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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: scoop85 on June 16, 2021, 08:30:52 AM

Title: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: scoop85 on June 16, 2021, 08:30:52 AM
Buccigross tweeted last night he's hearing that Augustana University in Sioux Falls, SD is planning on starting a D-1 hockey program in 2023. They don't even have club hockey right now, but the school is moving from DII to DI in all sports and adding hockey apparently is part of their master plan.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Dafatone on June 16, 2021, 11:34:43 AM
Augustana is practically my backyard. I'm all for it, though I don't know how you start up a division one team out of nothing.

Who do I lobby to get Cornell to come play here?
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Beeeej on June 16, 2021, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: DafatoneAugustana is practically my backyard. I'm all for it, though I don't know how you start up a division one team out of nothing.

Who do I lobby to get Cornell to come play here?

Coach Schafer - but then also Augustana's head coach, who will be expected to commit to playing at Lynah in exchange.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Trotsky on June 16, 2021, 01:42:57 PM
Is Augustana one of those arts colleges in the frozen Midwest like St. Olaf, Macalester, Carleton, and Hamline?

Edit: No, that's Augsburg.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: scoop85 on June 16, 2021, 03:01:41 PM
Quote from: DafatoneAugustana is practically my backyard. I'm all for it, though I don't know how you start up a division one team out of nothing.

Who do I lobby to get Cornell to come play here?

Well LIU announced they were starting a D1 program on 4/30/20 and they did ok with a season that started less than 6 months later.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Dafatone on June 16, 2021, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIs Augustana one of those arts colleges in the frozen Midwest like St. Olaf, Macalester, Carleton, and Hamline?

Edit: No, that's Augsburg.

It's the fancy rich private school for upper crust South Dakotans.

I know how silly that sounds.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: RichH on June 16, 2021, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: DafatoneAugustana is practically my backyard. I'm all for it, though I don't know how you start up a division one team out of nothing.

Cash and corruption.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: David Harding on June 17, 2021, 12:22:15 AM
Coincidentally, Josh Whitman, the athletic director of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, talked about their potential ice hockey program today.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-cb-illinois-josh-whitman-ice-hockey-vaccines-20210617-o5haog57tvfbfe3b2j57i7s3ty-story.html
Quote from: AD2. Let's do that hockey?

Illinois made a splash when it announced in 2017 it was pursuing the development of a varsity ice hockey team.

While Whitman considered the university "in the red zone" toward launching a team in the summer of 2019, the Illini hit some obstacles with fundraising and then paused the project because of the pandemic.

He said he is restarting conversations with donors and developers about beginning a hockey program. Whitman will need to see if previously committed donors are still on board.

"We had walked it so far down the road, we can't just walk away from it without at least reopening the conversation to see if it continues to make sense," he said.

Illinois had considered a project that included multiple sports in a downtown Champaign complex. Factors such as facilities and which sports can be included would determine the cost of a program.

Whitman said he doesn't feel obligated to go beyond conversations, but he can foresee a hockey program becoming the third-highest revenue-producing sport.

"We know where we think the money was," he said. "We just need to go back and see if it's still there."

Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: billhoward on June 17, 2021, 01:17:13 AM
Quote"We know where we think the money was," he said. "We just need to go back and see if it's still there."
Sounds like a line out of a John Sandford Lucas Dake Davenport police novel, except that's set in Minnesota.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: George64 on June 17, 2021, 08:01:03 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote"We know where we think the money was," he said. "We just need to go back and see if it's still there."
Sounds like a line out of a John Sandford Lucas Dake police novel, except that's set in Minnesota.

Lucas Davenport?
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: osorojo on June 17, 2021, 08:30:44 AM
After watching the NFL grow from six teams to thirty teams I'm convinced that expanding D-1 college hockey will benefit the game - finally put it on a par with baseball, basketball and football.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Scersk '97 on June 17, 2021, 02:51:08 PM
Quote from: osorojoAfter watching the NFL grow from six teams to thirty teams I'm convinced that expanding D-1 college hockey will benefit the game - finally put it on a par with baseball, basketball and football.

Selfishly, I prefer that college hockey stays a rather small pond for a long, long time.

We might do fine during an explosive period of expansion as our talent remains the same but the "not heading to Ivies" talent gets spread more thinly, but pretty soon there would be too much money and attention flying around for non-scholarship schools to compete, like in other sports, viz., the aforementioned baseball, basketball, and football.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: billhoward on June 18, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
Yes, Lucas Davenport. How many of John Sanford / Lucas Davenport's top 100 rock tunes of all time do you agree with? You really have to be on the outer/older edge of Baby Boomerdom to align fully. Sandford was born in 1943.

http://www.johnsandford.org/listofsongs.html
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: George64 on June 18, 2021, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: billhowardYes, Lucas Davenport. How many of John Sanford / Lucas Davenport's top 100 rock tunes of all time do you agree with? You really have to be on the outer/older edge of Baby Boomerdom to align fully. Sandford was born in 1943.

