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Title: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2022, 05:14:50 PM
Our annual game at the university that named its school of broadcasting after Ed McMahon, who give a bunch of money then went broke. Also against the ECAC school that stands the best chance of skating off with the NCAA trophy in April. The most important odds are the over/under: Half the student body will have decamped for parties by ... the under-10 ice cleaning of the second period.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Tcl123 on February 25, 2022, 09:05:52 PM
Quote from: billhowardOur annual game at the university that named its school of broadcasting after Ed McMahon, who give a bunch of money then went broke. Also against the ECAC school that stands the best chance of skating off with the NCAA trophy in April. The most important odds are the over/under: Half the student body will have decamped for parties by ... the under-10 ice cleaning of the second period.

They will not win an ncaa trophy. Not this year. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: CU2007 on February 25, 2022, 09:19:18 PM
Good lord. Did we just find our goalie for the next 3 years? That may have been the best goaltending performance since .... I don't even know?
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: nshapiro on February 25, 2022, 09:21:36 PM
The Q Team once again demonstrates they have as much class as their coach
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: semsox on February 25, 2022, 09:22:04 PM
Ho hum, another top 10 win
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: imafrshmn on February 25, 2022, 09:24:14 PM
Ian Shane, wow wow wow. This kid is becoming the real deal.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: scoop85 on February 25, 2022, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: semsoxHo hum, another top 10 win

Great to get the win, but man were we allergic to the puck the last half of that game. Shane stole one for sure.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: CU2007 on February 25, 2022, 09:28:23 PM
Top 3 teams in the league all lost in regulation. Could be a wild ECAC tourney!
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: marty on February 25, 2022, 09:29:35 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: semsoxHo hum, another top 10 win

Great to get the win, but man were we allergic to the puck the last half of that game. Shane stole one for sure.

In the 3rd Cornell didn't even pretend to forecheck.  Defensive shell 101.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: BearLover on February 25, 2022, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: semsoxHo hum, another top 10 win

Great to get the win, but man were we allergic to the puck the last half of that game. Shane stole one for sure.

In the 3rd Cornell didn't even pretend to forecheck.  Defensive shell 101.
I didn't see Cornell doing anything particularly wrong on the forecheck, I just think Q is too good a possession team. Cornell played well defensively. Q had no good passing or shooting lanes for almost the entire game. Shane was incredibly solid and made some nice saves, but the defense made it so that he didn't have to make too many highlight reel ones. Great effort tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: ugarte on February 25, 2022, 09:39:00 PM
this season lol
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: dbilmes on February 25, 2022, 09:39:36 PM
I was pleasantly surprised by the professionalism of the Q announcers on ESPN Plus. Perhaps it was because he was a former assistant at Q, but Ben Seyer's name was mentioned more during this broadcast than at most of the other road games since he has been in charge of the team.
Does anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.
I'm sure Q would love a shot at us in the ECACs. If they get their wish, hopefully it will be in the semis and not in the quarterfinals.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2022, 09:43:53 PM
cornells big problem is just unforced mistakes.. skating out with pressure we dont try to clear.. clear with  little pressure we throw it in bad spots.. we had 3-4-5 chances down the stretch to clear with the goalie out and never got close to the line,

in the first couple periods we had half a dozen pass to the pt lead to scary stretched the other way.

we just lack that 1 guy who scares other teams.  no one worries about pressing up and they adds more stress to the D.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: RichH on February 25, 2022, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: dbilmesI was pleasantly surprised by the professionalism of the Q announcers on ESPN Plus. Perhaps it was because he was a former assistant at Q, but Ben Seyer's name was mentioned more during this broadcast than at most of the other road games since he has been in charge of the team.
Does anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.
I'm sure Q would love a shot at us in the ECACs. If they get their wish, hopefully it will be in the semis and not in the quarterfinals.

We clinched at least 5th tonight, and they can't finish lower than 2nd. It can't be in the QF.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2022, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: RichHWe clinched at least 5th tonight, and they can't finish lower than 2nd. It can't be in the QF.
If we finish 4th where we are now I believe, and Q finishes first, where they are, and higher-seeded teams win out in all the intermediate playoff games, wouldn't Friday at LP be be 1-4 at 4 pm and 2-3 at 7:30 and we meet Q again?

