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Title: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on February 27, 2022, 12:03:37 PM
This is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.


[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Brown      8 St. Lawrence        Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       5 Colgate  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  6 RPI                  Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  7 Union
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.


Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: andyw2100 on February 27, 2022, 12:44:17 PM
While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 27, 2022, 02:15:01 PM
Quote from: andyw2100While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.

He did put ifs in his discussion.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: marty on February 27, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: billhowardThis is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022, I believe. Positions 8-12 are not locked in. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.


[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
*8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
 5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

 6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
 7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Brown      2nd lowest survivor
* 8-12 are placeholders, depend on H@P Sunday 2/27. SLU 8th if H>P


Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Since Dartmouth apparently won the tie breaker vs Yale this begs as to why they pulled their goalie in OT vs Union last night.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: andyw2100 on February 27, 2022, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: andyw2100While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.

He did put ifs in his discussion.


He edited those in after I posted. Let's hope the woofing gods never saw the original post. :)
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on February 27, 2022, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: andyw2100He edited those in after I posted. Let's hope the woofing god's never saw the original post. :)
If the gods know about rollback, the original is still there.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: marty on February 27, 2022, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: billhowardThis is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.


[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  2nd lowest survivor
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.


Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Princeton playing in Schenectady and Canton?
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Tcl123 on February 27, 2022, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: billhowardThis is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.


[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  2nd lowest survivor
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.


Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Princeton playing in Schenectady and Canton?

Probably still better than browns chances.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on February 27, 2022, 11:09:35 PM
St Lawrence, 26 ECAC points, is hosting Brown, 25 points. Princeton plays at Union.  

I failed to mention SLU is also the defending ECAC champion, the entire 2021 ECAC tournament being just two games (was to have been three): St Lawrence over Colgate, Quinnipiac with a bye on account of Clarkson players getting sick, then SLU over Q. See, it is possible to beat Quinnipiac for the ECAC title. Q then went to the NCAAs when St. Lawrence got sick.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on February 27, 2022, 11:23:34 PM
Let's see if the Participation Points mattered at all:

[b]
Pl      W  L T Pt PP PN[/b]
 1 Qpc 17  4 1 35 19 54
 2 Clk 14  4 4 32 19 51
 3 Hvd 14  6 2 30 16 46
 4 Cor 12  6 4 28 11 39
 5 Cgt  9  9 4 22 11 33
 6 RPI 10 12 0 20 10 30
 6 Uni  9 11 2 20  7 27
 8 SLU  7 10 5 19  7 26
 9 Brn  6 12 4 16  9 25
10 Prn  7 14 1 15  8 23
11 Yal  7 14 1 15  6 21
11 Drt  5 15 2 12  9 21


I can't speak to (1) the tie breakers if we had used the Right Way, or (2) the official final standings this year, for that matter.  It does seem that in normal years the Participation Points will stretch the standings (see the controversial lemma, 3 > 2) and be better for the better teams, so, fine, good for us (hopefully).

In conclusion, fuck Gary Bettman.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on February 28, 2022, 09:55:30 AM
Hey, careful there. In its cover (?) story on him, Sports Illustrated said Gary Bettman may be the best commissioner the NHL ever had. If I recall, the following sentence was to the effect of, "...considering who came before him ..."
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2022, 01:22:43 PM
OK, update for the actual standings:


[b]Pl      W  L T Pt PP PN[/b]
 1 Qpc 17  4 1 35 19 54
 2 Clk 14  4 4 32 19 51
 3 Hvd 14  6 2 30 16 46
 4 Cor 12  6 4 28 11 39
 5 Cgt  9  9 4 22 11 33
 6 RPI 10 12 0 20 10 30
 7 Uni  9 11 2 20  7 27
 8 SLU  7 10 5 19  7 26
 9 Brn  6 12 4 16  9 25
10 Prn  7 14 1 15  8 23
11 Drt  5 15 2 12  9 21
12 Yal  7 14 1 15  6 21


So Yale got fucked.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2022, 01:24:44 PM
QF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Tcl123 on February 28, 2022, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: TrotskyQF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence

Which home team(s) is the most likely to get upset?
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2022, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyQF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence

Which home team(s) is the most likely to get upset?
My guess is Princeton over Union.  They mentioned on the Princeton broadcast that they were missing two vital players and expected at leas one if not both back for the playoffs.  Their #1 goalie has also just returned.

