Figured I'd try and keep it going.
Remember this game is 6pm CT. That's 7pm EST for those that need help with time zones. You know who you are.::bolt::
Quote from: Jim HylaFigured I'd try and keep it going.
Remember this game is 6pm CT. That's 7pm EST for those that need help with time zones. You know who you are.::bolt::
Yeah, you are now doing this the rest of the year. ::banana::
So, what's the over/under on who starts in goal for game 2?
Should be Shane again. He actually played well tonight and was a big reason North Dakota didn't score more goals
he played well enough. the first goal was a snipe.. another was weak D letting the kid come in thru half the team and he was surprised
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaFigured I'd try and keep it going.
Remember this game is 6pm CT. That's 7pm EST for those that need help with time zones. You know who you are.::bolt::
Yeah, you are now doing this the rest of the year. ::banana::
Gladly if it means we never lose again. I'll even start the games I'm going to.
NDak split with Q, our only common opponent...so does that mean that a win tonight and a split with Q (or a tie tonight and a winning record against Q) means that our pairwise comparison with NDak goes in our favor?
Quote from: upprdeckhe played well enough. the first goal was a snipe.. another was weak D letting the kid come in thru half the team and he was surprised
On the first goal, he got hung out to dry due to a poorly timed substitution of the back two during the 4 on 4. He looked surprised, as you suggest, on the second goal. It was the third that was the snipe.
All I can say about Shane is he played better than the NoDak goalie last night.
He did seem to follow the puck well, and not freak out. There were a few cases where I thought he was out of position. But I know nothing.
When he is on his game I think Howe is the best of the three, but he has been ill or injured and not looked great lately.
The NoDak forum is all over their goalie. Apparently he is a 5th year senior transfer with great numbers at Bemidji last year, but has one of the lowest save percentages in the nation this year.
They feel if he plays again tonight, the coaches must have zero faith in their backups.
NoDak starting a different goalie tonight.
My intuition is we are going to get beaten pretty badly tonight, say 4-1 or 5-2. But even if so, a great trip to NoDak.
One shift at a time, lads.
No Schafer behind the bench tonight
Props to the Twin Line all weekend. Cornell playing with great confidence after that first 5 minute spurt by the greenies.
Stay outta the box.
I think that was deliberate, I would like to see head hunting, 5 + GM.
Quote from: TrotskyI think that was deliberate, I would like to see dead hunting, 5 + GM.
Gotta be, right?
I mean who knows, but yeah.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyI think that was deliberate, I would like to see dead hunting, 5 + GM.
Gotta be, right?
I mean who knows, but yeah.
NoDak announcer thinks it made contact with shoulder but I don't see that. Their announcers have been very fair though.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyI think that was deliberate, I would like to see dead hunting, 5 + GM.
Gotta be, right?
I mean who knows, but yeah.
NoDak announcer thinks it made contact with shoulder but I don't see that. Their announcers have been very fair though.
I think initial contact with the shoulder plus a follow-through elbow to the head should still be five.
Bah.
Holy hell that was dangerous.
Other than giving up a shortie, as bad a pp as you can have.
I think NoDak knew they got away with one there and were psyched.
It's a long game and we need to be steady.
Nice look by Rego. We are playing much better than last night. NoDak is better, but it's not a chasm.
Ertel's puck control and playmaking are reminding me of Cam Donaldson.
interesting that a marginal trip last night earns 5 but a blantant high shot gets 2.. not even sure thats a real penalty to call.. roughing elbowing perhaps but i accidentally hit him in the head?
Quote from: upprdeckinteresting that a marginal trip last night earns 5 but a blantant high shot gets 2.. not even sure thats a real penalty to call.. roughing elbowing perhaps but i accidentally hit him in the head?
I think you only get the big mins for targetting?
STAY OUTTA THE BOX
Well that's as soft a penalty as you're going to see unless I missed something.
We gotta watch that, we've already taken a penalty for jumping on face offs.
Man. North Dakota teevee commercials are white.
Listening now to WHCU (sorry, not gonna pay $16.95 for a single game pass::whistle::) Our play by play guy is very good. Surprised there is no color guy.
Quote from: djk26Listening now to WHCU (sorry, not gonna pay $16.95 for a single game pass::whistle::) Our play by play guy is very good. Surprised there is no color guy.
I've been able to watch both games with that pass. It's good for any game that
starts within a 24-hour window of the time of purchase. Since I purchased after 8, I've been able to see the earlier game today.
Quote from: TrotskyMan. North Dakota teevee commercials are white.
I had the same thought.
A return to Cornell hockey there in the final five minutes. MILLION ANTS!
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyMan. North Dakota teevee commercials are white.
I had the same thought.
Yup.
Although Ithaca-area local commercials aren't that much better (though they are better).
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: djk26Listening now to WHCU (sorry, not gonna pay $16.95 for a single game pass::whistle::) Our play by play guy is very good. Surprised there is no color guy.
I've been able to watch both games with that pass. It's good for any game that starts within a 24-hour window of the time of purchase. Since I purchased after 8, I've been able to see the earlier game today.
Well, bah, the NCHC got an extra $8 or so out of me.
Holy shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Quote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
Not Chechnya you fucking rube!
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
I meant 87% white.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
Each one has 2 more senators than I do in a district with a similar population.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
Each one has 2 more senators than I do in a district with a similar population.
Yeah but the Senate protects white supremacy so cool cool cool.
Quote from: TrotskyNot Chechnya you fucking rube!
Czechia. Another term for Czech Republic.
