Not that we didn't pretty much know before, but now it's official. All the conferences jointly made the decision to delay, and each individual conference will announce its own plans for the season.
delay and see how fball/testing/vaccine is coming end of oct, we started so much later anyway it wont change our prep much
"NC$$ announces they abdicate all responsibility in a difficult to read font."
It figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.
Quote from: French RageIt figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.
But we still have The Belt!
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/6655460-The-NCHC-says-it-hopes-to-start-college-hockey-season-on-or-after-Nov.-20
Quote from: French RageIt figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.
I mean, "champions for eternity" has a nice ring to it?
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
https://twitter.com/ep_transfers/status/1304607808772550656
Professional educators, athletic directors and college coaches got us into this mess. What we need is some investors and politicians to dictate college hockey schedules and policies.
Quote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?
https://www.uscho.com/2020/08/29/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-due-to-covid-19-including-allowing-players-to-stay-enrolled-in-college-and-play-junior-hockey/
Quote from: osorojoProfessional educators, athletic directors and college coaches got us into this mess. What we need is some investors and politicians to dictate college hockey schedules and policies.
"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."
"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."
Hey, look around. Running the country like a business worked GREAT for the U.S.A. - why not college hockey?
Quote from: osorojo"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."
Hey, look around. Running the country like a business worked GREAT for the U.S.A. - why not college hockey?[
Quote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
https://twitter.com/ep_transfers/status/1304607808772550656
Assume that the ncaa is allowing them to play juniors and then come back to ncaa?
From a fan perspective, I hope as many of our guys that have this option take it.
Quote from: FLHockeyMomQuote from: ugarteQuote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?
https://www.uscho.com/2020/08/29/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-due-to-covid-19-including-allowing-players-to-stay-enrolled-in-college-and-play-junior-hockey/
"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."
Also,
"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.
"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."
Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: FLHockeyMomQuote from: ugarteQuote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?
https://www.uscho.com/2020/08/29/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-due-to-covid-19-including-allowing-players-to-stay-enrolled-in-college-and-play-junior-hockey/
"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."
Also,
"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.
"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."
Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?
thx
Here's the teams announcement. (https://www.westkelownawarriors.ca/news-warriors-sign-avalanche-prospect-matthew-stienburg)
Quote from: Jim HylaHere's the teams announcement. (https://www.westkelownawarriors.ca/news-warriors-sign-avalanche-prospect-matthew-stienburg)
Money shot:
The West Kelowna Junior 'A' Hockey Club is excited to announce forward Matthew Stienburg('00) will join the Warriors until the Cornell season restarts. The commitment comes with the news that NCAA Ivy League will not be running their hockey programs until after the first semester. Matt is still enrolled in Cornell and will be attending classes online during his short time with the Warriors.Saul Goodman.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: FLHockeyMomQuote from: ugarteQuote from: FLHockeyMomJuniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?
https://www.uscho.com/2020/08/29/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-due-to-covid-19-including-allowing-players-to-stay-enrolled-in-college-and-play-junior-hockey/
"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."
Also,
"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.
"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."
Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?
All players now get extra year. I assume the ivy rules will still apply. http://collegehockeyinc.com/articles/2020/08/covid-impact-on-ncaa-rules.php
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
Quote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
I'm surprised. I always thought they were trying to Mini Me the ECAC.
Quote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
But when do real teams start? :P
Quote from: French RageQuote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
But when do real teams start? :P
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/16_NCHC-Announces-Return-For.php
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/06_Big-Ten-Shooting-For-Nov-.php
so 10 games over 21 days ? that seems like a lot?
most of the ecac could play games from mid Dec to mid Jan with few kids around and testing.. but a bubble might work too.. play 3 games someplace over a week and do it couple times..
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
But when do real teams start? :P
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/16_NCHC-Announces-Return-For.php
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/06_Big-Ten-Shooting-For-Nov-.php
It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.
Other than that, we don't matter.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
But when do real teams start? :P
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/16_NCHC-Announces-Return-For.php
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/06_Big-Ten-Shooting-For-Nov-.php
It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.
Other than that, we don't matter.
That begs a question I've been meaning to ask, since I can't figure out any obvious answer. Why are schools going out of there way to play sports when probably everything except power conference men's hoop and football are going to cost even more to run under covid than before without any care revenues at all to somewhat reduce the costs?
IDK, maybe it's no different than pre-covid?
