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General Category => John Spencer Is Dead => Topic started by: scoop85 on August 30, 2022, 10:34:53 AM

Title: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: scoop85 on August 30, 2022, 10:34:53 AM
Friends who live in Ithaca are reporting an increase in violent crime in the city. I wasn't sure if that was just hyperbole, but this data (https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/ithaca/crime) seems to bear that out, as Ithaca is deemed safer (by this criteria) than only 5% of U.S. cities. But as per an Ithaca Times story from last year (https://ithacavoice.com/2021/08/is-crime-worsening-in-ithaca-in-2021-police-statistics-say-no/), the statistics don't appear so dire.

I'm curious what other folks in the area are seeing as to any recent increases in serious crime.
Title: Re: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: billhoward on August 30, 2022, 09:45:42 PM
Possibly Ithaca reports more crimes than the average city? If you get mugged and don't believe anyone will be punished, or it was a stash of fentanyl you lost, are you reporting it?
Title: Re: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: David Harding on August 31, 2022, 12:23:36 AM
Quote from: scoop85Friends who live in Ithaca are reporting an increase in violent crime in the city. I wasn't sure if that was just hyperbole, but this data (https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/ithaca/crime) seems to bear that out, as Ithaca is deemed safer (by this criteria) than only 5% of U.S. cities. But as per an Ithaca Times story from last year (https://ithacavoice.com/2021/08/is-crime-worsening-in-ithaca-in-2021-police-statistics-say-no/), the statistics don't appear so dire.

I'm curious what other folks in the area are seeing as to any recent increases in serious crime.
It would be interesting how they are calculating that 5% number.  Just below the report "My Chances of Becoming a Victim of a Violent Crime " as 1 in 284 in Ithaca compared to 1 in 287 in New York State.  That looks like a dead heat to me.
Title: Re: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: billhoward on August 31, 2022, 08:49:31 AM
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: scoop85Friends who live in Ithaca are reporting an increase in violent crime in the city. I wasn't sure if that was just hyperbole, but this data (https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/ithaca/crime) seems to bear that out, as Ithaca is deemed safer (by this criteria) than only 5% of U.S. cities. But as per an Ithaca Times story from last year (https://ithacavoice.com/2021/08/is-crime-worsening-in-ithaca-in-2021-police-statistics-say-no/), the statistics don't appear so dire.

I'm curious what other folks in the area are seeing as to any recent increases in serious crime.
It would be interesting how they are calculating that 5% number.  Just below the report "My Chances of Becoming a Victim of a Violent Crime " as 1 in 284 in Ithaca compared to 1 in 287 in New York State.  That looks like a dead heat to me.
From these nuances that "raise possibly troubling questions," as the NYT might report the story, come careers for statisticians, healthcare advocates and people looking for socioeconomic causality.
Title: Re: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: Tcl123 on August 31, 2022, 11:31:36 AM
Pretty bad when Ithaca comes in worse than New Haven (5% vs 6%).
Title: Re: Ithaca Crime Rate
Post by: billhoward on August 31, 2022, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: toddlosePretty bad when Ithaca comes in worse than New Haven (5% vs 6%).
A 2% crime rate reported 3X more efficiently than New Haven's 5% gives Ithaca a higher rate. Could that be part of the answer?

Ithaca is America's best-educated city based on PhDs percentage, so they should be richer and rich people don't commit much crime except in and around Wall Street. I skimmed for some income stats and got different numbers for what should be clear-cut data. Some show New Haven has higher HHI, some say Ithaca, and there's confusion also on who has more people below the poverty line. I gave up because it got boring. It's possible Ithaca has a higher percentage of lower income people because grad students' grants don't count as income? Or could it be Ithaca has better services for the poor who flock where the assistance is? (From my newspaper days in Springfield Mass. I recall a story we ran in Miami area welfare offices comparing assistance levels in Miamia vs. Springfield-Holyoke; I can't recall if they offered bus tickets.) Maybe Florida and Texas will bus its poor people to Ithaca as well as NYC?