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Title: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 17, 2022, 08:55:10 PM
It's Senior Weekend (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/2/16/mens-ice-hockey-senior-weekend-pits-18-mens-hockey-vs-north-country-foes.aspx).  Whatever that is now.

Can the Seniors come back next year, or was that just for this year?

Seems to me this is a good opportunity to let the next three classes do it as they were all affected, then just blow away the restriction and join the rest of college hockey in being reasonable.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 17, 2022, 09:33:14 PM
Morally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
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Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 17, 2022, 11:06:26 PM
ivies since they dont really have scholie limits should just let kids do what the want to stay in school or not..  its really dumb to prevent kids going to an ivy school from continuing on with an education in a grad program but force them to go play someplace else.. isnt that the reason they claim they dont take sports as serious because its school first.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Tcl123 on February 18, 2022, 06:44:34 AM
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: nshapiro on February 18, 2022, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Robb on February 18, 2022, 09:48:39 AM
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
I question his math.  How is 22-point Harvard ahead of 23-point Cornell?
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 10:10:17 AM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
I question his math.  How is 22-point Harvard ahead of 23-point Cornell?
game in hand
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 18, 2022, 10:55:26 AM
game in hand usually only matters if you are tied though..  if it was 10 pts to 1 and 4 games in hand i would hardly say the team with 1 pt was ahead even if they could get there eventually
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 18, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
I question his math.  How is 22-point Harvard ahead of 23-point Cornell?
"Won-lost" percentage.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Give My Regards on February 18, 2022, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
I question his math.  How is 22-point Harvard ahead of 23-point Cornell?
Not to pile on, but Colgate should have 18 points, not 22.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: marty on February 18, 2022, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: TrotskyMorally Rectified Standings going into the game:
       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  23
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  22
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9

+1
I am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.
I question his math.  How is 22-point Harvard ahead of 23-point Cornell?
Not to pile on, but Colgate should have 18 points, not 22.

And Cornell 22?
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Mathematically Rectified Morally Rectified Standings for You Fuckers:

       
        [b]GP  W  L  T Pts  Pct[/b]
 1 Qpc  17 14  2  1  29 .853
 2 Clk  18 12  2  4  28 .778
 3 Hvd  17 10  5  2  22 .647
 4 Cor  18  9  5  4  22 .611
 5 Clg  18  7  7  4  18 .500
 6 RPI  18  8 10  0  16 .444
 7 Prn  17  7  9  1  15 .441
 8 Uni  18  7 10  1  15 .417
 9 Brn  18  6 10  2  14 .389
 9 SLU  18  5  9  4  14 .389
11 Drt  18  4 12  2  10 .278
12 Yal  17  4 12  1   9 .265
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: nshapiroI am guessing that you gave credit for a win/loss if a game was decided in 3-on-3 overtime.  I might have to question your morals.

I don't disagree, but they didn't give me much choice other than counting it as a tie after 60, which would have been more of a reach from The Way.

Please tell me this 3x3 shoot out shit all goes away next year?  Please?  There are levels of Creeping Meatballism I will never accept.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 18, 2022, 03:19:57 PM
ask the coaches why they wanted the 3x3
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 06:29:21 PM
Just tuned in a couple minutes early and got an earful of derp.  Jesus fuck.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 06:33:08 PM
Ertel and Shane back.  Mike is at the rink (!!!) but not behind the bench tonight.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 07:36:06 PM
End 1:

SLU 1 Cor 0
Clk 1 Clg 0
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: CU2007 on February 18, 2022, 08:05:07 PM
Beautiful skating and goal from Betts there
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 08:05:20 PM
Now that's a goal from Betts. Pretty.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: scoop85 on February 18, 2022, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: ugarteNow that's a goal from Betts. Pretty.

