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Title: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2019, 09:26:35 PM
Now that's a crazy stat sheet for an OT win.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 01, 2019, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: ugarteNow that's a crazy stat sheet for an OT win.

What is it with RPI goalies?  ::wow::
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ugarte on March 01, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: ugarteNow that's a crazy stat sheet for an OT win.

What is it with RPI goalies?  ::wow::
i think they said she has the record for career saves but i didn't hear if it was ECAC or NCAA.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ursusminor on March 01, 2019, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: ugarteNow that's a crazy stat sheet for an OT win.

What is it with RPI goalies?  ::wow::
i think they said she has the record for career saves but i didn't hear if it was ECAC or NCAA.

NCAA record. She now needs 31 to tie the unofficial record held by a Lindenwood goalie including her freshman year when Lindenwood was not yet an NCAA team. That should be passed in the second period tomorrow assuming that Selander isn't too tired to play.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: profudge on March 02, 2019, 09:00:14 AM
That was a hard game for us fans with our fingers crossed and praying to the hockey gods for just a bit of puck luck.   We had so many close calls for so long!
 
Congratulations to the women's hockey team who showed teamwork and hustle and persevered with their great effort!
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: imafrshmn on March 02, 2019, 12:23:10 PM
We've seen time and time again that [particularly] in the women's collegiate game, a strong goalie can thwart a dominating performance by the other team. One might think that our trouble scoring against RPI yesterday was indicative of a lack of top-class finishing ability, but I beg to differ. I believe O'Neill and Mills are among the nation's best offensive weapons. I also believe Coach Derraugh's commitment to the high puck-possession style of play can sometimes be to our detriment, as the opponent settles into a defensive shape and mentality, leading to few transition opportunities (see: Cornell 2-1 Union, 2/23). It was telling to me that the goal by Gillis Frechette to tie the game at 1-1 started with a stretch pass from our defensive zone. Sometimes it's better to "let the game come to us" than try to grab it by the scruff of the neck. Let's show some more interest in women's hockey, eh ELynah community? LET's GO RED!
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: scoop85 on March 02, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: imafrshmnWe've seen time and time again that [particularly] in the women's collegiate game, a strong goalie can thwart a dominating performance by the other team. One might think that our trouble scoring against RPI yesterday was indicative of a lack of top-class finishing ability, but I beg to differ. I believe O'Neill and Mills are among the nation's best offensive weapons. I also believe Coach Derraugh's commitment to the high puck-possession style of play can sometimes be to our detriment, as the opponent settles into a defensive shape and mentality, leading to few transition opportunities (see: Cornell 2-1 Union, 2/23). It was telling to me that the goal by Gillis Frechette to tie the game at 1-1 started with a stretch pass from our defensive zone. Sometimes it's better to "let the game come to us" than try to grab it by the scruff of the neck. Let's show some more interest in women's hockey, eh ELynah community? LET's GO RED!

I've watched a fair bit of the women's games this year, and while the team is solid top-to-bottom, besides O'Neill and to a bit lesser extent Mills, I don't see the overall offensive ability of the Johnston and Brenner era teams.  Bourbonnais is a skilled offensive defenseman who would have fit-in well on those teams too.

I'm just not sold on this team going too far in the postseason, although I'd love to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: imafrshmn on March 02, 2019, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: imafrshmnWe've seen time and time again that [particularly] in the women's collegiate game, a strong goalie can thwart a dominating performance by the other team. One might think that our trouble scoring against RPI yesterday was indicative of a lack of top-class finishing ability, but I beg to differ. I believe O'Neill and Mills are among the nation's best offensive weapons. I also believe Coach Derraugh's commitment to the high puck-possession style of play can sometimes be to our detriment, as the opponent settles into a defensive shape and mentality, leading to few transition opportunities (see: Cornell 2-1 Union, 2/23). It was telling to me that the goal by Gillis Frechette to tie the game at 1-1 started with a stretch pass from our defensive zone. Sometimes it's better to "let the game come to us" than try to grab it by the scruff of the neck. Let's show some more interest in women's hockey, eh ELynah community? LET's GO RED!

I've watched a fair bit of the women's games this year, and while the team is solid top-to-bottom, besides O'Neill and to a bit lesser extent Mills, I don't see the overall offensive ability of the Johnston and Brenner era teams.  Bourbonnais is a skilled offensive defenseman who would have fit-in well on those teams too.

I'm just not sold on this team going too far in the postseason, although I'd love to be proven wrong.