Quote from: ACMQuote from: TrotskyNot Chechnya you fucking rube!
Czechia. Another term for Czech Republic.
I know, Arthur. I know. This guy keeps making him from the Caucuses.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
I meant 87% white.
Ah, fair. North Dakota gonna North Dakota. We're a paragon of diversity in South Dakota at 84%.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
Each one has 2 more senators than I do in a district with a similar population.
Yeah but you get those cool "Taxation Without Representation" license plates so isn't it really a wash?
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
I meant 87% white.
Ah, fair. North Dakota gonna North Dakota. We're a paragon of diversity in South Dakota at 84%.
Well, more south so you need the melanin for the sun.
Quote from: TrotskyErtel's puck control and playmaking are reminding me of Cam Donaldson.
And O'Leary reminds me quite a bit of Noah Bauld. He blew right by Sanderson.
Announcer thinks it should be icing when O'Leary knocked a puck down ice and was the only player chasing it.
Locke!!!!
Great Cornell pressure since the Locke goal.
NoDak empty net.
OUTSTANDING GAME AND WEEKEND!
feeling better about the losses in hoops and wrestling right now
WOW. All this without Steinberg and Berard? A couple of off nights for UND, I guess, but holy cow, very impressive.
"Some of the fans not waiting around for the end of this one...looking to beat that notorious Grand Forks, North Dakota traffic."
Jason Weinstein (I looked up his name since referring to him as "our play by play guy") for the WIN. ::cheer::
That's a 3 game win streak at the vomitorium.
I believe we also even the all-time series with North Dakota Fighting .
I feel good.
Quote from: djk26WOW. All this without Steinberg and Berard? A couple of off nights for UND, I guess, but holy cow, very impressive.
"Some of the fans not waiting around for the end of this one...looking to beat that notorious Grand Forks, North Dakota traffic."
Jason Weinstein (I looked up his name since referring to him as "our play by play guy") for the WIN. ::cheer::
Do we get extra points in the pwr for sweeping those Nodak characters in Grand Forks without 2 of our top five scorers and one game without our head coach?
14th in the pairwise. 1st in kicking North Dakota's ass this weekend.
Excellent series. North Dakota did outshoot us by a non-trivial amount, but way to exploit our chances and get the wins.
The guys are going to have a very nice trip home. ::cheer::
cornell jumps to 14 in the pairwise; nodak falls to 11. really hoping we don't let up back in conference play. also really like the way the team is playing strong third periods.
Quote from: TrotskyExcellent series. North Dakota did outshoot us by a non-trivial amount, but way to exploit our chances and get the wins.
The guys are going to have a very nice trip home. ::cheer::
Pretty damn good for a "rebuilding" year, when about half the team is playing its first year of college hockey.
Watching Shane's composure and apparent ability, he must REALLY suck in practice to have been riding the pine for so long.
Kidding aside he was terrific all weekend, and was especially good tonight. Not sure if it was lightning in the bottle, but I assume he'll be in the pipes in New Haven on Friday.
DON'T MIND IF I DO https://twitter.com/CornellVideo/status/1480011237366935554
really like that they added some good saves (both ways) into the highlights
Quote from: ugartereally like that they added some good saves (both ways) into the highlights
Yes. They seem also to be learning that 16 seconds per goal does not make for much of a highlight reel.
Also props for getting it posted so quickly.
what a weekend! great set of games.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaFigured I'd try and keep it going.
Remember this game is 6pm CT. That's 7pm EST for those that need help with time zones. You know who you are.::bolt::
Yeah, you are now doing this the rest of the year. ::banana::
Gladly if it means we never lose again. I'll even start the games I'm going to.
You are never not doing this again. Ever.
Is Coach Mike ok?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyExcellent series. North Dakota did outshoot us by a non-trivial amount, but way to exploit our chances and get the wins.
The guys are going to have a very nice trip home. ::cheer::
Pretty damn good for a "rebuilding" year, when about half the team is playing its first year of college hockey.
Yeah, it's fucking insane they were able to put this weekend together. Now just take care of business in conference, and BEAT Q (https://d3bdodgok16pxc.cloudfront.net/images/Article-3-1_200724_114143.gif?mtime=20200724114143&focal=none).
Well, crap..
Now we're never getting invited to any western barns ever again!
Quote from: RobbWell, crap..
Now we're never getting invited to any western barns ever again!
ASU says come back any time.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RobbWell, crap..
Now we're never getting invited to any western barns ever again!
ASU says come back any time.
+1
This makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
Quote from: billhowardThis makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
We led 2-1 after 1.
Quote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardThis makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
We led 2-1 after 1.
Still a comeback, though. NoDak scored first (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220108.pdf).
Key to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
No, I know that -- if I had my way ND, SD, NE, MT, WY, ID would all be combined.
It's not that they're a Rotten Borough. It's the type of Rotten Borough they are that's so galling (and anti-democratic).
Can I suggest less politics and more hockey? Here, let me help. NoDak's version of highlights:
https://youtu.be/bTtrKRYhEc4
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardThis makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
We led 2-1 after 1.
Still a comeback, though. NoDak scored first (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220108.pdf).
Key to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
It also helped that unlike in the ECAC, Cornell didn't need to go a man down after the miss. In the NCHC, the coach has the option to decline the penalty shot and take the standard minor.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
Barely. South Dakota has the fewest Jews of any state.