Looks like Ivy hoops is in jeopardy, which doesn't bode well for other Ivy winter sports.
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1317541342906646529?s=21
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
Quote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is
yellow?
The fuck is red?
if its like cornell. people taking classes virtually dont count against the dashboard.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
well, it's just one elephant walk
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
The faces of the administration for letting students back on campus?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
TFIR is the new TBRW.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
TFIR is the new TBRW.
That's... actually brilliant.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".
Don't believe any nonsense about "herd immunity" or how it will protect hockey teams. If you or a hockey team are worried about being infected by Covid 19 you/they should immediately see your favorite politician for advice and treatment.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".
Or, better still, "herd mentality." Mooooo.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartethe entire yale men's hockey team has covid https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/10/15/yale-covid-19-alert-level-moved-back-to-yellow-amid-recent-outbreak/
18 positives is yellow?
The fuck is red?
Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".
Or, better still, "herd mentality." Mooooo.
"We are all individuals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY&ab_channel=anyolite)..."
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: abmarksQuote from: French RageQuote from: upprdeckI see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
But when do real teams start? :P
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/16_NCHC-Announces-Return-For.php
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/10/06_Big-Ten-Shooting-For-Nov-.php
It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.
Other than that, we don't matter.
That begs a question I've been meaning to ask, since I can't figure out any obvious answer. Why are schools going out of there way to play sports when probably everything except power conference men's hoop and football are going to cost even more to run under covid than before without any care revenues at all to somewhat reduce the costs?
IDK, maybe it's no different than pre-covid?
I understand why professional sports, even those very dependent on fans like European hockey, are trying to play however they can this year, since if they skip a whole season they might not come back. But most college sports could take the year off (from games at least) and then start up again in 2021-2022. It's an interruption for the student athletes, but then no college student(*) is having a typical college experience this year, whether their campus is open or not.
(*) Except the ones I'm teaching, who were mostly taking their courses online already anyway.
Mike had a ZOOM call last night with about 80 folks season ticket holders and CHA folks ... Made me want hockey back soon GBR!
But no new news at this time. Hoping they can start a season in January but unclear yet on situation or how.
The men's team now has captains (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/10/23/mens-ice-hockey-mens-hockey-tabs-mullin-as-captain.aspx). Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.
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Quote from: ACMThe men's team now has captains (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/10/23/mens-ice-hockey-mens-hockey-tabs-mullin-as-captain.aspx). Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.
Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82.Quote from: ACMThe men's team now has captains (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/10/23/mens-ice-hockey-mens-hockey-tabs-mullin-as-captain.aspx). Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.
Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
26 short of Hahvahd.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82.Quote from: ACMThe men's team now has captains (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/10/23/mens-ice-hockey-mens-hockey-tabs-mullin-as-captain.aspx). Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.
Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
26 short of Hahvahd.
I knew when I posted it, there was a Hahvard joke in there.
Never engage in a conversation with a Haahvaard fan who has been feasting on garlic knots!
WOW! Cornell Men's hockey just dropped from first to sixth place without even a scrimmage, let alone a game. These new computer programs are AWESOME!
Quote from: osorojoWOW! Cornell Men's hockey just dropped from first to sixth place without even a scrimmage, let alone a game. These new computer programs are AWESOME!
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Tangentially related only:
Quote from: WBNG NewsThe American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.
Quote from: profudgeTangentially related only:
Quote from: WBNG NewsThe American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.
I hope they misspelled 2022.
Now the 2020 - 2021 season starts in 2021?! That appears to violate our traditional concept of time, or the definition of the verb "starts"? Or maybe it's just Orwellian "newspeak" jumping over from politics to athletics.
dont alot of sports start in the spring? Lax 20-21 always started in 2021..
Quote from: osorojoThat appears to violate our traditional concept of time,
It's all been shit since McTaggart.
Quote from: profudgeTangentially related only:
Quote from: WBNG NewsThe American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.
There probably won't be any details in February either.
Cornell to host a Zoom webinar tomorrow evening on the subject "Calling an Audible – How College Athletics & Sports Programming have adapted to changing times." Must register in advance, at the link below.