I've never seen Betts with such a skilled moved.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Scersk '97 on February 18, 2022, 08:33:57 PM
Looks like SLU gets a major for kneeing at the end of the 2nd!
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 18, 2022, 08:40:30 PM
Colgate now trailing 4-0.  RPI and Princeton both winning.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Give My Regards on February 18, 2022, 08:50:51 PM
Gad.  That PP was deeeeee-pressing.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: arugula on February 18, 2022, 09:11:55 PM
Does the ice look choppy tonight? Or can we be that sloppy?
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 09:15:12 PM
Quote from: arugulaDoes the ice look choppy tonight? Or can we be that sloppy?
we're that sloppy. i think we got a good deal on extra-thin stick blades.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Iceberg on February 18, 2022, 09:20:44 PM
Oh look, another overtime game at home.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 09:26:39 PM
It is so hard to watch this team bumble their way around the offensive zone.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: scoop85 on February 18, 2022, 09:27:28 PM
A well-deserved loss. We're lucky to get a point.

Very poor performance. Any hope that the Union win would turn things around seems like wishful thinking.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: CU2007 on February 18, 2022, 09:31:28 PM
Soooooo 2 of our last 3 against clarkson/qpac .... Not great
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 18, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
looks like a team where the young kids have hit the wall and the elder kids not talented enough to take control..  but man how many pucks can one team have bounce over a stick in a game..
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: BearLover on February 18, 2022, 09:38:12 PM
This team is putrid. The forwards just fumble the puck around, the defensemen who can actually create offense repeatedly turn the puck over, often in front of their own goal. And the goaltending is mediocre. Cornell is lucky they play so hard on defense or else they'd be a bottom-four team.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: scoop85 on February 18, 2022, 09:39:47 PM
The downward trend in performance has dovetailed with Schafer's continued absence. The connection seems more and more evident by the game.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: BearLover on February 18, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Schafer is a great coach, but he isn't going to save a team getting badly outshot by the 49th best team in the pairwise.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: BearLoverSchafer is a great coach, but he isn't going to save a team getting badly outshot by the 49th best team in the pairwise.
What's maddening is that SLU didn't seem to have a possession advantage. They just shot the fucking puck at the net.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ice on February 18, 2022, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: ugarteWhat's maddening is that SLU didn't seem to have a possession advantage. They just shot the *** puck at the net

SLU won on hustle, faster transitions and lack of fear.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: upprdeck on February 18, 2022, 10:25:40 PM
alot of complaining goes away if they just score on 1 of the many chances from a few ft away..
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: ugarte on February 18, 2022, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: upprdeckalot of complaining goes away if they just score on 1 of the many chances from a few ft away..
but they don't! it's not one game! it's that they simply ... don't!
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: BearLover on February 18, 2022, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: upprdeckalot of complaining goes away if they just score on 1 of the many chances from a few ft away..
but they don't! it's not one game! it's that they simply ... don't!
Also, our opponents miss just as many of these chances as we do. Cornell turned the puck over in front of its own net at least three times tonight and none of them went in.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2022, 01:49:32 AM
Grasping at straws here, but if they come out and win tonight and in Hamden then what we'll have is a team who can beat or be beaten by anybody any given night.  Such teams can be very dangerous in the tournament.

OTOH we could be 5 losses from golf now.  What a very strange season. Maybe they're trying to wrap it up as soon as possible to go easy on Mike's heart.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Give My Regards on February 19, 2022, 07:32:19 AM
Quote from: TrotskyOTOH we could be 5 losses from golf now.  What a very strange season. Maybe they're trying to wrap it up as soon as possible to go easy on Mike's heart.

Yeah, well, watching that wasn't particularly good for my heart; I can't imagine it was 100% beneficial for his.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2022, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: TrotskyOTOH we could be 5 losses from golf now.  What a very strange season. Maybe they're trying to wrap it up as soon as possible to go easy on Mike's heart.

Yeah, well, watching that wasn't particularly good for my heart; I can't imagine it was 100% beneficial for his.
I am screaming a lot at the computer these days, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence at Cornell, 2/18/22
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2022, 09:41:41 AM
It's up to Jim; he started the Q thread.