I'd be very surprised if we aren't playing Colgate next Friday.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: upprdeck on February 28, 2022, 02:27:33 PM
the quin guys thought Yale was a pretty likely upset winner..
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Iceberg on February 28, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
I can see Princeton upsetting Union. I can also see Brown getting past SLU albeit a bit less likely.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: marty on February 28, 2022, 06:11:01 PM
Just received an email that the Wicked Witch of ECAC is letting spectators watch Dartmouth at RPI this weekend!?!

::popcorn::
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on February 28, 2022, 06:17:24 PM
Best gate in LP would be Cornell, Clarkson and pick-em. Maybe Quinnipiac with visions of a march to the NCAA title might hire buses but how do they find a conditional block of 40 or 200 rooms that would let them cancel if they got bounced in the quarters? If RPI made it in, they'd draw fans.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: RichH on February 28, 2022, 06:39:11 PM
Quote from: billhowardBest gate in LP would be Cornell, Clarkson and pick-em. Maybe Quinnipiac with visions of a march to the NCAA title might hire buses but how do they find a conditional block of 40 or 200 rooms that would let them cancel if they got bounced in the quarters? If RPI made it in, they'd draw fans.

St. Lawrence? It's not like we haven't talked about this before.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Give My Regards on February 28, 2022, 08:44:05 PM
Quote from: martySince Dartmouth apparently won the tie breaker vs Yale this begs as to why they pulled their goalie in OT vs Union last night.

I would suspect there was confusion about what the tiebreaker actually was.  Even though the first tiebreaker now reads "Comparison of points attained head-to-head" rather than "head-to-head record", it's likely they thought they would lose it since their "head-to-head record" against Yale was 1-1 and Yale would have taken the second tiebreaker on league wins.

But this is the new math, and Yale's win over Dartmouth was in overtime, meaning that Dartmouth won the "comparison of points attained head-to-head", 4-2.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2022, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: billhowardBest gate in LP would be Cornell, Clarkson and pick-em.
Q drew very well the last time.  The fuckers seem to have finally learned to drive.  It's probably a doctoral program.

Union drew very well when they were strong.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: RichH on March 01, 2022, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardBest gate in LP would be Cornell, Clarkson and pick-em.
Q drew very well the last time.  The fuckers seem to have finally learned to drive.  It's probably a doctoral program.

Q is a notorious and historical commuter school, meaning most kids there are a few towns away from the parental laundry machines. An excuse to take a weekend to a resort area hours away where there are bars that are lax at carding. Like a magnet.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: dbilmes on March 01, 2022, 08:36:09 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardBest gate in LP would be Cornell, Clarkson and pick-em.
Q drew very well the last time.  The fuckers seem to have finally learned to drive.  It's probably a doctoral program.

Q is a notorious and historical commuter school, meaning most kids there are a few towns away from the parental laundry machines. An excuse to take a weekend to a resort area hours away where there are bars that are lax at carding. Like a magnet.
Q isn't as much of a commuter school as it used to be. It has built a bunch of new dorms on the hill where the hockey rink is located, and according to the school, (https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/quinnipiac-university-1402/student-life#:~:text=Quinnipiac%20University%20has%20a%20total,of%20students%20live%20off%20campus.) 55 percent of the students now live on campus. When I go for bike rides on a rail trail in Hamden, I see many Q students with out of state license plates. Only 27 percent of the students are from CT (https://www.qu.edu/about-quinnipiac/quick-facts/). It's also interesting that 62 percent of the students are female.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 01, 2022, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: dbilmesIt's also interesting that 62 percent of the [Quinnipiac] students are female.
This is good and bad for the males on campus. The bad part: If you strike out there, your case is hopeless.