Speakers:
• Jimmy Pitaro HumEc '91, Chairman, ESPN and Sports Content
• Moderator, Corinne Patten '92, CALS (Dyson), Women's Soccer, PepsiCo- Vice President National Account Sales
• Rob Ferguson, Head Coach, Cornell Women's Soccer
• Jonathan Plass AAP '22, Men's Track & Field. Home state: Pennsylvania
• Margaret Owen A&S '21, Senior, Women's Rowing, Captain. Home state: Connecticut
https://cornell.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_TYANketjTIy1aV6Eh3eeVw
CANCELLED !!!
Quote from: Cop at LynahCANCELLED !!!
Yep. Just saw it at Inquirer.com
It sucks, but I can't say it wasn't expected.
Ivy League announced today that winter season is cancelled for all sports:
https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/11/12/general-ivy-league-outlines-intercollegiate-athletics-plans-no-competition-for-winter-sports.aspx
Good luck to the rest of the ECAC for cobbling together a season. Guessing they won't be far behind in opting out.
I suspect that only RPI and Union will follow. The other four have released something.
Will be interesting to see if there is any change to the Lynah atmosphere due to an entire missed season. Assuming an equal distribution by class (probably not the case) a full half of the student section will have never been to a game next season as opposed to the usual 25%. Have to think there's a learning curve for the cheers and all that. Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.
Quote from: CU2007Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.
I hardly think students will be concerned about this once we get past the pandemic.
Quote from: CU2007Will be interesting to see if there is any change to the Lynah atmosphere due to an entire missed season. Assuming an equal distribution by class (probably not the case) a full half of the student section will have never been to a game next season as opposed to the usual 25%. Have to think there's a learning curve for the cheers and all that. Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.
OTOH maybe we can use this break to untrain the next batch of students in some of the worse crap that has accumulated. A Constitutional Amendment prohibiting remote control goaltender, for example.
Some new things are good. Some need to, so to speak, diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie.
Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.
https://twitter.com/SchlossmanGF/status/1329491245178220546
Quote from: jts15Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.
https://twitter.com/SchlossmanGF/status/1329491245178220546
SCHITT!!!
Quote from: rediceQuote from: jts15Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.
https://twitter.com/SchlossmanGF/status/1329491245178220546
SCHITT!!!
Well, assuming he's graduating this year he couldn't play at Cornell next year anyway.
It's definitely going down in the Ow My Balls Hall of Fame that Mike built a national championship caliber squad, only to see a once-per-century event melt it away.
But it's a fucking game and this is health and life.
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Quote from: jts15Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.
https://twitter.com/SchlossmanGF/status/1329491245178220546
Donaldson and Mullin in the transfer portal too.
Quote from: scoop85Well, assuming he's graduating this year he couldn't play at Cornell next year anyway.
Why the Ivy League couldn't suspend
this particular rule is just beyond me. It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year. In just this one, absolutely unique situation, what could
possibly be the harm!
Argh! Let it go, Scersk. Let it go.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: scoop85Well, assuming he's graduating this year he couldn't play at Cornell next year anyway.
Why the Ivy League couldn't suspend this particular rule is just beyond me. It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year. In just this one, absolutely unique situation, what could possibly be the harm!
Argh! Let it go, Scersk. Let it go.
What is the harm in kicking it altogether? Why encourage athletes to play for another school?
It's almost as if a pathetic cartel of long overrated, obsolete, privileged children of wealthy idiots is desperately maintaining arbitrary discriminators to bolster their fading branding, while the flop sweat of failsons drains into Cayuga's waters.
Quote from: Scersk '97It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year.
ha ha ha
Big East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.
I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.
Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Quote from: TroyfanBig East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.
I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.
Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.
Beyond forcing them to enter the transfer portal to play as grad students, it limits their grad school educational opportunities. With a few exceptions, most of the schools with college hockey teams, other than the Ivys, are not exceptional institutions when it comes to graduate programs. Perhaps Michagan, Wisconsin, Notre Dame are exceptions here. If education is truly a priority, then allow successful student athletes to use their final year of eligibility as grad students at any institution, including an Ivy institution.
Quote from: margolismBeyond forcing them to enter the transfer portal to play as grad students, it limits their grad school educational opportunities. With a few exceptions, most of the schools with college hockey teams, other than the Ivys, are not exceptional institutions when it comes to graduate programs. Perhaps Michagan, Wisconsin, Notre Dame are exceptions here. If education is truly a priority, then allow successful student athletes to use their final year of eligibility as grad students at any institution, including an Ivy institution.
this underrates a lot of good graduate programs across the country and overrates how important the grad program is to the player looking to play as a grad student
One of our favorite foes, Quinnipiac (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/11/22_Quinnipiac-Pauses-Activities.php), had to cancel its first two games and suspend all hockey activities due to positive Covid tests.
