Brent Brekke was named Head Coach of the the St Lawrence Men's Ice Hockey team today.... Congrats, Brent!!!
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Quote from: rediceBrent Brekke was named Head Coach of the the St Lawrence Men's Ice Hockey team today.... Congrats, Brent!!!
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So we're basically colonizing the North Country. And we've already got Don Vaughan at Colgate, although his time as a Cornell assistant was long ago.
The bonus was St. Lawrence didn't have to pay relocation costs.
Quote from: Watertown Daily TimesBrekke was already living in Canton while he worked at Clarkson, so he has the bonus of getting his first head coaching job without having to uproot his family to another town.
"I've gone through some head coaching interviews over the years, this was the first time I was able to sleep in my own bed the night before the interview," Brekke said
I was about to say revolving-door tenure at St. Lawrence, three coaches in the last eight seasons. But that's Mark Morris 3 years, Greg Carvel 4 yeas, Joe Marsh in the last of his 26 years.
Not really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often
seemed like an opponent.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
I would assume that means he won't be reffing ECAC games anymore? To be honest, that's kind of a loss. Better than most.
Still... He'll hopefully bring the rank-and-file back into line and get them to start calling penalties again.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
I would assume that means he won't be reffing ECAC games anymore? To be honest, that's kind of a loss. Better than most.
Still... He'll hopefully bring the rank-and-file back into line and get them to start calling penalties again.
I'm of the mindset that I don't prefer to see too many penalties called... Just enough to keep the game under control.. A LOT of penalties ruins the flow of the game and puts far too much emphasis on PK & PP..
That can wear down certain players. Teams like ours, which routinely rolls four lines, is better off staying away from penalty situations (PK or PP).
As I occasionally yell out to the on-ice officials: "I didn't come here to watch YOU!!!"
Quote from: rediceQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
I would assume that means he won't be reffing ECAC games anymore? To be honest, that's kind of a loss. Better than most.
Still... He'll hopefully bring the rank-and-file back into line and get them to start calling penalties again.
I'm of the mindset that I don't prefer to see too many penalties called... Just enough to keep the game under control.. A LOT of penalties ruins the flow of the game and puts far too much emphasis on PK & PP..
That can wear down certain players. Teams like ours, which routinely rolls four lines, is better off staying away from penalty situations (PK or PP).
As I occasionally yell out to the on-ice officials: "I didn't come here to watch YOU!!!"
+1 on the last statement
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
I would assume that means he won't be reffing ECAC games anymore? To be honest, that's kind of a loss. Better than most.
Still... He'll hopefully bring the rank-and-file back into line and get them to start calling penalties again.
Feola wasn't the worst, but he had a tendency to ref based on game situation. Don't expect a lot of whistles from him if you're winning.
Quote from: DafatoneFeola wasn't the worst, but he had a tendency to ref based on game situation. Don't expect a lot of whistles from him if you're winning.
A pet peeve. If it's a penalty when you're behind, it should also be a penalty when you're ahead; similarly, if it's a penalty in the first, it should also be a penalty in the third (or overtime).
To respond a bit upthread, I'd rather prefer to see a lot more penalties called. I think we're faster, more fluid, and more talented than most of the teams we play. The more penalties called, the more room, generally, there will be for us to show off those skills.
Reffing to the score and calling fewer penalties mostly benefits weaker teams.
Not knowing anything "insidery" I really like them picking an ECAC referee for that job. He's going to understand.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
You've been waiting to use this line?
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
You've been waiting to use this line?
Nope. It just came to me spur of the moment.
Looks like team 61 (https://www.uscho.com/2019/06/19/illinois-still-banking-on-new-program-would-join-big-ten-if-rink-built-by-2022/) is just a matter of time.
No (https://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/draft) NC$$ players in the first round. I don't recall that happening since the 1990s. I guess some (many?) of those USHL guys could be commits.
Edit: yep (https://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/draft):
5 Turcotte, Wisconsin
9 Zegras, BU
12 Boldy, BC
13 Knight, BC
14 York, Michigan
15 Caulfield, Wisconsin
16 Newhook, BC
30 Beecher, Michigan
31 Johnson, Minnesota
Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
Quote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
Quote from: rediceQuote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
Maybe he wanted to get outta Dodge.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceQuote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
Maybe he wanted to get outta Dodge.
You must have heard about Elmira. Most want to get out of that "Dodge". I did, but I remained close enough for Cornell Hockey. That's unlikely to change.
Quote from: rediceQuote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
Maybe he found it too financially challenging, given that Michigan gives athletic scholarships.
Also, maybe we shouldn't feel too sorry for not having one of these first-rounders. It seems they don't start to add much value until they spend 2-3 years in the NC$$, at which point they jump to the pros. None of the schools on Trotsky's list even made the NC$$ tourney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NCAA_Division_I_Men%27s_Ice_Hockey_Tournament#Qualifying_teams) this year, whereas the only players on our team that went pro were three seniors (http://collegehockeyinc.com/pro-signings-2018-19-nhl-college-ncaa-free-agent.php). Most of this year's team will be back next fall, and hopefully our luck with injuries will be much better (regress towards the mean).
Quote from: rediceQuote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
I did my time in Chem E. at both schools. There is nothing that is not challenging about U. M.'s school of engineering. I also felt the positive atmosphere there had a benefit vs. the cutthroat need to get to med school at any cost bullshit that underlied so many of my chemistry courses at Cornell. Michigan also has many grad programs that are considered top 10.
Poison Ivy 101.
Quote from: martyQuote from: rediceQuote from: CU2007Looks like Beecher is from Elmira. Bummer
I spent most of my life in the Elmira area. I was deeply disappointed to hear that he chose Michigan. Perhaps Cornell was too educationally challenging.
I did my time in Chem E. at both schools. There is nothing that is not challenging about U. M.'s school of engineering. I also felt the positive atmosphere there had a benefit vs. the cutthroat need to get to med school at any cost bullshit that underlied so many of my chemistry courses at Cornell. Michigan also has many grad programs that are considered top 10.
Poison Ivy 101.
What's Beecher's major?
Harvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
Interesting decision. He was elected captain for this season and is a 3 time ECAC Hockey All-Academic selection. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/08/08/harvard-blueliner-captain-marino-leaves-crimson-signs-with-penguins/)
It is a two way deal for 2 years.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
Interesting decision. He was elected captain for this season and is a 3 time ECAC Hockey All-Academic selection. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/08/08/harvard-blueliner-captain-marino-leaves-crimson-signs-with-penguins/)
It is a two way deal for 2 years.
His rights had just been traded. I assume his new team had more of a need and offered more.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
On the USCHO Harvard thread they're already calling it a rebuilding year, and that thread is typically like a Redskins fan whose only question is how many points they'll win the NFC title game by. B-]
I never trust Harvard to suck, but if they do that's one less thing to worry about.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
On the USCHO Harvard thread they're already calling it a rebuilding year, and that thread is typically like a Redskins fan whose only question is how many points they'll win the NFC title game by. B-]
I never trust Harvard to suck, but if they do that's one less thing to worry about.
Good news is they are guaranteed to finish no worse than 4th place in the 2020 Beanpot.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
On the USCHO Harvard thread they're already calling it a rebuilding year, and that thread is typically like a Redskins fan whose only question is how many points they'll win the NFC title game by. B-]
I never trust Harvard to suck, but if they do that's one less thing to worry about.
Good news is they are guaranteed to finish no worse than 4th place in the 2020 Beanpot.
3rd.
Harvard can always be depended upon in an consolation game.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
On the USCHO Harvard thread they're already calling it a rebuilding year, and that thread is typically like a Redskins fan whose only question is how many points they'll win the NFC title game by. B-]
I never trust Harvard to suck, but if they do that's one less thing to worry about.
Good news is they are guaranteed to finish no worse than 4th place in the 2020 Beanpot.
There's a non-zero chance of another cheating/academic scandal (as in 2013) and enough players get kicked out this time to cancel the season.
A man can dream, can't I?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
On the USCHO Harvard thread they're already calling it a rebuilding year, and that thread is typically like a Redskins fan whose only question is how many points they'll win the NFC title game by. B-]
I never trust Harvard to suck, but if they do that's one less thing to worry about.
Good news is they are guaranteed to finish no worse than 4th place in the 2020 Beanpot.
There's a non-zero chance of another cheating/academic scandal (as in 2013) and enough players get kicked out this time to cancel the season.
A man can dream, can't I?
You want scandal? It's not hockey, but take a look at the logo on Jeffrey Epstein's chest on today's (Aug 9) Huffington Post. I think it says something like Ve-Ri-Tas.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
What a shame!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82You want scandal? It's not hockey, but take a look at the logo on Jeffrey Epstein's chest on today's (Aug 9) Huffington Post. I think it says something like Ve-Ri-Tas.
It was a JDate profile photo and was supposed to say Ve-Ri-Tasty.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
I assume you meant "They return a sophomore
G, a freshman
G, and a
senior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
I think they're okay in starting goalie, Gornet is pretty good. But it seems back-up is the question.
With 5 returning D, they played a total of 76 games in the 33 games season. Walsh and Rathbone with 33 each. So combined 10 games for the other 3.
The 3 entering freshmen are all well thought of, but obviously they need to prove themselves at this level.
Only having 2 D with any reasonable experience will at least make a difficult early season.
With the young D, they have to hope that Gornet, whom I'd suspect would have to start in the beginning of the season, keeps them in the early games.
After that you never know how young players will evolve.
Edit: They still list Marino as a captain, along with Krusko. I'd assume they will pick 1 or 2 assistant captains.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82You want scandal? It's not hockey, but take a look at the logo on Jeffrey Epstein's chest on today's (Aug 9) Huffington Post. I think it says something like Ve-Ri-Tas.
It was a JDate profile photo and was supposed to say Ve-Ri-Tasty.
I assume you mis-typed Jr-date.
Or maybe it was Freshman-date.
::yark::
After two seasons, Union's Morgan leaves Dutchmen for pro deal with EIHL's Giants (https://www.uscho.com/2019/08/10/after-two-seasons-unions-morgan-leaves-dutchmen-for-pro-deal-with-eihls-giants/)
"Last season, Morgan scored 14 goals among 26 points in 38 games. He was set to be the top returning scorer for Union in 2019-20."
So this means they lose 5 of top 7 scorers from last year, who combined for 57/78 goals and 132/177 points. And another returning player, Adams, 10/22, tore both anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments this summer.
Looks like scoring may be tough, at least in early season.
Quote from: Jim HylaAfter two seasons, Union's Morgan leaves Dutchmen for pro deal with EIHL's Giants (https://www.uscho.com/2019/08/10/after-two-seasons-unions-morgan-leaves-dutchmen-for-pro-deal-with-eihls-giants/)
"Last season, Morgan scored 14 goals among 26 points in 38 games. He was set to be the top returning scorer for Union in 2019-20."
So this means they lose 5 of top 7 scorers from last year, who combined for 57/78 goals and 132/177 points. And another returning player, Adams, 10/22, tore both anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments this summer.
Looks like scoring may be tough, at least in early season.
Union posted their incoming class last week. On paper, not a great group.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jim HylaAfter two seasons, Union's Morgan leaves Dutchmen for pro deal with EIHL's Giants (https://www.uscho.com/2019/08/10/after-two-seasons-unions-morgan-leaves-dutchmen-for-pro-deal-with-eihls-giants/)
"Last season, Morgan scored 14 goals among 26 points in 38 games. He was set to be the top returning scorer for Union in 2019-20."
So this means they lose 5 of top 7 scorers from last year, who combined for 57/78 goals and 132/177 points. And another returning player, Adams, 10/22, tore both anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments this summer.
Looks like scoring may be tough, at least in early season.
Union posted their incoming class last week. On paper, not a great group.
Not a great group with not a great coach at not a great rink. On paper I'm looking forward to holding up a newspaper at my next visit.
...
Neutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
Quote from: TrotskyNeutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
A 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
Quote from: billhowardA 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
Some jokes write themselves.
IMO, Neutral Zone overemphasizes quantity compared to quality. Also there are some errors in who is included although this has improved as the season progressed. E.g., for RPI, Simon Kjellberg is missing. For Cornell, they include Berard, B. Tupker, Malone, Stienburg, Muzyka, Malinski, Dirven, Mitchell, and Z. Tupker. (Ordered by given name.)
Quote from: ursusminorIMO, Neutral Zone overemphasizes quantity compared to quality.
That's why I re-ordered them by mean rating, not total points.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyHarvard loses (https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-sign-john-marino-to-a-two-year-entry-level-contract/c-308474402) a defenseman. They also lost recruits Ryan Del Monte and Cole Shepard who bolted to the CHL.
So, two senior D graduations, two junior D departures, and one senior (mostly starting) goalie graduation. They return a sophomore D, a freshman D, and a junior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
Going to be an interesting year in Alston, methinks.
I assume you meant "They return a sophomore G, a freshman G, and a senior backup (although probably pretty good) goaltender.