We could avoid miss playing Q on Friday only if there's a 6-12 upset in the quarterfinal weekend so a 6-12 seed makes Lake Placid, because they reseed for LP as well, I believe, and Q gets the low survivor Friday?

Edit add: You said QF and I wrote about the SF. None of the 1-2-3-4 seeds play each other in the QFs.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Dafatone on February 25, 2022, 10:04:31 PM
Quote from: dbilmesI was pleasantly surprised by the professionalism of the Q announcers on ESPN Plus. Perhaps it was because he was a former assistant at Q, but Ben Seyer's name was mentioned more during this broadcast than at most of the other road games since he has been in charge of the team.
Does anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.
I'm sure Q would love a shot at us in the ECACs. If they get their wish, hopefully it will be in the semis and not in the quarterfinals.

I just assumed Q students weren't bright enough to think of jokes that made sense.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: scoop85 on February 25, 2022, 10:09:04 PM
Quote from: dbilmesDoes anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.

I thought the kid holding the sign looked about 10 years old, but I guess that wouldn't disqualify him from being a Q student.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Dunc on February 25, 2022, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RichHWe clinched at least 5th tonight, and they can't finish lower than 2nd. It can't be in the QF.
If we finish 4th where we are now I believe, and Q finishes first, where they are, and higher-seeded teams win out in all the intermediate playoff games, wouldn't Friday at LP be be 1-4 at 4 pm and 2-3 at 7:30 and we meet Q again?

We could avoid miss playing Q on Friday only if there's a 6-12 upset in the quarterfinal weekend so a 6-12 seed makes Lake Placid, because they reseed for LP as well, I believe, and Q gets the low survivor Friday?

No Quarter finals have 4 games not 2, so seeds 1, 2, 3, and, 4 will all play in separate quarter final games. If we end up 5th, then then we would play 4 in the quarter finals because we would be the best seed other than 1 through 4. Earliest we can meet them is in the semifinals

Edit: nvm i completely misread ur post
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2022, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: dbilmesI was pleasantly surprised by the professionalism of the Q announcers on ESPN Plus. Perhaps it was because he was a former assistant at Q, but Ben Seyer's name was mentioned more during this broadcast than at most of the other road games since he has been in charge of the team.
Does anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.
I'm sure Q would love a shot at us in the ECACs. If they get their wish, hopefully it will be in the semis and not in the quarterfinals.
I take it Q now has an senior-honors English program that includes "use of irony in contemporary fiction and signage."

Please don't ask why I took a photo of this. It just happened.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2022, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: dbilmesDoes anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.

I thought the kid holding the sign looked about 10 years old, but I guess that wouldn't disqualify him from being a Q student.
If the kid is 10, they're getting more vitamins these days.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2022, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: dbilmesDoes anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.

I thought the kid holding the sign looked about 10 years old, but I guess that wouldn't disqualify him from being a Q student.
The little 60-second video of Q fans getting ready for the Yale game was pretty well done for in-house PR and the students look both wholesome and not all country-club white.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Roy 82 on February 25, 2022, 10:43:23 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: dbilmesDoes anyone know the meaning of the sign a Q student was holding which said: Cornell, oldest joke in hockey.

I thought the kid holding the sign looked about 10 years old, but I guess that wouldn't disqualify him from being a Q student.
The little 60-second video of Q fans getting ready for the Yale game was pretty well done for in-house PR and the students look both wholesome and not all country-club white.

I liked the jewel-studded masks on the cheerleaders. If everyone had those from the beginning then the pandemic would have ended a long time ago as everyone would want to strut that bling.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: ugarte on February 25, 2022, 11:02:07 PM
i like how the guy holding up the sign told you how many pucks we'd need to get past perets to win
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 25, 2022, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: CU2007Top 3 teams in the league all lost in regulation. Could be a wild ECAC tourney!

