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Title: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: andyw2100 on April 07, 2020, 11:39:50 AM
Schafer shares the award!

https://www.facebook.com/cornellsports/photos/a.161484377202910/3835474349803876/?type=3&theater

Edit to add link to actual story:
https://cornellbigred.com/news/2020/4/7/mens-ice-hockey-schafer-86-shares-national-coach-of-the-year-honors.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2gRJKmU2KmHu7D3HE6jxJ3GV-eMv6Ru7h--_FHyeV33EbJI2usOTgxdho
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: upprdeck on April 07, 2020, 11:43:28 AM
Would saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Scersk '97 on April 07, 2020, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: upprdeckWould saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?

It's Brad Berry from NoDak.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Give My Regards on April 07, 2020, 11:52:16 AM
Moderately fun fact:  This is only the second time there has been a tie for the Spencer Penrose award.  The other time, in 1966, Amo Bessone of Michigan State and Len Ceglarski of Clarkson shared the award.  Those two teams met in the NCAA championship game that year.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: andyw2100 on April 07, 2020, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: upprdeckWould saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?

If the above was directed at me, I had searched, and couldn't find it. There was nothing on USCHO or CHN.

If it was directed at whomever posted the Facebook story, I agree. :)
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: RichH on April 07, 2020, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: upprdeckWould saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?

If the above was directed at me, I had searched, and couldn't find it. There was nothing on USCHO or CHN.

If it was directed at whomever posted the Facebook story, I agree. :)

If it means anything, that info is in the first paragraph on the CU site: https://bit.ly/2Re9RDV
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 07, 2020, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: upprdeckWould saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?

If the above was directed at me, I had searched, and couldn't find it. There was nothing on USCHO or CHN.

If it was directed at whomever posted the Facebook story, I agree. :)
I took it as a knock on the story writer.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 07, 2020, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: upprdeckWould saying who he was a co-winner with be too much to add to the story?

It's Brad Berry from NoDak.
So this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: upprdeck on April 07, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
Yup sorry about that.. It was the facebook post i was wondering about
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 07, 2020, 12:57:13 PM
So, as I may have mentioned two or three trillion times, I hate retired numbers.

But when Mike finally hangs it up do we retire #3?  35 years or so with the program and counting.  That's pretty special.  He has basically given his life to Cornell hockey, and delivered so much.

I am connected with Mike's playing days since we almost exactly overlap, so it makes sense to me to honor all aspects of his contribution by celebrating him as the player who became the coach and then the legend.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 07, 2020, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: TrotskySo, as I may have mentioned two or three trillion times, I hate retired numbers.

But when Mike finally hangs it up do we retire #3?  35 years or so with the program and counting.  That's pretty special.  He has basically given his life to Cornell hockey, and delivered so much.

I am connected with Mike's playing days since we almost exactly overlap, so it makes sense to me to honor all aspects of his contribution by celebrating him as the player who became the coach and then the legend.

Given Mike's promotion of Cornell tradition and the fact that he makes every player research their number's history, I suspect if you asked him, he would prefer to not have his number retired.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 07, 2020, 10:54:04 PM
Obviously, if you asked him.

So don't ask him.  Just do it.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 08, 2020, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: TrotskyBut when Mike finally hangs it up do we retire #3?  35 years or so with the program and counting.  That's pretty special.  He has basically given his life to Cornell hockey, and delivered so much.

Not until we do something for Ned. The Harkness room just doesn't make it.

Without Ned, would we have had Schafer? Who knows, but for sure the path of the hockey program would have been a lot different.

Certainly Ned made the biggest change in the history of the program.

Second, we would really be honoring his coaching, not his playing. So retiring his number doesn't seem like the right thing to do.

I'd still like to see a Harkness statue and name the ice for Schafer. You can do that now, don't need to wait till he retires.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: upprdeck on April 08, 2020, 12:39:16 PM
we had a hard enough getting permission to put up a little bear statue..
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: ugarte on April 08, 2020, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: upprdeckwe had a hard enough getting permission to put up a little bear statue..
break a stick over the bear's head and call it a day
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 08, 2020, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyBut when Mike finally hangs it up do we retire #3?  35 years or so with the program and counting.  That's pretty special.  He has basically given his life to Cornell hockey, and delivered so much.

Not until we do something for Ned. The Harkness room just doesn't make it.

Without Ned, would we have had Schafer? Who knows, but for sure the path of the hockey program would have been a lot different.

Certainly Ned made the biggest change in the history of the program.

Second, we would really be honoring his coaching, not his playing. So retiring his number doesn't seem like the right thing to do.

I'd still like to see a Harkness statue and name the ice for Schafer. You can do that now, don't need to wait till he retires.

Rename the rink for Schafer.

Rename the university for Harkness.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: billhoward on April 08, 2020, 05:06:34 PM
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 08, 2020, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Ralph?  How about it?
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: ursusminor on April 09, 2020, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Ralph?  How about it?

Assuming that this was directed at me, what is your point?

BTW, are you going to update your post-season simulation?
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Trotsky on April 10, 2020, 01:24:33 AM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Ralph?  How about it?

Assuming that this was directed at me, what is your point?

BTW, are you going to update your post-season simulation?

Oh, fuck.

I totally forgot!
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 10, 2020, 07:33:17 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Ralph?  How about it?

Assuming that this was directed at me, what is your point?

BTW, are you going to update your post-season simulation?

Oh, fuck.

I totally forgot!

See what happens when you make CU lose.
Title: Re: Schafer Shares Penrose Award
Post by: ugarte on April 10, 2020, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskySo this makes the home and home in November a battle for the national championship and the Penrose.
The Penrose Belt
Ralph?  How about it?

Assuming that this was directed at me, what is your point?

BTW, are you going to update your post-season simulation?

Oh, fuck.

I totally forgot!

See what happens when you make CU lose.
Actually made it a perfect simulation.