No, I meant what I wrote, but you got the gist.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyNeutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
A 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
To help interpret these scores, note that BC has the highest average at 4.28. Harvard's score is closer to BC's than to ours. In fact, the rest of the ECACHL is pretty closely clustered between Princeton's 3.82 and Union's 3.63.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyNeutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
A 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
To help interpret these scores, note that BC has the highest average at 4.28. Harvard's score is closer to BC's than to ours. In fact, the rest of the ECACHL is pretty closely clustered between Princeton's 3.82 and Union's 3.63.
So statistically it probably means that it's a lousy system, since it doesn't differentiate the classes that well. Albeit I don't know the real stats of their system.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyNeutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
A 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
To help interpret these scores, note that BC has the highest average at 4.28. Harvard's score is closer to BC's than to ours. In fact, the rest of the ECACHL is pretty closely clustered between Princeton's 3.82 and Union's 3.63.
So statistically it probably means that it's a lousy system, since it doesn't differentiate the classes that well. Albeit I don't know the real stats of their system.
Or the ECAC tends to sit in the middle of a normal distribution of talent for D-1, which seems reasonable to me.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaSo statistically it probably means that it's a lousy system, since it doesn't differentiate the classes that well. Albeit I don't know the real stats of their system.
Or the ECAC tends to sit in the middle of a normal distribution of talent for D-1, which seems reasonable to me.
I would guess it tends to fall somewhere in the middle of those 2, just like it does in football or basketball rankings.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyNeutral Zone's ranking of the ECAC incoming classes, average and number:
4.07 7 Harvard
3.82 7 Princeton
3.79 7 Yale
3.78 10 Quinnipiac
3.75 9 Cornell
3.71 7 Colgate
3.70 10 Brown
3.69 8 RPI
3.68 7 St. Lawrence
3.67 6 Clarkson
3.63 12 Union
3.50 6 Dartmouth
A 4.07 for Harvard freshmen. This calls for a punchline.
To help interpret these scores, note that BC has the highest average at 4.28. Harvard's score is closer to BC's than to ours. In fact, the rest of the ECACHL is pretty closely clustered between Princeton's 3.82 and Union's 3.63.
So statistically it probably means that it's a lousy system, since it doesn't differentiate the classes that well. Albeit I don't know the real stats of their system.
Or the ECAC tends to sit in the middle of a normal distribution of talent for D-1, which seems reasonable to me.
I'd hypothesize that the ECAC has its own normal distribution of talent, whose mean may differ from those of other conferences. Its variance seems rather narrow. Irrespective of what individual conference distributions are, the Central Limit Theorem implies that D-1 is also normally distributed. But without having more information, it's hard to tell where the ECAC lies compared to the rest of D-1.
Quote from: SwampyBut without having more information, it's hard to tell where the ECAC lies compared to the rest of D-1.
The more information is the interconference records, which suggests the conference talent means are ordered NCHC, HE, B1G, ECAC, WCHA, AH.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyBut without having more information, it's hard to tell where the ECAC lies compared to the rest of D-1.
The more information is the interconference records, which suggests the conference talent means are ordered NCHC, HE, B1G, ECAC, WCHA, AH.
Of course the issue of talent vs. ability comes into play in that the BC's and BU's of the world get multiple blue chip recruits who are 17 years old (and presumably top ranked) and then lose to a bunch of 23 years old mostly after thoughts on Quinnipiac.
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyBut without having more information, it's hard to tell where the ECAC lies compared to the rest of D-1.
The more information is the interconference records, which suggests the conference talent means are ordered NCHC, HE, B1G, ECAC, WCHA, AH.
Of course the issue of talent vs. ability comes into play in that the BC's and BU's of the world get multiple blue chip recruits who are 17 years old (and presumably top ranked) and then lose to a bunch of 23 years old mostly after thoughts on Quinnipiac.
This is true. Also, prospect rankings are warped by statistical factors such as the Bostonian Head Firmly Inserted within Anus Transform, which translates all prospects from within 30 miles of Brookline High School one full star higher than they deserve.
So, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
Quote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Priskie was a senior last year
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Priskie was a senior last year
Yes, but did he graduate?
Quote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Priskie was a senior last year
Yes, but did he graduate?
That I do not know, which is why I said only that he was a senior last year.
OK, thanks.
In any case, Morgan is the only non-frosh awardee to return.
The class of 2019 in the ECAC had a lot of great players, including guys that left early (like Angello and Donato). I've been meaning to look at the numbers of the more notable players but haven't gotten around to it.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Priskie was a senior last year
Yes, but did he graduate?
That I do not know, which is why I said only that he was a senior last year.
I was kidding... but the graduation hurdle at Q is likely a bit lower than for the ECAC as a whole so my money says he made it.
Quote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskySo, I was beginning to write up my TBRW Predictions for 2019-20 and in doing the Returning Awardees I noticed that every one of the 9 ECAC Awardees (All-ECAC, POTY, ROTY) has either graduated or signed except for Morgan Barron, Harvard ROTY D Casey Dornbach, and Quinnipiac All-ECAC D Chase Priskie.
Just to make sure, I googled Priskie.
He signed yesterday (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article234109947.html).
are you sure he didn't graduate?
QuotePirskie, listed at 5-11 and 192 pounds, finished with 116 career points (39 goals, 77 assists) in 154 collegiate games in four seasons and served as Quinnipiac's captain in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
Priskie was a senior last year
Yes, but did he graduate?
That I do not know, which is why I said only that he was a senior last year.
I was kidding... but the graduation hurdle at Q is likely a bit lower than for the ECAC as a whole so my money says he made it.
I believe it involves two fingers placed firmly on the inner wrist or just below the jaw line.
Colgate away tickets on sale. (https://tickets.vendini.com/ticket-software.html?t=tix&w=5a1628534edabc1103985a7233f9bd4a&vqitq=b502622e-f5de-486d-b34e-39b41efc6e84&vqitp=fb89e6d9-9a97-4ad5-a95f-7a979c947740&vqitts=1566476700&vqitc=vendini&vqite=itl&vqitrt=Safetynet&vqith=ffa973443f7f832de02cf25b383db0d6)
Quote from: TrotskyLooks like team 61 (https://www.uscho.com/2019/06/19/illinois-still-banking-on-new-program-would-join-big-ten-if-rink-built-by-2022/) is just a matter of time.
Chicago Tribune picks up the story (https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-illinois-ncaa-hockey-program-local-youth-20190820-bbaljmuj2vg2xkkliz2c2loiou-story.html)
Quote from: TribuneNationally, Illinois produces the fourth-most college hockey players behind Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts, but it is the only state among that group without a Division I program.
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: TribuneNationally, Illinois produces the fourth-most college hockey players behind Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts, but it is the only state among that group without a Division I program.
That seems... really hard to believe. New York? Wisconsin?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TribuneNationally, Illinois produces the fourth-most college hockey players behind Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts, but it is the only state among that group without a Division I program.
That seems... really hard to believe. New York? Wisconsin?
How many college hockey players have you seen from NYC? Upstate always has a few, but if I remember correctly, the Chicago area does a lot.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: David HardingQuote from: TribuneNationally, Illinois produces the fourth-most college hockey players behind Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts, but it is the only state among that group without a Division I program.
That seems... really hard to believe. New York? Wisconsin?
How many college hockey players have you seen from NYC? Upstate always has a few, but if I remember correctly, the Chicago area does a lot.
Tons of good players from Long Island
Heresy perhaps, but is there a site which rates coaching staffs or coaches of D-1 ECAC men's hockey teams, something beyond W-L? Yeah, it would be quite subjective, just like rating hockey players.
Since sports ahem "journalism" is Access Journalism I doubt anybody in media would risk doing that. The relationship between sports media and the coaches, SIDs, and ADs is one of deep and continuous fellatio.
Quote from: TrotskySince sports ahem "journalism" is Access Journalism I doubt anybody in media would risk doing that. The relationship between sports media and the coaches, SIDs, and ADs is one of deep and continuous fellatio.
What a sexist comment!
There are female ADs and coaches (probably). ::banana::
Quote from: TrotskySince sports ahem "journalism" is Access Journalism I doubt anybody in media would risk doing that. The relationship between sports media and the coaches, SIDs, and ADs is one of deep and continuous fellatio &/or cunnilingus.
FYP
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskySince sports ahem "journalism" is Access Journalism I doubt anybody in media would risk doing that. The relationship between sports media and the coaches, SIDs, and ADs is one of deep and continuous fellatio &/or cunnilingus.
FYP
Thanks. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates that.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskySince sports ahem "journalism" is Access Journalism I doubt anybody in media would risk doing that. The relationship between sports media and the coaches, SIDs, and ADs is one of deep and continuous fellatio &/or cunnilingus.
FYP
Thanks. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates that.
Much better!
RPI plays Brock University this weekend. I thought that some posters might find this Rensselaer-Brock history (https://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?135617-RPI-Hockey-2019-2020-Nordic-Combined&p=6833676&viewfull=1#post6833676) interesting. I do wonder what RPI's coach who is Canadian and the Canadian players will think.
Quote from: ursusminorRPI plays Brock University this weekend. I thought that some posters might find this Rensselaer-Brock history (https://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?135617-RPI-Hockey-2019-2020-Nordic-Combined&p=6833676&viewfull=1#post6833676) interesting. I do wonder what RPI's coach who is Canadian and the Canadian players will think.
Quote from: Rensselaer-Brock HistoryHe (Van Rensselaer) labored under several handicaps, notably the fact that some of the regular army officers under his command...simply refused to cooperate with him. Even worse, when the initial attack faltered and the commander tried to send reinforcements, many of the militia troops under his command refused to obey... based on the ground that the Constitution only required them to defend the territory within the boundaries of the United States, not to cross the boundary and take action on the other side.
Perhaps this explains oft missing-in-action offense of the Engineers.::bolt::
Ned Harkness managed to muster a decent offense at RPI?
Quote from: osorojoNed Harkness managed to muster a decent offense at RPI?
Well there's the Mike Adessa story too, but neither was a fan of history AFAIK. AIDNKAARPI.
Harvard gets commitment from 'world-class player,' NTDP standout Beniers (https://www.uscho.com/2019/10/09/harvard-gets-commitment-from-world-class-player-ntdp-standout-beniers/)
It's for next year and he does need to show that he can do it in college, but if he stays for more than 1 year, it could be bad for the rest of us.
Harvard's been able to do this sporadically. Donato has never shown the ability to get the most out of these players, so if he winds up expending quality ice time on a guy who leaves after a couple years and thus thwarts the development of the rest of his guys, great.
Give me 3 6th rounders over 1 first rounder.
Quote from: Jim HylaHarvard gets commitment from 'world-class player,' NTDP standout Beniers (https://www.uscho.com/2019/10/09/harvard-gets-commitment-from-world-class-player-ntdp-standout-beniers/)
It's for next year and he does need to show that he can do it in college, but if he stays for more than 1 year, it could be bad for the rest of us.
Quote"He's got a chance to be a world-class player, not just a good player,'' says Seth Appert,
::stupid::
Fun stat on how far behind the Ivies start with the late start. Providence's Jack Dugan, who got an assist in our NC$$ QF last year, already has 14 points this season.
Quote from: Jim HylaHarvard gets commitment from 'world-class player,' NTDP standout Beniers (https://www.uscho.com/2019/10/09/harvard-gets-commitment-from-world-class-player-ntdp-standout-beniers/)
It's for next year and he does need to show that he can do it in college, but if he stays for more than 1 year, it could be bad for the rest of us.
Jason mentioned on the USNDT pregame that both Berniers' parents went to Cornell.
Looking at the Ticketmaster page for Red Hot Hockey, it appears as though BU has barely sold a ticket on their side of the arena. There's a map function where you can pick specific seats and there are thousands and thousands available. Strange considering the BU games at MSG have all been very well attended by both fan bases in the past.
Comment by a Union fan during their game sums up their season so far:
QuoteI don't think you are supposed to do a line change when the puck is in your own end
St. Lawrence Pushes Back Return to Appleton to January (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/11/19_St-Lawrence-Pushes-Back-.php)
Apparently Harvard goalie Mitchell Gibson was injured in tonight's game.
Two Union sophomores are leaving the team.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/11/22_Pair-of-Union-Sophomores-.php
Quote from: TrotskyApparently Harvard goalie Mitchell Gibson was injured in tonight's game.
It looked like a simple butterfly move to make a save. He did look in pain as he was helped off the ice.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyApparently Harvard goalie Mitchell Gibson was injured in tonight's game.
It looked like a simple butterfly move to make a save. He did look in pain as he was helped off the ice.
Sounds like a groin. Not good for him.
Anybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program (https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/vermont/mens-hockey/2019-2020/)?
Quote from: TrotskyAnybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program (https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/vermont/mens-hockey/2019-2020/)?
yes. and I remember that line Perrin, Reid(?) and St. Louis. they were so damn quick.
and they there was the hazing scandal.......