I'm trying to recall issues around gender-ratio discrepancies. I believe schools are wary of an imbalance past 60-40 because, if it's > 60% female, the women aren't happy with the slimmer pickings. And I believe some schools believe > 60% female has some men believing the school is a women's college that accepts some men. That's decade-old information, though. Also, Q has a school of nursing which historically has been majority female. (But then Cornell Engineering was majority-female as of the Class of 2021. So things change.)
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 09:09:48 PM
Dartmouth wins game 1 at RPI.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 09:11:41 PM
Yale ties at Colgate with 7 seconds to play.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 09:16:17 PM
SLU with a couple late goals to lead Brown 4-1.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Union late goal has them up on Princeton, 3-1 and their announcers are so awful I can't continue listening.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 09:22:18 PM
If results hold tomorrow we'd play either Colgate (if they win in ot) or Union (if Yale wins).
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: scoop85 on March 04, 2022, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: TrotskyYale ties at Colgate with 7 seconds to play.

Looked like a soft goal
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Dunc on March 04, 2022, 09:57:31 PM
Colgate scores - but looks like they gonna look at it
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Dunc on March 04, 2022, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: DuncColgate scores - but looks like they gonna look at it

Colgate wins - refs just wanted to go home haha
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 04, 2022, 10:01:25 PM
#5 Colgate defeats #12 Yale, 3-2 (ot)
#11 Dartmouth upsets #6 RPI, 3-2
#7 Union defeats #10 Princeton, 3-2
#8 St. Lawrence defeats #9 Brown, 4-1
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Scersk '97 on March 04, 2022, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: Dunc
Quote from: DuncColgate scores - but looks like they gonna look at it

Colgate wins - refs just wanted to go home haha

Certainly looked like the ECAC's goon of the year took a stick to the head.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: ugarte on March 05, 2022, 12:52:33 AM
Colgate OT goal was pretty.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 05, 2022, 07:40:15 AM
Quote from: ugarteColgate OT goal was pretty.
Incredible effort.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 05, 2022, 09:21:44 PM
Colgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 05, 2022, 09:24:53 PM
#5 Colgate defeats #12 Yale, 3-2 (ot), 5-1
#11 Dartmouth tied with #6 RPI, 3-2, 2-3
#7 Union defeats #10 Princeton, 3-2, 5-1
#8 St. Lawrence tied with #9 Brown, 4-1, 1-2 (ot)
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: imafrshmn on March 05, 2022, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: redice on March 06, 2022, 02:40:49 AM
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: scoop85 on March 06, 2022, 07:12:42 AM
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: nshapiro on March 06, 2022, 08:06:31 AM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."
I think if he gets a partner to share the microphone with, he would be great
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: marty on March 06, 2022, 08:07:54 AM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."

Not just exhausting.  I was at the RPI game and only had ESPN+ on for part of the OT on Friday.  He was blathering about things that weren't interesting or relevant during OT. He was filling space because there was no color guy and it got annoying really fast for me.

Yet I did enjoy most of his patter during the CU @ Colgate game.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: scoop85 on March 06, 2022, 08:15:12 AM
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."
I think if he gets a partner to share the microphone with, he would be great

Yes, that would help.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: dbilmes on March 06, 2022, 08:42:55 AM
Princeton ends the season in style with 8 straight losses.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 06, 2022, 10:51:19 AM
Quote from: nshapiroI think if [John McGraw] gets a partner to share the microphone with, he would be great
If he gets another camera or two, he'd be greater still. Colgate video is one step up from the security cams at the (used loosely) downtown Hamilton Exxon Tigermart, and I bet Exxon has multiple camera angles.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 06, 2022, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: dbilmesPrinceton ends the season in style with 8 straight losses.
And Princeton ends the season the way it started, with an endowment of $4 million per student. That continues to be the most money of any school anywhere. #MakeHobeyProud
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 06, 2022, 05:39:49 PM
In the third period:

Dartmouth 3 RPI 1
Brown 3 SLU 2
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 06, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
SLU has tied Brown.

