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Title: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: billhoward on April 19, 2019, 10:41:31 AM
Game stats
Cornell        4   3   2   3  -  12
Brown          1   1   4   3  -   9

FO    Cornell  12 Brown 12 (was Cornell 7x11 at the half)
Shots Cornell  36 Brown 49
SOG   Cornell  22 Brown 21  (was Cornell 14-6 at the half)
Svs   Cornell  12 Brown 10    

Piatelli    3G 1A - 4pts
Petterson   2  2  - 4
McCulloch   3  0  - 3
Teat        1  2  - 3


Cornell went up 8-2 to start the third period 28 seconds in, then Brown came wihthin one goal in a near Cornell collapse that included a couple failed shot backups to retain possession plus losing FO% second half (although Brown announcer said, "Cornell has lots of people they can throw at you on faceoffs" where he intended that to mean a strength for Cornell), and better play by Brown.  Jake Mcculloch put Cornell up 9-5 6 minutes into the third, then Cornell went scoreless for the next 18-1/2 minutes and Brown closed to 9-8 with 5:35 left. Cornell put in 3 in the next 3 minutes, Brown got a final goal with a second to play, and 12-9 was the final score and a sloppy victory for Cornell.

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Weekend's other games:
Yale 10, Albany 5, Friday
Princeton 19, Harvard 15 (Princeton now 2-3 Ivies,
Penn 22, Dartmouth 6
Standings
Penn       6-0  Ivy season finished, vs. Vermont Satruday, Wilton, Conn.
Yale       4-1  at Harvard Saturday 12 noon
Cornell    3-2  hosts Princeton 12 noon
Princeton  2-3  
Brown      2-3 at Dartmouth 1:30
Harvard    1-4
Dartmouth  0-5

Brown will finish 3-3 and Dartmouth will finish 0-6. Cornell and Princeton also could finish 3-3.  H2H, Cornell has beaten Brown, Brown has beaten Princeton (14-10, March 30). With a three-way tie and each team being 1-1 against the others, and 0-2 against the 1-2 teams, one of the tie-breakers can be goal-differential and something as minor as the last-second Brown goal might have an impact.

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[Notes before the game]
So are we feeling good about the Brown game, Saturday 12 noon in Providence? They have fallen mightily since Dylan Molloy and Lars Tiffany in 2016. (One goal loss to Maryland in NCAA semis with Molloy playing on a bad leg.)
Brown key stats:
 5-7   Overall
 2-2   Ivy
.486   FO

We want to win to help our odds of an at-large bid. Should we lose to Brown, we'd play #1 Penn in the Ivy tournament, else we wind up with Ivy #2 Yale. We could get past Penn. Past Yale? Only if we believe miracles happen back to back years. Our post-season odds, Ivy tournament or NCAAs, are being in the bracket with weaker FOGOs.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 19, 2019, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: billhowardSo are we feeling good about the Brown game, Saturday 12 noon in Providence? They have fallen mightily since Dylan Molloy and Lars Tiffany in 2016. (One goal loss to Maryland in NCAA semis with Molloy playing on a bad leg.)
Brown key stats:
 5-7   Overall
 2-2   Ivy
.486   FO

We want to win to help our odds of an at-large bid. Should we lose to Brown, we'd play #1 Penn in the Ivy tournament, else we wind up with Ivy #2 Yale. We could get past Penn. Past Yale? Only if we believe miracles happen back to back years. Our post-season odds, Ivy tournament or NCAAs, are being in the bracket with weaker FOGOs.
Should we lose to Brown and Princeton, season is over
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: upprdeck on April 19, 2019, 01:58:37 PM
if we lose to brown are we even locked into playing in the ivy?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 19, 2019, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: upprdeckif we lose to brown are we even locked into playing in the ivy?
Need to win one more to get in.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: semsox on April 19, 2019, 06:24:15 PM
Our team has as much talent as anybody for a deep run into May, and if they're going to approach that ceiling, then they will take care of business this weekend and next weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: billhoward on April 19, 2019, 10:38:50 PM
I left out the unlikely but not impossible scenarios, such as Brown losing to Cornell and to currently 0-4 (Ivy) Dartmouth. Princeton and Harvard could finish 3-3 with 2 final wins, but not both since they play Saturday.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: mike1960 on April 20, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
After the Notre Dame game, it's a welcome change to be able to see what's going on through a clear lens.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: mike1960 on April 20, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
My goodness!  Beautiful work by Chayse.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 20, 2019, 12:58:34 PM
Cornell 14 0f 21 shots on goal
Brown 6 of 21
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 20, 2019, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: mike1960My goodness!  Beautiful work by Chayse.
His two back-to-back saves were amazing.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 20, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
Brown back in the game at 8-5.  Let Penn back in earlier.  Need to score a few.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 20, 2019, 01:16:33 PM
Ang get Teat back in the offense.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: semsox on April 20, 2019, 02:09:18 PM
I'll take the W, but really have not been enjoying the style of play of this season as a whole. I feel the face-off issue has forced the staff to slow down the offense into a deliberate slog. They're so afraid of not being efficient in converting their possessions that it's blunting the creativity of the players and the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: ugarte on April 20, 2019, 02:09:48 PM
12-9 final
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: upprdeck on April 20, 2019, 02:09:58 PM
started to feel like the Penn game.. a game under control up 6 in the 2nd half and almost let it slip away again
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 20, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
A win is a win.  I'll take it.

Also, Notre Dame beat UNC.  Good for our RPI.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: CU77 on April 20, 2019, 08:06:37 PM
Actually the ND win was not so good for us:

Quote from: laxreferenceNotre Dame getting into the field is probably bad for Cornell. But if they do look like they are going to get in, then you guys should be rooting for them to win the ACC tournament.

Overall Cornell makes it in 39.2% of the time when ND is in the field. If ND wins the ACC tournament, Cornell's chances only rise to 43.6%. When ND misses the field though, Cornell's chances are at 50.2%.

A lot hinges on the ND/UNC game coming up. If ND wins that, the projections have them in 81.9% of the time. If they lose that game, then the projections have them in only 20.6% of the time. So you'll have a better sense of whether to don your blue-and-gold after their next game.
http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=374&start=740#p41952

But now that ND has beaten UNC, we should be rooting for them to win the ACC tournament.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 20, 2019, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: CU77Actually the ND win was not so good for us:

Quote from: laxreferenceNotre Dame getting into the field is probably bad for Cornell. But if they do look like they are going to get in, then you guys should be rooting for them to win the ACC tournament.

Overall Cornell makes it in 39.2% of the time when ND is in the field. If ND wins the ACC tournament, Cornell's chances only rise to 43.6%. When ND misses the field though, Cornell's chances are at 50.2%.

A lot hinges on the ND/UNC game coming up. If ND wins that, the projections have them in 81.9% of the time. If they lose that game, then the projections have them in only 20.6% of the time. So you'll have a better sense of whether to don your blue-and-gold after their next game.
http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=374&start=740#p41952

But now that ND has beaten UNC, we should be rooting for them to win the ACC tournament.

I will never get this shit.  Never.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown lacrosse 4/20/19
Post by: CU77 on April 21, 2019, 04:34:29 PM
That's because it's not logical. It's based on rankings that fundamentally do not make sense.