Soon the Cambridge-Boston streets & roads will devolve into a permanent Gordian Gridlock and Boston-area athletes will have to walk to the airport carrying their hockey gear. The armada of corporate helicopters will preclude escape by air for lowly college-level athletes. Wait and see.
Quote from: TrotskyAnybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program (https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/vermont/mens-hockey/2019-2020/)?
An elephant never forgets.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyAnybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program (https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/vermont/mens-hockey/2019-2020/)?
An elephant never forgets.
+1
Watched the last part of the QU-Colgate game tonight. Colgate's got some jam on offense.
Quinnipiac? Best chances came on the power play, particularly one after a dive in the early 3rd.
And Michigan State takes down #3 Notre Dame 3-2 today!!
Not opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/11/25/uscho-com-presents-its-ncaa-division-i-plays-of-the-week-nov-22-23/)
Quote from: Jim HylaNot opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/11/25/uscho-com-presents-its-ncaa-division-i-plays-of-the-week-nov-22-23/)
Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?
I was thinking something very similar.
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: Jim HylaNot opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/11/25/uscho-com-presents-its-ncaa-division-i-plays-of-the-week-nov-22-23/)
Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?
If only......
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: Jim HylaNot opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week. (https://www.uscho.com/2019/11/25/uscho-com-presents-its-ncaa-division-i-plays-of-the-week-nov-22-23/)
Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?
That was my reaction.
Yale getting throttled at BC, although I don't think that game means very much for the pairwise. Certainly doesn't help the conference
I wasn't sure where to put this post (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/11/27_Between-the-Lines-The-Good.php), but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.
Quote from: dbilmesI wasn't sure where to put this post (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/11/27_Between-the-Lines-The-Good.php), but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.
That is interesting but I have a question about the numbers.
My understanding is that HYP got serious about full financial support for Mere Mortals in two stages. In Stage I they made tuition (and perhaps expenses) virtually free for the Poors. I don't know the timeline so I'm guessing in the 90s. The other five with our smaller endowments took a long, long time to catch up, perhaps because we couldn't afford it, perhaps because the degree of enlightenment in the tier 2 Ivies is roughly equivalent to a 1850s plantation owner with a well-stocked library he never visits. But finally, begrudgingly the other 5 caught up just in time for...
... Stage II, in which HYP just said fuck it and filled in the Middle Class donut hole. If you were Plutey McFuckface you still had to pay full freight but otherwise tuition became a fiction like MSRP: a number you use for bragging rights with no real world meaning (since the only people who ever pay it can find it in their couch).
And Stage II is a place where the other 5 either cannot or will not go, ever.
Now, maybe our fine hockey recruits are covered disproportionally by Stage I and so this won't impact the program. Although hockey in the States not beginning with "M" has become dominated by rich assholes, in Canada it still seems to be a Great Leveler, like drinking and unrestrained political violence. Hypothetically. Hope so, because if we're fighting over what Joan Williams calls PMEs ("professional-managerial elites" -- the people who get Cornell degrees so the rich will pay them to run the shit they own; you know... us), we are going to lose to HYP because they are now subsidizing them.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: dbilmesI wasn't sure where to put this post (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/11/27_Between-the-Lines-The-Good.php), but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.
That is interesting but I have a question about the numbers.
My understanding is that HYP got serious about full financial support for Mere Mortals in two stages. In Stage I they made tuition (and perhaps expenses) virtually free for the Poors. I don't know the timeline so I'm guessing in the 90s. The other five with our smaller endowments took a long, long time to catch up, perhaps because we couldn't afford it, perhaps because the degree of enlightenment in the tier 2 Ivies is roughly equivalent to a 1850s plantation owner with a well-stocked library he never visits. But finally, begrudgingly the other 5 caught up just in time for...
... Stage II, in which HYP just said fuck it and filled in the Middle Class donut hole. If you were Plutey McFuckface you still had to pay full freight but otherwise tuition became a fiction like MSRP: a number you use for bragging rights with no real world meaning (since the only people who ever pay it can find it in their couch).
And Stage II is a place where the other 5 either cannot or will not go, ever.
Now, maybe our fine hockey recruits are covered disproportionally by Stage I and so this won't impact the program. Although hockey in the States not beginning with "M" has become dominated by rich assholes, in Canada it still seems to be a Great Leveler, like drinking and unrestrained political violence. Hypothetically. Hope so, because if we're fighting over what Joan Williams calls PMEs ("professional-managerial elites" -- the people who get Cornell degrees so the rich will pay them to run the shit they own; you know... us), we are going to lose to HYP because they are now subsidizing them.
Wow, that was a really well written article and incredibly educational (at least for me). Also enjoyed your follow-up, Trotsky.
Cornell has adopted a program where it matches the financial aid awards of the other Ivy League schools, Stanford, MIT, & Duke. This program is for all students, not just athletes. So if a hockey recruit wants to attend Cornell but received a better financial aid package from Harvard, Cornell will match the Harvard package. This will enable the recruit to play in front of the Lynah Faithful, not empty seats.
Quote from: CASCornell has adopted a program where it matches the financial aid awards of the other Ivy League schools, Stanford, MIT, & Duke. This program is for all students, not just athletes. So if a hockey recruit wants to attend Cornell but received a better financial aid package from Harvard, Cornell will match the Harvard package. This will enable the recruit to play in front of the Lynah Faithful, not empty seats.
My understanding is slightly different. In that Stanford, MIT, Duke, Harvard, Princeton, Yale instituted a program that uses their large endowments to give much bigger financial assistance than previously - for all students. This obviously impacted athletics favorably. The other Ivies had to get approval from the Ivy League that it was OK to match these awards without it being considered athletic scholarships in any way.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: CASCornell has adopted a program where it matches the financial aid awards of the other Ivy League schools, Stanford, MIT, & Duke. This program is for all students, not just athletes. So if a hockey recruit wants to attend Cornell but received a better financial aid package from Harvard, Cornell will match the Harvard package. This will enable the recruit to play in front of the Lynah Faithful, not empty seats.
My understanding is slightly different. In that Stanford, MIT, Duke, Harvard, Princeton, Yale instituted a program that uses their large endowments to give much bigger financial assistance than previously - for all students. This obviously impacted athletics favorably. The other Ivies had to get approval from the Ivy League that it was OK to match these awards without it being considered athletic scholarships in any way.
Both Stanford (https://facts.stanford.edu/campuslife/athletics/) and Duke provide athletic "scholarships," many of which are full ride.
The match is of need-based scholarships. The Ivies offer only need-based scholarships
Quote from: CASThe match is of need-based scholarships. The Ivies offer only need-based scholarships
Yes, of course. Yale, Princeton, Harvard decided to give much more in need-based aid than they had before. The other Ivies were not doing that. The Ivy League allowed the other Ivy athletic programs to match their aid packages. I know there's more to it than this.
BC vs Harvard worth the watch on ESPN+.
Indeed. BC with 3 goals in 1:48. Very wide open game
Quote from: IcebergIndeed. BC with 3 goals in 1:48. Very wide open game
Wasn't until it was. Third should be fun.
Quote from: martyBC vs Harvard worth the watch on ESPN+.
Watching the Harvard info-mercial made my pine for East Hill Car Wash.
Quote from: martyQuote from: martyBC vs Harvard worth the watch on ESPN+.
Watching the Harvard info-mercial made my pine for East Hill Car Wash.
On NESN Harvard must have paid for the coverage. About 75% of non-game time spots are highlights from Harvard athletics over the past 30 years.
BC 4 / Harvard 2. Harvard is no longer undefeated.
Northern Michigan is down 3-0 in the first at Alabama-Huntsville.
Alabama-Huntsville is 0-11-1.
Bad night for the ECAC.
Harvard lost by 2 to BC. RPI lost by 4 to Lowell (shut out). St. Lawrence lost by 3 to Maine. Quinnipiac lost by 3 to UMass (shut out).
Colgate managed to win their game. They played Princeton.
Quote from: TrotskyNorthern Michigan is down 3-0 in the first at Alabama-Huntsville.
Alabama-Huntsville is 0-11-1.
Not any more. Alabama-Huntsville won 4-2.
Meanwhile, #1 Minnesota State keeps chugging along, beating Minnesota Duluth, at Duluth, 4-1.
Quote from: SwampyBC 4 / Harvard 2. Harvard is no longer undefeated.
I remember hearing the Harvard goalie left the last game with what looked like a groin injury. Any updates on him? Did that impact the BC game?
Read that Harvard goalie - Mitchell Gibson - was dressed for game but didn't play.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: SwampyBC 4 / Harvard 2. Harvard is no longer undefeated.
I remember hearing the Harvard goalie left the last game with what looked like a groin injury. Any updates on him? Did that impact the BC game?
when the wheels fell off for harvard at the end of the second period there was nothing their backup goalie could do about it
The goaltender played fine from what I saw. Harvard's coaching lost them that game
BU up 4-1 over Harvard with 6 min left.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioBU up 4-1 over Harvard with 6 min left.
5-2 final, as Harvard scored a late PP goal, followed by a BU empty netter. Right after Harvard's 2nd goal they missed a wide open net that would've made things really interesting.
We got some help tonight and nearly got more:
(1) Mankato defeated Lake State
(2) Cornell defeated Harvard
(3) North Dakota defeated Western Michigan (ot)
(4) Denver lost to Arizona State
(5) Clarkson DNP
(6) Pedo State lost to Michigan
(7) Ohio State defeated Minnesota (ot)
(8) Northeastern DNP
(9) Notre Dame lost to (10) BC
For some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
Quote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
The announcer typically has to take a break between periods. My understanding is that he makes it down to the concession stand..... to serve the Coke and hot cocoa.
Quote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
And Brown got shutout 4-0 to no one's surprise. Hard to believe that arena was the same place Bob Marley had one of his last concerts
Yale and Princeton did win their games, so it's a net positive in regard to OOC record I guess. Still a few more OOC games involving ECAC teams coming up
Quote from: martyQuote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
The announcer typically has to take a break between periods. My understanding is that he makes it down to the concession stand..... to serve the Coke and hot cocoa.
IINM Eddie Shore used to actually do this, but I' sure he also spat in the cocoa.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
The announcer typically has to take a break between periods. My understanding is that he makes it down to the concession stand..... to serve the Coke and hot cocoa.
IINM Eddie Shore used to actually do this, but I' sure he also spat in the cocoa.
Oh, Piss on Eddie Shore!::popcorn::
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
The announcer typically has to take a break between periods. My understanding is that he makes it down to the concession stand..... to serve the Coke and hot cocoa.
IINM Eddie Shore used to actually do this, but I' sure he also spat in the cocoa.
Oh, Piss on Eddie Shore!::popcorn::
Old time hockey?::smashfreak::
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: dbilmesFor some strange reason, I turned on the UMass-Brown game, which is currently airing on NESN. I have never seen such an empty rink. There appear to be more people on the ice then in the stands.
The announcer typically has to take a break between periods. My understanding is that he makes it down to the concession stand..... to serve the Coke and hot cocoa.
IINM Eddie Shore used to actually do this, but I' sure he also spat in the cocoa.
Oh, Piss on Eddie Shore!::popcorn::
via GIPHY
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Sort of opponents news, and nice to boot.
Harvard honors BC coach Jerry York (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/12/19/harvard-honors-coach-jerry-york-late-announcer-andy-jick/tZJG0xKJ8bkHdhbVHgFd7L/story.html)
Not exactly "news," but an interesting look at Union's And Yale's declining fortunes (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/12/06_Bumps-In-the-Road.php) since their NCs.
"Bumps in the Road"
The Yale fan and the Quinnipiac fan might say the headline understates.
If I was within a decade of an NC, I could still live with some bumps.
Colgate up on Ohio State 2-1 midway through.
Quote from: TrotskyColgate up on Ohio State 2-1 midway through.
Didn't last. OSU 3 Colgate 2, Final.
Harvard kicking the snot out of Arizona State. Good.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard kicking the snot out of Arizona State. Good.
And Vermont wins their first of the year beating Union 2-0 (including an empty net goal). Union now 57 in the PWR!::banana::
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyColgate up on Ohio State 2-1 midway through.
Didn't last. OSU 3 Colgate 2, Final.
OSU also beat them Saturday 3-0. Friday in Vegas should be a very good game.
basically Colgate was up 1 and down 1 going into the 3rd and gave up 2 goals both games and lost.
Harvard went up 3-0 in the second game but ASU tied it 4-4.
In case anyone is interested, Tom Reale came out of hibernation to post a list of RPI's top ten games (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2019/12/the-top-10-greatest-rpi-games-of-2010s.html) of the last 10 years. I guess that he has some time on his hands since he lost his mayoral bid. It includes one game vs. Cornell.
