I thought I heard talk of a video board going in, but does anyone know more?
https://twitter.com/CornellVideo/status/1150786215525978113
Quote from: WederI thought I heard talk of a video board going in, but does anyone know more?
https://twitter.com/CornellVideo/status/1150786215525978113
I know how to boo.
I also know my own luddite-driven attachment to quaint, but antiquated touches in my most beloved places.
Y'know, I can remember when the "old" scoreboard was installed, so it can't really be THAT old, right?
RIGHT??
I'm sure the new scoreboard won't be at all patronizing to fans, blare ads, and/or be pitched to kids with microsecond attention spans and iPacifiers.
I'll take this, please.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/74/ed/1b/74ed1b1a9c1358c4242cb640e50843a4.jpg)
Agreed. The last thing I need is a scoreboard imploring me to "Make some Noise!!!!!!!" or "Get Loud!!!!"
Not to mention it probably won't show instant replays, so what's the bloody point?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Agreed. The last thing I need is a scoreboard imploring me to "Make some Noise!!!!!!!" or "Get Loud!!!!"
Not to mention it probably won't show instant replays, so what's the bloody point?
I'll actually bet that it does have a video board for replays. I get the nostalgia, but I think that would be useful.
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Agreed. The last thing I need is a scoreboard imploring me to "Make some Noise!!!!!!!" or "Get Loud!!!!"
Not to mention it probably won't show instant replays, so what's the bloody point?
I'll actually bet that it does have a video board for replays. I get the nostalgia, but I think that would be useful.
Time flies when you're.....an old guy who can't believe it's been
8 years. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLr9iF4WQo)
We miss the replays we would like to see the most at RPI. I'm not sure if it is a league rule (as I have seen the "rule" ignored during some non-league games) but we don't get to see replays during off ice reviews concerning penalties. One can see fans picking up cell phones to watch the
rpitv (https://rpitv.org/) live stream. They are often able to watch the potential infraction replay while those of us in the stands who aren't so quick or don't have unlimited data plans watch the replay in our heads.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Agreed. The last thing I need is a scoreboard imploring me to "Make some Noise!!!!!!!" or "Get Loud!!!!"
Not to mention it probably won't show instant replays, so what's the bloody point?
I'm sure the point is MOAR ADVERTI$ING!!!! (Volume intended)
I'm pretty sure the small red LED message section of the most recent scoreboard did show messages like "GET LOUD" But mostly said things like "Let's Go Red"
Quote from: martyQuote from: CU2007Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Agreed. The last thing I need is a scoreboard imploring me to "Make some Noise!!!!!!!" or "Get Loud!!!!"
Not to mention it probably won't show instant replays, so what's the bloody point?
I'll actually bet that it does have a video board for replays. I get the nostalgia, but I think that would be useful.
Time flies when you're.....an old guy who can't believe it's been 8 years. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLr9iF4WQo)
We miss the replays we would like to see the most at RPI. I'm not sure if it is a league rule (as I have seen the "rule" ignored during some non-league games) but we don't get to see replays during off ice reviews concerning penalties. One can see fans picking up cell phones to watch the rpitv (http://rptv.org) live stream. They are often able to watch the potential infraction replay while those of us in the stands who aren't so quick or don't have unlimited data plans watch the replay in our heads.
That makes some sense. I know there are times in other leagues / sports when they won't show a controversial called (or missed call) for fear that the crowd will get pissed off and cause problems. Interestingly, the withholding of the replay often just makes people angry anyways.
I think many will be happy with this and the other parts of the project too.
Quote from: upprdeckI think many will be happy with this and the other parts of the project too.
Other parts?
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: upprdeckI think many will be happy with this and the other parts of the project too.
Other parts?
retractable dome
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: upprdeckI think many will be happy with this and the other parts of the project too.
Other parts?
retractable dome
Doesn't he coach at Sucks?
A scoreboard with audio/visual capability will exacerbate interference with the crowd and further destroy the atmosphere. MLB is no longer even watchable at the ballpark because of the ubiquitous pumped in noise. A home run is immediately followed by the trite repetition of the song from The Natural, and crowds have come to be trained to not do anything themselves but wait to be prompted.
Hopefully all audio capability from the scoreboard will prove, ahem, faulty (https://cdn2.mhpbooks.com/2013/12/AnarchistCookbook.jpg) until the administration learns not to fuck with traditions or attempt to program the Faithful.
The best thing about the Lynah crowd has always been what happens when nothing is happening... the spontaneous cheering and trash talk that have now all been supplanted by scripted frat douchwaggling or long periods of smartphone zombie silence. The poor old place doesn't need a coup de grace.
...and get the hell off of my lawn!
Quote from: Roy 82...and get the hell off of my lawn!
I was shooting for Abe and the clouds.
there is more to the project than just the scoreboard
Quote from: upprdeckthere is more to the project than just the scoreboard
We gathered that. Would you mind sharing what the other parts of the project are?
That was the point of Al's "other parts" question.
tnx
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: upprdeckthere is more to the project than just the scoreboard
We gathered that. Would you mind sharing what the other parts of the project are?