Quote from: IcebergNo Schafer behind the bench tonight
The Sun (https://cornellsun.com/2022/01/08/3-1-victory-gives-no-14-cornell-sweep-over-no-5-north-dakota/) says
QuoteSchafer was out with illness on Saturday night, but with Associate Head Coach Ben Syer behind the bench, the Red managed to prevent North Dakota from coming back.
Cornell victories in road games against top 5 non-ECAC opponents:
03/22/1986 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/1986/box19860322.pdf) Denver
11/25/2001 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2002/box20011125.pdf) BU
01/07/2022 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220107.pdf) North Dakota
01/08/2022 (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220108.pdf) North Dakota
That's all I can find, ever. But my records for rankings are very spotty prior to the 90s.
LGR
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardThis makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
We led 2-1 after 1.
Still a comeback, though. NoDak scored first (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220108.pdf).
Key to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
"I've been here for years."
No, I'm still saying that bill is stretching the definition of "amazing comeback" if we have 58 minutes to erase a substantial ... *cough* one goal deficit. Let's not fool ourselves.
I watched that penalty shot 6 times, and I still don't know what the shooter was trying. If he wanted to draw Shane to the far post, and poke it back stick side, it just wasn't a good move. Great job by Shane to stay square and not cheat to cover the post. Caught it with the stick and the pad. Good unpanicked approach.
Quote from: RichHLet's not fool ourselves.
You get through the day your way, I'll get through mine.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLGkCrTMA0VOJW-R28rhRR6ZE8Yy5jsts87g&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
If you think that's low, Wyoming's under 600,000.
I meant 87% white.
Bah, that's nothing. Here in Vermont we're at 640k and ...94%
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
+1 (or should it be +10 for the minyan?)
Quote from: RichHI watched that penalty shot 6 times, and I still don't know what the shooter was trying. If he wanted to draw Shane to the far post, and poke it back stick side, it just wasn't a good move. Great job by Shane to stay square and not cheat to cover the post. Caught it with the stick and the pad. Good unpanicked approach.
I think it's what you thought or close to it. To me it looked he was trying to drag the puck so that his body got out in front to try to get the goalie to maintain positioning relative more to the shooter's body than the puck and shooter could chip it over the goalie's trailing leg because the goalie's center had moved too far. I probably described that horribly.
The important thing is I think the sweep retroactively makes Cornell 2020 national Champs. :-)
Siouxsports.com not responding this morning.
For those who missed the game last night there is a condensed game video here. (https://www.nchc.tv/videos/6284) No subscription is needed to watch this. I had to use MS Edge rather than Chrome to watch this on my PC. It is also available on the ROKU and Firestick apps.::dribble::
The Friday night game is here. (https://www.nchc.tv/videos/6273)::cheer::
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardThis makes up for Cornell giving up the four unanswered goals at Clarkson. Cornell amazing comebacks, twice, at North Dakota.
We led 2-1 after 1.
Still a comeback, though. NoDak scored first (http://tbrw.info/seasons/2022/box20220108.pdf).
Key to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
It also helped that unlike in the ECAC, Cornell didn't need to go a man down after the miss. In the NCHC, the coach has the option to decline the penalty shot and take the standard minor.
???
The option is standard across the NCAA:
Rule 25 - Penalty Shot/Optional Minor Penalty
25.1 Penalty Shot/Optional Minor Penalty - When any infraction of the
rules calls for a penalty shot not involving a major, disqualification or
misconduct penalty, the non-offending team shall be given the option
of accepting the penalty shot or having a minor penalty assessed to the
offending player. If, however, a major, disqualification or misconduct
penalty is incurred with the penalty shot, the shot shall be awarded and the
penalty for the prescribed infraction shall be assessed.
Has anybody seen a case where the coach turned it down?
Just wanted to say good morning. What a glorious morning it is.
(https://c.tenor.com/Qa87IfyIGgEAAAAC/west-wing.gif)
From the Grand Forks Herald (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/cornell-finishes-rare-two-game-sweep-in-ralph-engelstad-arena)
QuoteCornell played the game without head coach Mike Schafer, who stayed back at the hotel because he was "under the weather." Associate coach Ben Syer served as acting head coach. He's now 8-0-4 in his career as acting head coach.
And adding from CornellBigRed (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/1/8/mens-ice-hockey-14-mens-hockey-completes-sweep-of-5-north-dakota-3-1.aspx)
QuoteWhile the victory officially goes down as the 492nd in the career of Mike Schafer '86, the Jay R. Bloom '77 Head Coach of Men's Hockey, Schafer was not present at the rink due to illness. Associate Head Coach Ben Syer improved to 8-0-4 as an acting head coach in his career, with all but one of those games coming in his 10-plus years at Cornell.
Quote from: TrotskyHas anybody seen a case where the coach turned it down?
i wish we could have back in 91 at the garden.
Quote from: upprdeckQuote from: TrotskyHas anybody seen a case where the coach turned it down?
i wish we could have back in 91 at the garden.
Lemon-tation.
Quote from: djk26Listening now to WHCU (sorry, not gonna pay $16.95 for a single game pass::whistle::) Our play by play guy is very good. Surprised there is no color guy.
Yep. He does a good job.
Still not, 2 hours later. Cmon, man... I want the shadenfreud!
Nice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekened. I will say it's nice to be able to read newspaper articles about our games with quotes from coaches/players on both sides. I give the Grand Forks Herald credit for that. As far as I know, for example, there were no newspaper stories about our games last week at Arizona State. The Cornell Sun stories never have quotes from the opposing coaches and are often just written from watching the games on livestream. Here in New Haven, where I live, the New Haven paper doesn't both covering most of the Yale or Quinnipiac home games in person any more, either.