Jenner/Johnston/Saulnier and Fortino/Rougeau were all super athletic and world-class caliber, no doubt, and we probably don't have that level of talent these days. But I would argue that we're deeper and more balanced now than that era's teams (whose lack of depth probably limited their NCAA tourney success).
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: scoop85 on March 02, 2019, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: imafrshmnWe've seen time and time again that [particularly] in the women's collegiate game, a strong goalie can thwart a dominating performance by the other team. One might think that our trouble scoring against RPI yesterday was indicative of a lack of top-class finishing ability, but I beg to differ. I believe O'Neill and Mills are among the nation's best offensive weapons. I also believe Coach Derraugh's commitment to the high puck-possession style of play can sometimes be to our detriment, as the opponent settles into a defensive shape and mentality, leading to few transition opportunities (see: Cornell 2-1 Union, 2/23). It was telling to me that the goal by Gillis Frechette to tie the game at 1-1 started with a stretch pass from our defensive zone. Sometimes it's better to "let the game come to us" than try to grab it by the scruff of the neck. Let's show some more interest in women's hockey, eh ELynah community? LET's GO RED!

I've watched a fair bit of the women's games this year, and while the team is solid top-to-bottom, besides O'Neill and to a bit lesser extent Mills, I don't see the overall offensive ability of the Johnston and Brenner era teams.  Bourbonnais is a skilled offensive defenseman who would have fit-in well on those teams too.

I'm just not sold on this team going too far in the postseason, although I'd love to be proven wrong.

Jenner/Johnston/Saulnier and Fortino/Rougeau were all super athletic and world-class caliber, no doubt, and we probably don't have that level of talent these days. But I would argue that we're deeper and more balanced now than that era's teams (whose lack of depth probably limited their NCAA tourney success).

If we do have a deep run I agree it will be due to depth (and of course I meant to type Jenner not Brenner)
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: imafrshmn on March 02, 2019, 04:38:25 PM
Game 2 is looking like a carbon copy of Game 1 through 2 periods. RPI up 1-0 despite being outshot 34-6. Some of the strangest Cornell hockey games I've ever seen.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2019, 04:50:29 PM
Real shame we can't fill the rink for the women, for a playoff game.

It would help them so much.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
Cornell women sitting on program win 599.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
RPI eng up 2-0.  Shots on goal are 49-10.  How did RPI finish 8th with this woman in net?
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: imafrshmn on March 02, 2019, 05:13:53 PM
Brutal result. Certainly luck favored RPI today, but our playmaking wasn't especially well executed when it mattered most.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2019, 05:15:56 PM
Quote from: imafrshmnBrutal result. Certainly luck favored RPI today, but our playmaking wasn't especially well executed when it mattered most.
We never got a player on a rebound.  We did get a lot of deflections in front but she stopped them all.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: imafrshmn on March 03, 2019, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: TrotskyReal shame we can't fill the rink for the women, for a playoff game.

It would help them so much.

Any of you ELFers in Ithaca better turn up today at 3 to support the women's team. Attendance reported for Friday was ~1500 and Saturday was ~1200. Decent numbers but not enough. Women's hockey has drawn 2000+ a few times for big games in the past. Get Lynah loud and for pete's sake, don't antagonize the refs.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 03, 2019, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: TrotskyReal shame we can't fill the rink for the women, for a playoff game.

It would help them so much.

Any of you ELFers in Ithaca better turn up today at 3 to support the women's team. Attendance reported for Friday was ~1500 and Saturday was ~1200. Decent numbers but not enough. Women's hockey has drawn 2000+ a few times for big games in the past. Get Lynah loud and for pete's sake, don't antagonize the refs.
Seriously, that barn looked liked shit Friday and Saturday.  We need atmosphere.  So bring your text books or your laptops or your crack pipes or whatever you'd be doing at home and get your asses to the game.  Can't beat the price.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ursusminor on March 03, 2019, 03:09:51 PM
After I saw Cornell's attendance figure yesterday, I asked on yesterday's RPI men's game thread what the RPI women's record attendance is, knowing that the half dozen time I was there, the attendance seemed to be about 100 (and that probably included the men's team going through to the locker room). It appears that the record is 750.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 03, 2019, 03:35:35 PM
2-0 Cornell after one.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ugarte on March 03, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio2-0 Cornell after one.
First period SOG 25-3. RPI going on the PP early in the second.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: scoop85 on March 03, 2019, 04:13:57 PM
And RPI sores on a PP after O'Neill takes an unnecessary offensive zone penalty with Cornell completely dominating. This team shows shockingly bad hockey sense, as the only chance RPI would have to score is on the PP.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: scoop85 on March 03, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
Okay, O'Neill makes up to her gaffe by scoring immediately thereafter, Red up 3-1.  5:30 left in the 2nd period.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ugarte on March 03, 2019, 04:51:42 PM
Freschette pots another to make it 5-1. Cornell has a four goal lead with 12 minutes to go and RPI has three shots on goal in each of the first two periods.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ugarte on March 03, 2019, 05:31:02 PM
6-1 final and it could have been 30-1.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Swampy on March 03, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
Quote from: ugarte6-1 final and it could have been 30-1.