RPI has come all the way back with 2 ppg and a shorty and leads Dartmouth 4-3 with 4 minutes to go.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 06, 2022, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: TrotskySLU has tied Brown.

RPI has come all the way back with 2 ppg and a shorty and leads Dartmouth 4-3 with 4 minutes to go.
I wanted Colgate to go three games and make them tired coming into Lynah. Much prefer the Quinnipiac, Clarkson and Harvard opponents be fresh for next weekend.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: ursusminor on March 06, 2022, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: TrotskySLU has tied Brown.

RPI has come all the way back with 2 ppg and a shorty and leads Dartmouth 4-3 with 4 minutes to go.

5-3, 3rd PPG which was an ENG also.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: underskill on March 06, 2022, 06:32:29 PM
They have5 days to recover. I don't think a 3rd game makes a difference.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: scoop85 on March 06, 2022, 06:34:47 PM
Brown goalie gave up the softest goal you can imagine in the 1st couple of minutes of OT, and SLU moves on.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Iceberg on March 06, 2022, 07:51:46 PM
Quote from: scoop85Brown goalie gave up the softest goal you can imagine in the 1st couple of minutes of OT, and SLU moves on.

No kidding. Brown had the lead for most of that game. Goaltending was basically the reason they lost
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 06, 2022, 09:07:44 PM
Who has the best chance of taking down a higher seed this weekend (March 11-13), ECAC quarterfinals? Anybody?

St. Lawrence at #1 Quinnipiac
Union at #2 Clarkson
RPI at #3 Harvard
Colgate at #4 Cornell



St. Lawrence really doesn't need room reservations Saturday night in Hamden. Q's only non-wins in the ECAC are:
2-2 tie and 3-1 loss vs. Clarkson
2-1 loss, OT, and 1-0 loss vs. Cornell
1-0 loss vs. Harvard
... so any of the top-four teams perhaps could beat Quinnipiac in a single-game elimination in Lake Placid. St. Lawrence, taking 2 of 3 this weekend?

Union beat Clarkson 4-3 in OT then lost 8-2 in Potsdam.

RPI beat Harvard 2-0 then lost 5-1 in the final weekend.

Colgate as we know too well has a 2-2 tie and 3-2 loss to Cornell.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Tcl123 on March 06, 2022, 09:08:59 PM
Quote from: underskillThey have5 days to recover. I don't think a 3rd game makes a difference.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Tcl123 on March 06, 2022, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: billhowardWho has the best chance of taking down a higher seed this weekend (March 11-13), ECAC quarterfinals? Anybody?

St. Lawrence at #1 Quinnipiac
Union at #2 Clarkson
RPI at #3 Harvard
Colgate at #4 Cornell



St. Lawrence really doesn't need room reservations Saturday night in Hamden. Q's only non-wins in the ECAC are:
2-2 tie and 3-1 loss vs. Clarkson
2-1 loss, OT, and 1-0 loss vs. Cornell
1-0 loss vs. Harvard
... so any of the top-four teams perhaps could beat Quinnipiac in a single-game elimination in Lake Placid. St. Lawrence, taking 2 of 3 this weekend?

Union beat Clarkson 4-3 in OT then lost 8-2 in Potsdam.

RPI beat Harvard 2-0 then lost 5-1 in the final weekend.

Colgate as we know too well has a 2-2 tie and 3-2 loss to Cornell.

My guess is Harvard loses and we play Casey and company first round at lake placid.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: billhoward on March 06, 2022, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: toddloseMy guess is Harvard loses and we play Casey and company first round at lake placid.
Hard to see Union taking down Clarkson this weekend. I trust we've learned our lesson from the RS Colgate games, And Cornell the last two weekends of play really stepped up its game. Maybe Cornell and Quinnipiac are the ECAC's two best teams as of season's end. Just don't make us play St. Lawrence.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2022, 02:49:34 AM
Quote from: billhowardWho has the best chance of taking down a higher seed this weekend (March 11-13), ECAC quarterfinals? Anybody?

