Cornell picked up a commitment from 16-year old center Tyler Wishart from Westchester County. He was recently drafted in the 7th round of the USHL draft by Lincoln. Neutral Zone describes him this way: "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Quote from: scoop85Cornell picked up a commitment from 16-year old center Tyler Wishart from Westchester County. He was recently drafted in the 7th round of the USHL draft by Lincoln. Neutral Zone describes him this way: "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Just what I like in a hockey player: "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration".
>>> "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Is that another way of saying "small"?
Quote from: billhoward>>> "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Is that another way of saying "small"?
Oh, for a minute, I thought that read: "Topher".... Sorry.
Quote from: billhoward>>> "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Is that another way of saying "small"?
Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: billhoward>>> "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Is that another way of saying "small"?
Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo
Waddaya wanna bet by the time he's 18 he's over 6' & 185?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: abmarksQuote from: billhoward>>> "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he's a D1 prospect and a good one."
Is that another way of saying "small"?
Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo
Waddaya wanna bet by the time he's 18 he's over 6' & 185?
And slower. ;-)
But he sounds fantastic. And who knows, he might get stronger and even faster. ::cheer::
https://twitter.com/o_psenicka/status/1334169788487184391
At 19 he is listed at 6' 6" and 205 lbs. - hoping he can skate like other bigger guys we have seen last couple of years. LGR
Ondrej Psenicka will be our third Czech and our first from Prague.
Jiri Kloboucek (1996), Dubi
Dan Svoboda (2001), Benesov
And he's on the Czech U20 national team.
But it looks like he's a checking forward. 6G, 12A in 43 games with Waterloo last year. C rated speed by NHL Central Scouting according to his profile on Waterloo's webpage.
C rated by NHL Central Scouting means he projects as a late round NHL draft pick. He was a big scorer prior to his year with Waterloo. Seems to be an intriguing prospect. Can't wait to see him in Lynah.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
::barf::
Quote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
http://www.ondrejpsenicka.com
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
http://www.ondrejpsenicka.com
He's cute, too.
Nice socks.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
http://www.ondrejpsenicka.com
Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
http://www.ondrejpsenicka.com
Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.
pretty sure I misdirected to the next level. don't think it's the same guy
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But it looks like he's a checking forward.
AND A CZECHING FORWARD!
I'll see myself out.
i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
http://www.ondrejpsenicka.com
Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.
pretty sure I misdirected to the next level. don't think it's the same guy
Considering that the magician "left business school in 2005 to pursue his love of magic full time", no, he's probably not the same person as the Czech under-20 hockey player.
JESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT
Quote from: French RageJESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT
I'm going back in time with my bit. rewinding.
Damn, wonder if the team can get hockey stockings made to match his funky socks. would make a great third alternative un i
Quote from: French RageJESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT
eLynah is not, as a rule, a good place for comedy.
I'm making magician jokes every time he does something good. Maybe even if he does something bad.
And here I thought Czeching forward would be the best we could do on this.
Ironically Cornell lacrosse backup faceoff guy Mitch Rothstein happens to be an accomplished magician (https://www.courierpostonline.com/story/sports/2017/03/28/boys-lacrosse-magic-mitchell-faceoff-maven/99732700/).
Quote from: TrotskyOndrej Psenicka will be our third Czech and our first from Prague.
Jiri Kloboucek (1996), Dubi
Dan Svoboda (2001), Benesov
And the second Cornell player whose jersey on the back includes a pronunciation guide, at least freshman year.
Dan Svoboda is close enough to "Ron Swoboda."
Maybe before the Juniors, he went through a Harry Potter phase and there was a time warp.
https://twitter.com/remi_keopple1/status/1341922164178644992
He's a goalie who plays for Des Moines in the USHL.
He's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.
Quote from: dbilmesHe's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.
likely one of the first from Wisconsin as well. https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/597411/remington-keopple has him as a 22-23 commit
can we get a pronunciation guide oh keopple
Quote from: dbilmesHe's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.