That was the point of Al's "other parts" question.
tnx
Yes, this is the second time you've said there were other parts and not mentioned what they were, please enlighten us.
PM upperdeck for more details.
Framing for the new scoreboard is up (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo) and it's said that it'll be installed next week.
What are they doing with the seating behind this. Hard to be sure, but it looks like it'll be harder to look over the new scoreboard.
did they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
Quote from: upprdeckdid they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
Aren't those just folding chairs?
Quote from: upprdeckdid they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
The more I think about it, the more I expect there to be some terrible effort to awkwardly shoehorn some sort of VIP/Big Donor luxury private viewing/entertaining box in that end like those that exist at Clarkson, Quinnipiac, and RPI.
But that just the cynic in me.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckdid they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
Aren't those just folding chairs?
They are actual seats, and that is also an accessible-seating area.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckdid they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
The more I think about it, the more I expect there to be some terrible effort to awkwardly shoehorn some sort of VIP/Big Donor luxury private viewing/entertaining box in that end like those that exist at Clarkson, Quinnipiac, and RPI.
But that just the cynic in me.
I don't mind getting them all in one place...
(https://pics.me.me/come-inside-the-revolution-mom-fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-53905189.png)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: upprdeckdid they even sell all those seats the last few yrs? maybe they plan on sliding those 10 or so seats to the sides?
The more I think about it, the more I expect there to be some terrible effort to awkwardly shoehorn some sort of VIP/Big Donor luxury private viewing/entertaining box in that end like those that exist at Clarkson, Quinnipiac, and RPI.
But that just the cynic in me.
I don't mind getting them all in one place...
(https://pics.me.me/come-inside-the-revolution-mom-fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-53905189.png)
This from a guy named Trotsky. Hmmmm.
Makes ya think.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/238/807/8b7.jpg)
Video board is almost up. Hope they show some of what they can do with it. (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo)
I'm sure a spy on site could figure out the model number and then we could look at the product's marketing and specs.
Quote from: Jim HylaVideo board is almost up. Hope they show some of what they can do with it. (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo)
We may get that slowly rotating C-with-Bear, as on the football scoreboard. We may get a Clap-Clap-Stomp directive. There'll be something about the fish. We'll see Boatyard Grill. Bring 3D glasses and maybe we can see clips from Avatar.
It's up (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo)
Quote from: Jim HylaIt's up (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo)
Cripe,it's big. Bigger than at Schoellkopf?
Live action means for the first time I'll be able to see into the band corner.
Replays will be nice.
Advertising means I will be on board if somebody blows it to kingdom come before it's ever used.
Quote from: TrotskyLive action means for the first time I'll be able to see into the band corner.
Replays will be nice.
Advertising means I will be on board if somebody blows it to kingdom come before it's ever used.
It is interesting that the tweet lists things this way.
"When complete, the ALL digital board will become advertising panels, score and video (including live action and replays)!!!"
Quote from: Jim HylaIt is interesting that the tweet lists things this way.
"When complete, the ALL digital board will become advertising panels, score and video (including live action and replays)!!!"
Hoping they're just listed in alphabetical order, rather than priority...
the replay board is a on a 14x20" section in the corner.. the rest is for ads!!!
Quote from: upprdeckthe replay board is a on a 14x20" section in the corner.. the rest is for ads!!!
14 x 20"??? I'll try to remember my binoculors!! Geez!! Why bother?
Scoreboard is made by a company called Daktronics. Maybe one of you internet sleuths can find a picture of one of a similar size in use to give us an idea of what we might get.
Looks like they made RPI's new scoreboard(s). This article talks about the functionality. Replay would be nice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tvtechnology.com/.amp/news/rpi-hockey-to-install-daktronics-centerhung-video-scoreboard
Quote from: pfibigerLooks like they made RPI's new scoreboard(s). This article talks about the functionality. Replay would be nice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tvtechnology.com/.amp/news/rpi-hockey-to-install-daktronics-centerhung-video-scoreboard
2011 RPI replay. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLr9iF4WQo)
Quote from: CU2007Scoreboard is made by a company called Daktronics. Maybe one of you internet sleuths can find a picture of one of a similar size in use to give us an idea of what we might get.
My guess is it isn't a "scoreboard" at all. It's a video display (https://www.daktronics.com/en-us/products/video-displays) and a controller will push an image to it which includes the output of a scoreboard app.
That would mean they can simply push the video stream of gameplay to it in real time. They can do a lot of things as long as they have the rights. They could even hold viewing parties in the rink for away games.
Just announced a series with North Dakota and put up a video display made by Daktronics.
Very Dakota couple of weeks for Cornell hockey.
Call me when we get skating cheerleaders.
And blue chip forwards.
Quote from: CU2007Scoreboard is made by a company called Daktronics. Maybe one of you internet sleuths can find a picture of one of a similar size in use to give us an idea of what we might get.