I hate this but it's clearly Colgate, because Cornell is the team that has proven they can lay an egg.

It's twoo, it's twoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25x_Up-9da0).
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: upprdeck on March 07, 2022, 09:10:14 AM
the issue is can colgate win 4x4 or 4x5 from cornell in a year and will cornell go 1-10 on the PP again.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Give My Regards on March 07, 2022, 09:28:29 AM
Quote from: billhowardSt. Lawrence really doesn't need room reservations Saturday night in Hamden. Q's only non-wins in the ECAC are:
2-2 tie and 3-1 loss vs. Clarkson
2-1 loss, OT, and 1-0 loss vs. Cornell
1-0 loss vs. Harvard
... so any of the top-four teams perhaps could beat Quinnipiac in a single-game elimination in Lake Placid. St. Lawrence, taking 2 of 3 this weekend?

Certainly a tall order... but the Saints did pick off Q in Hamden last year for the tourney championship.  Admittedly, that was only one game.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: dbilmes on March 11, 2022, 07:49:46 PM
Hard to believe, but lots of empty seats at Lynah East for Game 1 of their quarterfinal series against RPI.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: scoop85 on March 11, 2022, 09:38:05 PM
Harvard completes a comeback from 3–0 down. They win 4-3 in OT after scoring 3 EAG in the last 4 minutes of regulation (sound familiar?)

Clarkson also wins in the 1st 2 minutes of OT and beats Onion 3-2
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: BearLover on March 11, 2022, 10:57:59 PM
Cornell looked like it had so much more energy than Colgate towards the end of tonight's game. Seeing what happened at Clarkson and Harvard (both winning in OT with Harvard staging a huge comeback in the final minutes), I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing was true for those teams. Having a bye is such a massive advantage.

I agree that playoff inflation is a bad thing. IMO the fairest thing would be for only the top 4 teams to make the playoffs. But if you're going to put 8 or 12 teams in the playoffs, the most exciting system is giving the top teams the big reward (byes) to play for during the regular season.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: ursusminor on March 12, 2022, 05:39:39 AM
Quote from: scoop85Harvard completes a comeback from 3–0 down. They win 4-3 in OT after scoring 3 EAG in the last 4 minutes of regulation (sound familiar?)

Clarkson also wins in the 1st 2 minutes of OT and beats Onion 3-2

https://twitter.com/PuckingOff/status/1502503803429474304



No comment by me.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 12, 2022, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell looked like it had so much more energy than Colgate towards the end of tonight's game. Seeing what happened at Clarkson and Harvard (both winning in OT with Harvard staging a huge comeback in the final minutes), I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing was true for those teams. Having a bye is such a massive advantage.

I agree that playoff inflation is a bad thing. IMO the fairest thing would be for only the top 4 teams to make the playoffs. But if you're going to put 8 or 12 teams in the playoffs, the most exciting system is giving the top teams the big reward (byes) to play for during the regular season.

I'm not sure that having the bye was the reason for our energy explosion. I rather think it was a head thing. You could see right after Colgate took the lead, we exploded. After all we out shot them 20-7 in the second period. Although it ended up Colgate 1-0 after 2, we certainly had taken control.

My question was whether the young team could put aside that they hadn't yet scored and come out with the same intensity in the third. I guess they showed me, although Colgate's DiPaolo helped. And you wonder what effect having Coach Schafer behind the bench added.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 01:33:19 PM
Grady and Tim did comment that early in the game Cornell was hitting the body hard and that might show as the night wore on.

If that's so we should expect the same tactics tonight.

I think outshooting them 37-10 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220311.pdf) down the stretch may have been closer than the actual level of dominance.  That was some 2003 shit there.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: marty on March 12, 2022, 01:49:12 PM
Quote from: TrotskyGrady and Tim did comment that early in the game Cornell was hitting the body hard and that might show as the night wore on.