He is.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: dbilmesHe's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.
likely one of the first from Wisconsin as well. https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/597411/remington-keopple has him as a 22-23 commit
2nd.
Evan Salmela '07 (Whitefish Bay)
Unfortunately Ondrej Psenicka was one of the last 3 cuts from the Czech junior team so we won't get to see him in the World Junior tournament beginning today
New recruit, Ben Robertson. A defenseman from Virginia, he plays for the powerhouse Mount Charles Academy program in Rhode Island. He's on their U16 team so it will be awhile before he makes it to Ithaca. His Twitter profile shows he's an Omaha Lancers prospect in the USHL.
https://twitter.com/benrobertson04/status/1346083538228154368
https://twitter.com/mthompsSC/status/1346197375396831238?s=19
Quote from: blackwidowhttps://twitter.com/mthompsSC/status/1346197375396831238?s=19
A Brit! So would this be our first recruit from the UK (paging Trotsky)?
EDIT: I see the legendary Pete Wheelright who arrived in Ithaca in 1959 is listed on TBRW as being from the UK
6'4", 205# D-man. Right up Schafer's alley.
He's from Cobham, which is just up the road from Guildford where there's a professional team in the EIHL. Wonder if there's a connection?
Dog gone going! (https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3218934/benny-the-ice-skating-dog-returning-to-the-rink-is-the-best-video-youll-watch-today)
Schafer talks about the challenge of recruiting (https://cornellsun.com/2021/02/17/social-distancing-and-lack-of-ivy-sports-force-reimagined-recruitment/) during a pandemic. It can't be easy.
he fact the ivies didnt offer sports can be seen as a lack of commitment or viewed as even more of a commitment to the kids.
The IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight Pathetic. One minute it's follow the science and the next breath they shut everything down. If they really cared about student health and well being they would be closed to in person instruction. They know that there are large gatherings on/off campus but since they need the influx of revenue they are willing to take that risk. But somehow athletic competition is different to them.
Quote from: Cop at LynahThe IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight
It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.
Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.
Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.
It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahThe IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight
It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.
Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.
Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.
It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.
Why do you believe that their decisions on athletics are based on maximizing revenue?
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahThe IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight
It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.
Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.
Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.
It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.
Why do you believe that their decisions on athletics are based on maximizing revenue?
It's not exactly
revenue. Money is only a crass and arbitrary scorekeeping device.
It's brand. The Ivies live or die by maintaining a magical moat between them and the others. It's a guild system -- you pull up the draw bridge and create entry barriers. You deny equal footing to others by fiat. You protect your discriminator -- your label.
Ivies
need to behave differently. Banning "athletic scholarships" (while having operational equivalents in place) is one marketing tactic. Not playing is (fortunately) another.
HYP can survive competing head-to-head with anybody else because of endowment and the momentum of a hundred years of class prestige and because, annoyingly, they still deliver the goods. The other five have to maintain the gated community or be overwhelmed by dozens of competitors.
Why? Christ, man, what do you want from me?
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/the-way-of-the-world-b0055b95-a963-4519-a492-4e02a09092d-resize-750.jpeg)
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
https://twitter.com/AAABlues/status/1372204755079020549
Quote from: TrotskyPower forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
https://twitter.com/AAABlues/status/1372204755079020549
2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year's futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.
Trotsky is right. It IS the brand, which includes a whole lot more than cash-in-hand or a winning hockey team. The Ivy League did a fine job of protecting the Ivy League brand, and protecting students in the process.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPower forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
https://twitter.com/AAABlues/status/1372204755079020549
2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year's futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.
6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPower forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year's futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.
6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.
He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPower forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year's futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.
6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.
He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?
According to Elite Prospects (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/610197/tyler-catalano), he's 17 now (DOB Feb. 24, 2004)
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPower forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.
2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year's futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.
6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.
He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?
According to Elite Prospects (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/610197/tyler-catalano), he's 17 now (DOB Feb. 24, 2004)
Shrimp.