Quote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekened. I will say it's nice to be able to read newspaper articles about our games with quotes from coaches/players on both sides. I give the Grand Forks Herald credit for that. As far as I know, for example, there were no newspaper stories about our games last week at Arizona State. The Cornell Sun stories never have quotes from the opposing coaches and are often just written from watching the games on livestream. Here in New Haven, where I live, the New Haven paper doesn't both covering most of the Yale or Quinnipiac home games in person any more, either.
One of the interesting things about living in a very small place (population-wise) is the local investment in what's going on.
Largely cause there isn't anything else going on.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioSiouxsports.com not responding this morning.
The posters voted to shut it down out of embarrassment over this weekend.
How are you able to read the articles in the Grand Forks paper? Mine are redacted like a CIA document.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: Al DeFlorioSiouxsports.com not responding this morning.
The posters voted to shut it down out of embarrassment over this weekend.
Please tell me this is actually a thing.
Quote from: TimVHow are you able to read the articles in the Grand Forks paper? Mine are redacted like a CIA document.
I got the impression I was able to read a limited number of articles for free. I read the three stories from this weekend's games without any trouble.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekened. I will say it's nice to be able to read newspaper articles about our games with quotes from coaches/players on both sides. I give the Grand Forks Herald credit for that. As far as I know, for example, there were no newspaper stories about our games last week at Arizona State. The Cornell Sun stories never have quotes from the opposing coaches and are often just written from watching the games on livestream. Here in New Haven, where I live, the New Haven paper doesn't both covering most of the Yale or Quinnipiac home games in person any more, either.
One of the interesting things about living in a very small place (population-wise) is the local investment in what's going on.
Largely cause there isn't anything else going on.
Which makes it even more galling that the Ithaca Journal isn't more like the Grand Forks Herald. But the local Gannett papers (including mine) are basically used to publish USA Today articles on a more regional basis.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekened. I will say it's nice to be able to read newspaper articles about our games with quotes from coaches/players on both sides. I give the Grand Forks Herald credit for that. As far as I know, for example, there were no newspaper stories about our games last week at Arizona State. The Cornell Sun stories never have quotes from the opposing coaches and are often just written from watching the games on livestream. Here in New Haven, where I live, the New Haven paper doesn't both covering most of the Yale or Quinnipiac home games in person any more, either.
One of the interesting things about living in a very small place (population-wise) is the local investment in what's going on.
Largely cause there isn't anything else going on.
Seems to me that NoDak hockey is the closest the state has to a professional sports team and
everybody cares.
Quote from: TimVHow are you able to read the articles in the Grand Forks paper? Mine are redacted like a CIA document.
"Burn after reading."
To access the articles in the GFH, I just needed to answer the requisite survey questions about which underwear brand I may consider buying in the next three months (no, seriously).
While we're on the subject of the media, I want to comment on the awesome production by the Midco crew. The camerawork, multiple replay angles, PBP and color work were NHL level quality. I think the PBP guy was the best I've heard on a college hockey telecast, and he's surely destined for bigger things. I was especially impressed that he reacted with genuine excitement when either team scored. The color guy (who's a former UND goalie) was insightful and balanced; his only glaring error was thinking Psenicka scored his goal from the blue line rather than on the tip-in, but he corrected himself during the highlight review at the end of the period. Both announcers were even-handed in their analysis, so much so that a poster on the UND forum (before it crashed) said something to the effect, "does anyone else think they give too much praise to the other team?"
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekened. I will say it's nice to be able to read newspaper articles about our games with quotes from coaches/players on both sides. I give the Grand Forks Herald credit for that. As far as I know, for example, there were no newspaper stories about our games last week at Arizona State. The Cornell Sun stories never have quotes from the opposing coaches and are often just written from watching the games on livestream. Here in New Haven, where I live, the New Haven paper doesn't both covering most of the Yale or Quinnipiac home games in person any more, either.
One of the interesting things about living in a very small place (population-wise) is the local investment in what's going on.
Largely cause there isn't anything else going on.
Seems to me that NoDak hockey is the closest the state has to a professional sports team and everybody cares.
North Dakota State football has won 9 of the last 11 FCS championships and has produced two first round QB draft choices in the last few years.
Quote from: scoop85To access the articles in the GFH, I just needed to answer the requisite survey questions about which underwear brand I may consider buying in the next three months (no, seriously).
While we're not he subject of the media, I want to comment on the awesome production by the Midco crew. The camerawork, multiple replay angles, PBP and color work were NHL level quality. I think the PBP guy was the best I've heard on a college hockey telecast, and he's surely destined for bigger things. I was especially impressed that he reacted with genuine excitement when either team scored. The color guy (who's a former UND goalie) was insightful and balanced; his only glaring error was thinking Psenicka scored his goal from the blue line rather than on the tip-in, but he corrected himself during the highlight review at the end of the period. Both announcers were even-handed in their analysis, so much so that a poster on the UND forum (before it crashed) said something to the effect, "does anyone else think they give too much praise to the other team?"
Agreed, they were excellent. The only bad thing about the experience was the dumb-and-dumber rink noise, but that's not Midco.
A few observations from the weekend:
— eight periods is a small sample size, but Shane more than held his own against two good offensive teams, and was especially good last night. Loved his glove hand, and even the color guy seemed surprised that UND kept testing it late in the game. Sidebar: Before last night, when he gave up 4 goals in a 5-4 OT win over Penn State, Galajda had a 1.74 GAA and a .930 save percentage this year at Notre Dame.
