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Title: Lake Placid
Post by: dbilmes on December 10, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
The ECAC tournament will continue to be in Lake Placid for at least three more years (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2021-22/News/20211210_-_Lake_Placid). Someday I hope to make it up there!
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 10, 2021, 05:52:38 PM
I'll be there this year if (1) we are and (2) the covidiots aren't.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 10, 2021, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI'll be there this year if (1) we are and (2) the covidiots aren't.

1 is certainly possible.  2 seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: upprdeck on December 10, 2021, 11:24:36 PM
well if it stays where its headed now , how many unvaccinated are gonna want to get tested so they can go wear a mask in lake placid?  lynah is pretty quiet so far in many sections.. I dont expect it picks up much after the break unless things get better.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: CU2007 on December 11, 2021, 01:16:30 AM
Quote from: upprdeckwell if it stays where its headed now , how many unvaccinated are gonna want to get tested so they can go wear a mask in lake placid?  lynah is pretty quiet so far in many sections.. I dont expect it picks up much after the break unless things get better.

Agreed. Attendance at Lynah will be bad for the rest of the year. It was already declining pre-pandemic with your Netflix and unlimited entertainment options. Now you have to wear a mask for 3 hours even if you're vaccinated. And the game is available on your $200 65" inch TV for a couple bucks a month. I would bet (sadly) that the days of a packed Lynah won't return for many years
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 11, 2021, 04:56:12 AM
Quote from: CU2007Now you have to wear a mask for 3 hours even if you're vaccinated.

Good.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 11, 2021, 08:20:04 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007Now you have to wear a mask for 3 hours even if you're vaccinated.

Good.
Right.  It's not hard to do.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Rita on December 11, 2021, 08:41:35 AM
I can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 11, 2021, 12:30:45 PM
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: arugula on December 11, 2021, 01:52:58 PM
True dat. Sadly most of the country.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Robb on December 11, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
Only by land area.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: jtwcornell91 on December 12, 2021, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.

Although I've seen that Rochester has a lower vax rate than Monroe County as a whole, despite being a lot bluer.  Income/class/race also plays a role, e.g., for people who can't afford the potential time off to recover from a vaccination.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: The Rancor on December 12, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.

Although I've seen that Rochester has a lower vax rate than Monroe County as a whole, despite being a lot bluer.  Income/class/race also plays a role, e.g., for people who can't afford the potential time off to recover from a vaccination.

while you may have a point, I can say that as someone who works face to face with the public, most of my peers are more willing to get the vaccine than miss, you know, life, and aren't worried about a day of feeling like the flu. We all have worked with way worse than vaccine side effects.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: ugarte on December 13, 2021, 01:48:45 PM
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.

Although I've seen that Rochester has a lower vax rate than Monroe County as a whole, despite being a lot bluer.  Income/class/race also plays a role, e.g., for people who can't afford the potential time off to recover from a vaccination.

while you may have a point, I can say that as someone who works face to face with the public, most of my peers are more willing to get the vaccine than miss, you know, life, and aren't worried about a day of feeling like the flu. We all have worked with way worse than vaccine side effects.
as gently as i can, i will say most people who don't take the vaccine specifically because they are worried about missing work are closer to the workers who amazon didn't let leave the warehouse ahead of a tornado than they are to your peer group
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 13, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.

Although I've seen that Rochester has a lower vax rate than Monroe County as a whole, despite being a lot bluer.  Income/class/race also plays a role, e.g., for people who can't afford the potential time off to recover from a vaccination.

while you may have a point, I can say that as someone who works face to face with the public, most of my peers are more willing to get the vaccine than miss, you know, life, and aren't worried about a day of feeling like the flu. We all have worked with way worse than vaccine side effects.
as gently as i can, i will say most people who don't take the vaccine specifically because they are worried about missing work are closer to the workers who amazon didn't let leave the warehouse ahead of a tornado than they are to your peer group

Very good point.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: upprdeck on December 13, 2021, 02:15:31 PM
how much of the working class is in a spot where the cant get the booster on fri/sat now or almost any evening?  in Ny state you can get one pretty easy but maybe not some other states. still I havent talked to too many people where the side effects of the booster would have meant they couldnt go to work.. if this was 5 yrs ago and you had the side effects from the flu shot like the covid side effects most people would have just gone to work no matter how they felt.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: billhoward on December 13, 2021, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: dbilmesThe ECAC tournament will continue to be in Lake Placid for at least three more years (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2021-22/News/20211210_-_Lake_Placid). Someday I hope to make it up there!
Lake Placid is the right place for the current ECAC, once half of the old ECAC split off to form Hockey East and made Boston Garden their home. With respect to Albany (the geographic center of the 12 teams) and Atlantic City (a 3- or 2-year play to attract gamblers with unique weekend evening entertainment), Lake Placid is the right spot and it feels right for the current ECAC and its small town / rural schools. Besides, what else is there: Bridgeport? New Haven? Springfield? If you go to Glens Falls NY you're in the Adirondacks but not really in the Adirondacks, so why not go all the way to LP?