Clarkson lost to Yale in OT, so they got a point.  If I'm reading it right, that means they can still catch Q, since they're only 3 points back and hold the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2022, 11:34:34 PM
yeah too bad princ didnt hold on for the OT.

we got 4 shots for 4th win/get to ot/colg loses/colg goes to OT
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2022, 11:38:12 PM
strange season to never trail Quin or Clark and trailed Harv for only last 4 min and 7 min of per 2 and then struggle so much against the bottom teams..
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: ice on February 26, 2022, 12:01:41 AM
Shane played his best game of the season with a shutout on 42 shots.  He seems to have adjusted his game and isn't moving out of the crease as much to challenge potential shooters.  I think that helped him a lot tonight.  

It seemed that Q was trying to harass Shane after he had made about 20 stops.  At one point in the second period, Bongiovanni needlessly skated right through the crease, behind Shane.  Later in the game, Shane had to make a Scrivens move and pull a Q skater out of the crease with his glove.  Then of course there was the check with 11 seconds to go.  Was that accidental?  I doubt it.  I think the Q skater could have avoided that.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: CU2007 on February 26, 2022, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: CU2007Top 3 teams in the league all lost in regulation. Could be a wild ECAC tourney!

Clarkson lost to Yale in OT, so they got a point.  If I'm reading it right, that means they can still catch Q, since they're only 3 points back and hold the tiebreaker.

Good catch, the app didn't feel the need to specify that the game went to OT which is pretty imprtant these days
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: ice on February 26, 2022, 12:10:38 AM
Q is not the Q of a few years ago.  It used to be that they buzzed around a lot and took 60+ wild shots per game.  This year's team has some heavy hitters.  They also have some cheaters.  During the second period, a Big Red player lost his stick while he was in the Cornell defensive zone.  A Q player cleared the stick away into center ice to make it hard for the Cornell player to retrieve it.  About a minute later, a second Cornell player lost his stick and the same thing happened so that two Cornell players didn't have their sticks.  I have never seen that in a hockey game before.  The ref called the second stick clearer (Brendan Less) for a 2 minute interference penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Swampy on February 26, 2022, 01:03:37 AM
Quote from: iceShane played his best game of the season with a shutout on 42 shots.  He seems to have adjusted his game and isn't moving out of the crease as much to challenge potential shooters.  I think that helped him a lot tonight.  

It seemed that Q was trying to harass Shane after he had made about 20 stops.  At one point in the second period, Bongiovanni needlessly skated right through the crease, behind Shane.  Later in the game, Shane had to make a Scrivens move and pull a Q skater out of the crease with his glove.  Then of course there was the check with 11 seconds to go.  Was that accidental?  I doubt it.  I think the Q skater could have avoided that.

I agree that he played his best game, but he's seemed to have improved the past few games he's played. Maybe it's the system, and maybe it's the coaching. We're not called "Goaltender U" for nothin.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: andyw2100 on February 26, 2022, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: iceA Q player cleared the stick away into center ice to make it hard for the Cornell player to retrieve it.  About a minute later, a second Cornell player lost his stick and the same thing happened so that two Cornell players didn't have their sticks.  I have never seen that in a hockey game before.  The ref called the second stick clearer (Brendan Less) for a 2 minute interference penalty.

In a recent game at Lynah--perhaps the St. Lawrence game--Ian Shane had lost his stick in some action around the goal, and his stick was moved well out of the crease, presumably by an opposing player. Play continued, and several seconds later he wound up stopping a shot with his chest, but the rebound was put in. I wondered about whether the intentional moving of the dropped goalie stick away from the goalie could have been penalized, and tonight I learned that apparently it could have been. Of course I couldn't actually see how the stick got moved well out of the crease, so it could have been unintentionally kicked, or at least if an opposing player did kick it he may have had plausible deniability. I may have to go looking for the replay of that tomorrow.