Ken Schott podcast (https://dailygazette.com/2020/11/20/the-parting-schotts-podcast-coronavirus-pandemic-affects-college-hockey-part-2/) with Coach Schafer and others. It's from last Friday.
St. Lawrence (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/11/23_St-Lawrence-Postpones-Games.php) has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!
Quote from: dbilmesSt. Lawrence (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/11/23_St-Lawrence-Postpones-Games.php) has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!
On the plus side, we're still undefeated.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: dbilmesSt. Lawrence (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/11/23_St-Lawrence-Postpones-Games.php) has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!
On the plus side, we're still undefeated.
i bet we'll still get dropped from the rankings
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: TroyfanBig East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.
I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.
Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.
"No reason" doesn't refer to covid per se. It means the impact of canceling hockey (and other sports) on reducing its spread. That it may be an overreaction and that less extreme measures may be just as good.
Quote from: TroyfanQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: TroyfanBig East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.
I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.
Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.
"No reason" doesn't refer to covid per se. It means the impact of canceling hockey (and other sports) on reducing its spread. That it may be an overreaction and that less extreme measures may be just as good.
As I wrote above...
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: dbilmesSt. Lawrence (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/11/23_St-Lawrence-Postpones-Games.php) has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!
On the plus side, we're still undefeated.
And we still have The Belt.
Rochester D&C article on the Cornell hockey season that will not be. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=245fed849)
To my annoyance, the D&C rarely acknowledges Cornell sports, not even mentioning Penfield's Lindsay Browning '21.
An interview with Mike. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=0168c1caa)
Quote from: George64Rochester D&C article on the Cornell hockey season that will not be. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=245fed849)
To my annoyance, the D&C rarely acknowledges Cornell sports, not even mentioning Penfield's Lindsay Browning '21.
Great article, but heartbreaking all the same.
Quote from: George64An interview with Mike. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=0168c1caa)
Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.
Well done by both interviewer and subject.
if anyone is missing live hockey, come to florida. The ECHL teams are playing and with fans:
www.BladesTix.com/Mike
According to our "governor" nothing going on here in Florida, nothing to worry about at all. business as usual people. UGH.
Florida never disappoints.
Quote from: Ritaif anyone is missing live hockey, come to florida. The ECHL teams are playing and with fans:
www.BladesTix.com/Mike
According to our "governor" nothing going on here in Florida, nothing to worry about at all. business as usual people. UGH.
I thought it was, "Nothing to see here (https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2020/12/07/rebekah-jones-coronavirus-scientist-dashboard-ron-desantis-florida-covid-19/6483753002/)." ::asshole:: (Your governor, not you.)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64An interview with Mike. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=0168c1caa)
Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.
Well done by both interviewer and subject.
And an update from Mike:
Hello Everyone:
Since March we have all had to watch COVID destroy lives, businesses, and families. It has wreaked havoc on people's plans, work and schooling. Having to tell our number one ranked team last year that we would not be finishing the season and then telling this year's team we would not play at all, were the hardest things I have had to do in my 25 year coaching career. Watching other teams play right now while our team has to sit out the season is difficult to swallow.
I recently spoke to someone who I respect a great deal. He tried to give me some perspective about the lives, business and institutions devastated by this terrible virus. He reminded me to put canceled seasons into the larger perspective. In many ways I agree with him. I am also mindful that we all face challenges in life and the focus must be on what we can impact.
There are things I've accepted during my career - Ivy practice and playing opportunities which are more limited than the NCAA allows, for instance - but I can no longer accept the negative impact of the Ivy rule regarding graduate student participation in varsity sports. The heartbreak I've witnessed in recent months has sharpened my resolve to do better by Ivy League student-athletes. Let me explain.
The NCAA has granted all fall and winter student-athletes an additional year of eligibility this year and our guys are obviously not using any eligibility since our 2020-21 season is canceled. Ivy League rules are more limiting than the NCAA rules and Cornell has lost five players because of restrictions on graduate student participation. Each case is unique, but the outcome so far is that seniors Matt Galdjda, Cam Donaldson and Tristan Mullin have all decided to transfer to play out their eligibility as graduate students elsewhere. In addition, two juniors, Mike Regush and Joe Leahy also decided to transfer after accelerating graduation plans because of the Ivy rule. All of these players have gone from playing a number one ranked national team to leaving the school, hockey program and the teammates that they loved. Their decisions to leave broke their hearts and mine. In their eyes, the Ivy League let them down by refusing any opportunity to continue to play here while they reclaimed eligibility from canceled seasons because of the pandemic.