Seems they finally solved that pesky goalie. Hope the lesson helps going forward.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Trotsky on March 03, 2019, 06:56:10 PM
ECAC Release (https://www.ecachockey.com/women/2018-19/News/20190303_-_Women-s_Semifinal_Matchups) on the Championship tournament next weekend at Lynah:

QuoteITHACA, N.Y. - It took a deciding third game against RPI on Sunday, but top seeded Cornell has advanced to the ECAC Women's Hockey semifinal round, and will host the upcoming four team championship weekend. Colgate, Clarkson, and Princeton will make the trip to Ithaca, as the top four teams all took care of business in the Quarterfinal round. Game times are set for 1 and 4 p.m. for Saturday's semifinal round. Streaming links, live stats, and other game information will become available later this week. The Big Red will take on fourth-seeded Princeton at 1 p.m. in Saturday's semifinal game. The Tigers are coming off a series sweep of St. Lawrence, using a hat trick from Rookie of the Year finalist Sarah Fillier on Saturday to move on to the semifinal round. In their two matchups during the regular-season, Princeton had the edge, winning the second matchup of the year after a 2-2 tie back in November. Since that loss to Princeton on February 11, the Big Red have been red hot, posting a 14-2-1 record. Colgate came back from down 1-0 to win its quarterfinal series over Harvard and move on to the semifinals for the second straight year. Eleri MacKay put on a show in Saturday's win, recording a hat trick that included two third period goals. The Raiders will square off with third-seeded Clarkson at 4 p.m. in the semifinals in a rematch of last years ECAC Hockey and NCAA Championship game. This season, Colgate has had the edge in the series against Clarkson, winning both regular-season matchups including a thrilling 4-3 overtime win on February 9."]

Sat 1:00 #1 Cornell vs #4 Princeton
Sat 4:00 #2 Colgate vs #3 Clarkson
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 03, 2019, 07:04:54 PM
OK.  Princeton up next.

Hopefully, they'll do better than during the regular season.

Go Red!
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 03, 2019, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82OK.  Princeton up next.

Hopefully, they'll do better than during the regular season.

Go Red!

From the Sun: (https://cornellsun.com/2019/03/03/no-4-womens-hockey-blows-by-rpi-in-game-3-of-ecac-quarterfinals-for-right-to-host-championship-weekend/)

"Going off our last game against them, we kind of all were like, 'I hope we see them again, we want to see them again,'" Frechette said of Princeton's 5-0 January shellacking of the Red at Lynah. "Because we have that fire and we know we can beat them."
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: andyw2100 on March 03, 2019, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: ugarte6-1 final and it could have been 30-1.

Shots on goal for the series:

Cornell: 175
RPI: 25
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ursusminor on March 04, 2019, 12:31:05 AM
https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/1102331262306607104

I find it hard to believe that this was a first.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: scoop85 on March 04, 2019, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: ursusminorhttps://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/1102331262306607104

I find it hard to believe that this was a first.

Not me, given the lack of parity in women's hockey. And anyone watching the games would agree that except for the goaltender, RPI wasn't in the same universe as Cornell skill-wise.
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: upprdeck on March 04, 2019, 09:37:10 AM
it was really a matter of could cornell find a hole to shoot at threw all the bodies inside the 10 ft arc

RPI could have lined all 5 up behind the goalie as a wall for the lack of clearing they did
Title: Re: [WIH] QF v RPI
Post by: ACM on March 04, 2019, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ursusminorhttps://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/1102331262306607104

I find it hard to believe that this was a first.

Not me, given the lack of parity in women's hockey. And anyone watching the games would agree that except for the goaltender, RPI wasn't in the same universe as Cornell skill-wise.

ECAC women's hockey playoff history. (https://www.ecachockey.com/women/history/W_Season_Summaries.pdf)

If you consider "in conference history" to mean "since the ECAC adopted its current league composition and playoff format", yes, this is the first time. But see 1994-95; #8 St. Lawrence beat #1 Brown in their quarterfinal game.