Company web site https://www.daktronics.com/en-us/markets/sports/projects sports projects gallery.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: CU2007Scoreboard is made by a company called Daktronics. Maybe one of you internet sleuths can find a picture of one of a similar size in use to give us an idea of what we might get.
That would mean they can simply push the video stream of gameplay to it in real time. They can do a lot of things as long as they have the rights. They could even hold viewing parties in the rink for away games.
If it's like RPI's then yes. I requested improvements and they pasted the requested info over the video for our viewing enjoyment.
They should get clever during recruiting CGI'ing the recruit in as a player during Cornell game action. "This could be you."
I mean plus the hookers.
Quote from: TrotskyCall me when we get skating cheerleaders.
We had skating cheerleaders in '81 for a few games. They got booed off the ice.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyCall me when we get skating cheerleaders.
We had skating cheerleaders in '81 for a few games. They got booed off the ice.
I got there in 1981-2. I just missed Brock Tredway, too. :-(
I don't believe we've talked about the Auxillary Panels. (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo) Looks like there are 2 at the other end of the rink. I suspect those would be the only other ones.
I was wondering where they were going to go.. interesting location.. people standing and wearing hats is going to make that hard to see for most of the crowd..
Quote from: upprdeckI was wondering where they were going to go.. interesting location.. people standing and wearing hats is going to make that hard to see for most of the crowd..
But there's a "No Standing" sign! ::rolleyes::
Quote from: Jim HylaI don't believe we've talked about the Auxillary Panels. (https://twitter.com/CornellVideo) Looks like there are 2 at the other end of the rink. I suspect those would be the only other ones.
I don't see any pics of them. Are these just small boards to display the score, the time, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE IN THIS GENERATION! ads?
supposed to be ribbon boards.. not sure if these are it.. real time stats, imagine saves updated more than once a period.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: upprdeckI was wondering where they were going to go.. interesting location.. people standing and wearing hats is going to make that hard to see for most of the crowd..
But there's a "No Standing" sign! ::rolleyes::
And that's always been a no standing area. So it won't need significant enforcement.
Quote from: upprdecksupposed to be ribbon boards.. not sure if these are it.. real time stats, imagine saves updated more than once a period.
Ribbon boards are used almost exclusively for ads at most venues, except for when a goal is scored. Ugh.
people standing in the top row will be enough to block it for 75% of the people.
it took years to get the Dome to start putting real stuff on their ribbon boards. still not there yet
Quote from: upprdeckpeople standing in the top row will be enough to block it for 75% of the people.
Those are townie sections. It's unusual to have a lot of them standing.
Quote from: CU2007Scoreboard is made by a company called Daktronics. Maybe one of you internet sleuths can find a picture of one of a similar size in use to give us an idea of what we might get.
Daktronics is the major player in scoreboards. Also does other kinds of signage: video displays, digital billboards, dynamic message signs, transportation center signage. Half-billion-dollar company from South Dakota.
This thread count is approaching the decade's output of the Brown hockey forum. Or of Marty's RPI Student Union forum here on JSID.
Quote from: billhowardThis thread count is approaching the decade's output of the Brown hockey forum. Or of Marty's RPI Student Union forum here on JSID.
Shades of the 1994 hockey-l thread "the new popcorn stand at Mariucci will make the Gophers a perennial national powerhouse."
Eh.
https://twitter.com/CUBigRedHockey/status/1166423512023801858
Here are some stills. Note it has also been named.
https://twitter.com/CornellVideo/status/1166837076521902081
oh, F***.
That gets a firm meh from me. It's not absolutely horrible, but it contrasts from the rest of the rink pretty badly, and the dimensions make it awkward for replays, which is what I was most interested in.
We'll see. If it's used for advertising it's nothing industrial bolt cutters can't handle. Or perhaps a MANPAD just to be sure.
The wiggly, bouncy letters are a Very Bad Sign. Hopefully they'll read the demo better and class it up. This isn't a juniors game where you're aiming to please inattentive toddlers.
Quote from: TrotskyWe'll see. If it's used for advertising it's nothing industrial bolt cutters can't handle. Or perhaps a MANPAD just to be sure.
The wiggly, bouncy letters are a Very Bad Sign. Hopefully they'll read the demo better and class it up. This isn't a juniors game where you're aiming to please inattentive toddlers.
Have you met many of the incoming frosh?
"Great Win"
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyWe'll see. If it's used for advertising it's nothing industrial bolt cutters can't handle. Or perhaps a MANPAD just to be sure.
The wiggly, bouncy letters are a Very Bad Sign. Hopefully they'll read the demo better and class it up. This isn't a juniors game where you're aiming to please inattentive toddlers.
Have you met many of the incoming frosh?
First-years.
Quote from: billhowardThis thread count is approaching the decade's output of the Brown hockey forum. Or of Marty's RPI Student Union forum here on JSID.
Unlike the RPI thread, though, more than one person cares about this one.
The Rob Gemmell scoreboard? It should be missing a few lights in the middle! ::banana::
Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
Quote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
If (who am I kidding, when) they do that I recommend the fans (1) boo loud AF and (2) not buy
any concessions. Starve the fucks.