Edit: I didn't have to search very hard. It's in the highlights: https://youtu.be/_i7dz75mfZ4

The St. Lawrence player does skate the stick away from Shane, but one could argue, I suppose, that he didn't do it on purpose.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: BearLover on February 26, 2022, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: iceQ is not the Q of a few years ago.  It used to be that they buzzed around a lot and took 60+ wild shots per game.  This year's team has some heavy hitters.  They also have some cheaters.  During the second period, a Big Red player lost his stick while he was in the Cornell defensive zone.  A Q player cleared the stick away into center ice to make it hard for the Cornell player to retrieve it.  About a minute later, a second Cornell player lost his stick and the same thing happened so that two Cornell players didn't have their sticks.  I have never seen that in a hockey game before.  The ref called the second stick clearer (Brendan Less) for a 2 minute interference penalty.
42 is still a lot of shots...not many of them were wild, but a lot of them were from the point. Q was clearly the better team, but Cornell kept them to the outside and cut off the cross-ice pass. Shane did the rest. Cornell also broke out of their own zone more successfully than it has this year. I thought this was a solid performance despite the huge shot disparity. This team has really bought into the program's defensive philosophy. The offense hasn't been there lately. Hard to tell how much of that is talent and how much is the players not having much college hockey experience. The fast and skilled guys like Ertel and Mack are seeing much less open space than they saw in junior hockey and they need to find ways to adjust.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: BearLover on February 26, 2022, 09:07:05 AM
Seeing the way Q has played since it came on as a top program in 2013, as well as the way the professional game has changed, it seems the key to a team's offense is how offensively skilled the defensemen are. You really want all D-men to be able to carry the puck up ice, create offense from the point, and join the rush. Big, plodding shut-down D-men are just too much of a liability on offense.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Robb on February 26, 2022, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: iceQ is not the Q of a few years ago.  It used to be that they buzzed around a lot and took 60+ wild shots per game.  This year's team has some heavy hitters.  They also have some cheaters.  During the second period, a Big Red player lost his stick while he was in the Cornell defensive zone.  A Q player cleared the stick away into center ice to make it hard for the Cornell player to retrieve it.  About a minute later, a second Cornell player lost his stick and the same thing happened so that two Cornell players didn't have their sticks.  I have never seen that in a hockey game before.  The ref called the second stick clearer (Brendan Less) for a 2 minute interference penalty.
Cornell also broke out of their own zone more successfully than it has this year.
Right after we scored, this thought went through my head: "Man, I hope we can break out well tonight.  With the No-Change rule, we can't just ice the puck for 2.5 periods the way we did in the 1996 ECAC final."

Fortunately, the kids wer all right.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: dbilmes on February 26, 2022, 01:05:49 PM
Quinnipiac student paper did a good job getting an article (https://quchronicle.com/76117/sports/no-5-quinnipiac-swept-by-no-18-cornell-cleary-cup-still-within-grasp/) up quickly about the game. Quote from Pecknold:
"I thought our guys played really well. Perets was great again. We played great. That was really one of our better games of the year. We just couldn't score."
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: ACM on February 26, 2022, 07:23:57 PM
Guess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: andyw2100 on February 26, 2022, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: ACMGuess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".

Yes, but they missed Quinnipiac's extra skater. Five skaters on each team got 2 minutes for roughing and 10 minute minors. So 60 minutes per team. But nothing for Quinnipiac's extra attacker!
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: marty on February 26, 2022, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: ACMGuess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".

Yes, but they missed Quinnipiacc's extra skater. Five skaters on each team got 2 minutes for roughing and 10 minute minors. So 60 minutes per team. But nothing for Quinnipiac's extra attacker!

Maybe he couldn't find a dance partner.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Robb on February 26, 2022, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: ACMGuess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".
Was that the Damian Rocke game?
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 27, 2022, 05:07:45 AM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: ACMGuess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".
Was that the Damian Rocke game?
Damian Rocke was a road game.
Title: Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac Fri 2/25/22
Post by: Give My Regards on February 27, 2022, 06:32:18 AM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: ACMGuess there was a massive bookkeeping exercise at the end of last night's game. Minors and miscoducts against everyone on the ice. What I once referred to as "a whole mess of penalties".
Was that the Damian Rocke game?

Leeor Shtrom.