If that's so we should expect the same tactics tonight.

I think outshooting them 37-10 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220311.pdf) down the stretch may have been closer than the actual level of dominance.  That was some 2003 shit there.

Young got banged up a few times and looked close to losing it.  Manderville also pushed some of our guys around.  He's got some serious size.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 02:12:45 PM
Oh, I have to mention I love the change on the pp.  They went super aggressive - very rarely once they got low did they throw it back out to the point.  Somebody tough, Andreev or Psenicka usually, would protect the puck with his body and grind inside and then either fire it or dish it in front.  We had a TON of great chances on this and we also used the extra man effectively to win a lot of the battles for the loose puck after and then put it right back on Benson or set up and fire from the circles.

It was such a dramatic change from all year.  I'm not sure whether they would dare try it against somebody like Clarkson with their explosive counterattack.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 07:01:46 PM
As of now, the Cornell Athletic site is down and the ECAC site doesn't show any links to video.

ESPN+ either will or will not come through.  Edit: it did.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 07:41:22 PM
SLU 1 Q 0
Clarkson 2 Union 1
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 09:49:13 PM
The other 3 QF games all in overtime at 3-3.

Clarkson wins theirs and advances.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2022, 09:50:20 PM
Harvard gets a major in overtime and Ted Donato has turned a darker crimson than the empty seats at Bright.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: dbilmes on March 12, 2022, 10:25:50 PM
RPI scores on a textbook 2-on-1 break early in the second OT to send the handful of Harvard fans home disappointed. RPI goalie made 47 saves.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: ursusminor on March 13, 2022, 08:00:14 AM
Quote from: dbilmesRPI scores on a textbook 2-on-1 break early in the second OT to send the handful of Harvard fans home disappointed. RPI goalie made 47 saves.

It looked a bit like Houston East. ;-)   (A.k.a. Galveston.)
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: Trotsky on March 13, 2022, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: dbilmesRPI scores on a textbook 2-on-1 break early in the second OT to send the handful of Harvard fans home disappointed. RPI goalie made 47 saves.

It looked a bit like Houston East. ;-)   (A.k.a. Galveston.)

I noticed a lot of RPI fans and a lot of cheering for RPI during the overtime.  Good stuff.  Beat em again today.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: ursusminor on March 13, 2022, 10:18:47 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: dbilmesRPI scores on a textbook 2-on-1 break early in the second OT to send the handful of Harvard fans home disappointed. RPI goalie made 47 saves.

It looked a bit like Houston East. ;-)   (A.k.a. Galveston.)

I noticed a lot of RPI fans and a lot of cheering for RPI during the overtime.  Good stuff.  Beat em again today.

It's probably due in part to the attendance rules in Troy this year.
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 13, 2022, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."
I think if he gets a partner to share the microphone with, he would be great

http://graphics.boston.com/sports/nesn/aboutus/onair/bobnorton.html
Title: Re: ECAC playoffs 2022
Post by: RichH on March 13, 2022, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: redice
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyColgate sweeps Yale and will face us.

Colgate announcer gives a shout-out to "my friend Jason Weinstein," and wishes Mike Schafer a healthy return.

Colgate announcer John McGraw has some hilarious quips and a dorky, nasally affect. Honestly one of the best in the biz.

Actually, he's the one announcer that I came to dislike this weekend and I listened to all four.   To his credit, I'm amazed that he can recall all of that minutia, on the fly, while staying up with the play-by-play.    But, to me, it made me weary trying to process all of it and also follow the flow of the game.   I ended up muting the tv.

I agree. While I'm impressed with this ability to name every junior program a kid played for on the fly, listening to him can be exhausting. He needs to remember that sometimes "less is more."
I think if he gets a partner to share the microphone with, he would be great

http://graphics.boston.com/sports/nesn/aboutus/onair/bobnorton.html

Frickin everybody went to ahhh Ahpple Cohrrre