—- while there were a few scary moments with us being unable to clear our zone (especially last night when UND pulled the goalie), I thought our defensive structure was terrific, and we did a phenomenal job blocking shots.
—- Given how depleted we were up front, it was great to see guys like Ertel, O'Leary and Kovich step into the breech. O'Leary blew by Sanderson on last night's breakaway; too bad he couldn't finish it. Ertel really seems to have stepped-up his game, and we're beginning to see why he was a 3rd round NHL draft choice.
— Andreev I thought was excellent this weekend, and I imagine a number of NHL teams will be targeting him as a free agent.
—- Among the incoming freshman I had no idea what Psenicka would bring to the table, as he didn't have much of a track record in the USHL. But he has been a terrific offensive force, especially as a net-front presence scoring on tip-ins and screening the goaltender. I think he's our best guy in that role since Joe Devin a decade ago.
—- Hopefully we'll be looking back on Friday's comeback as the springboard to a great 2nd half of the season. After the Clarkson debacle and the awful weekend as ASU, another loss Friday could have sent the season into a downward spiral. Now the team has to build on this weekend and not slip-up against weak Yale and Brown teams next week. I would expect that since Brown took us to OT in Ithaca the coaches will be reminding the players of that to avoid a letdown.
Quote from: TrotskyAgreed, they were excellent. The only bad thing about the experience was the dumb-and-dumber rink noise, but that's not Midco.
What I noticed was the sound of sticks on the ice and how beautiful that was when the teams were skating back and forth. At times the flow of these games bordered on a manufactured bliss that I seldom feel when rooting for Cornell.
I think it was the expectation that there was no expectation. Cornell could go to ND's house and lose without shame. The game was, for me, strangely enjoyable.
It won't likely be that way for me for the rest of the season. My brain will be holding the stick too tightly to enjoy the hockey itself. Glad the team made this trip on many levels.
my highlight of the weekend was an offense that was willing to plant near / crash the crease to take advantage of rebounds and loose pucks. I always think the Schafer offense - because it is too consistent to not be a coaching philosophy - is too reliant on looking for *the perfect shot* and endless cycling instead of looking for GOOD shots and second chances.
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04Just wanted to say good morning. What a glorious morning it is.
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Completely off topic here, but I saw the news story on your haunted house.
Quote from: ugartemy highlight of the weekend was an offense that was willing to plant near / crash the crease to take advantage of rebounds and loose pucks. I always think the Schafer offense - because it is too consistent to not be a coaching philosophy - is too reliant on looking for *the perfect shot* and endless cycling instead of looking for GOOD shots and second chances.
All season, I've thought this team gets pushed around more than the usual Cornell teams. We'd generate rebounds but be unable to put them away. I don't know if it was a change on our end or something on North Dakota's, but we stood firm in the crease this weekend.
Also, it was funny listening to North Dakota's announcers talking about how we're a defense-first, win 2-1 team and then put up a graphic showing we're 4th in the country in goals per game.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: ugartemy highlight of the weekend was an offense that was willing to plant near / crash the crease to take advantage of rebounds and loose pucks. I always think the Schafer offense - because it is too consistent to not be a coaching philosophy - is too reliant on looking for *the perfect shot* and endless cycling instead of looking for GOOD shots and second chances.
All season, I've thought this team gets pushed around more than the usual Cornell teams. We'd generate rebounds but be unable to put them away. I don't know if it was a change on our end or something on North Dakota's, but we stood firm in the crease this weekend.
Also, it was funny listening to North Dakota's announcers talking about how we're a defense-first, win 2-1 team and then put up a graphic showing we're 4th in the country in goals per game.
Prolly a little skewed from the RPI score but still cool to see
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: ugartemy highlight of the weekend was an offense that was willing to plant near / crash the crease to take advantage of rebounds and loose pucks. I always think the Schafer offense - because it is too consistent to not be a coaching philosophy - is too reliant on looking for *the perfect shot* and endless cycling instead of looking for GOOD shots and second chances.
All season, I've thought this team gets pushed around more than the usual Cornell teams. We'd generate rebounds but be unable to put them away. I don't know if it was a change on our end or something on North Dakota's, but we stood firm in the crease this weekend.
Also, it was funny listening to North Dakota's announcers talking about how we're a defense-first, win 2-1 team and then put up a graphic showing we're 4th in the country in goals per game.
I still think the team is designed to win 2-1 games, though it hasn't played any through 15 regular-season games.
Quote from: cbuckserQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: ugartemy highlight of the weekend was an offense that was willing to plant near / crash the crease to take advantage of rebounds and loose pucks. I always think the Schafer offense - because it is too consistent to not be a coaching philosophy - is too reliant on looking for *the perfect shot* and endless cycling instead of looking for GOOD shots and second chances.
All season, I've thought this team gets pushed around more than the usual Cornell teams. We'd generate rebounds but be unable to put them away. I don't know if it was a change on our end or something on North Dakota's, but we stood firm in the crease this weekend.
Also, it was funny listening to North Dakota's announcers talking about how we're a defense-first, win 2-1 team and then put up a graphic showing we're 4th in the country in goals per game.
I still think the team is designed to win 2-1 games, though it hasn't played any through 15 regular-season games.
Syer speaks to that issue, I think (from chn article today)
"We just continued to stay with our process and get back to what Cornell hockey is," Syer said. "We still have 14 guys that never played college game before this year, we didn't want to give them too much."