We have a fair number (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2022/2022_Future_Players.html) of commitments now.
Quote from: TrotskyWe have a fair number (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2022/2022_Future_Players.html) of commitments now.
According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.
Wonder how tall this kid is gonna get given hi current height. 6'6?
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: TrotskyWe have a fair number (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2022/2022_Future_Players.html) of commitments now.
According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.
It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: abmarksQuote from: TrotskyWe have a fair number (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2022/2022_Future_Players.html) of commitments now.
According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.
It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.
Even if true that they were 13, I have to think that they would be a bit of cherry picking and some of those folks would get deferred or commitments dropped
That list of 13 includes the 4 freshmen who entered in the fall of 2020
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: abmarksQuote from: TrotskyWe have a fair number (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2022/2022_Future_Players.html) of commitments now.
According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.
It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.
Even if true that they were 13, I have to think that they would be a bit of cherry picking and some of those folks would get deferred or commitments dropped
They may need 13, though. How many returning players are actually going to be left?
Hell, they may need 18.
The first season back,
whenever that is, is going to be the closest we will ever see to a random draft.
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Quote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Cornell sees a jump in cases. https://cornellsun.com/2021/03/19/cornell-moves-to-yellow-alert-reports-disturbing-increase-in-cases/
Quote from: SunAbout half of these cases are tied to first-year students living on North Campus, Pollack wrote. Many of the cases are also linked to transmission from Greek life organizations, athletic teams, parties and travel outside of Ithaca. [emphasis added]
Quote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.
If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.
It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).
tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.
If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.
It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).
tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.
Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.
If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.
It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).
tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.
Speaking of Darwin, here's a scene from spring break in Florida. Yeah, we may be fucked. https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1373265664698429442
Quote from: scoop85Speaking of Darwin, here's a scene from spring break in Florida.
"Every MAGA is a moron, but not every moron is a MAGA."
Darwin never rests. He's constantly thinning out the smug and the feeble-minded - but it's like whack-a-mole.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.
If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.
It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).
tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.
Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...
Not really. No kids under 16 vaccinated and I think that's around 20% of population. Throw in that 50% of Republican males say they won't get it, and somewhat lower for females, those get you at least down another 10-15%. So there you have 30-35% unvaccinated and doesn't count the number of others who say no.
What we don't know is how many of unvaccinated were infected and have
some immunity. I say
some as it looks like imunity from the vaccines is better than prior infection.
So depending upon what % is needed for Herd effects, we probably won't be there till kids get immunized. That may start for older, 12-16, before the end of the year, but younger kids probably next year. Kids don't get as sick, but can still transmit and they are hosts that can lead to more variants.
If we keep this going, here and abroad, the concern is a variant that is vaccine resistant.
The only good thing about the varriant possibility is that the mRNA vaccines can be adjusted very quickly to cover variants, but it would mean getting everyone vaccinated again.
And get used to wearing masks. Even if we open up for spectators, you may go to a game wearing a mask.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteThere is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.
Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.
If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.
It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).
tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.
Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...
Not really. No kids under 16 vaccinated and I think that's around 20% of population. Throw in that 50% of Republican males say they won't get it, and somewhat lower for females, those get you at least down another 10-15%. So there you have 30-35% unvaccinated and doesn't count the number of others who say no.
What we don't know is how many of unvaccinated were infected and have some immunity. I say some as it looks like imunity from the vaccines is better than prior infection.
So depending upon what % is needed for Herd effects, we probably won't be there till kids get immunized. That may start for older, 12-16, before the end of the year, but younger kids probably next year. Kids don't get as sick, but can still transmit and they are hosts that can lead to more variants.
If we keep this going, here and abroad, the concern is a variant that is vaccine resistant.
The only good thing about the variant possibility is that the mRNA vaccines can be adjusted very quickly to cover variants, but it would mean getting everyone vaccinated again.
