A new approach is needed.
Still no Mike.
Oh god, Meehan has an idiot screamer PA now too. It was pathetic enough when it was Thompson. Here? FFS.
If Lynah replaces Art with one I am going to be on the news.
ESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
Quote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
Would improve his call.
I think I saw Michael Suda for the first time.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
Would improve his call.
He's... putting... me... to...
(https://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28600000/mystery-science-theater-3000-mystery-science-theater-3000-28665889-500-389.png)
Center ice Brown logo looks like a 97-year old French whore's faded tattoo.
Quote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
This is a play on "Brown"? Are we supposed to intuit that and not wonder?
And did the announcer call him Maloney?
Cripe, there goes our chance to catch Quinnipiac on most shutouts in a season. It took, what 10 seconds of Brown PP? 1-0 Brown, 16 minutes in.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
This is a play on "Brown"? Are we supposed to intuit that and not wonder?
I'm not big on scatalogical humor. Typically I steer right for the misogyny.
Gotta know your lane.
Quote from: billhowardCripe, there goes our chance to catch Quinnipiac on most shutouts in a season. It took, what 10 seconds of Brown PP? 1-0 Brown, 16 minutes in.
The Astros have stolen our signals.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
This is a play on "Brown"? Are we supposed to intuit that and not wonder?
I'm not big on scatalogical humor. Typically I steer right for the misogyny. Gotta know your lane.
Speaking of scatalogical, the PBP says a Cornell shot caught Brown goalie Caron "right in the coconut." My bad, he meant the helmet.
Quote from: billhowardCripe, there goes our chance to catch Quinnipiac on most shutouts in a season. It took, what 10 seconds of Brown PP? 1-0 Brown, 16 minutes in.
Our kill has worked all year, so I'm not exactly complaining, but there's something to how we cover the point and the wings that just kind of bothers my brain. We're running a sort of triangle with an extra guy at the point, and that extra guy winds up running around more than I expect. I'm more used to a four person box.
I'm not saying we need to do anything differently. Just that our kill looks weird.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyESPN+ announcer sounds like head is in toilet.
This is a play on "Brown"? Are we supposed to intuit that and not wonder?
I'm not big on scatalogical humor. Typically I steer right for the misogyny. Gotta know your lane.
Speaking of scatalogical, the PBP says a Cornell shot caught Brown goalie Caron "right in the coconut." My bad, he meant the helmet.
I can't be the only one who thought of this (https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2020%2F01%2F4leslie-caron.jpg).
Just tuning in and see we're down 1-0. We're moving into "officially in a funk" territory
Quote from: scoop85Just tuning in and see we're down 1-0. We're moving into "officially in a funk" territory
We're doing that thing where we play like shit against shit opponents. Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown. Meanwhile, we played great against Q and well enough to tie Harvard.
So who knows?
Our PK hasn't been as strong lately. We've now given up a PP goal in three straight games.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Just tuning in and see we're down 1-0. We're moving into "officially in a funk" territory
We're doing that thing where we play like shit against shit opponents. Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown. Meanwhile, we played great against Q and well enough to tie Harvard.
So who knows?
Indeed. The three teams immediately preceding the pandemic were good at beating down bad opponents. This year, it has really only happened with Yale, SLU, and the Capital District teams.
This PBP guy is something else. He learned the guys names but watching this game feels like death by PowerPoint.
Quote from: TrotskyThis PBP guy is something else. He learned the guys names but watching this game feels like death by PowerPoint.
Powerful words: The comparison has people feeling bad for Microsoft.
Up tempo favors us, our stickhandling is better. Step on it, guys.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Just tuning in and see we're down 1-0. We're moving into "officially in a funk" territory
We're doing that thing where we play like shit against shit opponents. Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown. Meanwhile, we played great against Q and well enough to tie Harvard.
So who knows?
As good as Syer and Flanagan seem to be, being without Schafer for now a month has to have some effect on performance. And I assume no Andreev again today? That certainly doesn't help things.
I keep expecting Ferguson.
Leave it to Brown to not have cameras.
Quote from: scoop85And I assume no Andreev again today? That certainly doesn't help things.
Andreev and Kovich still out.
I agree this is a totally different team with Andreev out there. He is the beating heart.
Quote from: TrotskyWe're doing that thing where we play like shit against shit opponents. Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown. Meanwhile, we played great against Q and well enough to tie Harvard. So who knows?
2, 3 years back, I mused that Cornell must lead the ECAC if not the country in hanging tough against the league's or nation's top teams and losing way too many to the bottom quartile. Statistics proved me wrong, but it still feels that way. Last 2-1/2 weeks we've failed to beat Princeton, Dartmouth and (so-far) Brown. Three of our four January wins were to the nation's 1- or 2-ranked teams (plus Yale).