About a third — I was born a year before Sandford.  Just got Ocean Prey from the library with both Davenport and Virgil Flowers.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: billhoward on June 18, 2021, 04:56:38 PM
Some authors writing a book series, or series of series, lose it over time. I'm not sure how long Sandford can keep up the pace. I'm learning a lot about driving Minnesota back roads in a Porsche, tho. Daniel Silva's Gabiel Allon series is still well-written, but it starts to seem like the framing of the plot pays homage to previous books. Phillip Kerr's Bernie Gunther series (German detective with a conscience, in the 1930s-50s-50s) has been well written but Kerr died in 2018, so the series ends at 14. Yep, thread drift again. But really, Cornell sports is quiet for another month or two.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: George64 on June 18, 2021, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: billhowardYep, thread drift again. But really, Cornell sports is quiet for another month or two.
To help pass the time, the next Gabriel Allon book, The Cellist, will be available July 13.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Trotsky on June 22, 2021, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: TrotskyIs Augustana one of those arts colleges in the frozen Midwest like St. Olaf, Macalester, Carleton, and Hamline?

Edit: No, that's Augsburg.

It's the fancy rich private school for upper crust South Dakotans.

I know how silly that sounds.

No trees in the Dakotas so I guess we'll do iron guillotines for them.

Wasn't Fitzgerald from around there?  There are rich cockroaches everywhere.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: dbilmes on June 22, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
This is interesting (https://www.nhl.com/news/color-of-hockey-tennessee-state-planning-division-i-team/c-325187324). Tennessee State, with support from the Nashville Predators, is seriously pursuing plans to become the first HBUC to have a Division I college hockey program. The Athletic (https://theathletic.com/2660391/2021/06/21/inside-tennessee-state-universitys-plans-to-become-the-first-hbcu-with-di-hockey-teams/) also had coverage, but there's a paywall.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Swampy on June 24, 2021, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: dbilmesThis is interesting (https://www.nhl.com/news/color-of-hockey-tennessee-state-planning-division-i-team/c-325187324). Tennessee State, with support from the Nashville Predators, is seriously pursuing plans to become the first HBUC to have a Division I college hockey program. The Athletic (https://theathletic.com/2660391/2021/06/21/inside-tennessee-state-universitys-plans-to-become-the-first-hbcu-with-di-hockey-teams/) also had coverage, but there's a paywall.

Talk about an unlikely candidate! It would be great if they can pull it off. I wish them luck.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Trotsky on June 25, 2021, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: dbilmesThis is interesting (https://www.nhl.com/news/color-of-hockey-tennessee-state-planning-division-i-team/c-325187324). Tennessee State, with support from the Nashville Predators, is seriously pursuing plans to become the first HBUC to have a Division I college hockey program. The Athletic (https://theathletic.com/2660391/2021/06/21/inside-tennessee-state-universitys-plans-to-become-the-first-hbcu-with-di-hockey-teams/) also had coverage, but there's a paywall.

Talk about an unlikely candidate! It would be great if they can pull it off. I wish them luck.
Fantastic for lots of reasons.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: osorojo on June 26, 2021, 09:12:27 AM
If you build a rink coaching and talent will follow.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Weder on June 26, 2021, 11:24:35 AM
The Predators and the regional government have built a couple of ice centers in the Nashville area and are working on a third. There's also been a Thanksgiving tournament with some big DI women's programs for a few years in Nashville. So there's a lot going on and it would be great if Tennessee State adds hockey.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Jim Hyla on June 27, 2021, 05:30:53 PM
Quote from: osorojoIf you build a rink coaching and talent will follow.

If you build a rink and have considerable money left over...
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: marty on June 28, 2021, 08:25:00 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: osorojoIf you build a rink coaching and talent will follow.

If you build a rink and have considerable money left over...

... and don't hire Seth Appert.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: osorojo on June 28, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
Pick a rink 10+ years old and see if it spawned any Pewee-to-NHL talent. Lynah/Cass Park did.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: Trotsky on June 28, 2021, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: osorojoIf you build a rink coaching and talent will follow.

If you build a rink and have considerable money left over...

... and don't hire Seth Appert.
I felt that burn from here.
Title: Re: New College Hockey Program?
Post by: CU2007 on July 15, 2021, 09:02:33 PM
https://triblive.com/sports/robert-morris-plans-to-reinstate-mens-and-womens-hockey-programs/

Robert Morris Hockey appears to be saved.