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Title: Don Cherry fired
Post by: billhoward on November 12, 2019, 08:44:49 AM
85-year-old Don Cherry's time in hockey - player, coach, commentator - is done. He was fired from SportsNet after an on-air rant about immigrants' lack of appreciation, in his opinion, for being able to live in Canada. Speaking Saturday on Hockey Night in Canada, Cherry said the newcomers were too uncaring or too cheap to buy and a wear a poppy, Canada's symbol of remembrance for veterans: "You people... you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey, at least you can pay a couple bucks for a poppy or something like that."

Great story on the decline and fall of Cherry in the Toronto Globe and Mail:
Don Cherry, fired by Sportsnet, hated any changes to hockey – and his imaginary Canada (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/article-times-changed-but-don-cherry-wouldnt/?fbclid=IwAR0KbSeO2A9WTqOfqOYAnUzD7Mp3Zkg65sZQ17HHxZlXSpNG5oed2_Mp1PI)

Quote from: Cathal Kelly[Cherry] started out on the CBC in the early eighties. He quickly found his straight man in Ron MacLean. He learned the showman's trick of using costume to distract from content – because there wasn't much of the latter.

He continued to talk about a Canada in which everyone grew up near an iced-over pond and held the flag above all things. But Mr. Cherry's Canada was not an idyllic place. It was beset by the encroachment of foreign influence into our national game and our way of life.

In the end, what Mr. Cherry really hated – and he hated an awful lot of things – was change. He wanted hockey and Canada to remain just as they had been when he first got to know them. A man's game played by woodsy John Wayne types who could knock your teeth out on the rink and then help you raise a barn on the weekend.

His vision of masculinity suited this country for a time, when it felt itself weak. But now that Canada seemed to be getting the better of the 21st century, there was no need for Mr. Cherry's bantam rooster routine. It became provincial and gauche.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Cop at Lynah on November 12, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Another victim of the cancel culture
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Dafatone on November 12, 2019, 12:11:37 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: billhoward on November 12, 2019, 12:27:50 PM
The wardrobe was reason enough to move on.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Dafatone on November 12, 2019, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: billhowardThe wardrobe was reason enough to move on.

I liked the wardrobe.

I didn't like the constant whining that only Canadians were violent enough to really play hockey, and that's the only thing he did. Other than wear ridiculous suits.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: upprdeck on November 12, 2019, 01:35:46 PM
How many people are out of job now that he wont be buying all these wacky outfits?
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: nshapiro on November 12, 2019, 01:52:39 PM
All of those clothes are made in China, so they don't matter according to him.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Swampy on November 12, 2019, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: billhowardThe wardrobe was reason enough to move on.

He makes a good case for tariffs.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Trotsky on November 12, 2019, 02:15:18 PM
He was an idiot.  I doubt he realized most people were laughing at him, not with him.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: RichH on November 12, 2019, 02:16:43 PM
I just roll my eyes at any sports reporter who does the "LOOK AT ME AND MY GARISHLY OUTLANDISH CLOTHING, AREN'T I INTERESTING" thing. That goes for Cherry, Craig Sager (RIP), and even Ken Rosenthal's charity bow ties. Anyone can put on a clown suit. Very few are excellent in that field.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Trotsky on November 12, 2019, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: RichHI just roll my eyes at any sports reporter who does the "LOOK AT ME AND MY GARISHLY OUTLANDISH CLOTHING, AREN'T I INTERESTING" thing. That goes for Cherry, Craig Sager (RIP), and even Ken Rosenthal's charity bow ties. Anyone can put on a clown suit. Very few are excellent in that field.
They aren't even original.  They're all ripping off Lindsey Nelson (who actually was an excellent broadcaster).

As with Dump's inanities it's just a distraction from the lack of anything of substance.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: nshapiro on November 12, 2019, 02:46:25 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RichHI just roll my eyes at any sports reporter who does the "LOOK AT ME AND MY GARISHLY OUTLANDISH CLOTHING, AREN'T I INTERESTING" thing. That goes for Cherry, Craig Sager (RIP), and even Ken Rosenthal's charity bow ties. Anyone can put on a clown suit. Very few are excellent in that field.
They aren't even original.  They're all ripping off Lindsey Nelson (who actually was an excellent broadcaster).

As with Dump's inanities it's just a distraction from the lack of anything of substance.

I don't know.  I think Lindsey Nelson just had genuinely bad taste.  He wasn't dressing to impress (or offend).
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Trotsky on November 12, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: nshapiroI don't know.  I think Lindsey Nelson just had genuinely bad taste.  He wasn't dressing to impress (or offend).
According to Bob Murphy Nelson had impeccable taste.  Whenever they were on a road trip they'd scout the fashion shops for the worst possible jackets, and Nelson would turn most of them away saying "not loud enough."  I have no idea how the tradition started -- those things usually happen by accident -- but it was deliberate and first class trolling.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: billhoward on November 12, 2019, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhowardThe wardrobe was reason enough to move on.
He makes a good case for tariffs.
You're not supposed to have cats declawed. What is the rule about people who post?
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Trotsky on November 12, 2019, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: billhowardWhat is the rule about people who post?

Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Beeeej on November 12, 2019, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: Cop at LynahAnother victim of the cancel culture

To paraphrase Alex Winter, the term "Cancel Culture" is a bad faith fallacy. There's only Consequence Culture, and it's long overdue.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: BearLover on November 12, 2019, 10:53:45 PM
Don Cherry is a moron.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 13, 2019, 05:40:00 AM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Cop at LynahAnother victim of the cancel culture

To paraphrase Alex Winter, the term "Cancel Culture" is a bad faith fallacy. There's only Consequence Culture, and it's long overdue.
Well said.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: underskill on November 13, 2019, 11:34:52 AM
meh, Sportsnet has been trying to get rid of him for years; this just gave them an easy out.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: osorojo on November 14, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
At least Canadians never supported Don Cherry and his sissy bulldog for Parliament or Prime Minister, like Americans supported his soulmate in the U.S.A.
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Dafatone on November 14, 2019, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: osorojoAt least Canadians never supported Don Cherry and his sissy bulldog for Parliament or Prime Minister, like Americans supported his soulmate in the U.S.A.

Strictly speaking, Rob and Doug Ford were/are only Ontario politicians rather than national Canadian politicians, but...
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: underskill on November 14, 2019, 03:43:10 PM
Quote from: osorojoAt least Canadians never supported Don Cherry and his sissy bulldog for Parliament or Prime Minister, like Americans supported his soulmate in the U.S.A.

just a dude in blackface is all
Title: Re: Don Cherry fired
Post by: Trotsky on November 14, 2019, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: underskill
Quote from: osorojoAt least Canadians never supported Don Cherry and his sissy bulldog for Parliament or Prime Minister, like Americans supported his soulmate in the U.S.A.

just a dude in blackface is all
Oh, like who hasn't done that?

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