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyWe're doing that thing where we play like shit against shit opponents. Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown. Meanwhile, we played great against Q and well enough to tie Harvard. So who knows?
2, 3 years back, I mused that Cornell must lead the ECAC if not the country in hanging tough against the league's or nation's top teams and losing way too many to the bottom quartile.
My intuition is this is one of those cognitive biases we all have. Certainly all fans believe this about their team. I made this chart (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_H2H_by_Standing.html) to test it.
Excellent pp.
Bupkis on the second Cornell PP, though all in Brown end except first 5 and last 2 seconds. So that's style sheet progress.
LOL Ben Tupker. Such a little ball of hate.
Quote from: TrotskyExcellent pp.
Funny, I came to post just the opposite. We had great puck possession, but other than Berard we seemed terrified to take a shot and instead looked for the perfect pass as if we were up against Shesterkin in net.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyExcellent pp.
Funny, I came to post just the opposite. We had great puck possession, but other than Berard we seemed terrified to take a shot and instead looked for the perfect pass as if we were up against Shesterkin in net.
I think of pps as as good as possession. If a lane doesn't open, that sucks, but if you hold and move the puck you are setting yourself up to exploit.
I did keep screaming to use Berard more. Dude is so lethal he can probably shoot it *through* a defender.
Holy shit how did that not score?
Caron the early favorite for Most Respected Opponent. He was very good in Ithaca, too. Boo.
Quote from: TrotskyHoly shit how did that not score?
That's about as wide open a net as you can have and not bury one
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyHoly shit how did that not score?
That's about as wide open a net as you can have and not bury one
Lucky to escape those last 14 seconds of the period on the PK.
You can see our guys are starting to grip the sticks too tight.
I don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
Quote from: TrotskyI don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
I don't think any of them stop Brown's goal once that pass got through.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyI don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
I don't think any of them stop Brown's goal once that pass got through.
Well, like I said. I don't want to be that guy.
LOL, Brown PBP is Very Disappointed in Mister Separate But Equal.
Against good teams they are patient and grind and take shots and crash the net. Against bad teams they try to stickhandle through traffic and it just doesn't work. They can't generate offense against bad teams because (without Andreev and Kovich, especially) they are trying to outplay opponents that they are better than but not enough better than that the edge is enough to win on skill alone. More shots, more bodies in front to clean them up. Make Brown work by taking adequate shots not perfect ones.
Quote from: ugarteAgainst bad teams they try to stickhandle through traffic and it just doesn't work.
Yea, it seems like Hero Syndrome whenever we fall behind a bad team. We get out of our system.
Jesus fuck, Caron did it again.
We have more trouble clearing space in front of the net than most Cornell teams. Trading muscle for speed is a trade I'm generally willing to make (and we're still very large), but it seems like the weaker teams we've struggled with win all those rebound battles and crowd the net front.
ok that was a good PP. no goals but a lot of good work.
Quote from: DafatoneWe have more trouble clearing space in front of the net than most Cornell teams. Trading muscle for speed is a trade I'm generally willing to make (and we're still very large), but it seems like the weaker teams we've struggled with win all those rebound battles and crowd the net front.
The way to fix that is stretch the opponent's defense with even
more speed. Think of those great Yale teams.
Quote from: ugarteok that was a good PP. no goals but a lot of good work.
We are slooooooooowly taking control of the game. But will we have enough time and a little luck?
NON-STOP FLIGHTS FROM PROVIDENCE TO PITTSBURGH!
My god, it's full of stars.
Combined shot totals may surpass attendance.
Shots this period Cornell 10-2.
Brown will hafta commit murder to get another penalty.
4 minutes to get 2 goals.
"Well, shit."
-- Martha Washington
Time to worry about getting a first-round bye, not just avoiding Quinnipiac until the ECAC title game.
Bye bye ezac
Plenty of time...
Well, the obsessing over Pairwise is a thing of the past.
Covid protocol: The PBP mic should not just be sanitized, it should probably be discarded.
Current USCHO scoring on the goal: Betts (Betts, Ertel)
Dreadful stretch of games.
Well if we don't get Schafer back we might as well forget it. We could easily drop out of the top 4.
Ben Syer throws the clipboard. I love the Oldies.
Suboptimal.
Brown 2, Cornell 1, be a long bus ride home.
Really going to call roughing at that point in the game for anything short of murder? Lame.
Quote from: billhowardBrown 2, Cornell 1, be a long bus ride home.