This lowest common denominator garbage is the bane of the universe and hitherto, with a few exceptions, we've somehow managed to keep Lynah clear of it. When whichever corporate assholes owned the Montreal Forum fired the organist and started piping in idiot music the Habs fans reacted so violently they were forced to reverse the decision.
The scoreboard should be used for scores, time, penalties, and replays. None of the rest of that insulting crap should
ever see the light of a pixel. Ithaca and Cornell are
way above that.
Quote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
In Troy we have the Jones, Hacker, Murphy Powerplay. (https://joneshacker.com/) The only consolation is that Jones is dopey enough to sit in section 7 once a year. A certain old fart gets to heckle the doofus. "Ice is slippery. "
Quote from: martyQuote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
In Troy we have the Jones, Hacker, Murphy Powerplay. (https://joneshacker.com/) The only consolation is that Jones is dopey enough to sit in section 7 once a year. A certain old fart gets to heckle the doofus. "Ice is slippery. "
Since they do a lot of criminal defense I'm amused they didn't sponsor the penalty... um...kill.::whistle::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
If (who am I kidding, when) they do that I recommend the fans (1) boo loud AF and (2) not buy any concessions. Starve the fucks.
Reminds me of "Subway sucks!"
I hope they prove me wrong, but I worry that today's kids don't have the nerve to execute a similar protest, nor might they know that there is anything to protest in the first place given that their lives have been so suffused with corporatism.
Quote from: TimVQuote from: martyQuote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
In Troy we have the Jones, Hacker, Murphy Powerplay. (https://joneshacker.com/) The only consolation is that Jones is dopey enough to sit in section 7 once a year. A certain old fart gets to heckle the doofus. "Ice is slippery. "
Since they do a lot of criminal defense I'm amused they didn't sponsor the penalty... um...kill.::whistle::
We do get the RBG powerplay on a given night each year.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Just feels like a prelude to "last minute of play brought to you by Cayuga medical center" and pushing the same intermission videos we see on the stream.
I bet there will be something unnecessary for when the team takes the ice too.
Blech.
If (who am I kidding, when) they do that I recommend the fans (1) boo loud AF and (2) not buy any concessions. Starve the fucks.
This lowest common denominator garbage is the bane of the universe and hitherto, with a few exceptions, we've somehow managed to keep Lynah clear of it. When whichever corporate assholes owned the Montreal Forum fired the organist and started piping in idiot music the Habs fans reacted so violently they were forced to reverse the decision.
The scoreboard should be used for scores, time, penalties, and replays. None of the rest of that insulting crap should ever see the light of a pixel. Ithaca and Cornell are way above that.
Here's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Quote from: billhowardHere's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Yes, things change. And half the time they get worse, and not everybody is going to just bend over for it.
The rape-level permeation of advertising into real life may not bother you, but it bothers many more observant and wise people.
So if you don't give a shit, welp, you're part of the dehumanization of our culture, so fuck you.
Students and townies should do everything they can to stop this kind of garbage.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardHere's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Yes, things change. And half the time they get worse, and not everybody is going to just bend over for it.
The rape-level permeation of advertising into real life may not bother you, but it bothers many more observant and wise people.
So if you don't give a shit, welp, you're part of the dehumanization of our culture, so fuck you.
Students and townies should do everything they can to stop this kind of garbage.
+1
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardHere's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Yes, things change. And half the time they get worse, and not everybody is going to just bend over for it.
The rape-level permeation of advertising into real life may not bother you, but it bothers many more observant and wise people.
So if you don't give a shit, welp, you're part of the dehumanization of our culture, so fuck you.
Students and townies should do everything they can to stop this kind of garbage.
I'm in favor of painting the boards white again and doing away with "The Boatyard Fan of the Game", but that ship has sailed.
Quote from: rediceQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardHere's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Yes, things change. And half the time they get worse, and not everybody is going to just bend over for it.
The rape-level permeation of advertising into real life may not bother you, but it bothers many more observant and wise people.
So if you don't give a shit, welp, you're part of the dehumanization of our culture, so fuck you.
Students and townies should do everything they can to stop this kind of garbage.
+1
+1 more!
Quote from: martyI'm in favor of painting the boards white again and doing away with "The Boatyard Fan of the Game", but that ship has sailed.
So to speak.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardHere's a man still unhappy The New York Times runs photographs in color.
Yes, the scoreboard will have dopey applications and fans will be urged to stand up, cheer, wave, not throw fish. But that's life. Things change. We get older. Today's freshmen - first-years - have different perspectives. They may like the scoreboard.
Yes, things change. And half the time they get worse, and not everybody is going to just bend over for it.
The rape-level permeation of advertising into real life may not bother you, but it bothers many more observant and wise people.
So if you don't give a shit, welp, you're part of the dehumanization of our culture, so fuck you.
Students and townies should do everything they can to stop this kind of garbage.
I have not yet made my peace with ads running before movie-theater movies. You pay ten dollars, it's to see a movie, not ads for soda and local car dealers. But I have stopped yelling, "Just how the bleeping movie."