And get used to wearing masks. Even if we open up for spectators, you may go to a game wearing a mask.
Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.
IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.
I have a right to refuse a Covid vaccination because I don't want it, and along with that right comes my right to infect others wth Covid and destroy any hope of herd immunity. That goes for hockey teams too.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.
IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.
Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.
IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.
Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.
Hopefully it can just be added to the annual flu shot.
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- Won't any boosters have to be matched to the original vaccine?
- More important than herd immunity, isn't the bigger issue mutations? As long as there are enough morons, won't the virus find lots of hosts in which to mutate?
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.
IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.
Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.
Hopefully it can just be added to the annual flu shot.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.
IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.
Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.
Didn't know you were a swinger
Jim of course is spot on, plus the issue of variants.
Here's my question though. Everybody in the hockey program is over 16. They will be plenty of shots available come fall... So why don't we and the league just mandate vaccination for participation by the players as well as the coaching staff.
Even if we're not at herd immunity it seems to me that would be sufficient to let the kids play. Jim, any reason that might not work?
its gonna be required to get a shot to go to school if the school gets their way.. shots are gonna be available by May the way things look now in NY.. I think the opt out rate by college kids will be way lower than for an avg person.
Quote from: abmarksHere's my question though. Everybody in the hockey program is over 16. They will be plenty of shots available come fall... So why don't we and the league just mandate vaccination for participation by the players as well as the coaching staff.
According to the NYS COVID website those now eligible include "Not-for-profit workers who provide public-facing services to New Yorkers in need." I live in Rochester and
need Big Red hockey!
I don't see any reason that immunized hockey teams, including everyone associated withe the team, facilities, etc., wouldn't be safe to play.
Unfortunately fans are a different subject. It'll be interesting to see what happens with concerts this summer, as some are getting going.
In regards to yearly COVID boosters, I think it's almost guaranteed. Much of the third world has not really been able to get started with vaccinations, and that might take well into 2022 or even longer.
The comment that the longer we let the virus be around, the greater the chance of bad variants, is spot on. If one of the current variants gets changed a little more, it's likely to be at least more resistant to the current vaccines. So boom you are starting all over. Better to give a yearly booster to cover the known bad variants. COVID will likely be with us for many more years. We'll control it, but not eliminate it.
Regarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.
Quote from: Jim HylaI don't see any reason that immunized hockey teams, including everyone associated withe the team, facilities, etc., wouldn't be safe to play.
Unfortunately fans are a different subject. It'll be interesting to see what happens with concerts this summer, as some are getting going.
In regards to yearly COVID boosters, I think it's almost guaranteed. Much of the third world has not really been able to get started with vaccinations, and that might take well into 2022 or even longer.
The comment that the longer we let the virus be around, the greater the chance of bad variants, is spot on. If one of the current variants gets changed a little more, it's likely to be at least more resistant to the current vaccines. So boom you are starting all over. Better to give a yearly booster to cover the known bad variants. COVID will likely be with us for many more years. We'll control it, but not eliminate it.
Regarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.
I heard today Vietnam is asking the world for help obtaining vaccines. They need 150 M and only have 1 M. Without vaccines, that'd be one hot incubator for mutations. Uncle Ho's revenge.
Frankly, I don't understand why pundits and pols aren't making this point more forcefully. As long as the virus is running free, in Vietnam or Texas, we're playing with a ticking time bomb.
Quote from: Jim HylaRegarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.
Good point about manufacturers being different making it unlikely that the flu and COVID shots can be combined at least initially. The advantage of two shots is that I get my shots the pharmacy inside a nearby Safeway supermarket which gives me a coupon for 10% off on a grocery purchase, and with separate shots given on different days, I will get two coupons.:-D
this is one reason better testing needs to happen.. if you cant contain it with shots you have to have a method to track it and stop it from spreading. there was a ton of energy around that early with all kinds of ideas but very little has actually been created.. blood test, spit test, breathe test. need something faster and reproducible to slow the spread.
