingness of many to use the backhand. I was sitting five rows up maybe 25 feet from the shot and just before he took the shot I yelled "take the backhand".  So all me ....
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 26, 2023, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: chimpfoodWeak backhand shot with no screen set sneaks through, Hopkins blows.

I was at the other end of the ice and could even clearly see that was a weak goal. Heavily swung the complexion of the game.


I happened to be sitting in front of some Yale students and talked to them for a bit. They were rather disappointed in the skeleton crew of a band that showed up in addition to wondering why so many Cornell people were in the rink. Apparently, some of the school's COVID measures within the past few years (i.e. separated practices) hurt the team and its connection with a local community a bit. The irony that is that in the 1st intermission, the Yale AD was doing a photo-op on the ice with a surprisingly small number of returning members of the championship team Yale had 10 years ago.


Tldr: Yale's concern for hockey is pretty low in general right now

And yet the womens team is sensational.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: upprdeck on February 26, 2023, 11:47:51 AM
Stienburg news is surprising.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 26, 2023, 11:50:05 AM
Great moment of schadenfreude last night.  When I arrived at the Whale, two Sucks womens players were outside crying with their parents.  They had just been eliminated by Yale in the ecac playoffs.   I was briefly sad to see a youngster cry but then thought again and heard Nelson Muntz. Very mature.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: dbilmes on February 26, 2023, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: arugulaGreat moment of schadenfreude last night.  When I arrived at the Whale, two Sucks womens players were outside crying with their parents.  They had just been eliminated by Yale in the ecac playoffs.   I was briefly sad to see a youngster cry but then thought again and heard Nelson Muntz. Very mature.
They shouldn't have been surprised to have lost to Yale, since the teams finished the regular season with Yale winning, 10-1, and Yale then outscored Harvard, 8-2, in the ECAC quarterfinals. So Yale outscored Harvard, 18-3, over the final three games of the season. Maybe Harvard would have done better if their controversial coach hadn't resulted in so many talented players transferring out of the program over the past few years.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: arugula on February 26, 2023, 04:13:30 PM
Sad!
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: dbilmes on February 26, 2023, 04:48:08 PM
Yale coach Allain started his third-string goalie, Hopkins, last night because he's a senior and it was his last regular season game. His goals against average and save percentage is much worse than either of the goalies ahead of him. Not that it would have necessarily made a difference, but it certainly didn't hurt our chances.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: DL on February 26, 2023, 05:49:10 PM
Frame-by-frame, it looks like each one is covering his man, but the Yalie being blocked has his stick holding our guy back, effectively keeping him from covering that sliver of daylight... Not that it remotely looked like he was diving to cover it but still.

So they got a lucky break. Lucky too was not getting called for tripping or slew-footing on O'Leary just as he had a point blank shot in the slot
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Give My Regards on February 26, 2023, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: dbilmesYale coach Allain started his third-string goalie, Hopkins, last night because he's a senior and it was his last regular season game. His goals against average and save percentage is much worse than either of the goalies ahead of him. Not that it would have necessarily made a difference, but it certainly didn't hurt our chances.

That may be why Allain started Hopkins, who's had a total of nine starts in his career and lost all of them.  But for whatever reason, this was the third straight time he started against Cornell.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Iceberg on February 26, 2023, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: dbilmesYale coach Allain started his third-string goalie, Hopkins, last night because he's a senior and it was his last regular season game. His goals against average and save percentage is much worse than either of the goalies ahead of him. Not that it would have necessarily made a difference, but it certainly didn't hurt our chances.

That may be why Allain started Hopkins, who's had a total of nine starts in his career and lost all of them.  But for whatever reason, this was the third straight time he started against Cornell.


Someone was telling me that he's also had injury issues much of his time at Yale. But yes, I think Yale was playing quite a few guys who ordinarily wouldn't be in the lineup because it was senior night.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: upprdeck on February 27, 2023, 08:56:36 AM
the tV people said all 3 yale goalies had been hurt much of the yr and that led to mostly who ended up playing certain games.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: underskill on February 27, 2023, 09:36:53 AM
They also had nothing to play for so they could start the senior without regards to merit
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 27, 2023, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: underskillThey also had nothing to play for so they could start the senior without regards to merit
And without regard for whatever Harvard might have thought.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: billhoward on February 27, 2023, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: CU2007This guy has now called Schafer a great goaltender twice
The play-by-play announcer noted multiple times the game was a sellout. Even mid-second period, one could see blocks of seating rows that had zero or 1-2 people in it. (Was it the at-Brown game the announcers noted a group of three kids had grabbed two straight pucks that went over the glass at center ice and what-a-coincidence ... and I was thinking, if they were the only three kids in that section, the odds bordered on 100%).

Yale's PBP announcer is now ~6 years out of the UMAss broadcast journalism / sports management (dual majors) program. I was wondering about her career arc of the near future. Maybe she hustles off-camera to dig up factoids, get game background, have player and coach background handy (Schafer not a goalie (that was the color guy)), have deeper info on opposing team players since ESPN+ announcers should not be homers, find interesting stories for her other media work. Makes me so grateful for the people Cornell has doing hockey, lacrosse, basketball.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: dbilmes on February 27, 2023, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: CU2007This guy has now called Schafer a great goaltender twice
The Yale game was a sellout just like all of the Quinnipiac games I've been to over the past 10 years have been listed as sellouts despite wide swaths of empty seats. Including the hockey team and pep band, there were probably about 50 Yale students at the game. Maybe a lot of the season ticket holders decided not to show up. I'm sure most of the Yale sports fans who were going to a game Saturday night opted to go watch the first-place basketball team beat up on Cornell instead of watching the almost last-place hockey team get beat up by Cornell.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Iceberg on February 27, 2023, 03:06:51 PM
There were quite a few people standing, too. The rink was definitely full of people and full of energy as you would hope and expect for a Saturday game. Lots of Cornell people in attendance
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: upprdeck on February 27, 2023, 04:25:33 PM
Before the lynah rink updates many people would stand as well instead of sitting.. you can easily have 4-500 standing around an arena that holds 2-3K and make it look like tons of unsold seating
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: dag14 on February 27, 2023, 05:17:06 PM
Before the Lynah upgrades, I had season tickets but never sat in our seats.  We would arrive at the star of warmups, not only to watch the players but to nail down great spots on the rail at center ice.  We had a group of 6-8 people, which made it easy to make a pit stop or hit the concession stand and not lose your spot.  Over the years I met a lot of people I likely never would have connected with but for standing room at Lynah.  That included pro scouts, some of whom were pretty chatty, as well as player parents.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: ugarte on February 27, 2023, 08:50:37 PM
most espn+ broadcasts are the network distributing the home team broadcast, not espn hires. you're going to hear some homerism or at least better knowledge of the home team.
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: gored on March 01, 2023, 12:49:14 PM
I also thought the Ivy Champs article was wrong until I realized the point scoring system. Who knows why the standings don't reflect the points earned?
Title: Re: Cornell at Yale (2/25/23)
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2023, 02:00:48 PM
Quote from: goredI also thought the Ivy Champs article was wrong until I realized the point scoring system. Who knows why the standings don't reflect the points earned?
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