Just what I was thinking.
glad they showed up for the last 3 minutes i guess
Quote from: DafatoneReally going to call roughing at that point in the game for anything short of murder? Lame.
if you shove a guy into the ref, the ref's going to whistle you
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: DafatoneReally going to call roughing at that point in the game for anything short of murder? Lame.
if you shove a guy into the ref, the ref's going to whistle you
Particularly if the guy just broke his hand.
this team has forgotton how to score.. the wide open shots are not going in and pretty much mostly tough goals now..
still lose on a PP and the Dman falling down creating a breakaway.
would love to see a real angle on the goal that was reviewed.. it was on the line when we could see it from center ice, probably had no view at all from above on goal cam.
other than a burst against Princ in last 3 min we can get anything to go in. we went from a high scoring team to a low scoring team pretty fast the last 30+ days
Sadly the recent stretch of play certainly couldn't be helping Schafer in his recovery.
Quote from: ugarteAgainst good teams they are patient and grind and take shots and crash the net. Against bad teams they try to stickhandle through traffic and it just doesn't work. They can't generate offense against bad teams because (without Andreev and Kovich, especially) they are trying to outplay opponents that they are better than but not enough better than that the edge is enough to win on skill alone. More shots, more bodies in front to clean them up. Make Brown work by taking adequate shots not perfect ones.
This-a, this-a, this! The cute passes and the reluctance to just put the fucking puck on net are killing me.
Shots in the third were 17-3.
See, I thought we tried to put the puck on net plenty of times. Must've been about a thousand blocked shots.
We need more movement away from the puck in the offensive zone. Our PP is the three umbrella players passing back and forth and nothing from the players down low. More crisscrossing, skating the puck, and player movement might shake some things free. We possessed the puck well on the PP, but ultimately, all our shots came from the outside wings and got blocked.
Quote from: TrotskyI don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
Wild take. The goaltending is the only thing somewhat promising about Cornell's performance the last few weeks. Almost no playmaking ability outside of the top 4 or 5 guys, PP can't get set up in the other team's zone, PK gives up way too much space and other teams have learned how to take advantage.
With that said, Shane looked like a deer in the headlights on the breakaway that led to the second Brown goal. How do you give up that much space between the legs?
If there is one key difference between this year's team and prior years', it's the depth. In prior years Cornell could roll three or four lines that could punish opponents that were worn down. This year, opponents can match up their shutdown defenders against the first line, while Cornell's other lines are just biding time until Stienburg is rested enough to get back on the ice.
The future of the program may very well be bright, but this year's team is going nowhere. I don't think the voters who keep ranking Cornell in the top 15 have seen them play this year.
Quote from: DafatoneSee, I thought we tried to put the puck on net plenty of times. Must've been about a thousand blocked shots.
In the third, we started to put the puck on net a bit better. Where was that in the first and second?
So many times I see the chance for a sneaky backhand; instead, the player slows down, gives the defender time to get in front, and we end up with another blocked shot. Or worse, a bad pass or another braindead slappah into somebody's ankles.
Rego had a great backhand sometime in the second; one of those is going to go in eventually. In a game like this one was, anything that creates any bit of chaos is the right thing to do.
Quote from: upprdeckthis team has forgotton how to score.. the wide open shots are not going in and pretty much mostly tough goals now..
still lose on a PP and the Dman falling down creating a breakaway.
would love to see a real angle on the goal that was reviewed.. it was on the line when we could see it from center ice, probably had no view at all from above on goal cam.
other than a burst against Princ in last 3 min we can get anything to go in. we went from a high scoring team to a low scoring team pretty fast the last 30+ days
IIRC, Cornell the second highest shooting percentage in the country through the first half of the season. That is a sign that you've been very lucky. It also included three (at the time) 3v3 goals. Cornell's scoring has regressed to the mean.
Quote from: BearLoverIf there is one key difference between this year's team and prior years', it's the depth. In prior years Cornell could roll three or four lines that could punish opponents that were worn down. This year, opponents can match up their shutdown defenders against the first line, while Cornell's other lines are just biding time until Stienburg is rested enough to get back on the ice.
Up until the last couple games I'd say we were rolling multiple dangerous lines. In the last couple games they all collapsed, especially the Stienburg line.
Until the last three games I'd have said the Tupker line was actually our most ferocious in terms of wearing the other team down. But they've disappeared.
Somebody check the Pizza Hut.
It's easy to point at one injured guy and say he makes all the difference, but Andreev fills that sparkplug role. I bet we'd look more lively with him.
Also, hard to evaluate what the absence of Coach does to the team, both from a strategy standpoint and overall morale.