We both probably say to ourselves, "Rage, rage against the dying of the light." Unless it's the goal lamp behind the opposition nets.
so get to the movie 15 min later and skip all the ads.. its been that way for 100+ years of movies.
I think being able to watch replays is a big enough upside that it outweighs all of the downsides.
Quote from: upprdeckso get to the movie 15 min later and skip all the ads.. its been that way for 100+ years of movies.
Or skip the movie and stream it on Kodi. If they can't take a joke, fuck 'em.
Agree with BearLover - looking forward to watching replays
Quote from: CASAgree with BearLover - looking forward to watching replays
Disagree. Mitigates penalties for phone distraction. "Now FoMO doesn't prevent me from soothing my FoMO!"
Whither intense concentration? Sacrificed on the altars of technology and commerce.
Quote from: BearLoverI think being able to watch replays is a big enough upside that it outweighs all of the downsides.
I like replays, but given the dimensions, the replays what will be kinda small.
I don't care for Lynah having bathrooms. Back in the days of Beebe Lake we just went in the woods. Now kids have to have fancy urinals with fancy corporate urinal cakes in them.
Quote from: French RageI don't care for Lynah having bathrooms. Back in the days of Beebe Lake we just went in the woods. Now kids have to have fancy urinals with fancy corporate urinal cakes in them.
You need bathrooms. Where else would you hide the chickens?
Quote from: French RageI don't care for Lynah having bathrooms. Back in the days of Beebe Lake we just went in the woods. Now kids have to have fancy urinals with fancy corporate urinal cakes in them.
You're right. Those socialist, free bathrooms? What a waste! Better to monetize them.
We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Those moments when I'm not sold to or exhorted to "just do it?" Man, I don't like them. I end up contemplating the emptiness of my existence. And that doesn't make me want to buy anything...
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: French RageI don't care for Lynah having bathrooms. Back in the days of Beebe Lake we just went in the woods. Now kids have to have fancy urinals with fancy corporate urinal cakes in them.
You're right. Those socialist, free bathrooms? What a waste! Better to monetize them.
We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Those moments when I'm not sold to or exhorted to "just do it?" Man, I don't like them. I end up contemplating the emptiness of my existence. And that doesn't make me want to buy anything...
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: French RageI don't care for Lynah having bathrooms. Back in the days of Beebe Lake we just went in the woods. Now kids have to have fancy urinals with fancy corporate urinal cakes in them.
You're right. Those socialist, free bathrooms? What a waste! Better to monetize them.
We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Those moments when I'm not sold to or exhorted to "just do it?" Man, I don't like them. I end up contemplating the emptiness of my existence. And that doesn't make me want to buy anything...
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
And, sometimes inside the urinals...
Quote from: CASAgree with BearLover - looking forward to watching replays
Bleh. You can watch replays when you get home.
I mean, there's already proof of what happens when you construct a video board by observing the crowd at Schoellkopf. As soon as the whistle blows, about 2900 heads will instinctively snap to that end of the ice to watch whatever visual noise/activity gets put on the TV. Most of our society are already conditioned to doing that. The fans will be quieter: There's less incentive to start chants and cheers, or even discuss the play with your neighbor when there's a digital babysitter. I'm fully expecting that he "buzz" level of Lynah will be even more reduced. They'll crank up the sound when they play the "BUY TICKETS TO RED HOT HOCKEY" commercials and take away more time from the band/cowbell/students. And by October of next year, more than half of the student sections will only know Lynah with a glowing TeeVee directing and commanding most of their attention.
I simply don't trust Andy's minions to show restraint with the new money-printing toy.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: CASAgree with BearLover - looking forward to watching replays
Bleh. You can watch replays when you get home.
I mean, there's already proof of what happens when you construct a video board by observing the crowd at Schoellkopf. As soon as the whistle blows, about 2900 heads will instinctively snap to that end of the ice to watch whatever visual noise/activity gets put on the TV. Most of our society are already conditioned to doing that. The fans will be quieter: There's less incentive to start chants and cheers, or even discuss the play with your neighbor when there's a digital babysitter. I'm fully expecting that he "buzz" level of Lynah will be even more reduced. They'll crank up the sound when they play the "BUY TICKETS TO RED HOT HOCKEY" commercials and take away more time from the band/cowbell/students. And by October of next year, more than half of the student sections will only know Lynah with a glowing TeeVee directing and commanding most of their attention.
I simply don't trust Andy's minions to show restraint with the new money-printing toy.
As usual Rich puts things more diplomatically than I.
Lynah has been the closest there is to a church for me, and hitherto it's escaped the worst of our shit-for-brains consumerist killing jar culture. If and when it dies it will be just one more corpse plowed under by the greedy idiocy that infects our public spaces.
When I build my time machine it won't be to kill Hitler but David Ogilvy.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Unconfirmed rumor that the new scoreboard has already been damaged. Apparently they didn't have the protective barriers up and it got smacked by a puck.
Quote from: Cop at LynahUnconfirmed rumor that the new scoreboard has already been damaged. Apparently they didn't have the protective barriers up and it got smacked by a puck.