Quote from: ursusminorIn case anyone is interested, Tom Reale came out of hibernation to post a list of RPI's top ten games (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2019/12/the-top-10-greatest-rpi-games-of-2010s.html) of the last 10 years. I guess that he has some time on his hands since he lost his mayoral bid. It includes one game vs. Cornell.
Interesting, though not surprising, that RPI won all ten games. Sometimes your team can lose a great game, as in Cornell's triple-overtime loss to Wisconsin in the 2006 NC$$ regionals.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: ursusminorIn case anyone is interested, Tom Reale came out of hibernation to post a list of RPI's top ten games (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2019/12/the-top-10-greatest-rpi-games-of-2010s.html) of the last 10 years. I guess that he has some time on his hands since he lost his mayoral bid. It includes one game vs. Cornell.
Interesting, though not surprising, that RPI won all ten games. Sometimes your team can lose a great game, as in Cornell's triple-overtime loss to Wisconsin in the 2006 NC$$ regionals.
There are a loss and a tie among the five honorable mentions at the bottom.
never mind.
instead let's talk about Harvard in free fall and RPI beating Clarkson in Potsdam.
Quote from: ugartenever mind.
instead let's talk about Harvard in free fall and RPI beating Clarkson in Potsdam.
Of course, RPI will probably follow that with a loss to SLU tomorrow.
When Cornell plays in Potsdam, do the refs seem quite biased for the home team?
Quote from: ugartelet's talk about Harvard in free fall
Mitchell Gibson left that game after the second period at 3-1. His backup Cameron Gornet gave up 3 on 10 shots.
Don't look now but the third place ECAC team by pct is Colgate.
Don't look now, too, but Quinnipiac outscored Harvard and Dartmouth by a combined score of 11-2 this weekend.
Quote from: dbilmesDon't look now, too, but Quinnipiac outscored Harvard and Dartmouth by a combined score of 11-2 this weekend.
They're also #16 in PWR. Clarkson is #14.
N Mich is top 20 now as well.
big home series to finish off the oc.
Quote from: upprdeckN Mich is top 20 now as well.
big home series to finish off the oc.
Am I correct in saying that Cornell's OOC schedule has been better than it looked on paper before season started?
Quote from: JasonN95Quote from: upprdeckN Mich is top 20 now as well.
big home series to finish off the oc.
Am I correct in saying that Cornell's OOC schedule has been better than it looked on paper before season started?
::burnout::
Spartans 4 Goofers 1
Quote from: SwampySpartans 4 Goofers 1
Excellent! Go Sparty!
North Dakota down 4-2 to Omaha after 2.
Quote from: andyw2100North Dakota down 4-2 to Omaha after 2.
Shots are 21-8 NoDak at the moment. That's a mighty fine shooting percentage for the Mavs...
Quote from: andyw2100North Dakota down 4-2 to Omaha after 2.
4-3 w/ about 12 min. to go in the 3rd.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: andyw2100North Dakota down 4-2 to Omaha after 2.
4-3 w/ about 12 min. to go in the 3rd.
Audio here:
https://fightinghawks.com/watch/?Live=1263&sport=8&type=Live
2:35 remaining. Time Out.
Extra attacker as play starts.
ENG - 5-3!
Another ENG. 6-3, 25 seconds left.
And it ends that way! I imagine we should take over first in pairwise.
Quote from: andyw2100I imagine we should take over first in pairwise.
Yep.
OSU up on Wisconsin 4-2 with about 5 minutes left in the 3rd.
OSU wins it, 4-2.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: andyw2100I imagine we should take over first in pairwise.
Yep.
First in Krach as well
Quote from: SwampySpartans 4 Goofers 1
MSU has #1 SOS using KRACH rankings.
Yale gets blown out 7-0 at MSG in perhaps the largest margins of loss by any team in the conference this season. And BU goes up to Hanover and blows a 3-0 lead within 2 minutes and then a 4-3 lead within 1 minute to wind up with a loss, although one of the BU goals will probably wind up on ESPN.
Miami 2 NDak 0 after 1:49 of the first!
Quote from: 75erMiami 2 NDak 0 after 1:49 of the first!
Ends 4-4. Rankings unlikely to change.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: 75erMiami 2 NDak 0 after 1:49 of the first!
Ends 4-4. Rankings unlikely to change.
Looks like pairwise did. Red #2.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: SwampyQuote from: 75erMiami 2 NDak 0 after 1:49 of the first!
Ends 4-4. Rankings unlikely to change.
Looks like pairwise did. Red #2.
It's a little odd that we tied a better team than the one NDak tied and they passed us, but I suppose our opponents and our opponents' opponents might've had a bad day.
And Dartmouth beats Clarkson. So we're now 1 point back with 2 games in hand. A little more comfortable.
We've also played a lot fewer games than NoDak, so our tie drops our own winning percentage a bit more than NoDak's tie drops theirs.
Quote from: RobbWe've also played a lot fewer games than NoDak, so our tie drops our own winning percentage a bit more than NoDak's tie drops theirs.
You also get more credit (these days) for a road tie than a home tie
Quote from: adamwQuote from: RobbWe've also played a lot fewer games than NoDak, so our tie drops our own winning percentage a bit more than NoDak's tie drops theirs.
You also get more credit (these days) for a road tie than a home tie
As it should be
Michigan St beat Wisco last night, 4-0. Nice having two wins against the first place team in the Big Ten.
Quote from: JasonN95Michigan St beat Wisco last night, 4-0. Nice having two wins against the first place team in the Big Ten.
Even better, two road wins
North Dakota and Minnesota State both pulled out late come-from-behind wins tonight. (North Dakota went ahead with just over a minute left in the third and then added an empty-netter, and Minnesota State won in OT.)
Back to 2 in PWR as the Brownian motion of RPICH continues.
Impressive completing our difficult non-league schedule unbeaten
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: Jim HylaNot really an opponent, well sort of, Feola Named Director of Officiating (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2018-19/News/20190603_-_Directors_of_Officiating)
I don't know...he's often seemed like an opponent.
a) cheap line, Jeff, and obvious
b) you beat us to it
ESPN+ has been great in part because of being able to jump to other ECAC contests live or zip through a replay later to check out the highlights. Tonight we get a chance to see Arizona State at Clarkson; I'm looking forward to seeing just how good the independent AZ St is. (Hopefully Clarkson can win for league prestige and PWR bump sake.)
Clarkson beats ASU in ot on a nice opportunistic steal and "greasy" goal.
Quote from: TrotskyClarkson beats ASU in ot on a nice opportunistic steal and "greasy" goal.
And right now they're up to 7 in the PWR with OSU losing to the Goofers in the 3rd.
Interesting: Tonight in HEA and B10, the PWR favorites went 0-5-1, including losses by #5 BC, #6 OSU, #8 UMass, and #9 PSU. The only favorite not to lose was #49 Merrimack tying #50 UVM.
UMD leads NoDak 4-3 after 2.
Now 5-3 with 11:33 left
Now 6-3 with 8:06 left.
FINAL 7-4 Minnesota-Duluth over NoDak
Quote from: RobbInteresting: Tonight in HEA and B10, the PWR favorites went 0-5-1, including losses by #5 BC, #6 OSU, #8 UMass, and #9 PSU. The only favorite not to lose was #49 Merrimack tying #50 UVM.
Whale of a game at the low end of PWR. I looked at the box, and UVM lead Merrimack 4-1 midway through the second, MER gets it to 4-4 by the end of the period. UVM goes up a goal in the third and MER ties it up in the last few minutes.
Quote from: RobbInteresting: Tonight in HEA and B10, the PWR favorites went 0-5-1, including losses by #5 BC, #6 OSU, #8 UMass, and #9 PSU. The only favorite not to lose was #49 Merrimack tying #50 UVM.
I took a look at the bu - lowell box. saw bu scored 5 in the third period including three on the same major.
Not an "opponent," perhaps, but referee Mike Emanatian is retiring (https://dailygazette.com/article/2020/01/22/emanatian-ready-to-wrap-up-hockey-officiating-career) due to a bad back. Anybody who dropped the f-bomb on Bill Cleary at 19 is a national hero.
This is a wonderful image; I can imagine it perfectly:
Quote"I will never, ever forget [that first game]," Emanatian said. "I said, 'Well, what do I do?' He said, 'Well, you know what everything is, you've played hockey your whole life. If you see a trip, call a trip. If you see a punch in the head, call it.'
"I remember seeing a kid trip another kid, and I'm like, 'There it is.'
"So I put my arm up. Everybody stopped, and it was like, OK, what do you have? So I pointed to the player, and I'm sure I didn't do that right, and I signaled a trip, which I'm sure was terrible. And the kid went to the box and nobody yelled or said a word, and I think it was that moment I just fell in love with it. I thought, 'Wow, I get to come out here, skate, in the game I love,' and it was really that very first penalty I called in the first game I did that I kind of got hooked on it."
I can imagine that. "Holy shit, they're actually going to listen to me?" Adorable.
Colgate's pp has reached 4.5 (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1920/national/d1m)%
Thanks Trotsky! +1
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
That's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?
Isn't that a low bar when compared to Q? ::rolleyes::
Quote from: Chris H82Isn't that a low bar when compared to Q? ::rolleyes::
My question was whether SHU belongs in the same cluster with the ECAC in the way that Q (and TBH probably UVM) does not.
I mean, the other way is 16: + SHU, Niagara, RIT, and Canisius. We could also add back Army if we still want to kick out Q (spoiler: we do).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris H82Isn't that a low bar when compared to Q? ::rolleyes::
My question was whether SHU belongs in the same cluster with the ECAC in the way that Q (and TBH probably UVM) does not.
I mean, the other way is 16: + SHU, Niagara, RIT, and Canisius. We could also add back Army if we still want to kick out Q (spoiler: we do).
Why do you guys want to kick Q out? Sorry im new.
They don't fit the academic model. No need to be sorry.
Quote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
Fun fact, according to the KRACH Monte Carlo run weekly at USCHO, Q is our most likely SF opponent at Lake Placid:
Simulated Final Standings (Monte Carlo simulation of 1026.2 possibilities; n=1,000,000): 1. Cornell
2. Clarkson
3. Dartmouth
4. Quinnipiac
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5. Harvard
6. Colgate
7. Yale
8. RPI
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9. Princeton
10. Brown
11. Union
12. SLU
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Quote from: blackwidowQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris H82Isn't that a low bar when compared to Q? ::rolleyes::
My question was whether SHU belongs in the same cluster with the ECAC in the way that Q (and TBH probably UVM) does not.
I mean, the other way is 16: + SHU, Niagara, RIT, and Canisius. We could also add back Army if we still want to kick out Q (spoiler: we do).
Why do you guys want to kick Q out? Sorry im new.
Coach is a prick too
Quote from: TrotskyThat's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?
I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyThat's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?
I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
Sacred Heart is most definitely a Catholic school (https://www.sacredheart.edu/offices--departments-directory/mission-and-catholic-identity/mission-statement/). An interesting note, not related to hockey, is that Bobby Valentine is their AD. He's the former Mets manager, of course, and was a three-sport All-State athlete in Stamford, CT, before going on to an injury-shortened major league career.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyThat's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?
I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
According to their website, not Catholic:
Sorry, I always thought they were Catholic. BTW, Saint Lawrence is awesome. His martyrdom is they fried him on a griddle, and that's his symbol.
(http://www.stephenmorrisauthor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/martyrdom-of-St-Laurence-of-Rome-he-is-roasted-on-a-gridiron-02.jpg)
Nice, huh?
I always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
(https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Purple5/v4/ea/17/97/ea179739-6e23-8cb8-8b04-45cf4e382770/source/512x512bb.jpg)
Quote from: TrotskyI always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.
The Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.
Quote from: TrotskyThey don't fit the academic model. No need to be sorry.
Give them a chance. We should take a poll. Call it the Quinnipiac University Poll. :)
Quote from: RichHThe Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.
Welp, Rand McNally sucks. (I guess it said "5.4," not "54" ).
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyI always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.
Yea, but if they're into adoration of saints that's the Whore of Babylon. <-- edit: oh, snap.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyI always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.
Yea, but if they're into adoration of saints that's the Whore of Babylon. <-- edit: oh, snap.
I hate to love this website.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.
The Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.
I didn't realize it was THAT close!
sacred heart is a pretty quick team this yr.. they dont play solid D but they will be pesky. our fore check would give them fits. but they would make our D be solid on the breakout
Maybe Sacred Heart wants to have their own arena so the fans won't have their ticket prices gouged by Webster Arena/Ticketmaster. A friend of mine was planning on bringing his entire family to the Connecticut Ice Classic this past weekend. The tickets in the lower section were listed online for $45 apiece (for one day only), but he when we went to checkout his purchase, he did a double-take at the total, and saw that due to various fees and taxes, his $45 tickets were now $70 apiece. Instead, he brought them at the box office, but even there the $45 tickets ended up costing him $58 apiece. The only saving grace was that one of his daughters is a UConn student and her ticket only cost $10. He's glad that Sacred Heart is planning to have a beer garden as part of their new arena, since he enjoys having a cold brew while at the game.