"We were able to keep some of those shots outside," Syer said. "You know you're going to give up opportunities and chances. Our guys battled with sticks down on the ice."
"Getting pucks to the net, grabbing rebounds, bounces off the boards," Syer said. "Maybe this year we got away from classic Cornell, but certainly this weekend, it was classic Cornell. We knew we needed a net presence and needed to play hard around the paint."
Quote from: scoop85Among the incoming freshman I had no idea what Psenicka would bring to the table, as he didn't have much of a track record in the USHL. But he has been a terrific offensive force, especially as a net-front presence scoring on tip-ins and screening the goaltender. I think he's our best guy in that role since Joe Devin a decade ago.
I particularly liked his effort, shown from above in the highlights, where he reached way to his left and almost scored. Only a great save thwarted him.
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Quote from: French RageQuote from: Ben Rocky '04Just wanted to say good morning. What a glorious morning it is.
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Completely off topic here, but I saw the news story on your haunted house.
Truly did not expect that to take off like it did. Local story, thought it would be funny to do. Sigh
I would much rather be a 4-2 team than a 2-1 team. More room to recover from error.
Quote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekend.
Also, a homecoming of sorts for Ian Shane, who played for the NAHL Bismarck Bobcats. Must have been quite an adjustment for him, coming from Manhattan Beach, CA.
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Quote from: George64Quote from: dbilmesNice sidebar article (https://www.grandforksherald.com/fargos-cody-haiskanen-caps-off-ideal-weekend-for-cornell-in-sweep-of-und) on Cody Haiskanen's homecoming weekend.
Also, a homecoming of sorts for Ian Shane, who played for the NAHL Bismarck Bobcats. Must have been quite an adjustment for him, coming from Manhattan Beach, CA.
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The NoDak announcers went out of their way to mention Cody and Ian's ND connections and were highly complimentary.
Quote from: Jim HylaFrom the Grand Forks Herald (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/cornell-finishes-rare-two-game-sweep-in-ralph-engelstad-arena)
QuoteCornell played the game without head coach Mike Schafer, who stayed back at the hotel because he was "under the weather." Associate coach Ben Syer served as acting head coach. He's now 8-0-4 in his career as acting head coach.
Another snippet from the same article. It must be interesting to have the option of calling up a player on a week's notice.
QuoteUND could be without two forwards — Hain and Brendan Budy — for an extended period of time, leaving the Fighting Hawks with 13 healthy forwards on the roster.
Considering the second semester hasn't started yet, the Fighting Hawks could theoretically add a player this week, but Berry indicated that's a longshot.
"We did last year with Louis Jamernik," Berry said. "That was a great move there. He added right away to our group. If we do, it's got to be selective. It's got to be the right move and it's always tough taking a player from another organization halfway through the year. We haven't considered it as of now, but the semester hasn't started yet. It would have to be pretty quick. But right now, we haven't (talked about it)."
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: Jim HylaFrom the Grand Forks Herald (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/cornell-finishes-rare-two-game-sweep-in-ralph-engelstad-arena)
QuoteCornell played the game without head coach Mike Schafer, who stayed back at the hotel because he was "under the weather." Associate coach Ben Syer served as acting head coach. He's now 8-0-4 in his career as acting head coach.
Another snippet from the same article. It must be interesting to have the option of calling up a player on a week's notice.
QuoteUND could be without two forwards — Hain and Brendan Budy — for an extended period of time, leaving the Fighting Hawks with 13 healthy forwards on the roster.
Considering the second semester hasn't started yet, the Fighting Hawks could theoretically add a player this week, but Berry indicated that's a longshot.
"We did last year with Louis Jamernik," Berry said. "That was a great move there. He added right away to our group. If we do, it's got to be selective. It's got to be the right move and it's always tough taking a player from another organization halfway through the year. We haven't considered it as of now, but the semester hasn't started yet. It would have to be pretty quick. But right now, we haven't (talked about it)."
Don't they have to submit transcripts, letters of recommendation, meet requirements for their prospective majors, etc.? And do the admissions committees meet weekly at UND during winter break? Finally, there's deciding on courses, enrolling in them, getting books, and so on. Seems like an awful lot to get done in only a week.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: Jim HylaFrom the Grand Forks Herald (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/cornell-finishes-rare-two-game-sweep-in-ralph-engelstad-arena)
QuoteCornell played the game without head coach Mike Schafer, who stayed back at the hotel because he was "under the weather." Associate coach Ben Syer served as acting head coach. He's now 8-0-4 in his career as acting head coach.
Another snippet from the same article. It must be interesting to have the option of calling up a player on a week's notice.
QuoteUND could be without two forwards — Hain and Brendan Budy — for an extended period of time, leaving the Fighting Hawks with 13 healthy forwards on the roster.
Considering the second semester hasn't started yet, the Fighting Hawks could theoretically add a player this week, but Berry indicated that's a longshot.
"We did last year with Louis Jamernik," Berry said. "That was a great move there. He added right away to our group. If we do, it's got to be selective. It's got to be the right move and it's always tough taking a player from another organization halfway through the year. We haven't considered it as of now, but the semester hasn't started yet. It would have to be pretty quick. But right now, we haven't (talked about it)."
Don't they have to submit transcripts, letters of recommendation, meet requirements for their prospective majors, etc.? And do the admissions committees meet weekly at UND during winter break? Finally, there's deciding on courses, enrolling in them, getting books, and so on. Seems like an awful lot to get done in only a week.
