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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: abmarks on November 08, 2020, 03:31:19 PM

Title: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: abmarks on November 08, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
While catching up on some old articles, I noticed that both Vermont and Dartmouth have hired new coaches who come directly/recently from behind an NHL bench.

my first thought is it's good for the game. but I'm wondering what the brain trust here thinks the impact might be, especially if the trend continues.

thoughts?
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Troyfan on November 09, 2020, 08:27:28 AM
A major league manager going to the minors?  What's the history?  What's the perception?  Dealing with men is different from dealing with boys.  NFL drafting is a world apart from college recruiting. No guarantees I can see one way or the other.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Beeeej on November 09, 2020, 08:36:46 AM
Quote from: TroyfanA major league manager going to the minors?  What's the history?  What's the perception?  Dealing with men is different from dealing with boys.  NFL drafting is a world apart from college recruiting. No guarantees I can see one way or the other.

More akin to a major league pitching coach going to the minors as a manager. Nobody's hiring NHL head coaches to be NCAA head coaches, at least not that I've seen.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Troyfan on November 09, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
Didn't RPI have one of these, Seth Albert?  He was pretty good for a while.  Recruited pretty well but his hot head brought him down.  He had a bad habit of criticizing his players publicly.  Personally I think the currency of having been behind an NHL bench has been cheapened.  But each case is different.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: French Rage on November 09, 2020, 11:45:41 AM
- It's Seth Appert.
- From what I can tell, he did not have any previous pro-coaching experience.
- He did not accomplish anything at RPI over 11 years other than a swift 6-0 exit from the NCAAs.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: pfibiger on November 09, 2020, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: TroyfanA major league manager going to the minors?  What's the history?  What's the perception?  Dealing with men is different from dealing with boys.  NFL drafting is a world apart from college recruiting. No guarantees I can see one way or the other.

More akin to a major league pitching coach going to the minors as a manager. Nobody's hiring NHL head coaches to be NCAA head coaches, at least not that I've seen.

Except Western Michigan
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Beeeej on November 09, 2020, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: pfibiger
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: TroyfanA major league manager going to the minors?  What's the history?  What's the perception?  Dealing with men is different from dealing with boys.  NFL drafting is a world apart from college recruiting. No guarantees I can see one way or the other.

More akin to a major league pitching coach going to the minors as a manager. Nobody's hiring NHL head coaches to be NCAA head coaches, at least not that I've seen.

Except Western Michigan

Wow, that was a hell of a get. I didn't know about him.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: abmarks on November 09, 2020, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: TroyfanA major league manager going to the minors?  What's the history?  What's the perception?  Dealing with men is different from dealing with boys.  NFL drafting is a world apart from college recruiting. No guarantees I can see one way or the other.

More akin to a major league pitching coach going to the minors as a manager. Nobody's hiring NHL head coaches to be NCAA head coaches, at least not that I've seen.

not sure anyone took.my post in the direction I'd intended.   wasn't premising them as being more or less successful than traditional hires.

was more interested in whether coaching methods or on ice systems might shift.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Swampy on November 10, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: TroyfanDidn't RPI have one of these, Seth Albert?  He was pretty good for a while.  Recruited pretty well but his hot head brought him down.  He had a bad habit of criticizing his players publicly.  Personally I think the currency of having been behind an NHL bench has been cheapened.  But each case is different.

No, but I'm pretty sure Union did. IIRC, the guy had previously worked in the Red Wings organization.
Title: Re: coaches coming from the pros. is it a trend?
Post by: Iceberg on November 13, 2020, 08:38:28 AM
Tony Granton at Wisconsin also has quite a bit of experience as a head coach in the NHL. Wisconsin hasn't been particularly good for a while now though