I knew that his name sounded familiar. Because he is on the same team as RPI recruit Tyler Hotson, I noticed that Mike Suda is in the PBHHInvitational Tourney. His page https://gamesheet.app/seasons/675/stats/players/388191. The tourney is supposedly designed to allow OHL players who didn't play all year to be seen by NHL scouts.
BTW, P, B, H, and H are the first letters of the last names of four people involved in the tourney.
Quote from: ursusminorBTW, P, B, H, and H are the first letters of the last names of four people involved in the tourney.
President Benjamin Harrison Home.
Actually, quite sweet.
(https://img2.10bestmedia.com/Images/Photos/290105/p-2.-Pres_55_660x440.jpg)
This is how you do a staircase:
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Nope. Try Andrew Perrott, Ryan Beck, Ryan Humphrey, and Brendan Hoffmann. https://www.goerie.com/story/sports/nhl/otters/2021/06/05/ohl-ontario-hockey-league-junior-hockey-showcase-takes-place-erie-pa-pennsylvania-nhl-draft-scouts/5200534001/ :-)
Future Red recruits Luke Devlin, Ben Robertson and Tyler Catalano all advanced to the final phase of the USA Hockey U17 tryouts for the Hlinka - Gretzky Cup. 40 players remain in the running to be selected for the team that will represent the US in the Czech Republic and Slovakia in August. This after a preliminary round robin tournament consisting of over 180 of the best '04's in the country. There are two scrimmages tomorrow and one on Wednesday to get down to the one team to compete overseas. Best of luck to these young men - if they make this team it would be a great experience for them. Very excited about the state of Cornell Hockey recruiting both with the men's and women's teams. Stick taps to the coaching staff who identify and recruit outstanding hockey players and even more importantly, good people!
Quote from: Redpucks1!Future Red recruits Luke Devlin, Ben Robertson and Tyler Catalano all advanced to the final phase of the USA Hockey U17 tryouts for the Hlinka - Gretzky Cup. 40 players remain in the running to be selected for the team that will represent the US in the Czech Republic and Slovakia in August. This after a preliminary round robin tournament consisting of over 180 of the best '04's in the country. There are two scrimmages tomorrow and one on Wednesday to get down to the one team to compete overseas. Best of luck to these young men - if they make this team it would be a great experience for them. Very excited about the state of Cornell Hockey recruiting both with the men's and women's teams. Stick taps to the coaching staff who identify and recruit outstanding hockey players and even more importantly, good people!
Only two make the final roster: Luke Devlin and Sean Schmidt.
Please don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.
Quote from: osorojoPlease don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.
What is this word
profits you are saying?
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: osorojoPlease don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.
What is this word profits you are saying?
He meant prophets and we also claim the religious exemption.
Any Cornellians likely to go in the Draft?
2 Cornell recruits are ranked by NHL Central Scouting - Justin Ertel is ranked #150 (NA skaters) & Remington Keopple is ranked #19 (NA goalies).
Thanks.
That goalie rank seems really good, I wonder how it compares with our prior goalies.
Ertel is likely to be drafted anywhere from the 5th to 7th rounds. Not sure if Keopple will be picked.
Harvard, as has been the norm lately, has a number of guys who will be drafted, including Matthew Coronato who will almost certainly be a 1st rounder. If it weren't for COVID Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum), would've been going into his sophomore year at Harvard. When the Ivies seem destined to be canceling their season last year he decided to go to Michigan.
Quote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
Somebody done fucked up. ::cuss::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
Somebody done fucked up. ::cuss::
Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.
Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.'s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey
Why cant we get a decent number of NHL draft picks :'(
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
Somebody done fucked up. ::cuss::
Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.
Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.'s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey
Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
Somebody done fucked up. ::cuss::
Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.
Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.'s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey
Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.
He was committed to Harvard last year and only switched to Michigan late last summer when it became apparent the Ivies were likely not playing hockey last season.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
Somebody done fucked up. ::cuss::
Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.
Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.'s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey
Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.