Quote from: dbilmesSacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million (https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2020/01/27/features/sacred-heart-university-to-build-premier-hockey-arena-at-its-fairfield-campus/86306.html) to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
This looks like it will be a gorgeous facility. 4,000 capacity made me raise my eyebrows at first, but it's clear from the articles they intend it to also be used for other events, concerts, and graduation. Contrast this with UConn, a school with 4x the enrollment with a hockey program in a major conference, planning to build an on-campus arena with half the capacity. Uconn seems to pout at every turn that they are being made by HEA to update their tin-can of an on-campus facility. Imagine being a UConn student, having to drive 35 minutes into Hartford for every home game, where there are 8 seats for every retirement age fan, and your band isn't allowed to play after goals because of Whaler nostalgia.
Interesting game in Anchorage last night that ended: Mankato 2, Anchorage 2.
Three major penalties, three game misconducts, no power play goals.
During the last minute of the third period, Mankato scored two extra-attacker goals to eek out a tie.
Quote from: iceInteresting game in Anchorage last night that ended: Mankato 2, Anchorage 2.
Three major penalties, three game misconducts, no power play goals.
During the last minute of the third period, Mankato scored two extra-attacker goals to eek out a tie.
Fire Hastings!
In the last 30 years, Harvard has won the Beanpot twice.
Recent Beanpot winners:
2010 - BC
2011 - BC
2013 - BC
2014 - BC
2015 - BU
2016 - BC
2017 - Harvard
2018 - NE
2019 - NE
This year:
Havard(17) vs. NE(12)
BC(4) vs. BU(26)
If Havard wins it, they could move up to 12 +/- 1 and help Cornell. Ted, are you reading this?
My favorite Beanpot stat is in the first 27 Northeastern never (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanpot_(ice_hockey)) won, and only even played in the final twice.
SF: 2-25
F: 0-2
Overall: 2-27 .074
H loses 3-1 with EN goal.
Quote from: Jim HylaH loses 3-1 with EN goal.
They never disappoint...
BU beat BC 5-4 in double overtime. The game counts as a 4-4 tie.
That will give Harvard a shot at #5 BC.
So Kevin Sneddon is (supposedly) retiring as Vermont head coach after this season and they'll be looking for a replacement. Per some folks on USCHO, Ben Syer is one of the several people being looked at
Quote from: IcebergSo Kevin Sneddon is (supposedly) retiring as Vermont head coach after this season and they'll be looking for a replacement. Per some folks on USCHO, Ben Syer is one of the several people being looked at
That wouldn't surprise me. He seems to have done an excellent job on the recruiting trail and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Ben deserves it. I've thought of him as heir apparent here (IINM didn't they promote him from assistant to associate coach?) but Mike's not going anywhere soon and Syer will be a great head coach. Vaya con Dios.
Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Quote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Ben's wife works as a senior administrator for Cornell. Hopefully that will help keep them both at Cornell for many more years.
Quote from: CASBen's wife works as a senior administrator for Cornell. Hopefully that will help keep them both at Cornell for many more years.
+ googol
::smashfreak::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Is this just for this year or forever?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Is this just for this year or forever?
Since he was hired, I believe.
Quote from: sah67Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Is this just for this year or forever?
Since he was hired, I believe.
Yes, I'll second that belief.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: sah67Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Is this just for this year or forever?
Since he was hired, I believe.
Yes, I'll second that belief.
Oh.
...
Fire Schafer!
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: sah67Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: sah67Quote from: scoop85...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
Is this just for this year or forever?
Since he was hired, I believe.
Yes, I'll second that belief.
Oh.
...
Fire Schafer!
That stats-obsessed egghead is ruining our game (and the world) with his maths, after all.
Beanpot consolation game.
BC is up 5-2 on Harvard, second period.
BC scored two short-handed goals on a Harvard power play.
Harvard doing everything possible to lower the ECAC in the Pairwise.
BC up 6-2 after two.
Ted brings out a new goalie for the third. He's not giving up.
BC wins it 7-2
In other words, Harvard does what Harvard does, i.e. sucks.
Quote from: iceBC wins it 7-2
I know BC has some firepower, but hard to believe we were so bottled up by that same Harvard team a couple of weeks ago.
And BU up 2-0 early in the finals.
The game is on NHL Network for those who'd care to watch it (using the NESN broadcast).
Now 4-2 NU in the 2nd. Wow.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Now 4-2 NU in the 2nd. Wow.
Northeastern's PK looks similarly passive to ours this season, with similar results.
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
They finished the first 5 minute OT, so officially the game is an NCAA tie.
Now in a second 20 minute OT.
And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.
On just a bad call. I don't care that BU beat NU on a similar bad call a few years ago. That was a bad call. I can't easily find a video to show it, but wow.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly
Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.
On just a bad call. I don't care that BU beat NU on a similar bad call a few years ago. That was a bad call. I can't easily find a video to show it, but wow.
A weak call, especially considering what the refs let slide prior to that point in the OT.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly
Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.
It never happened.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly
Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.
It never happened.
No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
If I'm a Northeastern fan I'd be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly
Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.
It never happened.
No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.
You can do it, Stryker!
Beanpot
BU vs Northeastern Highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KsztqO2_jo
Quote from: iceBeanpot
BU vs Northeastern Highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KsztqO2_jo
Great highlights. These clips show the plays developing rather than just the few seconds before each goal. I wish Cornell would take notice.
However, the penalty that led to the tie-breaking goal is missing.
Quote from: martyQuote from: iceBeanpot
BU vs Northeastern Highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KsztqO2_jo
Great highlights. These clips show the plays developing rather than just the few seconds before each goal. I wish Cornell would take notice.
However, the penalty that led to the tie-breaking goal is missing.
this was my reaction to the video too, in all respects. also, a lot of saves and near-misses. defensive highlights are highlights!
Comparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 Uni @[b]Qpc[/b] Yal [b]Clk[/b]
2/15 RPI @Prn Brn SLU
2/21 @Yal [b]Hvd[/b] @[b]Clk[/b] @RPI
2/22 @Brn Drt @SLU @Uni
2/28 SLU @Cgt RPI Brn
2/29 [b]Clk[/b] @[b]Cor[/b] Uni Yal
If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 2 [b]1[/b] 2 [b]1[/b]
2/15 2 2 2 2
2/21 2 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2
2/22 2 2 2 2
2/28 2 2 2 2
2/29 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2 2
[b]Pts 37 35 33 32[/b]
The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html).
Quote from: TrotskyThe 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html).
Yes, it was my junior year, so there are intangibles that light the whole experience up like a Christmas tree, but that stretch run was the most exciting period of Cornell hockey that I have ever witnessed. '97 was different—a much more "cardiac kids" kind of situation. '03 was "men against boys." '05 might have come close, but I watched (mostly, listened to) that one from afar.
Nothing compares to '96: fan for life.
This year? I don't think the top 4 are going to find their Colgate. It's all about jockeying to secure the "best" quarterfinal opponent. Takes a bit of the suspense out of it, but I'll take it.
Quote from: TrotskyComparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 Uni @Prn Yal [b]Clk[/b]
2/15 RPI @[b]Qpc[/b] Brn SLU
2/21 @Yal [b]Hvd[/b] @[b]Clk[/b] @RPI
2/22 @Brn Drt @SLU @Uni
2/28 SLU @Cgt RPI Brn
2/29 [b]Clk[/b] @[b]Cor[/b] Uni Yal
If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 2 2 2 [b]1[/b]
2/15 2 [b]1[/b] 2 2
2/21 2 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2
2/22 2 2 2 2
2/28 2 2 2 2
2/29 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2 2
[b]Pts 37 35 33 32[/b]
The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html).
If I understand what you are doing correctly, there must be an even number of 1's for each date. It looks like the Clarkson entries for 2/14 and 2/15 should be switched.
Quote from: ursusminorIf I understand what you are doing correctly, there must be an even number of 1's for each date. It looks like the Clarkson entries for 2/14 and 2/15 should be switched.
Yep. I suck. Fixed.
Quote from: TrotskyComparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 Uni @[b]Qpc[/b] Yal [b]Clk[/b]
2/15 RPI @Prn Brn SLU
2/21 @Yal [b]Hvd[/b] @[b]Clk[/b] @RPI
2/22 @Brn Drt @SLU @Uni
2/28 SLU @Cgt RPI Brn
2/29 [b]Clk[/b] @[b]Cor[/b] Uni Yal
If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:
[b]Team Cor Clk Hvd Qpc
Pts 26 26 22 21[/b]
2/14 2 [b]1[/b] 2 [b]1[/b]
2/15 2 2 2 2
2/21 2 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2
2/22 2 2 2 2
2/28 2 2 2 2
2/29 [b]1[/b] [b]1[/b] 2 2
[b]Pts 37 35 33 32[/b]
The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html).
I'm strangely fascinated by the fact that we, Sucks, and Q all have the same six teams remaining. Clarkson has the other six.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyThe 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html).
Yes, it was my junior year, so there are intangibles that light the whole experience up like a Christmas tree, but that stretch run was the most exciting period of Cornell hockey that I have ever witnessed. '97 was different—a much more "cardiac kids" kind of situation. '03 was "men against boys." '05 might have come close, but I watched (mostly, listened to) that one from afar.
Nothing compares to '96: fan for life.
This year? I don't think the top 4 are going to find their Colgate. It's all about jockeying to secure the "best" quarterfinal opponent. Takes a bit of the suspense out of it, but I'll take it.
+1
Watching the ot of Brown at Harvard -- Bright is empty.
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
NoDak 2 Denver 1, 13 mins to go (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/livebox.php?vc=den&hc=ndk). Denver's goaltender is Magnus Chrona, and is, I assume, also a Bond villain.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.
It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.
It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.
Hopefully it won't matter this year, but the Ivies don't get to decide what math means. Aesthetics > authority. Smash the state!
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.
Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/ivy_2020.html). We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.
Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.
It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.
Hopefully it won't matter this year, but the Ivies don't get to decide what math means. Aesthetics > authority. Smash the state!
Uh huh.
Nurse, get Mr. Trotsky his meds, please.
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time. St. Thomas (MN) has been talking about jumping to D-I.
Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.
When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.
When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.
None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.
When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.
None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).
Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.
When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.
None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).
Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
The Lumberjacks! Dr. Mrs. grew up in Flag and we have friends there.
Evidently Grand Canyon University, which is about three blocks from my new house, competes as an ACHA D-1 Indy same as UNLV. They're lunatic fundies so they shouldn't mind going into the corner.
Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
that is no longer news - FYI. We reported that months ago. ASU is not going to happen, far as I know. CCHA name is most likely - to be announced this week.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.
If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.
When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.
None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).
Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
The Lumberjacks! Dr. Mrs. grew up in Flag and we have friends there.
Evidently Grand Canyon University, which is about three blocks from my new house, competes as an ACHA D-1 Indy same as UNLV. They're lunatic fundies so they shouldn't mind going into the corner.
Of course, Jesus would forgive their penalties, especially if they cross-checked in his name.
Quote from: TrotskyCHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.
Wait, with that many teams leaving who's left?
QuoteUAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.
Ahh, the farther away schools.
QuoteIf Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time. St. Thomas (MN) has been talking about jumping to D-I.
Are they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?
Quote from: French RageAre they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?
Coincidentally, another Indy ACHA school is UAB, which had a D-1 not all that long ago (80s at least, maybe 90s).
I have no idea what to do about Alaska other than impose a surcharge on all of D-1 hockey to defray their and their opponents' travel costs. Hockey Socialism!
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageAre they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?
Coincidentally, another Indy ACHA school is UAB, which had a D-1 not all that long ago (80s at least, maybe 90s).
I have no idea what to do about Alaska other than impose a surcharge on all of D-1 hockey to defray their and their opponents' travel costs. Hockey Socialism!
I don't have any records of UAB ever being a thing. Do you have something that shows that?
Quote from: TrotskyUAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.
I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: TrotskyUAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.
I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.
You can't fire me, I quit!
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: TrotskyUAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.
I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.
According to the thread on USCHO that was a strategic move to protect themselves if the league folded, but I don't understand the details.
Huntsville basically withdrew so that they could start looking elsewhere. That's pretty much it. Since the league basically won't exist anyway, it's somewhat irrelevant.
are there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.
Quote from: abmarksare there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.
not that far West
Quote from: abmarksare there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.
How about D3 schools near Schenectady?
Quote from: martyQuote from: abmarksare there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.
How about D3 schools near Schenectady?
This year that would be Union.
Yes, that's the joke, I know...