Schadenfreude.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Exactly so.
If you are the
least bit on the spectrum audio advertising is a human rights violation.
Not only does it ruin everything outside your head, it makes it impossible to think coherently
inside your head. It's Harrison Bergeron.
Quote from: TrotskyIf you are the least bit on the spectrum audio advertising is a human rights violation.
Oh, I'd say a great many of us are at
least a bit on the spectrum...
Make that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
Quote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
Maybe it's not been just a scoreboard all along. Maybe it's a target.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
Maybe it's not been just a scoreboard all along. Maybe it's a target.
Or more likely, maybe it's a deflection.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: SwampyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
Maybe it's not been just a scoreboard all along. Maybe it's a target.
Or more likely, maybe it's a deflection.
Or maybe it's a klutz during intramurals
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: SwampyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
Maybe it's not been just a scoreboard all along. Maybe it's a target.
Or more likely, maybe it's a deflection.
Or maybe it's a klutz during intramurals
I heard a radio ad for Cornell Hockey this afternoon. Swear to god it contains the phrase "don't miss the new scoreboard'
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: Cop at Lynahi know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
God, I hope so. It hasn't been in the past.::bang::
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
got a lot of responses but if this is the tone i think it was meant to be it is the only one i'm crediting. if it is not in that tone, then i have to give it to swampy for telling the joke i thought david was telling.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
got a lot of responses but if this is the tone i think it was meant to be it is the only one i'm crediting. if it is not in that tone, then i have to give it to swampy for telling the joke i thought david was telling.
Well, I thought my joke was more subtle. David implied the team has been deliberately shooting at the scoreboard. Before submitting my post, I tried very hard to find a good graphic of a target on a screen to imply that it's the scoreboard that's
deliberately designed to double as a target.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Scoreboard theatrics, water balloon tosses and players who spent time signing autographs got our kids to like Triple-A baseball (Somerset Patriots) as much as going to see the Yankees.
That said I could see the Lynah Rink scoreboard devolving. Cornell is the Ivy League but some of the people who administer Cornell and staff it think at the lowest-common denominator. If you got into the Ivy League you don't need flashing signage telling you to stand up and cheer. One could see a warning, "Do not throw fish at the Harvard players," would lead to fish being tossed at the scoreboard or at Ted Donato.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
Some teams do better than others with noise in MLB. An organ is a nice touch. "EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS" is not.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: David HardingQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at LynahMake that two times the scoreboard has been hit with a puck and damaged
It's a start.
i know it's still the preseason but i really hope shooting accuracy is a point of emphasis going forward
Maybe it has been.
got a lot of responses but if this is the tone i think it was meant to be it is the only one i'm crediting. if it is not in that tone, then i have to give it to swampy for telling the joke i thought david was telling.
Well, I thought my joke was more subtle. David implied the team has been deliberately shooting at the scoreboard. Before submitting my post, I tried very hard to find a good graphic of a target on a screen to imply that it's the scoreboard that's deliberately designed to double as a target.
i made my ruling
Quote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB. An organ is a nice touch. "EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS" is not.
Well thank you for not making a Florida-Congressman joke.
Quote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB.
The ones who blare the bit from The Natural after a home homerun or walk off are the worst. It sucks all the actual excitement out of the moment and replaces it with cornball Disney generic treacle.
Just let the ambient crowd noise define the moment you fucking MBA assholes. Real life is captivating . It does not need your programmed lard.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB.
The ones who blare the bit from The Natural after a home homerun or walk off are the worst. It sucks all the actual excitement out of the moment and replaces it with cornball Disney generic treacle.
Just let the ambient crowd noise define the moment you fucking MBA assholes. Real life is captivating . It does not need your programmed lard.
Fun fact (spoilers): in the book, Roy Hobbs strikes out.
On your 2nd point, on some platforms of the MLB.tv service, you can choose home/away broadcasts for video, and for audio, you can select TV announcers, radio, Spanish language (if available), or
remove announcers completely and just have ballpark ambient sound. That last option may be the greatest feature in sports broadcasting since the yellow line technology.
So many options, be nice to have minimal announcements. Or text overlay with goal / assist. Penalty. New goalie. Announced attendance. Now that Cornell hockey finally has enough resolution you can tell who's on the ice, we don't need that.
Quote from: RichHOn your 2nd point, on some platforms of the MLB.tv service, you can choose home/away broadcasts for video, and for audio, you can select TV announcers, radio, Spanish language (if available), or remove announcers completely and just have ballpark ambient sound. That last option may be the greatest feature in sports broadcasting since the yellow line technology.
I discovered this during the Olympics. It is great. I want them to go to individual mic feeds so I can turn on PBP and turn off color. I would also like interactive technology where I can deliver electric shocks to the sideline reporter.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB.
The ones who blare the bit from The Natural after a home homerun or walk off are the worst. It sucks all the actual excitement out of the moment and replaces it with cornball Disney generic treacle.