I was guessing game attendance would either be 250, or 250 from Brown and 250 Cornell fans. From the box score, attendance 262: https://brownbears.com/boxscore.aspx?path=mhockey&id=11193
Maybe 12 Brown fans came?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyI don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
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With that said, Shane looked like a deer in the headlights on the breakaway that led to the second Brown goal. How do you give up that much space between the legs?
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Shane looked like he'd never practiced defending 1-on-1. The first goal wasn't his fault. Several of our past goalies could have stopped the second goal.
Quote from: TrotskyCenter ice Brown logo looks like a 97-year old French whore's faded tattoo.
I remember her! You were there around 1986, right?
We play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
Quote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
You know Groundhog Day is Feb. 2, right?
Quote from: WederQuote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
You know Groundhog Day is Feb. 2, right?
and Punxsutauney Phil had bad news.
Quote from: nshapiroQuote from: WederQuote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
You know Groundhog Day is Feb. 2, right?
and Punxsutauney Phil had bad news.
A matter of perspective and preference. Phil provides news: you interpret it and act upon it how you wish.
I, for one, welcome winter as the season of skiing, hockey, and of beautiful snow. So too it is the season of the truly great contrast—at least for those fortunate to have insides to go to—that reminds you that you're alive: cold outside, warm inside. Living through four seasons each year is best for the soul, and of those four seasons I anticipate winter the most.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: nshapiroQuote from: WederQuote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
You know Groundhog Day is Feb. 2, right?
and Punxsutauney Phil had bad news.
A matter of perspective and preference. Phil provides news: you interpret it and act upon it how you wish.
I, for one, welcome winter as the season of skiing, hockey, and of beautiful snow. So too it is the season of the truly great contrast—at least for those fortunate to have insides to go to—that reminds you that you're alive: cold outside, warm inside. Living through four seasons each year is best for the soul, and of those four seasons I anticipate winter the most.
Winter is one of the four seasons that I hate the most
Quote from: nshapiroWinter is one of the four seasons that I hate the most
Ah, you must subscribe to the midwestern 11-season schema. A devotee of mud season, perhaps?
winter
fool's spring
second winter
spring of deception
third winter
mud season
actual spring
summer
false fall
second summer (1 week)
actual fall
I detest "fool's spring," a.k.a. January thaw. My favorite is third winter, i.e., that time of the year when everyone always seems to have forgotten that the big snowstorms come in March. Hockey playoffs and fewer idiots on the slopes—what could be better?
On the bright side, we must be making North Dakota grind its collective teeth.
Quote from: TrotskyStill no Mike.
And news that it will be a while longer.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/02/02_Cornell-Coach-Schafer-to-.php
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyStill no Mike.
And news that it will be a while longer.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/02/02_Cornell-Coach-Schafer-to-.php
So in a strange way, COVID saved his life.
Quote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
They say we're young and we don't know. We won't find out until we grow.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: nshapiroQuote from: WederQuote from: billhowardWe play that rarest of games, midweek Tuesday and on February 1. I woke up thinking we'd be back in Providence playing it again, still Feb. 1. So, it could be worse.
You know Groundhog Day is Feb. 2, right?
and Punxsutauney Phil had bad news.
A matter of perspective and preference. Phil provides news: you interpret it and act upon it how you wish.
I, for one, welcome winter as the season of skiing, hockey, and of beautiful snow. So too it is the season of the truly great contrast—at least for those fortunate to have insides to go to—that reminds you that you're alive: cold outside, warm inside. Living through four seasons each year is best for the soul, and of those four seasons I anticipate winter the most.
greetings from 2 season florida - hot and humid, not so humid. or hurricane season, prepping for hurricane season. I miss autumn and apple orchards. When i lived in ithaca I was baking apple something from september - february.
for those of you up north ... Enjoy the snow (I miss how pretty it is, not driving in it) and be safe on the roads. The Lakewood (Colorado) PD have some winter weather advise.
https://twitter.com/LakewoodPDCO/status/1488219696591781890?s=20&t=iSQp3GFk_m1OYcLZjHfJUQ
https://twitter.com/LakewoodPDCO/status/1485765350260101121?s=20&t=jGD9B6wYJL-rtaaNmZCtJg
Rita, we still miss the Everblades tournament in Estero, all those years played while we had a free place to stay with the in-laws in Marco Island an hour south. Ran into a cheerful Richie Moran there 6, 7 years ago.
Quote from: TrotskyI don't want to be That Guy, but these are the games that Galajda, Iles, McKee, Scrivens, and Gillam won 1-0.
It looks like Ryan Bischel has replaced Galajda as the starting goalie at Notre Dame, for now at least.