The topic of Ivy graduate student eligibility has existed my entire career and I will push to keep the renewed debate alive. It confounds me that only our league will not support qualified student-athletes to pursue post-graduate educational and athletic goals. I will share updates on my efforts to affect change to serve our students and university.
Mike Schafer
mcs14@cornell.edu
607-327-1069
hnnnnghh
The ivy has some strange ideas on what makes a student athlete.. the inability to let kids play 5 yrs and get Grad degrees seems the opposite of what they stand for.
The count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Quote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
gonna be lots of quality kids floating around in 2 yrs as all these kids who get extra yrs will want to play somewhere and schools run out of scholies
Quote from: jeff '84Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64An interview with Mike. (https://rochesterdemocrat-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=0168c1caa)
Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.
Well done by both interviewer and subject.
And an update from Mike:
Hello Everyone:
Since March we have all had to watch COVID destroy lives, businesses, and families. It has wreaked havoc on people's plans, work and schooling. Having to tell our number one ranked team last year that we would not be finishing the season and then telling this year's team we would not play at all, were the hardest things I have had to do in my 25 year coaching career. Watching other teams play right now while our team has to sit out the season is difficult to swallow.
I recently spoke to someone who I respect a great deal. He tried to give me some perspective about the lives, business and institutions devastated by this terrible virus. He reminded me to put canceled seasons into the larger perspective. In many ways I agree with him. I am also mindful that we all face challenges in life and the focus must be on what we can impact.
There are things I've accepted during my career - Ivy practice and playing opportunities which are more limited than the NCAA allows, for instance - but I can no longer accept the negative impact of the Ivy rule regarding graduate student participation in varsity sports. The heartbreak I've witnessed in recent months has sharpened my resolve to do better by Ivy League student-athletes. Let me explain.
The NCAA has granted all fall and winter student-athletes an additional year of eligibility this year and our guys are obviously not using any eligibility since our 2020-21 season is canceled. Ivy League rules are more limiting than the NCAA rules and Cornell has lost five players because of restrictions on graduate student participation. Each case is unique, but the outcome so far is that seniors Matt Galdjda, Cam Donaldson and Tristan Mullin have all decided to transfer to play out their eligibility as graduate students elsewhere. In addition, two juniors, Mike Regush and Joe Leahy also decided to transfer after accelerating graduation plans because of the Ivy rule. All of these players have gone from playing a number one ranked national team to leaving the school, hockey program and the teammates that they loved. Their decisions to leave broke their hearts and mine. In their eyes, the Ivy League let them down by refusing any opportunity to continue to play here while they reclaimed eligibility from canceled seasons because of the pandemic.
The topic of Ivy graduate student eligibility has existed my entire career and I will push to keep the renewed debate alive. It confounds me that only our league will not support qualified student-athletes to pursue post-graduate educational and athletic goals. I will share updates on my efforts to affect change to serve our students and university.
Mike Schafer
mcs14@cornell.edu
607-327-1069
Regush and leahy? Hadn't seen this before. Where's they go?
It doesn't fundamentally matter where they have gone.
As a reader here forever, the typical response from the exalted members will certainly indicate the boorish stupidity to play anywhere but CU.
However, these kids at CU will all be paying for 4 years of school to play only 3, when they could all receive a quality education elsewhere on scholarship and still play 4.
These are weighty decisions for young men and their families, so lets not chirp about how it may impact your fandom. Its the IVY's fault.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
Ursaminor, is RPI allowing practice? Based on the shutdown of RPI's fraternities my guess is no.
Quote from: martyQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
Ursaminor, is RPI allowing practice? Based on the shutdown of RPI's fraternities my guess is no.
Ivy teams are allowed to practice and use training facilities. I think the Cornell teams have been practicing in small groups.
Quote from: martyQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
Ursaminor, is RPI allowing practice? Based on the shutdown of RPI's fraternities my guess is no.
They are not allowing it on Institute property. If the players want to pay themselves for ice time elsewhere, it is apparently OK. After seeing the trouble that schools who are playing are having with playing games, I can't complain about the season being cancelled, but I feel that the players should at least be allowed to practice in small groups. (BU will finally play its first game today if it is not cancelled at the last minute.)