Just let the ambient crowd noise define the moment you fucking MBA assholes. Real life is captivating . It does not need your programmed lard.
Fun fact (spoilers): in the book, Roy Hobbs strikes out.
On your 2nd point, on some platforms of the MLB.tv service, you can choose home/away broadcasts for video, and for audio, you can select TV announcers, radio, Spanish language (if available), or remove announcers completely and just have ballpark ambient sound. That last option may be the greatest feature in sports broadcasting since the yellow line technology.
Does anybody remember the NFL game back in 1980 where they had no announcers at all? They had graphics on screen and mics on the ref. That's it. It was wonderful.
As to all the music and noise, I remember hearing that the reason they played music during breaks in NHL games is because the radio and TV mics would pick up individuals in the crowd, including profanity yelled at the players. And I suppose by having piped in music, it prevents people from starting any cheers that are contrary to what management wants to hear.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB.
The ones who blare the bit from The Natural after a home homerun or walk off are the worst. It sucks all the actual excitement out of the moment and replaces it with cornball Disney generic treacle.
Just let the ambient crowd noise define the moment you fucking MBA assholes. Real life is captivating . It does not need your programmed lard.
Fun fact (spoilers): in the book, Roy Hobbs strikes out.
On your 2nd point, on some platforms of the MLB.tv service, you can choose home/away broadcasts for video, and for audio, you can select TV announcers, radio, Spanish language (if available), or remove announcers completely and just have ballpark ambient sound. That last option may be the greatest feature in sports broadcasting since the yellow line technology.
Someone did a special on that game, I think ESPN? As you'd expect, all the talking heads yammered about how terrible it was.
Does anybody remember the NFL game back in 1980 where they had no announcers at all? They had graphics on screen and mics on the ref. That's it. It was wonderful.
As to all the music and noise, I remember hearing that the reason they played music during breaks in NHL games is because the radio and TV mics would pick up individuals in the crowd, including profanity yelled at the players. And I suppose by having piped in music, it prevents people from starting any cheers that are contrary to what management wants to hear.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
This is common to far too many rinks... I often carry earplugs to rinks for that very reason... It's just plain offensive!!!
Come the Revolution we will strangle the last salesman with the entrails of the last marketeer.
(Don't worry. We'll do the bankers first.)
I was worried.
Quote from: David HardingA USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
... from what, the sex-drugs-rock 'n' roll years?
There's offensive and there's offensive. The latter being what your child's hockey bag smells like midway through the season. Or yours if you play pickup post-Cornell and sometimes forget to bring it in from the trunk and air out the contents.
Quote from: billhowardThere's offensive and there's offensive. The latter being what your child's hockey bag smells like midway through the season. Or yours if you play pickup post-Cornell and sometimes forget to bring it in from the trunk and air out the contents.
Jeez, The Crimson Band smells off key tonight, eh?
Quote from: rediceQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
This is common to far too many rinks... I often carry earplugs to rinks for that very reason... It's just plain offensive!!!
Yes, wish I had discovered these (https://www.musicianonamission.com/best-earplugs-for-musicians/) when I was at Cornell and had been smart enough to use them.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: rediceQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
This is common to far too many rinks... I often carry earplugs to rinks for that very reason... It's just plain offensive!!!
Yes, wish I had discovered these (https://www.musicianonamission.com/best-earplugs-for-musicians/) when I was at Cornell and had been smart enough to use them.
Worksite headphones (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N9YAAOSwawpXrB-W/s-l300.jpg) get the point across better. Also have that nice "I'm an introvert, I don't want to interact with you" feel.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyQuote from: rediceQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
This is common to far too many rinks... I often carry earplugs to rinks for that very reason... It's just plain offensive!!!
Yes, wish I had discovered these (https://www.musicianonamission.com/best-earplugs-for-musicians/) when I was at Cornell and had been smart enough to use them.
Worksite headphones (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N9YAAOSwawpXrB-W/s-l300.jpg) get the point across better. Also have that nice "I'm an introvert, I don't want to interact with you" feel.
Actually, a cell phone will have that same effect.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyQuote from: rediceQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
A USHL team plays at a rink just a few minutes away from us. I've seen several Cornell-bound players there. The hockey is enjoyable, but we very rarely go because they turn up the volume so loud that it is painful and I don't want any more hearing loss.
This is common to far too many rinks... I often carry earplugs to rinks for that very reason... It's just plain offensive!!!
Yes, wish I had discovered these (https://www.musicianonamission.com/best-earplugs-for-musicians/) when I was at Cornell and had been smart enough to use them.
Worksite headphones (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N9YAAOSwawpXrB-W/s-l300.jpg) get the point across better. Also have that nice "I'm an introvert, I don't want to interact with you" feel.
Actually, a cell phone will have that same effect.
Yeah, but my problem while at Cornell was not absence of earplugs at hockey games. I had friends who were in bands, and when I went to their shows -- as well as to those of strangers -- I would deliberately sit in front of the speakers. It created a sensory high after the show was over. Years later, when I went for a hearing test, the audiologist guessed that this is what I had done, because the portion of my hearing that's gone commonly goes due to this practice. Over time it worsened and became tinnitus. "Tinnitus ... can also result from prolonged exposure to excessively loud noise. (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/156286.php)" Today I still go to rock concerts and even stand by the speakers, but wearing musician's earplugs.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneSome teams do better than others with noise in MLB.