Lake Placid over the past year ripped up its main street for new water-sewer-fiber, there are new restaurants, a couple more bars and a couple places with live music and the main rink can now be a 200x85 configuration.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 13, 2021, 05:23:33 PM
Let's not debate the working class on an Ivy League hockey site, even if it is The People's Ivy.  My house (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dD9cY_O4g) can't stop that karma train.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: The Rancor on December 14, 2021, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaI can't find it now, but yesterday Yahoo news had an article about Covid-19 in upstate NY and how there are major areas where the vaccination rates are low and the hospitalization rates are now rising.  Surprise, Surprise.
Most of upstate is Derpistan.

Although I've seen that Rochester has a lower vax rate than Monroe County as a whole, despite being a lot bluer.  Income/class/race also plays a role, e.g., for people who can't afford the potential time off to recover from a vaccination.

while you may have a point, I can say that as someone who works face to face with the public, most of my peers are more willing to get the vaccine than miss, you know, life, and aren't worried about a day of feeling like the flu. We all have worked with way worse than vaccine side effects.
as gently as i can, i will say most people who don't take the vaccine specifically because they are worried about missing work are closer to the workers who amazon didn't let leave the warehouse ahead of a tornado than they are to your peer group

I appreciate what you are saying, but truth is my peer group is the ones who come to work while sick, because we don't have paid days off, because we could get fired, because we don't have good heath insurance. We mostly all got the vax because we cant miss work, and working with the flu is a ritual. I feel for those Amazon workers. nearly 30 years in restaurants- if the building is on fire, we're serving BBQ in the parking lot. (I think that was your point, but I might be wrong, if so, sorry)
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: upprdeck on December 14, 2021, 12:49:51 PM
with todays news placid might not matter.. cancelling short term sporting events around campus
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Dafatone on December 14, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: upprdeckwith todays news placid might not matter.. cancelling short term sporting events around campus

Whoa.

Hopefully everyone's okay. And hopefully things are better by the start of spring semester / the North Dakota trip.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Iceberg on December 14, 2021, 01:32:32 PM
The previous break was a little over 2 weeks ago. Not surprising that the effects are being seen now, but at least there's a much longer break about to begin which should help significantly
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: nshapiro on December 14, 2021, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: IcebergThe previous break was a little over 2 weeks ago. Not surprising that the effects are being seen now, but at least there's a much longer break about to begin which should help significantly

Help how?

Getting Cornell to replace the anime convention as the latest likely omicron vector site?
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: osorojo on December 14, 2021, 02:39:22 PM
Darwin's theorem marches on. Here's our chance to improve the quality and sustainability of Cornell hockey fans. Let's not ruin this opportunity.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: abmarks on December 14, 2021, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: IcebergThe previous break was a little over 2 weeks ago. Not surprising that the effects are being seen now, but at least there's a much longer break about to begin which should help significantly

IDK.

By the time the students are scheduled to return to campus in January omicron is going to be absolutely rampant and dominant in this country.

I would not be surprised if there are serious shutdowns by that point in time all over the place
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: George64 on December 14, 2021, 11:29:28 PM
From the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/14/nyregion/cornell-university-covid.html) . . .
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: jtwcornell91 on December 15, 2021, 11:06:32 AM
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: IcebergThe previous break was a little over 2 weeks ago. Not surprising that the effects are being seen now, but at least there's a much longer break about to begin which should help significantly

IDK.

By the time the students are scheduled to return to campus in January omicron is going to be absolutely rampant and dominant in this country.

I would not be surprised if there are serious shutdowns by that point in time all over the place

Given that New York State just finally got around from moving masking from a polite recommendation to an unenforced mandate, after four months of mounting cases, I'm not optimistic.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 15, 2021, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: IcebergThe previous break was a little over 2 weeks ago. Not surprising that the effects are being seen now, but at least there's a much longer break about to begin which should help significantly

IDK.

By the time the students are scheduled to return to campus in January omicron is going to be absolutely rampant and dominant in this country.

I would not be surprised if there are serious shutdowns by that point in time all over the place

Given that New York State just finally got around from moving masking from a polite recommendation to an unenforced mandate, after four months of mounting cases, I'm not optimistic.

Nobody exposed to the electorate is likely to do anything because of the Galloping Meatballism of the, ahem, common clay of the New West.

But the ECAC can make the whole thing go tits up tomorrow if they want to limit the body count.  Just comes down to the expected value of the concessions function.  Hey, they actually said no to hawking lives for pocket change once.  That actually happened.  The fuckwits almost always win, but... almost.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 15, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
"The common clay of the New West."

Indeed.

I assume you know the ending of the line was ad libbed by Gene Wilder.  That's why Cleavon Little giggles at the end of the scene.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Trotsky on December 15, 2021, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82"The common clay of the New West."

Indeed.

I assume you know the ending of the line was ad libbed by Gene Wilder.  That's why Cleavon Little giggles at the end of the scene.
I did not know that.
Title: Re: Lake Placid
Post by: Chris H82 on December 15, 2021, 09:37:29 PM
https://quotegeek.com/quotes-from-movies/blazing-saddles/1123/