Depends how good he is. There's no AI in the NCHC.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: SwampyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: Jim HylaFrom the Grand Forks Herald (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/cornell-finishes-rare-two-game-sweep-in-ralph-engelstad-arena)
QuoteCornell played the game without head coach Mike Schafer, who stayed back at the hotel because he was "under the weather." Associate coach Ben Syer served as acting head coach. He's now 8-0-4 in his career as acting head coach.
Another snippet from the same article. It must be interesting to have the option of calling up a player on a week's notice.
QuoteUND could be without two forwards — Hain and Brendan Budy — for an extended period of time, leaving the Fighting Hawks with 13 healthy forwards on the roster.
Considering the second semester hasn't started yet, the Fighting Hawks could theoretically add a player this week, but Berry indicated that's a longshot.
"We did last year with Louis Jamernik," Berry said. "That was a great move there. He added right away to our group. If we do, it's got to be selective. It's got to be the right move and it's always tough taking a player from another organization halfway through the year. We haven't considered it as of now, but the semester hasn't started yet. It would have to be pretty quick. But right now, we haven't (talked about it)."
Don't they have to submit transcripts, letters of recommendation, meet requirements for their prospective majors, etc.? And do the admissions committees meet weekly at UND during winter break? Finally, there's deciding on courses, enrolling in them, getting books, and so on. Seems like an awful lot to get done in only a week.
Depends how good he is. There's no AI in the NCHC.
The team undoubtedly has at least a few players who have been admitted to UND with the expectation of enrolling in the fall of 2022, quite possibly the entire freshman class. If they're playing at the junior level, having graduated from high school a year or two or three ago, they could enroll for the spring 2022 semester instead of waiting. Yes, classes start January 10 (https://und.edu/one-stop/academic-calendar/undergraduate.html#spring2022), but I'll bet the academic planning could be sorted out at some schools.
I saw on TV this morning that North Dakota currently has the second-highest per-capita COVID rate in the country, ranking only behind Tennessee. Given the number of skaters who tested positive over the past week at the US Figure Skating Championships in Nashville, I'm hoping that our men's hockey team doesn't suffer a similar fate. I was reading about how even though the figure skaters were in a bubble away from the arena, the hotel they were staying in was filled with unmasked guests they had to share a lobby and elevators with.
Quote from: dbilmesI saw on TV this morning that North Dakota currently has the second-highest per-capita COVID rate in the country, ranking only behind Tennessee. Given the number of skaters who tested positive over the past week at the US Figure Skating Championships in Nashville, I'm hoping that our men's hockey team doesn't suffer a similar fate. I was reading about how even though the figure skaters were in a bubble away from the arena, the hotel they were staying in was filled with unmasked guests they had to share a lobby and elevators with.
still unclear how many kids were sick with flu vs covid on the team over the break. hopefully they survive the next month until the peak is over and all he kids come back to class.
We beat UND without our top 2 scorers but also playing a goalie with almost no experience. we may not have high top end guys but we seem to have a pretty good cast of depth players. we see glimpses from almost all of them at times.
Quote from: upprdeckQuote from: dbilmesI saw on TV this morning that North Dakota currently has the second-highest per-capita COVID rate in the country, ranking only behind Tennessee. Given the number of skaters who tested positive over the past week at the US Figure Skating Championships in Nashville, I'm hoping that our men's hockey team doesn't suffer a similar fate. I was reading about how even though the figure skaters were in a bubble away from the arena, the hotel they were staying in was filled with unmasked guests they had to share a lobby and elevators with.
still unclear how many kids were sick with flu vs covid on the team over the break. hopefully they survive the next month until the peak is over and all he kids come back to class.
We beat UND without our top 2 scorers but also playing a goalie with almost no experience. we may not have high top end guys but we seem to have a pretty good cast of depth players. we see glimpses from almost all of them at times.
+1
And the thing about blue chippers is they tend to leave early. And I don't even know how the (make Enterprise transporter noises) Transfer Portal will affect that.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
Barely. South Dakota has the fewest Jews of any state.
FWIW, I have been working on my family tree since late in 1977. ND is the only state that does not appear currently among over 50,000 people, all Jewish or of Jewish ancestry besides for some non-Jews who married into my family. As far as SD is concerned, there is one distantly related family who lived in Vermillion, just across the Nebraska border. Although I am not certain, these people probably have one grandparent born Jewish.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHoly shit (https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/north-dakota-population).
Google the population for the Dakotas combined: enough for a minyan but the bagels are gonna be in the freezer case.
Barely. South Dakota has the fewest Jews of any state.
FWIW, I have been working on my family tree since late in 1977. ND is the only state that does not appear currently among over 50,000 people, all Jewish or of Jewish ancestry besides for some non-Jews who married into my family. As far as SD is concerned, there is one distantly related family who lived in Vermillion, just across the Nebraska border. Although I am not certain, these people probably have one grandparent born Jewish.
Vermillion is a really, really nice town. I lived there for a long time. If anyone's ever there, don't miss the National Music Museum. It's somehow a world-class collection of 17th century instruments.
After the first 10 minutes or so of the first period I can predict wide open or close-checking for the rest of the game quite well. Before the game . . . not so good. I am in awe of those who can [correctly] predict the character of a game BEFORE the puck is dropped!
Quote from: TrotskyKey to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
I knew there was a penalty shot in a game this year--so this is as good a place as any to post the question--certainly not worth a new thread.