Thanks. I'm sure that I saw that, but I certainly don't recall it. BTW, it is amazing that 4 of the top 5 picks and one more in the first round are either Michigan players or commitments.
Quote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
In an interview during the draft last night, Ron Francis, Seattle GM, mentioned that Beniers comes from a highly academic family with both his parents majoring in engineering at Cornell.
Francis's daughter is also a Cornellian, so he obviously thinks highly of Cornell. While his daughter was in school and he was Carolina GM, he saw the Big Red play several times, which resulted in his trading for the draft rights to Riley Nash.
Red recruit Justin Ertel picked in the 3rd round (#79) by Dallas Stars
Does C.U.encourage and fund athletic programs to attract academic talent? I am ignorant of the correlation between the the two. Maybe a crossover between academic and athletic donors is the key to this conundrum.
Quote from: jkahnQuote from: scoop85Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)
In an interview during the draft last night, Ron Francis, Seattle GM, mentioned that Beniers comes from a highly academic family with both his parents majoring in engineering at Cornell.
Francis's daughter is also a Cornellian, so he obviously thinks highly of Cornell. While his daughter was in school and he was Carolina GM, he saw the Big Red play several times, which resulted in his trading for the draft rights to Riley Nash.
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if having an all-Cornell family was a bit of a turnoff for some recruits.
Yeah, go to Hahvahd just to stick it to Mom and Dad......
Quote from: CASRed recruit Justin Ertel picked in the 3rd round (#79) by Dallas Stars
Similar to Matt Steinberg, Ertel was drafted 3 or 4 rounds higher than projected.
Incoming D Hank Kempf just drafted by the Rangers in the 7th Round, pick #208.
Hank Kempf. Nice
Quote from: Chris H82Yeah, go to Hahvahd just to stick it to Mom and Dad......
This actually
would have been my wife and my reaction with our daughter.
Quote from: scoop85Incoming D Hank Kempf just drafted by the Rangers in the 7th Round, pick #208.
Drafted in the same round as his cousin, Stephen Baby, who was 7th Round, pick #188 in 1999.
Quote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
In this day and age...?
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: abmarksQuote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
In this day and age...?
In this day and age 40% will mean it positively.
And we
do have red hats.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/8076603002
An article like this hurts me deeply
Quote from: blackwidowhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/8076603002
An article like this hurts me deeply
Yes, but the one right below it should make you happy: Tyler Wishart is Westchester/Putnam Player of the Year.
"In just nine games this season, the forward had 22 goals and 11 assists to help lead John Jay to the Putnam/Northern Westchester championship in a season altered by the COVID-19 pandemic.
It was a fitting way to go out for a player whose skills are so pronounced that, as a sophomore, he was recruited by and committed to Cornell, one of the nation's top Division I collegiate programs."
Said he also "considered playing for the University of New Hampshire, Quinnipiac and Boston University."
Quote from: jeff '84Quote from: blackwidowhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/8076603002
An article like this hurts me deeply
Yes, but the one right below it should make you happy: Tyler Wishart is Westchester/Putnam Player of the Year.
"In just nine games this season, the forward had 22 goals and 11 assists to help lead John Jay to the Putnam/Northern Westchester championship in a season altered by the COVID-19 pandemic.
It was a fitting way to go out for a player whose skills are so pronounced that, as a sophomore, he was recruited by and committed to Cornell, one of the nation's top Division I collegiate programs."
Said he also "considered playing for the University of New Hampshire, Quinnipiac and Boston University."
Not that im wealthy or anything, but I wonder as an alum, if theres anything I could do to provide extra incensitives for potential recruits.
Quote from: blackwidowNot that im wealthy or anything, but I wonder as an alum, if theres anything I could do to provide extra incensitives for potential recruits.
