Cornell student Karen Chen bounced back from a poor performance in the short skate to help the US win a silver medal in the team skating (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gzj5-kklzM). According to Corey Earle, she is the first Cornellian to win a medal while still a Cornell student since Brianne Jenner '15 won gold for Team Canada in women's hockey at Sochi in 2014.
can she stickhandle
Bleep. Silver is first loser. Bronze is "I made the podium." But still, very nice.
About Cornell undergrads winning Gold while on the Hill: I was about to say, didn't Dryden backstop Canada's Olympic team his senior year, 1970, took two weeks off and Bob Rule in the nets keeping Cornell hockey unbeaten. You know, the year USA beat Russia for Gold. I think that's how it went. I could be wrong. I'm waiting -- well, not really waiting -- for some obituary of Dryden to cite that 29-0 1970 season. It's part of the legend.
And definitely better than F^2....
F'ing Fourth, as I heard some Canadian womens rowers describe it when hanging out with a rowing buddy who got a silver in LA in '84.
I for one plan to spend 11 pm to 2 am EST Monday/Tuesday, watching Cornell -- sorry, Team Canada -- try to make amends for 2018. Even if this is not the final.
There should be a drinking game, you down a shot every time there's another up close and personal of an American athlete overcoming a personal struggle to be on the team and aim for gold. Meanwhile, there's some Ukraine skater whose brother is on the border with a Vietnam surplus armored vest looking out at 50,000 Russian troops.
Quote from: billhowardI for one plan to spend 11 pm to 2 am EST Monday/Tuesday, watching Cornell -- sorry, Team Canada -- try to make amends for 2018. Even if this is not the final.
There should be a drinking game, you down a shot every time there's another up close and personal of an American athlete overcoming a personal struggle to be on the team and aim for gold. Meanwhile, there's some Ukraine skater whose brother is on the border with a Vietnam surplus armored vest looking out at 50,000 Russian troops.
How about an enticing shot plugging Mikaela Shiffrin? I don't know if this qualifies as schadenfreude, but after hearing her being plugged every 10 minutes all evening last night, I took a certain pleasure seeing her fall down on her first run.
I don't wish her any ill. OTOH, the corporate marketing of good-looking people qualifies as a 21st century, neoliberal form of slave trading. -- Not quite, because the marketed body is richly rewarded. But it's still commodifying people.
Quote from: SwampyI don't wish her any ill. OTOH, the corporate marketing of good-looking people qualifies as a 21st century, neoliberal form of slave trading. -- Not quite, because the marketed body is richly rewarded. But it's still commodifying people.
She doesn't get marketed because she is good looking; she gets marketed because she is the best women's skier of all time. Now, you may be confused because NBC otherwise produces packages on athletes for the reason you suggest, or any number of other even less savory reasons, the most obvious of which during the Olympics is suffer porn. No, Shiffrin is our best chance for an alpine medal—Cochran-Siegel is really an outside chance if you look at his WC history. They made an obvious call there.
Regarding Schadenfreude, you might want to leave US skiers out of it. We are by no means dominant in alpine, and, if you watched the rest of the GS, are having something of a tough go so far. I focus my inappropriate Schadenfreude on over-marketed snowboarders, part of NBC's conspiracy to prop up a thankfully dying "sport."
Regarding the excesses of neo-liberalism, I assume you don't watch professional sports?
USA putting a lot of pressure on Cornell in period 1.
Quote from: cu155USA putting a lot of pressure on Cornell in period 1.
But Cornell wins 4-2. Jenner '15 scores 2 goals.
Free Tibet!
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: cu155USA putting a lot of pressure on Cornell in period 1.
But Cornell wins 4-2. Jenner '15 scores 2 goals.
Free Tibet!
Lol, you're going to get me sent to a garlic peeling operation in Xinjiang with posts like that!
Micah Zandee-Hart I think had an assist on one of the goals as well.
US outshot Cornell 2-1 so while our women were better offensively, the Team Canada goaltender was the star of the game.
Quote from: dag14US outshot Cornell 2-1 so while our women were better offensively, the Team Canada goaltender was the star of the game.
It's the system (?)
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: dag14US outshot Cornell 2-1 so while our women were better offensively, the Team Canada goaltender was the star of the game.
It's the systemTM (?)
Quote from: dag14US outshot Cornell 2-1 so while our women were better offensively, the Team Canada goaltender was the star of the game.
i don't know that i'd say this despite the shot advantage. there were stretches where US was puck-dominant but the quality of chances on the Canadian side was much higher. it was a great game.
A GREAT effort. You out-Trotskyed Trotsky! Never saw that done before... We ugly people deserve equal opportunity.
Quote from: TimVA GREAT effort. You out-Trotskyed Trotsky! Never saw that done before... We ugly people deserve equal opportunity.
Can confirm.
Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Former Clarkson captain Savannah Harmon scored in the 3rd to pretty much ice the game.
Quote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Former Clarkson captain Savannah Harmon scored in the 3rd to pretty much ice the game.
Which proves my point. She's a force all game long. Where's Maddie Mills?