What happens if a skater is taken down by the opposition while skating to an empty net with the puck? (Of course if you've got the puck and a empty net just shoot it from center ice or something, but I think it could happen that a skater is taken down while skating towards an empty net.) Is there a "penalty shot" on an empty net, or is a goal automatically awarded?
Quote from: djk26Quote from: TrotskyKey to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
I knew there was a penalty shot in a game this year--so this is as good a place as any to post the question--certainly not worth a new thread.
What happens if a skater is taken down by the opposition while skating to an empty net with the puck? (Of course if you've got the puck and a empty net just shoot it from center ice or something, but I think it could happen that a skater is taken down while skating towards an empty net.) Is there a "penalty shot" on an empty net, or is a goal automatically awarded?
That's an automatic goal.
Quote from: djk26Quote from: TrotskyKey to the whole thing was Shane's stop on the penalty shot (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Penalty_Shots.html).
I knew there was a penalty shot in a game this year--so this is as good a place as any to post the question--certainly not worth a new thread.
What happens if a skater is taken down by the opposition while skating to an empty net with the puck? (Of course if you've got the puck and a empty net just shoot it from center ice or something, but I think it could happen that a skater is taken down while skating towards an empty net.) Is there a "penalty shot" on an empty net, or is a goal automatically awarded?
The NHL rulebook:
" Rule 25 – Awarded Goals
25.1 Awarded Goal – A goal will be awarded to the attacking team when the opposing team has taken their goalkeeper off the ice and an attacking player has possession and control of the puck (or would have gained possession and control) in the neutral or attacking zone, without a defending player between himself and the opposing goal, and he is prevented from scoring as a result of an infraction committed by the defending team"
I leave looking at the NCAA rulebook to someone else right now, but I doubt it would be different.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: djk26I knew there was a penalty shot in a game this year--so this is as good a place as any to post the question--certainly not worth a new thread.
What happens if a skater is taken down by the opposition while skating to an empty net with the puck? (Of course if you've got the puck and a empty net just shoot it from center ice or something, but I think it could happen that a skater is taken down while skating towards an empty net.) Is there a "penalty shot" on an empty net, or is a goal automatically awarded?
The NHL rulebook:
" Rule 25 – Awarded Goals
25.1 Awarded Goal – A goal will be awarded to the attacking team when the opposing team has taken their goalkeeper off the ice and an attacking player has possession and control of the puck (or would have gained possession and control) in the neutral or attacking zone, without a defending player between himself and the opposing goal, and he is prevented from scoring as a result of an infraction committed by the defending team"
I leave looking at the NCAA rulebook to someone else right now, but I doubt it would be different.
It appears that it is. Under Rule 25 - Penalty Shot/Optional Minor Penalty, in section 3, there's this:
"If, at the time a penalty shot is awarded, the goalkeeper of the penalized
team has been removed from the ice to substitute another player, the
goalkeeper shall be permitted to return to the ice before the penalty shot
is taken."
Here's a link. It's on page 36. (https://www.achahockey.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/2020-22-NCAA-Rules.pdf)
Somewhere, Providence's Randy Wilson is saying, "I KNEW a shot on an empty net isn't an automatic goal!"
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: RichHQuote from: djk26I knew there was a penalty shot in a game this year--so this is as good a place as any to post the question--certainly not worth a new thread.
What happens if a skater is taken down by the opposition while skating to an empty net with the puck? (Of course if you've got the puck and a empty net just shoot it from center ice or something, but I think it could happen that a skater is taken down while skating towards an empty net.) Is there a "penalty shot" on an empty net, or is a goal automatically awarded?
The NHL rulebook:
" Rule 25 – Awarded Goals
25.1 Awarded Goal – A goal will be awarded to the attacking team when the opposing team has taken their goalkeeper off the ice and an attacking player has possession and control of the puck (or would have gained possession and control) in the neutral or attacking zone, without a defending player between himself and the opposing goal, and he is prevented from scoring as a result of an infraction committed by the defending team"
I leave looking at the NCAA rulebook to someone else right now, but I doubt it would be different.
It appears that it is. Under Rule 25 - Penalty Shot/Optional Minor Penalty, in section 3, there's this:
"If, at the time a penalty shot is awarded, the goalkeeper of the penalized
team has been removed from the ice to substitute another player, the
goalkeeper shall be permitted to return to the ice before the penalty shot
is taken."
Here's a link. It's on page 36. (https://www.achahockey.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/2020-22-NCAA-Rules.pdf)
Somewhere, Providence's Randy Wilson is saying, "I KNEW a shot on an empty net isn't an automatic goal!"
That same wording appears in the NHL rulebook (Rule 25.2). I think that applies to a situation where a penalty shot is called, but the goalkeeper had left the ice so the team awarded a penalty shot can't argue that the goaltender shouldn't be out to defend. The key is any penalty shot, as there are other situations where a penalty shot may be awarded (e.g. covering the puck in the crease).
NCAA rulebook Rule 61 (page 56):
"If, when the opposing goalkeeper has been removed from the ice, a player in control of the puck in the neutral or attacking zone is tripped or otherwise fouled with no opposition between him and the opposing goal, thus preventing an obvious and imminent goal, the referee shall immediately stop play and award a goal to the attacking team.
Note: "Control of the puck" is defined as the act of propelling the puck with the stick, hand or skate. If, while it is being propelled, the puck is touched by another player or that player's equipment, hits the goal or goes free, the player shall not be considered in control of the puck (see 87.1)."
A penalty shot has NOT been awarded (a goal has) so the wording of Rule 25 isn't applicable.