Keeping in mind that I'm not your attorney, and none of this post should be construed as legal advice:
Recent court rulings and changes in NCAA regs mean that college athletes may now earn money from their name, image, and likeness. I'm of the opinion that this also means it should be relatively simple for a "booster" - who in the past would have been prohibited from giving anything of real value to a student-athlete or a recruit - to use those changes to provide such incentives. The easiest example I can think of is that any local business owner could just sign the athlete to an endorsement deal, which puts money in the athlete's pocket (or dangle the promise of such an endorsement deal to a recruit, presumably).
Time will tell whether that's actually how things are going to shake out.
I thought I read where boosters were expressly prohibited from engaging in NIL agreements
Quote from: Cop at LynahI thought I read where boosters were expressly prohibited from engaging in NIL agreements
I think Spartan combat associating with Cornell wrestling has made recruitment easier? Is something akin to this in hockey a possibility?
I agree - wish he had taken a closer look at Cornell. I got this comment on him from my brother a recently retired Taft teacher, who watched him play at Taft for 2 years.
Quote from: TedI was impressed with him during games. He is a superb skater and because he keeps his head up he is a good distributor. He committed to Harvard verbally when he was 15 years old. Like most kids with D1 talent, he departed after his junior year, ...
Quote from: profudgeI agree - wish he had taken a closer look at Cornell. I got this comment on him from my brother a recently retired Taft teacher, who watched him play at Taft for 2 years.Quote from: TedI was impressed with him during games. He is a superb skater and because he keeps his head up he is a good distributor. He committed to Harvard verbally when he was 15 years old. Like most kids with D1 talent, he departed after his junior year, ...
Is this regarding this player?
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/397836/christian-jimenez
Yes.
Today - Sunday August 1, 2021 is a big day in the college hockey calendar. 2005 birth year players can now commit to the college of their choice. (Harvard has two '05 commits already). Here's more from Chris Heisenberg.
https://twitter.com/CHeisenberg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Update - Harvard now up to 3 recruits already!:-(
If I become rich and end up having a lot of money to throw away, I would love to start an NHL franchise and bring an AHL affiliate somewhere close in upstate NY while providing a lot of awesome summer gigs for cornell hockey players (running summer camps and get richly rewarded) in order to make cornell hockey the most attractive D1 destination.
Quote from: blackwidowIf I become rich and end up having a lot of money to throw away, I would love to start an NHL franchise and bring an AHL affiliate somewhere close in upstate NY while providing a lot of awesome summer gigs for cornell hockey players (running summer camps and get richly rewarded) in order to make cornell hockey the most attractive D1 destination.
FWIW there are already three AHL franchises within 90 miles of Ithaca.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: blackwidowIf I become rich and end up having a lot of money to throw away, I would love to start an NHL franchise and bring an AHL affiliate somewhere close in upstate NY while providing a lot of awesome summer gigs for cornell hockey players (running summer camps and get richly rewarded) in order to make cornell hockey the most attractive D1 destination.
FWIW there are already three AHL franchises within 90 miles of Ithaca.
I meant having an ahl team affiliated with the NHL team for the sake of having them work closely. I suppose buying an AHL team nearby and encouraging some interaction between cornell hockey and the ahl team could also be beneficial as well and cost far less.
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: blackwidowIf I become rich and end up having a lot of money to throw away, I would love to start an NHL franchise and bring an AHL affiliate somewhere close in upstate NY while providing a lot of awesome summer gigs for cornell hockey players (running summer camps and get richly rewarded) in order to make cornell hockey the most attractive D1 destination.
FWIW there are already three AHL franchises within 90 miles of Ithaca.
I meant having an ahl team affiliated with the NHL team for the sake of having them work closely. I suppose buying an AHL team nearby and encouraging some interaction between cornell hockey and the ahl team could also be beneficial as well and cost far less.
I understood. My point was you could get a new NHL team and then create an affiliation with one of the
existing AHL teams. Because there's no place close to Ithaca that doesn't already have a team. Albany is probably the closest possibility.
Wasn't sure where to put this but just a heads up that Travis Mitchell is at the Boston Bruins development camp this week. The camp started this morning and runs through Friday.