I mean, we, by which I mean we Cornellians, have been watching it for years on the men's side: it's kind of difficult to predict the development of the ability to finish. But the national women's side has a lot of data. I just don't think they put enough snipers on the team. Canada did. After that preliminary round game, I give Canada a distinct advantage in a potential gold-medal game.
I don't care how many shots you put on net—heck, we saw Clarkson toss in a ton of pucks during the Morris years, and QU does that now—if you can't put them in the back of the net. And constant flicks to the front of the net and backdoors on the power play aren't going to cut it against a team that is wise and has a good goalie, like CZE was and had.
We all know that women's hockey goes through the US college funnel. How can there be such a disparity in representation of conferences between the two teams? Canada looks balanced. On the US side, there's Harmon from Clarkson and that's it for the ECAC. Hunh?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Brianne Jenner had her second hat trick of the Olympics in Canada's 11-0 win over Sweden, and Jillian Saulnier got her first Olympic point. A couple of assists for Micah Zandee-Hart and one for Rebecca Johnston. Jenner's 8 goals overall are tied for the most in the tournament.
Quote from: billhowardBleep. Silver is first loser. Bronze is "I made the podium." But still, very nice.
About Cornell undergrads winning Gold while on the Hill: I was about to say, didn't Dryden backstop Canada's Olympic team his senior year, 1970, took two weeks off and Bob Rule in the nets keeping Cornell hockey unbeaten. You know, the year USA beat Russia for Gold. I think that's how it went. I could be wrong. I'm waiting -- well, not really waiting -- for some obituary of Dryden to cite that 29-0 1970 season. It's part of the legend.
...unless you "lose" to a Russian in which case it is best non-steroidal performance. But seriously, a 15 year-old needs performance enhancing drugs?
But also, I would give my right [insert favorite body part] to just make an Olympic team. A silver medal is phenomenal. Aside from Trotsky, who is too far gone to save, are we really that cynical as to dismiss a silver frickin' medal? B-]
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: blackwidowQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022
Sort by nationality and position. I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: blackwidowQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022
Sort by nationality and position. I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).
This is just a list of the top point scorers, which doesn't account for the ECAC playing fewer games. If you sort by points per game, Abbruzzese is #7 among Americans and Farrell is #16.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: blackwidowQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: blackwidowQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Watching the CZE/USA game, it's clear that the US is hurt by its lack of Cornell students/alums.
I mean, I understand all the Minnesota and Wisconsin, but three from BC? Three more from Northeastern and BU?
Just like the men's team—always trying to recreate 1980, with its mix of Minnesota and New England.
Those may still be the regions which disproportionately recruit from the US.
I tend to forget there even is men's Olympic hockey.
Regarding the men's side, it has clearly been a scramble. It'll be easy to root for this ragtag bunch.
Yet, I understand why you put Agostino and O'Neill on—those guys were killers and they're available. But the two Harvard boys? Are they really the best available? Did they just call up Teddy and say, "Hey, you got anything for us?" It's like that every time.
Well, Farrell had 3 goals and 2 assist and Abruzzese had 2 assists against China yesterday, so hard to criticize their inclusion at this point.
China isnt a competitive team though. I do feel i can name dozens of players in the NCAA that are better than those, let alone players in the KHL and SHL
Curious who you believe are the dozens of players in the NCAA better than them. Feel free to list.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/ncaa/stats/2021-2022
Sort by nationality and position. I personally wouldnt take anyone from the ECAC in general (especially this year).
This is just a list of the top point scorers, which doesn't account for the ECAC playing fewer games. If you sort by points per game, Abbruzzese is #7 among Americans and Farrell is #16.
Yeah I'm accounting for that as well plus the quality of the opponents they went against. I wouldve taken more from the NCHC and Big 10. I wouldnt consider those two Harvard guys as bottom 6 either given their lack of size. Im sure they have credible shots at the NHL and Harvard has been a pipeline to the NHL. I just dont give much credence to their inflated PPG against ECAC opponents. I disagree they are the best qualified for this moment at the Olympics.
Brianne Jenner was named tournament MVP (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2022/olympic-%EF%BD%97/news/32177/jenner_mvp_all-stars_announced) after Canada's gold-medal win. Jill Saulnier was pretty happy about the whole deal. (https://www.instagram.com/p/CaE-MGnpd47/)
Quote from: WederBrianne Jenner was named tournament MVP (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2022/olympic-%EF%BD%97/news/32177/jenner_mvp_all-stars_announced) after Canada's gold-medal win. Jill Saulnier was pretty happy about the whole deal. (https://www.instagram.com/p/CaE-MGnpd47/)
Rebecca, too: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2022/olympic-%ef%bd%97/news/32184/accounting_for_gold
No Cornellians involved, but what an incredibly dumb ending to the ROC v. SWE game. There were about three chances each in a 10-minute, 3-on-3 overtime, and then a penalty shootout that eventually goes to "sudden-death," which just makes all kinds of sense. It's just asinine.
I maybe, maybe could understand 4-on-4, which approximates hockey. All of this chicanery needs to die a quick and lasting death.