There is club hockey on the West Coast - see this well-timed article (https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/hockey/apple-puck-tourney-fuels-states-college-hockey-rivalries-for-a-cause/) for a bit of detail:
New York Times on the WCHA implosion:
How Many Hockey Teams Does it Take to Make a Conference? (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/sports/hockey/wcha-hockey.html)
Quote from: Pat Borzi, NYT, 2/20/20Last June, seven schools — Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Ferris State, Northern Michigan, Michigan Tech and Lake Superior State — announced plans to withdraw from the W.C.H.A. and possibly form a new conference for the 2021-22 season. That left only Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville, the W.C.H.A.'s farthest-flung members. This week, the departing seven programs reorganized as the Central Collegiate Hockey Association, reviving the name of a conference that dissolved in the previous realignment.
Interesting about how Alaska-Anchorage is saving money:
Quote from: NYTThis season, Alaska-Anchorage shifted games from the 6,290-seat Sullivan Arena downtown to the 750-seat Seawolf Sports Complex on campus, a move that Athletic Director Greg Myford said saved $200,000 annually. The complex's capacity ranks below the W.C.H.A. minimum of 2,500 and Myford soon plans to announce fund-raising for an expansion project to increase seating to as many as 3,000. [WCHA commissioner Bill] Robertson approved the venue shift, a decision that did not sit well with some members.
... By resources and commitment, the seven departing W.C.H.A. schools have been on opposite trajectories from the others since the beginning. While Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green and the Michigan schools invested in facilities and program upgrades, the Alaska schools faced state-mandated budget cuts to higher education that threatened men's hockey's survival. The Alaska state budget will trim $70 million from the university system over three years. ... [reportedlty] ongoing financial issues in Alaska concerned all seven. So did lackluster play by certain schools. Alabama-Huntsville's last winning season came in 2005-06, and Alaska-Anchorage is deep into its sixth consecutive losing season. The departing schools felt those sub-.500 seasons hampered their pursuit of at-large bids to the N.C.A.A. Tournament, where strength of schedule is a factor. Under its current configuration, the W.C.H.A. has yet to win an N.C.A.A. title. The last came in 2011, by Minnesota Duluth, now in the N.C.H.C.
Who could keep the WCHA afloat? The story notes Arizona State is the lone independent among 60 D1 hockey schools but opted not to join in 2017. St. Thomas in St. Paul, MN, is trying to get NCAA approval to jump from D3 to D1. The story adds, "Illinois soon plans to add Division I hockey but is committed to the Big Ten. Mike Snee, executive director of College Hockey Inc., a nonprofit that promotes men's Division I hockey, said his organization is helping six schools develop Division I programs. He declined to name them, and it's not clear if any will field teams by 2021-22."
New York Times on the WCHA implosion:
How Many Hockey Teams Does it Take to Make a Conference? (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/sports/hockey/wcha-hockey.html)
Quote from: Pat Borzi, NYT, 2/20/20Last June, seven schools — Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Ferris State, Northern Michigan, Michigan Tech and Lake Superior State — announced plans to withdraw from the W.C.H.A. and possibly form a new conference for the 2021-22 season. That left only Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville, the W.C.H.A.'s farthest-flung members. This week, the departing seven programs reorganized as the Central Collegiate Hockey Association, reviving the name of a conference that dissolved in the previous realignment.
Interesting about how Alaska-Anchorage is saving money:
Quote from: NYTThis season, Alaska-Anchorage shifted games from the 6,290-seat Sullivan Arena downtown to the 750-seat Seawolf Sports Complex on campus, a move that Athletic Director Greg Myford said saved $200,000 annually. The complex's capacity ranks below the W.C.H.A. minimum of 2,500 and Myford soon plans to announce fund-raising for an expansion project to increase seating to as many as 3,000. [WCHA commissioner Bill] Robertson approved the venue shift, a decision that did not sit well with some members.
... By resources and commitment, the seven departing W.C.H.A. schools have been on opposite trajectories from the others since the beginning. While Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green and the Michigan schools invested in facilities and program upgrades, the Alaska schools faced state-mandated budget cuts to higher education that threatened men's hockey's survival. The Alaska state budget will trim $70 million from the university system over three years. ... [reportedlty] ongoing financial issues in Alaska concerned all seven. So did lackluster play by certain schools. Alabama-Huntsville's last winning season came in 2005-06, and Alaska-Anchorage is deep into its sixth consecutive losing season. The departing schools felt those sub-.500 seasons hampered their pursuit of at-large bids to the N.C.A.A. Tournament, where strength of schedule is a factor. Under its current configuration, the W.C.H.A. has yet to win an N.C.A.A. title. The last came in 2011, by Minnesota Duluth, now in the N.C.H.C.
Who could keep the WCHA afloat? The story notes Arizona State is the lone independent among 60 D1 hockey schools but opted not to join in 2017. St. Thomas in St. Paul, MN, is trying to get NCAA approval to jump from D3 to D1. The story adds, "Illinois soon plans to add Division I hockey but is committed to the Big Ten. Mike Snee, executive director of College Hockey Inc., a nonprofit that promotes men's Division I hockey, said his organization is helping six schools develop Division I programs. He declined to name them, and it's not clear if any will field teams by 2021-22."
We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Quote from: adamwWe've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
Quote from: CU2007Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
As I say often - it's impossible to really say, because it depends upon some big donor coming along and saying "please take my money" -- that's pretty much it. So you never know.
We will have news on this on CHN soon - there may be one ready to make the jump for sure - but still not sure.
The Alaska programs will probably fold eventually, but may try to hang on kicking and screaming for a while.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: CU2007Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
As I say often - it's impossible to really say, because it depends upon some big donor coming along and saying "please take my money" -- that's pretty much it. So you never know...
Hey Bennett, Frank Messa called
He said U. Sucks
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: adamwWe've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
Amazing that Alabama-Huntsville holds on. Their president Robert Altenkirch 2011-2019 was a believer in sports as a school unifier and to that end in his stop before UAH, had taken NJIT (think CCNY Tech in Newark) into D1 basketball. (How do you unify a school around the NCAA record for consecutive defeats, 51? ) Have to see if the new guy is as supportive of UAH hockey. There is now UAH women's hockey to provide Title IX balance.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: CU2007Quote from: adamwWe've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
Amazing that Alabama-Huntsville holds on. Their president Robert Altenkirch 2011-2019 was a believer in sports as a school unifier and to that end in his stop before UAH, had taken NJIT (think CCNY Tech in Newark) into D1 basketball. (How do you unify a school around the NCAA record for consecutive defeats, 51? ) Have to see if the new guy is as supportive of UAH hockey. There is now UAH women's hockey to provide Title IX balance.
IIRC, UAH also had white knights among the team alumni who saved the program with their own contributions.
I would't be shocked if UAA and UAF have a similar network, although the expenses are probably a lot higher.
Harvard up 3-0 on Clarkson at the end of the first period.
C'mon, you stupid Crimson, do something right for once.
Quote from: Give My RegardsHarvard up 3-0 on Clarkson at the end of the first period.
C'mon, you stupid Crimson, do something right for once.
Now 4-1.
Harvard is manhandling Clarkson. Total domination through 2 periods
Quote from: Cop at LynahHarvard is manhandling Clarkson. Total domination through 2 periods
No, BC is manhandling Northeastern. Now 7-1 after 2, but it was 7-0.
Edit: Now 9-1. Somebody's pissed about the Beanpot. Just wow.
And they made the conversion. Final 10-1.
RPI beat Q 4-0. Pretty good night in-conference.
St. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Quote from: iceSt. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Minny State is beating UAH 9-0 so no gaining ground there.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: iceSt. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Minny State is beating UAH 9-0 so no gaining ground there.
Duluth lost to Western Mich.
UND and St.Cloud now tied 2-2. Denver up 5-2 on Miami in the 2nd.
If someone had told you before tonight's games started that BC would beat Northeastern 10-1, what odds would you have needed to make a bet on another game tonight winding up even more lopsided than that?
Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0!
St. Cloud was down 3-2 to North Dakota. They tied it a 3-3, and there was a review resulting in a major penalty against North Dakota. St. Cloud starting on the PP now.
I'm listening here: https://fightinghawks.com/watch/?Live=1273&sport=8&type=Live
Penn State and Minny now in OT at 3-3. The Goofer Goalie has stopped 51 out of 54 PSU shots!
The game counts as a tie in the PWR, but PSU wins it in the 3 on 3.
St Cloud and North Dakota going into OT tied at 3.
Edit: No score in the first OT, so that's a tie as far as we're concerned.
Wisco 7 ASU 6
Hands down the firewagon hockey game of the year so far. Two lead changes and final goal at 18:51 of the third. Not a surprise since that's the way both teams have been playing all year.
Quote from: andyw2100Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0
I think MS should have eased up at 5, especially given that Alabama needs to find a new conference.
Quote from: iceQuote from: andyw2100Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0
I think MS should have eased up at 5, especially given that Alabama needs to find a new conference.
Seems like that message didn't get passed to them. They're up 7-0 in the 2nd tonight.
Meanwhile, SLU is up 5-2 in the 3rd against Harvard. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde
Quote from: IcebergMeanwhile, SLU is up 5-2 in the 3rd against Harvard. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde
Now 5-3. uhhhh...
Edit: 6-3 final.
St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
1 point weekend for ND but they are still at the top of the Pairwise.
Mankato bullies Huntsville 10-0 and 8-0.
Quote from: iceQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
The whole thing started when a NoDak player took a shot after the horn blew. One of the St. Cloud players took offense and jumped him at center ice.
Much ado about nothing.
Anyone short on Ipecac can tune into the Onion Senior Night ceremony on ESPN+.
Wish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT. Onion season ticket holders can keep their ice fresh till the fall!::pain::
Quote from: martyWish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT.
A PP goal...
RPI is 8-3-1 in ECAC play in 2020, with 2 of those losses against us, since the new year. I'm wondering if they're getting hot come ECAC tourny time. (Perhaps not having to work on spreadsheets has unburdened them.)
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: martyWish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT.
A PP goal...
...after making 50 saves. QU attempted over 100 shots according to the broadcast. Pretty noble effort.
Quote from: French RageRPI is 8-3-1 in ECAC play in 2020, with 2 of those losses against us, since the new year. I'm wondering if they're getting hot come ECAC tourny time. (Perhaps not having to work on spreadsheets has unburdened them.)
OTOH, the RPI women completed a perfect ECAC season. ::rolleyes::
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: rediceBrent Brekke was named Head Coach of the the St Lawrence Men's Ice Hockey team today.... Congrats, Brent!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx52LzLAa0E/?igshid=1qc1gzd714bk5&fbclid=IwAR1vmpgoGuu0qPR0rf7S8lBqRmM8yOhzS-P4qIfd4woQo5QRCZDyxl7bDXg
So we're basically colonizing the North Country. And we've already got Don Vaughan at Colgate, although his time as a Cornell assistant was long ago.
Obviously we played against both SLU and Clarkson on the road this season, but will this weekend be the first time both men's head coaches visiting Lynah to play *at* Cornell are both former Cornell men's assistant coaches? Anyone know for sure?
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
Quote from: ursusminorLynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
RPI had more than a few vocal fans at Lynah two weeks ago. I noticed a linesman wannabe and his faux ref buddy from section 7 made the trip.
The fans who have kept their season tickets are enjoying a good season.
Quote from: ursusminorLynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorLynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.
As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.
::help::
Colgate: Hockey Secures Home Ice with Late Goal (https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2020/2/28/mens-ice-hockey-hockey-secures-home-ice-with-late-goal.aspx)
Clarkson: Clarkson Settles for Tie at Colgate (https://clarksonathletics.com/news/2020/2/28/mens-hockey-clarkson-settles-for-tie-at-colgate.aspx)
The Colgate link has video of their goal, and the sparse crowd.
Quote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorLynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.
As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.
::help::
He is certainly able to do more with what he has than Appert did. Players are actually improving over four years which did not seem to ever happen with Appert.
I suspect that Cornell fans will disagree, which is fine, but I think that Smith deserves the ECAC CotY award. It is an award that an RPI coach has never received although coaches for all of the other 11 schools have. BTW, how did that award get named for Tim Taylor rather than Ned Harkness?
COTY is subjective in many ways
RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2
Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4
so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall
Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?
Not sure either was expected.
I certainly agree that it is subjective. You are correct that what Cornell did is harder. The question is how much did the coach have to do with it.
Both schools benefitted from the fact that the middle eight teams in the ECAC this year are all very mediocre. That is shown by where they all sit in the PWR. RPI is still in the upper 30's.
There have been other years when I thought that an RPI coach deserved it and didn't win it (not since before Appert.)
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorLynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.
As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.
::help::
He is certainly able to do more with what he has than Appert did. Players are actually improving over four years which did not seem to ever happen with Appert.
I suspect that Cornell fans will disagree, which is fine, but I think that Smith deserves the ECAC CotY award. It is an award that an RPI coach has never received although coaches for all of the other 11 schools have. BTW, how did that award get named for Tim Taylor rather than Ned Harkness?
Taylor probably stepped on fewer toes than Ned... Just sayin...
RPI's ECAC record pre- and post- New Year certainly lend credence to the RPI coach making a big impact once the season got rolling.
Flunkies get statues; innovators win championships.