The ones who blare the bit from The Natural after a home homerun or walk off are the worst. It sucks all the actual excitement out of the moment and replaces it with cornball Disney generic treacle.
Just let the ambient crowd noise define the moment you fucking MBA assholes. Real life is captivating . It does not need your programmed lard.
Fun fact (spoilers): in the book, Roy Hobbs strikes out.
On your 2nd point, on some platforms of the MLB.tv service, you can choose home/away broadcasts for video, and for audio, you can select TV announcers, radio, Spanish language (if available), or remove announcers completely and just have ballpark ambient sound. That last option may be the greatest feature in sports broadcasting since the yellow line technology.
Does anybody remember the NFL game back in 1980 where they had no announcers at all? They had graphics on screen and mics on the ref. That's it. It was wonderful.
My recollection of that game is that the PA announcer overcompensated, however. (There was also the game where they experimented with only one announcer, but I think it was not good for his mental health.)
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
Some teams do better than others with noise in MLB. An organ is a nice touch. "EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS" is not.
I went to my first European hockey game in 10+ years last weekend, and I was reminded of how much of a better job they do here of using piped-in music to encourage rather than suppress audience participation. It also helps that the fan clubs have drums which they play basically throughout the game, leading cheers and songs. We were at the opposite end of the rink from the standing section, and it was still incredibly loud. (The two-year-old--attending her first hockey game--still decided it was a good environment to take a nap.)
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Scersk '97We should have screens above the urinals, obviously. And why not add ear-splitting advertisements, preferably with soulless techno: "This bathroom brought to you by Shortline! We gooooooooooo the distance!"
Apparently you haven't been to an NHL or AHL arena recently. You can be sure there will be ads above the urinals.
Actually, the visual ad creep doesn't bug me that much; indeed, I've chuckled at more than a few over-urinal ads. I can look at them or ignore them.
But audio ad creep and audio intrusions (like "Jock Jams" shoved into every stoppage) make me want to tear out patch cables and kick over amps. The idiots who think "it's just one short ad" or that they're "giving the people what they want" don't seem to realize that what they're actually doing is suppressing crowd involvement. And none of us can just "ignore them." That's not the way our ears work.
It's all anti-human.
Minor league baseball was basically ruined by this by around the late 90s.
Also Junior Hockey.
It's crept into MLB now, too. There has to be noise between EVERY pitch. The entire experience is now pitched to 6-year olds. I'm sure the algorithms (developed by Cornell HumEcies) show rats hit the feeder bar more frequently when bombarded by constant noise. God bless consumerism.
I assume symphonies now have piped in crowd noise and movie clips between movements.
Some teams do better than others with noise in MLB. An organ is a nice touch. "EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS" is not.
I went to my first European hockey game in 10+ years last weekend, and I was reminded of how much of a better job they do here of using piped-in music to encourage rather than suppress audience participation. It also helps that the fan clubs have drums which they play basically throughout the game, leading cheers and songs. We were at the opposite end of the rink from the standing section, and it was still incredibly loud. (The two-year-old--attending her first hockey game--still decided it was a good environment to take a nap.)
I've been to games in Korea, and it's similar. A fan club with drums at the end of the rink, and fairly organized cheers and limited music except for extended breaks. They also have a few cheerleaders at the fan club end.
Closing in on 150 posts. Reminds me of the pitch for Seinfeld and what the show was about.
Seinfield pitch (2:33) (https://youtu.be/jUWiv5r_CZw)
All of this brings to mind my hopes and prayers that the CU pep band has improved over last year's edition. In 50+ years of watching hockey at Lynah, last year's edition was the first to make me long for games WITHOUT a pep band. They were just plain "noise". Fingers crossed!!
Quote from: billhowardClosing in on 150 posts. Reminds me of the pitch for Seinfeld and what the show was about.
Seinfield pitch (2:33) (https://youtu.be/jUWiv5r_CZw)
It's called a DISCUSSION FORUM, Bill. I'm enjoying the talk here, too bad you aren't. You really want a thread of nothing, go read through the Harvard thread.
Is this a good time to mention that Seinfeld sucks?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardClosing in on 150 posts. Reminds me of the pitch for Seinfeld and what the show was about.
Seinfield pitch (2:33) (https://youtu.be/jUWiv5r_CZw)
It's called a DISCUSSION FORUM, Bill. I'm enjoying the talk here, too bad you aren't. You really want a thread of nothing, go read through the Harvard thread.
Not enough posts from Bill on that thread to qualify.
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"Who, me? I know lots of things. I know Carson City is the capital of Nevada!"
That's new? Did you learn it yesterday?
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"Who, me? I know lots of things. I know Carson City is the capital of Nevada!"
That's new? Did you learn it yesterday?
Everything was new once.