Incoming mens freshman announced...
Here is a link to the roster (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster)
Team seems particularly large (physically) this year.
Of the 30 on the roster, only 4 players under 6' tall. 14 players 6'2" or taller...
I thought Muzyka split?
Quote from: TrotskyI thought Muzyka split?
Agreed, I figured Muzyka wouldn't be back after having only played 7 games in the NAHL. Must not have gotten a better offer, but I'd be surprised if he sees the ice. Speaking of walk-on dmen, Song is no longer on the roster, so that departure has been confirmed.
Quote from: margolismHere is a link to the roster (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster)
Team seems particularly large (physically) this year.
Of the 30 on the roster, only 4 players under 6' tall. 14 players 6'2" or taller...
Not gonna lie, I love seeing "Fifth Year" on three of those players, particularly on
those three players.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: margolismHere is a link to the roster (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster)
Team seems particularly large (physically) this year.
Of the 30 on the roster, only 4 players under 6' tall. 14 players 6'2" or taller...
Not gonna lie, I love seeing "Fifth Year" on three of those players, particularly on those three players.
Agreed. But I would love it if all the players who were affected from the next three classes also have the same option, and I do not think that is the case unless they didn't matriculate last year.
14 new players skating at once is, by historical standards, insane.
Largest effective (first year playing) entering classes (F/D/G) since freshmen became eligible.
14 2022 7/5/2
14 1993 9/4/1
14 1979 9/3/2
To give an idea of what first year classes looked like when freshmen couldn't play:
17 1976 10/6/1
15 1965 9/4/2
And let's not forget the greatest first year class ever:
19 1958 12/5/2
which is what happens when you start a program.
Wow... that team is enormous.
how does it compare to the other ivies is what matters. we need to compete with brown/princ/hard/yale to have a decent season.
We'll start slowish but we'll all be impressed and optimistic right around the end of January
just finish in the top 12 and make a run in the playoffs coach says
Quote from: upprdeckjust finish in the top 12 and make a run in the playoffs coach says
I hope fans are patient. It could easily be really ugly for a while. This is practically like a program reboot.
https://youtu.be/IRGmxLejt6I
Boston Bruins Director of Player Development Jamie Langenbrunner interview about this weeks development camp. Speaks highly of Travis Mitchell at about the four minute mark.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckjust finish in the top 12 and make a run in the playoffs coach says
I hope fans are patient. It could easily be really ugly for a while. This is practically like a program reboot.
I know you're worried, honeychild, but I still think you're going a bit overboard.
We're returning 4 experienced D and three lines. Considering our track record on attracting top goalies, I'm not all that concerned. We'll be at least in the middle of the pack by my reckoning.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckjust finish in the top 12 and make a run in the playoffs coach says
I hope fans are patient. It could easily be really ugly for a while. This is practically like a program reboot.
I know you're worried, honeychild, but I still think you're going a bit overboard.
We're returning 4 experienced D and three lines. Considering our track record on attracting top goalies, I'm not all that concerned. We'll be at least in the middle of the pack by my reckoning.
Plus I have to imagine the rest of the ECAC (at least, the rest that didn't play) are in the same boat. Harvard has their usual glut of (hopefully underperforming) draft guys, but other than that, it's all going to be a mess.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckjust finish in the top 12 and make a run in the playoffs coach says
I hope fans are patient. It could easily be really ugly for a while. This is practically like a program reboot.
"Have faith in Shaf!!!"
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
He will help us dominate the polls.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: abmarksQuote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
He will help us dominate the polls.
The only poll that matters is the final sol-- no.
Just no.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: abmarksQuote from: blackwidowHank Kempf. Nice
My immediate reaction was hearing opposition crowds cheering "mein Kampf" when the guy gets sent to the penalty box.
He will help us dominate the polls.
Fyp. You meant "Poles" right? ;?
Are you thinking of Polled Herefords? They hang around Bebee Lake.