Quote from: TrotskyFlunkies get statues; innovators win championships.
I'm OK with Schafer never winning another COTY if we win a NC. And I bet he is too.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyFlunkies get statues; innovators win championships.
I'm OK with Schafer never winning another COTY if we win a NC. And I bet he is too.
Me too.
They named Cornell after the guy with the money, not the ideas.
Which is really just as well since White University would have been a little too on the nose.
Old Ez had the ideas before he had the money. His wealth didn't come from outworking the other white guys.
Quote from: osorojoOld Ez had the ideas before he had the money. His wealth didn't come from outworking the other white guys.
He had the ideas about certain inventions, most importantly how to make a machine that would dig a trench, lay telegraph cable, and cover it up and, when the cable proved too crappy to last underground, how to use glass insulators to sting telegraph wire on telegraph poles (I heard he invented them too, but I also have heard they were already using them in England). Before that and after he hooked up with that Morse guy, he worked his ass off.
OTOH, White had ideas like a school for any person & any subject, co-ed, electives, academic departments, a school "free from religious influences, free from political influences, and free from commercial influences" yes still engaged with the world (no idea lasts forever), etc., etc., etc.
Quote from: upprdeckCOTY is subjective in many ways
RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2
Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4
so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall
Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?
Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.
That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckCOTY is subjective in many ways
RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2
Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4
so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall
Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?
Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.
That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.
It Smith's favor, it does take a while to change the attitude left over from Appert. I do agree that it shouldn't be a most-improved coach award.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckCOTY is subjective in many ways
RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2
Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4
so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall
Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?
Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.
That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.
It Smith's favor, it does take a while to change the attitude left over from Appert. I do agree that it shouldn't be a most-improved coach award.
I think the most important measurement is finish vs. preseason poll, rather than previous year. The preseason poll takes previous year into account, sure, but if a team outperforms those preseason polls, the coach is given much more consideration. RPI was picked 10th in the media, and T9 for coaches preseason poll. Now it looks like they're going to lock down a bye...that's significant in the eyes of the voters.
That said, leading a team to the #1 spot in the national polls...that's something that's hard to maintain, and is respected.
So is it the coaches fault of the writers do a poor job of predicting?
North Dakota wins in overtime.
Quote from: TrotskyNorth Dakota wins in overtime.
After Western thought they won:
https://twitter.com/recoveringops/status/1233965415090606080?s=21
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: adamwWe've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/28/report-university-of-illinois-hockey-team-john-buccigross/
"The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.
According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days..."
well they could have called the interference penalty that would have helped.
WMich is sort of a bubble team, too. Rough break for them.
Quote from: jeff '84https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/28/report-university-of-illinois-hockey-team-john-buccigross/
"The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.
According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days..."
I wonder if this makes Iowa more likely. There's perennial speculation there and they actually have a great tradition in ACHA.
Quote from: jeff '84"The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.
According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days..."
Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.
One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"
Quote from: adamwQuote from: jeff '84"The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.
According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days..."
Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.
One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"
So reading between the lines, I've decoded Adam's secret message that EA Sports is releasing a college hockey video game.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: adamwQuote from: jeff '84"The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.
According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days..."
Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.
One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"
So reading between the lines, I've decoded Adam's secret message that EA Sports is releasing a college hockey video game.
Well, there
is a Big 10 Hockey Conference. ::whistle::
RPI's Coach Smith is one hell of a promoter. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D9tFq-FJde8)
#2 Minnesota State currently outshooting #57 UAA 30-6 in the second, and losing 1-0. Go Seawolves!
Quote from: Robb#2 Minnesota State currently outshooting #57 UAA 30-6 in the second, and losing 1-0. Go Seawolves!
Now 2-2, 11-49
Northern's Griffin Loughran tried to check the ref tonight?
https://twitter.com/tbraunthg/status/1234591181314625539?s=21
Whoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.
Loughran is Northern's best player with 40 points, so it's not like he's a goon.
Quote from: TrotskyWhoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.
As someone pointed out in the comments, he's probably just sealing off the boards and doesn't see the ref. Looks worse (and funnier) than it is.
UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.
That should help put some distance between us and BC.
Quote from: andyw2100UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.
That should help put some distance between us and BC.
Excellent.
Mankato and NoDak both winning. Mankato final shots were 53-14.
UMD winning big, I wonder if they will overtake BC. Their seniors must be up around 180 GP. (Edit: only 4 seniors, highest is 155 GP).
Princeton wins it in OT, on the PP!
UMD, repeat defending NCAA champions and back-to-back-to-back finalists, are now #4 PWR and in line for a 1-seed.
Cornell is now the only eastern school in the top 5.
1. NoDak
2. Mankato
3. Cornell
4. Minn-Duluth
5. Denver
6. BC
7. Pedo State
8. UMass
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: andyw2100UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.
That should help put some distance between us and BC.
Excellent.
Mankato and NoDak both winning. Mankato final shots were 53-14.
UMD winning big, I wonder if they will overtake BC. Their seniors must be up around 180 GP. (Edit: only 4 seniors, highest is 155 GP).
As of 10:30, UMD moves up to 4th, Denver to 5th, BC to 6th.
Quote from: TrotskyUMD, repeat defending NCAA champions and back-to-back-to-back finalists, are now #4 PWR and in line for a 1-seed.
Cornell is now the only eastern school in the top 5.
1. NoDak
2. Mankato
3. Cornell
4. Minn-Duluth
5. Denver
6. BC
7. Pedo State
8. UMass
If it ended that way next weekend Duluth would seem destined for Loveland.
Quote from: TrotskyWhoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.
Loughran is Northern's best player with 40 points, so it's not like he's a goon.
Actually - he might not just be a goon - but he is a goon. Also leads them in PIM, and is an all-around knucklehead. He speared a guy Saturday night, and got away with only 2 minutes. They lost. Season over. Went completely down the toilet after leaving Lynah. As did Michigan State in the 2nd half. Two series of events that really didn't help Cornell at all. If those teams stayed where they were at midseason, Cornell would be No. 2 in the Pairwise.
Illinois seems have been poised to announce that they were going DI in ice hockey, with money for a new arena lined up, but the pandemic and economic uncertainty is at least postponing the formal announcement.
https://www.news-gazette.com/sports/short-term-pause-for-hockey-at-illinois/article_aaf0c392-8335-11ea-afbf-a73c7c92668c.html
Alabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/05/22_Alabama-Huntsville-Cuts-Hockey.php
Quote from: BeeeejAlabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/05/22_Alabama-Huntsville-Cuts-Hockey.php
That seemed inevitable unfortunately.
That's a shame.
Speculation that one or both Alaska schools could go next.
Quote from: BeeeejAlabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/05/22_Alabama-Huntsville-Cuts-Hockey.php
Reports of the Chargers' demise were premature. As CHN reports that they're returning for whatever upcoming season exists after an online fundraiser was successful. Definitely a stopgap, and the axe is still hovering, but quite a reversal considering players had already started to commit elsewhere.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/05/29_Alabama-Huntsville-Will-Play.php
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BeeeejAlabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/05/22_Alabama-Huntsville-Cuts-Hockey.php
Reports of the Chargers' demise were premature. As CHN reports that they're returning for whatever upcoming season exists after an online fundraiser was successful. Definitely a stopgap, and the axe is still hovering, but quite a reversal considering players had already started to commit elsewhere.
Huh. Well, good for them.
even makes you wonder about Browns decision to drop so many teams before really looking at all the choices
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/06/01_Dartmouth-Names-Reid-Cashman.php
Quote from: Cop at Lynahhttps://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/06/01_Dartmouth-Names-Reid-Cashman.php
One of the best opponents I've ever seen; hopefully won't continue Gaudet's cementhead ways.
Fun fact: The date of Mike Schafer's first game playing for Cornell is prior to the date of Reid Cashman's birth.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at Lynahhttps://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/06/01_Dartmouth-Names-Reid-Cashman.php
One of the best opponents I've ever seen, ad hopefully won't continue their cementhead ways.
Absolutely. Ton of respect for the guy. We even voted him "Most Respected Opponent" in 2007 for TBRW?.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Cop at Lynahhttps://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/06/01_Dartmouth-Names-Reid-Cashman.php
One of the best opponents I've ever seen, ad hopefully won't continue their cementhead ways.
Absolutely. Ton of respect for the guy. We even voted him "Most Respected Opponent" in 2007 for TBRW?.
I thought he might have a more successful pro career, but was a terrific college player. I think he'll have a good run in Hanover if he can manage the tougher recruiting climate than he was used to at Q.
Dartmouth's Shane Sellar will play for RPI in the upcoming season, assuming that there is an upcoming season, as a grad transfer. He has shown up in the RPI directory. (https://info.rpi.edu/people/shane-sellar) He wouldn't have been eligible at DC for the usual Ivy reason.
Edit: He must have impressed the RPI staff a couple of years ago http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1718/boxes/mdarren1.f09. :-P
Harvard is hemorrhaging players. Reilly Walsh just signed with the Devils, and their top recruit Matthew Berniers, a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming NHL draft (and son of two Cornellians FWIW) has made a late switch from Harvard to Michigan for the upcoming season. Poor Teddy! ::help::
Quote from: scoop85Harvard is hemorrhaging players. Reilly Walsh just signed with the Devils, and their top recruit Matthew Berniers, a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming NHL draft (and son of two Cornellians FWIW) has made a late switch from Harvard to Michigan for the upcoming season. Poor Teddy! ::help::
Berniers is a killer. Hahvahd sucks.
I wonder how many of these (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/6621008-UND-has-29-athletes-test-positive-for-COVID-19#.XzrQnA2WdMk.twitter) were hockey players.
Quote from: dbilmesI wonder how many of these (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/6621008-UND-has-29-athletes-test-positive-for-COVID-19#.XzrQnA2WdMk.twitter) were hockey players.
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Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: dbilmesI wonder how many of these (https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/6621008-UND-has-29-athletes-test-positive-for-COVID-19#.XzrQnA2WdMk.twitter) were hockey players.
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I was. One of many cutbacks we've had to make in these uncertain times.
They can have my Jefferson Jimplecute when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160701184108/https://jimplecute1848.com/
Mike Gilligan looks great (https://local21news.com/news/offbeat/sheriff-intruder-woke-up-residents-later-caught-with-gallon-of-milk-can-of-beets) these days!
Travis Roy, who was paralyzed when he crashed into the boards during his very first shift as a BU freshman, died today at the age of 45. He was an inspirational figure after the accident, and this is such sad news.
I was visiting Boston at the time and happened to be watching that game on TV. I think I was as stunned as the fans in the arena. What a shocking and tragic moment. But in spite of the injury, he went on to be a role model and inspiration for many. RIP, Travis.
A few articles about Travis from the Boston Globe:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/29/metro/travis-roy-wasnt-heavy-he-was-our-brother/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/19/metro/amazing-transformative-life-travis-roy/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/29/sports/tributes-abound-sports-world-after-death-travis-roy-who-inspired-so-many/
Travis Roy would be the exception about never feeling sorry for BU hockey. He WAS an inspiration.
Union's Jack Adams is transferring. Article also mentions RPI's Savory has decided to transfer as well.
https://dailygazette.com/2020/11/18/unions-adams-in-transfer-portal-rpis-savory-to-lowell/
I guess go play Juniors? where else can they go?
Quote from: The RancorI guess go play Juniors? where else can they go?
I assume there are no NCAA transfer waivers due to one's school cancelling the season? Harvard's big recruit who jumped to Michigan appears to have made a smart decision (from an actually playing hockey perspective anyways ). Will be interesting to see if there are any changes in recruiting trends as a result of all this.
https://twitter.com/chnews/status/1329492831786987522
Quote from: The RancorI guess go play Juniors? where else can they go?
The factory schools will play, I assume. North Dakota wins another title playing in a 12-team NC$$ field.
Quote from: The RancorI guess go play Juniors? where else can they go?
Savory is going to UML.
There were 2 Big Ten hockey games on TV last night. Why didn't they cancel?
Quote from: TroyfanThere were 2 Big Ten hockey games on TV last night. Why didn't they cancel?
Need to play football for the TV money. And once you're playing football, it's hard to say no hockey
Hockey East starts tonight with games on NESN and NESN+.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioHockey East starts tonight with games on NESN and NESN+.
Playoffs on E.R.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioHockey East starts tonight with games on NESN and NESN+.
And...................... it's gone (https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/11/20/bc-unh-season-opener-friday-night-postponed/).
I predict a team with a three and one record will seize the national Division One Men's College Hockey Championship. They may cancel the parade, though.
I had no idea until just now that there is an ostensible ECAC season (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2020-21/standings) for 20-21, with 4 teams.
AIC is currently 4th in PWR (https://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
LIU is 18th.
Quote from: TrotskyI had no idea until just now that there is an ostensible ECAC season (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2020-21/standings) for 20-21, with 4 teams.
One of those lucky teams is going to get to hang an ECAC championship banner in their building!