BTW, it's ursusminor, not ursaminor. Thanks to someone here for pointing out to me close to 20 years ago that ursa, like alumna, is a feminine form. Much to my mother's chagrin, I was not required to study Latin for eight years. :-D
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceThe count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.
You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...
I know, I know, I'm shutting up.
Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1bThZfB-Y&ab_channel=sartists).
It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
Ursaminor, is RPI allowing practice? Based on the shutdown of RPI's fraternities my guess is no.
They are not allowing it on Institute property. If the players want to pay themselves for ice time elsewhere, it is apparently OK. After seeing the trouble that schools who are playing are having with playing games, I can't complain about the season being cancelled, but I feel that the players should at least be allowed to practice in small groups. (BU will finally play its first game today if it is not cancelled at the last minute.)
BTW, it's ursusminor, not ursaminor. Thanks to someone here for pointing out to me close to 20 years ago that ursa, like alumna, is a feminine form. Much to my mother's chagrin, I was not required to study Latin for eight years. :-D
Sorry about the name error. That lesson is likely the only Latin I'll ever learn.
RPI looks like a ghost town when we drive through.
Quote from: Noneya BusinessIt doesn't fundamentally matter where they have gone.
As a reader here forever, the typical response from the exalted members will certainly indicate the boorish stupidity to play anywhere but CU.
However, these kids at CU will all be paying for 4 years of school to play only 3, when they could all receive a quality education elsewhere on scholarship and still play 4.
These are weighty decisions for young men and their families, so lets not chirp about how it may impact your fandom. Its the IVY's fault.
You must not read too carefully on this forum or you'd see that I've not criticized a single player for leaving.
I actually give these guys credit for being able to make what must be a difficult decision to uproot and leave a team I'm sure they are deeply attached to. I'm sure they are making decisions that are in their best interests along with the input of their families and advisors.
Speaking for myself, I'm interested in where they are going and wish them well. And I suspect that most people who posed about the guys who leave will do the same.
Thanks for the pre-judgement. Perhaps NonyaBusiness should follow their own advice and not pontificate on other's motivations...because it's a f*#$@_ing message board and our motivations are NonyaBusiness.
Quote from: Noneya BusinessThese are weighty decisions for young men and their families, so lets not chirp about how it may impact your fandom. Its the IVY's fault.
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Every single person here knows this is the Ivy League's fault. But thank you for your brave words in defense of a controversial position every one of us takes for granted.
Quote from: Noneya BusinessIt doesn't fundamentally matter where they have gone.
As a reader here forever, the typical response from the exalted members will certainly indicate the boorish stupidity to play anywhere but CU.
However, these kids at CU will all be paying for 4 years of school to play only 3, when they could all receive a quality education elsewhere on scholarship and still play 4.
These are weighty decisions for young men and their families, so lets not chirp about how it may impact your fandom. Its the IVY's fault.
What does the Ivy League know that the Big 10 doesn't? About playing now or fifth year eligibility? If Cornell looked itself in the face honestly it would see it is more Big 10 than Ivy anyway. More Northwestern than Columbia, Michigan than Dartmouth. And that's fine. In hockey and in other ways Cornell has kept its eye on the wrong ball.
Comments like these were the ones I was referencing from exalted members: (You can insert your name as may or may not be appropriate - I didn't)
"Disappointing. My guess is he knows UMD is going to endanger their players but not sure if we are (spoiler: we are).
Welp. Fuck him."
"academically speaking it will be like falling off a cliff".
"The Cornell hockey players attend is almost never the Cornell you and I attended."
Quote from: Noneya Business"The Cornell hockey players attend is almost never the Cornell you and I attended."
Oh.
That's true, though. With very few exceptions athletes in major sports go through joke programs at the best universities. Cornell has joke majors.
How else would donors' kids get through?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Noneya Business"The Cornell hockey players attend is almost never the Cornell you and I attended."
Oh.
That's true, though. With very few exceptions athletes in major sports go through joke programs at the best universities. Cornell has joke majors.
How else would donors' kids get through?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMKXFeBNVU
There is a whole lot of not fair here, and as a lifelong fan, I feel it too.
I hate that there is no Cornell hockey to check in on here. Especially after last season right about now.
I don't know why I'm not checking out until October. Muscle memory or something.