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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Section A on April 18, 2003, 12:08:59 AM

Title: The Penrose
Post by: Section A on April 18, 2003, 12:08:59 AM
Oh well...

http://www.uscho.com/news/2003/04/17_006731.php
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Greg Berge on April 18, 2003, 02:11:33 AM
Grrrrrrrrrr... :-(
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: ugarte on April 18, 2003, 07:40:42 AM
No beef.  Ferris got its first tournament bid ever.  I expected him to win.  It isn't like losing to an ECAC coach that outperformed expectations to finish fifth.

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Richard Stott \'70 on April 18, 2003, 09:50:02 AM
The list of past winners is rather odd: http://www.ahcahockey.com/coty.html

Ned Harkness got it 1968 a year we lost in the NCAA semis, not for his national championships at RPI in 1954 (with two lines) and in 1967 and 1970.  Jerry York won it only at Clarkson in 1977 and Red Berenson has never won it.
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 18, 2003, 10:44:50 AM
QuoteRichard Stott '70 wrote:

The list of past winners is rather odd:  ....
For a time it appeared to me the Penrose was sort of like the "lifetime achievement award" Oscar.  Eddie Jeremiah (1967), Cooney Weiland (1971), and Snooks Kelley (1972) won it the year they retired from long coaching careers (although Weiland's 1971 Harvard team made a great run to win the ECACs).  In those days Division I coaches were a small fraternity, or "club," and Ned was probably viewed as a somewhat rebellious "little brother"  by his peers. ;-)   In the first 16 years there was only one repeat winner--Jack Riley--and it wouldn't surprise me if his 1960 award was largely a result of the Olympic win at Squaw Valley.

As the Division I coaching ranks have expanded, the Penrose seems to have become less of a popularity contest and, in my view, has become more reflective of each season's performance/accomplishments, although Berenson's absence is very striking.

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: kingpin248 on April 18, 2003, 10:47:14 AM
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:
In the first 16 years there was only one repeat winner--Jack Riley--and it wouldn't surprise me if his 1960 award was largely a result of the Olympic win at Squaw Valley.

You hit the nail on the head.  According to my sports almanac, Squaw Valley was the reason Riley won in 1960.
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 18, 2003, 11:40:10 AM
Also worth noting is that the Penrose is often thought of as going to a coach whose team over-achieved in some respect.  This might explain Ned's being awarded it in 1968 rather than in the championship year of 1967.  Cornell graduated an incredible senior class in 1967 (the Fergusons, Doran, Orr, Death[e], Althouse, Bob Kinasewich, Wallace)--in many ways analogous to this year's graduating class--so to repeat as eastern champs was probably viewed as perhaps a bit of a surprise.

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: CUlater on April 18, 2003, 12:19:40 PM
[Q]...going to a coach whose team over-achieved in some respect....[/Q]

Ditto Joe Marsh in 1989, the year after St. Lawrence lost in the NCAA finals to Lake Superior State.  In 1989, they won the ECAC championship (possibly thanks to Vermont upsetting Harvard in the semis) despite having lost the older Lappin brothers and the great defensemen from the '87-'88 squad.
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Will on April 18, 2003, 12:27:06 PM
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:

Also worth noting is that the Penrose is often thought of as going to a coach whose team over-achieved in some respect. This might explain Ned's being awarded it in 1968 rather than in the championship year of 1967. Cornell graduated an incredible senior class in 1967 (the Fergusons, Doran, Orr, Death[e], Althouse, Bob Kinasewich, Wallace)--in many ways analogous to this year's graduating class--so to repeat as eastern champs was probably viewed as perhaps a bit of a surprise.

Does that mean that if next year's team goes the distance, Schafer's a shoe-in for the Penrose 2004? ;-)

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: ugarte on April 18, 2003, 02:26:25 PM
QuoteOne of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:
Does that mean that if next year's team goes the distance, Schafer's a shoe-in for the Penrose 2004? ;-)

If we go all the way next year I am submitting Schafer's name for the Penrose, the Pulitzer, and all of the Nobel categories.  Maybe even a Grammy.

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: Greg Berge on April 18, 2003, 04:52:06 PM
And Miss America.  The swimsuit competition -- now *there's* an image.
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: LetsGoRed on April 18, 2003, 05:10:58 PM
 ::yark::
Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: jtwcornell91 on April 18, 2003, 05:50:46 PM
Swan Lake, anyone?

Title: Re: The Penrose
Post by: cquinn on April 18, 2003, 05:58:03 PM
There are persistant rumors that a tape of Swan Lake exists.  If it ever surfaces, I would pay large amounts for a copy.