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: TrotskyI had no idea until just now that there is an ostensible ECAC season (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2020-21/standings) for 20-21, with 4 teams.
One of those lucky teams is going to get to hang an ECAC championship banner in their building!
And we don't for '20.
(https://boston.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3859903/2015/06/untitled-12.jpg?w=1024&h=576&crop=1)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: dbilmesQuote from: TrotskyI had no idea until just now that there is an ostensible ECAC season (https://www.ecachockey.com/men/2020-21/standings) for 20-21, with 4 teams.
One of those lucky teams is going to get to hang an ECAC championship banner in their building!
And we don't for '20.
(https://boston.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3859903/2015/06/untitled-12.jpg?w=1024&h=576&crop=1)
Can you say asterisk?
I know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Quote from: TrotskyI know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Which was odd because the day before the teams played to a 2-2 tie (Q won the [shudder] shoot out) in a game I thought Colgate had the edge.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyI know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Which was odd because the day before the teams played to a 2-2 tie (Q won the [shudder] shoot out) in a game I thought Colgate had the edge.
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130315.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130316.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130317.pdf
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyI know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Which was odd because the day before the teams played to a 2-2 tie (Q won the [shudder] shoot out) in a game I thought Colgate had the edge.
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130315.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130316.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130317.pdf
https://twitter.com/BeeeejEsq/status/313296829922037760
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyI know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Which was odd because the day before the teams played to a 2-2 tie (Q won the [shudder] shoot out) in a game I thought Colgate had the edge.
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130315.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130316.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130317.pdf
https://twitter.com/BeeeejEsq/status/313296829922037760
Yet another game that never happened.
64 goddamn seconds.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyI know we are basically acting like the ECAC isn't having a season this year and, frankly, good, but I thought I'd note that Q kicked the absolute living shit outta Gate a few nights ago, 9-zip.
Which was odd because the day before the teams played to a 2-2 tie (Q won the [shudder] shoot out) in a game I thought Colgate had the edge.
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130315.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130316.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2013/box20130317.pdf
so close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Quote from: ugarteso close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Look at Andy's saves from the third period on.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteso close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Look at Andy's saves from the third period on.
sure but he made all of 'em but one.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteso close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Look at Andy's saves from the third period on.
sure but he made all of 'em but one.
All but 2.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteso close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Look at Andy's saves from the third period on.
sure but he made all of 'em but one.
All but 2.
i meant in regulation because we were just about a minute from victory but, yes, he did obviously also give up another goal after we were no longer in a position to win with a -8 GD.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteso close to winning that series with a -8 GD
Look at Andy's saves from the third period on.
sure but he made all of 'em but one.
All but 2.
i meant in regulation because we were just about a minute from victory but, yes, he did obviously also give up another goal after we were no longer in a position to win with a -8 GD.
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The new Seattle NHL team is lending a hand to the UAA program, There's a mention of possibly hosting a 4 team tournament in Seattle - the 2 Alaska teams and 2 others. Wonder if this could be a possibility for us, given the demise of the Florida tournament. I know we recruit a lot in BC.....
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/effort-to-help-save-alaska-anchorage-hockey-program-gets-a-big-boost-from-the-kraken/
Quote from: Chris H82The new Seattle NHL team is lending a hand to the UAA program, There's a mention of possibly hosting a 4 team tournament in Seattle - the 2 Alaska teams and 2 others. Wonder if this could be a possibility for us, given the demise of the Florida tournament. I know we recruit a lot in BC.....
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/effort-to-help-save-alaska-anchorage-hockey-program-gets-a-big-boost-from-the-kraken/
That is awesome!
Quote from: Chris H82The new Seattle NHL team is lending a hand to the UAA program, There's a mention of possibly hosting a 4 team tournament in Seattle - the 2 Alaska teams and 2 others. Wonder if this could be a possibility for us, given the demise of the Florida tournament. I know we recruit a lot in BC.....
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/effort-to-help-save-alaska-anchorage-hockey-program-gets-a-big-boost-from-the-kraken/
I for one am pro-"games on the west coast".
Quote from: French RageQuote from: Chris H82The new Seattle NHL team is lending a hand to the UAA program, There's a mention of possibly hosting a 4 team tournament in Seattle - the 2 Alaska teams and 2 others. Wonder if this could be a possibility for us, given the demise of the Florida tournament. I know we recruit a lot in BC.....
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/effort-to-help-save-alaska-anchorage-hockey-program-gets-a-big-boost-from-the-kraken/
I for one am pro-"games on the west coast".
At this point, I'm pro any games at all.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: French RageQuote from: Chris H82The new Seattle NHL team is lending a hand to the UAA program, There's a mention of possibly hosting a 4 team tournament in Seattle - the 2 Alaska teams and 2 others. Wonder if this could be a possibility for us, given the demise of the Florida tournament. I know we recruit a lot in BC.....
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/effort-to-help-save-alaska-anchorage-hockey-program-gets-a-big-boost-from-the-kraken/
I for one am pro-"games on the west coast".
At this point, I'm pro any games at all.
Like.
(If old school fora like this one had a like button then we would call it social media and be as cool as Slack)
Clarkson won't participate in the playoffs. Their season is over. Thus QU will receive a bye to the finals.
Nice detail-rich announcement they offered.
Quote from: margolismNice detail-rich announcement they offered.
Wow, you ain't kidding:
QuoteThe 2020-2021 Golden Knights' Hockey Seasons have concluded.
3/10/2021 4:29:00 PM
Thank you to all Clarkson Fans for your support during COVID-19.
We look forward to welcoming you to a new season next fall.
Such a dumb season deserves a dumb ending.
I hope AIC wins the National title by default.
Duke basketball likely done too.
yeah those covid parties are tough to survive.. couldnt wait 2 more weeks?
ECAC title game, such as it is, at 4pm: https://www.espn.com/watch/?redirected=true
SWEET! SLU beats Q in OT to take the Whitelaw trophy and the NCAA autobid.With about 5 regular season wins.::rock::
Quote from: TimVSWEET! SLU beats Q in OT to take the Whitelaw trophy and the NCAA autobid.With about 5 regular season wins.::rock::
The last two ECAC tournaments are won by Casey and Brekke. Both in the North Country.
But really, let's all laugh at Pecknold who lost a one-game tournament with 2 Hobey finalists.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TimVSWEET! SLU beats Q in OT to take the Whitelaw trophy and the NCAA autobid.With about 5 regular season wins.::rock::
The last two ECAC tournaments are won by Casey and Brekke. Both in the North Country.
But really, let's all laugh at Pecknold who lost a one-game tournament with 2 Hobey finalists.
Quinnipiac had 12 seconds of offense in a 63 minute game.
We may have disagreements on this forum from time to time, but on one thing I believe we are all united. Fuck Q with a rusty skate blade.
Who else back in September expected SLU to be the ECAC champs::smashfreak::?
Quote from: margolismWho else back in September expected SLU to be the ECAC champs::smashfreak::?
The insanity... or madness? continues.
https://twitter.com/chnews/status/1373737316561395714
Brekke tested positive.
Quote from: RichHBrekke tested positive.
Shit. Be well, Brent.
And the idiocy goes on (https://www.reddit.com/r/collegehockey/comments/md0mvv/buccigross_im_hearing_notre_dame_might_be_having/).
I'd say well at least somebody got rich off this shit but nobody got rich off this shit.
so ND and Mich both test out.. I wonder why they didnt have stand by teams for this like the bball did.. its not like they couldnt push a game or 2 back a day to deal with it.
Bemidji knocks out Wisconsin.
Quote from: upprdeckso ND and Mich both test out.. I wonder why they didnt have stand by teams for this like the bball did.. its not like they couldnt push a game or 2 back a day to deal with it.
Isn't the obvious answer that you need a bare minimum of 7 guys or so for hoop, and hockey would.need an absolute minimum of something like 13 or 14? (2 lines, 2 goalies and a couple spare parts in case of injury prior to faceoff.). Plus you gotta equip hockey players etc vs.hoopsters who just need a shirt.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: upprdeckso ND and Mich both test out.. I wonder why they didnt have stand by teams for this like the bball did.. its not like they couldnt push a game or 2 back a day to deal with it.
Isn't the obvious answer that you need a bare minimum of 7 guys or so for hoop, and hockey would.need an absolute minimum of something like 13 or 14? (2 lines, 2 goalies and a couple spare parts in case of injury prior to faceoff.). Plus you gotta equip hockey players etc vs.hoopsters who just need a shirt.
They did have standby teams (that's how Notre Dame got in) but the deadline to add any additional teams was Monday.
Can't spell Quit without Q (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20210327/qui/mns/).
Minnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Quote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
what was the deal with his transfer? grad, covid or too many healthy scratches?
Cairns was a grad transfer
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
M-D now haw won, I believe, 9 consecutive OT games in the NCAA tournament. Unfathomable.
Quote from: CASCairns was a grad transfer
Thanks. In ~ 60 games in Red he had 6 points (3G, 3A) and this year in maroon he has 6 assists in 27 games. I don't think it means much except that they are more willing to play him in Duluth than Mike was in Ithaca.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: CASCairns was a grad transfer
Thanks. In ~ 60 games in Red he had 6 points (3G, 3A) and this year in maroon he has 6 assists in 27 games. I don't think it means much except that they are more willing to play him in Duluth than Mike was in Ithaca.
I heard his name quite a bit during the overtimes, always in the context of making a strong defensive play and starting up a rush with a pass. I'm not sure he crossed the red line once.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
M-D now haw won, I believe, 9 consecutive OT games in the NCAA tournament. Unfathomable.
For context, here's how Cornell's seasons change if they win their last 9 NCAA ot games.
Well, 7, as that is all they have ever played:
1969 (W-Michigan Tech) NCAA SF. No change.
1973 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA SF. Advance to NCAA F.
1991 (W-Michigan) NCAA QF Game 1. No change.
2003 (W-BC) NCAA QF. No change.
2005 (L-Minnesota) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2006 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2012 (W-Michigan) NCAA 1R. No change.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
M-D now haw won, I believe, 9 consecutive OT games in the NCAA tournament. Unfathomable.
For context, here's how Cornell's seasons change if they win their last 9 NCAA ot games.
Well, 7, as that is all they have ever played:
1969 (W-Michigan Tech) NCAA SF. No change.
1973 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA SF. Advance to NCAA F.
1991 (W-Michigan) NCAA QF Game 1. No change.
2003 (W-BC) NCAA QF. No change.
2005 (L-Minnesota) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2006 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2012 (W-Michigan) NCAA 1R. No change.
In conclusion, my findings show a strong correlation between winning in overtime and advancing in the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyMinnesota-Duluth and North Dakota about to head to period 8 in Fargo for a trip to Pittsburgh.
Matt Cairns will be making the trip to Pittsburgh with M-D.
M-D now haw won, I believe, 9 consecutive OT games in the NCAA tournament. Unfathomable.
For context, here's how Cornell's seasons change if they win their last 9 NCAA ot games.
Well, 7, as that is all they have ever played:
1969 (W-Michigan Tech) NCAA SF. No change.
1973 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA SF. Advance to NCAA F.
1991 (W-Michigan) NCAA QF Game 1. No change.
2003 (W-BC) NCAA QF. No change.
2005 (L-Minnesota) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2006 (L-Wisconsin) NCAA QF. Advance to Frozen Four.
2012 (W-Michigan) NCAA 1R. No change.
In conclusion, my findings show a strong correlation between winning in overtime and advancing in the NCAA tournament.
My next paper will explore the regression coefficients of winning percentage against goal margin. Within a game.
BC's out https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1376330027978080257
UMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
Quote from: French RageUMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
I think it was UMD last year actually.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageUMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
I think it was UMD last year actually.
Maybe you're both right! But, we'll we'll never know...
Still have the Belt, though.
Quote from: French RageUMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
I recognize no legitimacy in this year's NC.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: French RageUMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
I recognize no legitimacy in this year's NC.
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Quote from: abmarksQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: French RageUMass stole our NC. Prove me wrong.
I recognize no legitimacy in this year's NC.
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That must've been interesting for Cam Donaldson, transferring there...for next season.
Someone hacked RPI's computer systems (https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/FBI-leading-probe-as-cyberattack-continues-to-16166787.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-CP-Spotlight) causing finals to be cancelled, etc.
Quote from: ursusminorSomeone hacked RPI's computer systems (https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/FBI-leading-probe-as-cyberattack-continues-to-16166787.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-CP-Spotlight) causing finals to be cancelled, etc.
Twist: that
was the final.
dang Ferris Bueller strikes again
Did they lose their spreadsheets?!
Quote from: ursusminorSomeone hacked RPI's computer systems (https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/FBI-leading-probe-as-cyberattack-continues-to-16166787.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-CP-Spotlight) causing finals to be cancelled, etc.
RIP ? (https://www.pcmag.com/news/ransomware-hits-research-facility-after-student-installs-pirated-software?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=securitywatch&utm_medium=image)