With the Ivy title, Cornell climbs to within 2 of Harvard (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ivy_History/ivy_Champs_by_Team.htm), despite spotting them 8.
Quote from: TrotskyWith the Ivy title, Cornell climbs to within 2 of Harvard (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ivy_History/ivy_Champs_by_Team.htm), despite spotting them 8.
How did you decide when we started playing for the Ivy Championship? Is that what you mean by "spotting them 8"?
You have us starting in 63. However we certainly played Ivies before that.
The Ivy League as a sports conference was formed in 1954.
Quote from: WederThe Ivy League as a sports conference was formed in 1954.
I know that, but we weren't playing hockey then. So that doesn't help.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: WederThe Ivy League as a sports conference was formed in 1954.
I know that, but we weren't playing hockey then. So that doesn't help.
I'm not sure what your meaning is. What I mean is that Harvard won 8 Ivy titles before we won our first. Whether we were playing or not was immaterial.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: WederThe Ivy League as a sports conference was formed in 1954.
I know that, but we weren't playing hockey then. So that doesn't help.
I'm not sure what your meaning is. What I mean is that Harvard won 8 Ivy titles before we won our first. Whether we were playing or not was immaterial.
Thanks for explaining. I thought that you were referring to Harvard winning titles before we were even playing.
As a side issue, is there a reason that you list our Ivy games starting in 63? Maybe just not enough time to do it all?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: WederThe Ivy League as a sports conference was formed in 1954.
I know that, but we weren't playing hockey then. So that doesn't help.
I'm not sure what your meaning is. What I mean is that Harvard won 8 Ivy titles before we won our first. Whether we were playing or not was immaterial.
Thanks for explaining. I thought that you were referring to Harvard winning titles before we were even playing.
As a side issue, is there a reason that you list our Ivy games starting in 63? Maybe just not enough time to do it all?
Here (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_Ivy_Records_All_Seasons.html) I list us as starting with the resumption of the program.
Did I do it someplace else from 63 on? I am, as is usual for me, confused.
AHA! I get it! You mean this (http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_Ivy.pdf).
I'm going to have to go back and look. I assume we were playing Ivy games in 59-62 and have no idea why I didn't mark them as such. Unless I remember my reason it's a simple mistake which you have just helped me correct! Thanks.
Quote from: TrotskyAHA! I get it! You mean this (http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_Ivy.pdf).
I'm going to have to go back and look. I assume we were playing Ivy games in 59-62 and have no idea why I didn't mark them as such. Unless I remember my reason it's a simple mistake which you have just helped me correct! Thanks.
Yeah that's what I meant. I should have linked it for you. But that's why I was wondering if you meant championships before we were playing Ivies.
Glad we got it figured out.
Some career (http://collegehockeystats.net/1819/textstats/corm) milestones:
Vanderlaan has 91 points.
Galajda has 33 wins, 3 behind Darren Eliot for Cornell 15th all-time (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_W.pdf). He's still at 12 SO, one behind Dryden for 3rd Cornell all-time (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_Shutouts.pdf).
Cornell leads the conference with 37 GA, Clarkson has 38. If we can hold the lead we will finish with the best ECAC D (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_D.html) for the 2nd straight season and the 8th of Schafer's 23-year coaching career.
Cornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Quote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Did we tie once at home? Colgate, maybe?
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Did we tie once at home? Colgate, maybe?
We tied in Hamilton.
Record (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2003/2003_Schedule_Concise.html).
Home (16-0) Winning margins: 2433 5343 3257 5214 +56
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Did we tie once at home? Colgate, maybe?
We tied in Hamilton.
Record (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2003/2003_Schedule_Concise.html).
Home (16-0) Winning margins: 2433 5343 3257 5214 +56
Lost in Hamilton. In overtime as net was dislodged.
And opener was at OSU that year.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Did we tie once at home? Colgate, maybe?
We tied in Hamilton.
Record (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2003/2003_Schedule_Concise.html).
Home (16-0) Winning margins: 2433 5343 3257 5214 +56
Lost in Hamilton. In overtime as net was dislodged.
And opener was at OSU that year.
Whoops. Corrected, thanks. My notes say we hit 3 posts in regulation in the Hamilton loss.
Home (15-0) Winning margins: 43353 43325 75214 +54
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyCornell has a shot at finishing with the best offense in the ECAC if we outscore Harvard by at least 13 this weekend.
We have been best offense 1 time in the last 41 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_O.html).
Is that based on goals? How did we not win in 2003 if we won in 2002?
Harvard and Yale both outscored the 2003 team. We allowed about half the goals of Harvard, and a third of Yale's.
Yeah just saw that. H went up a lot from 02 to 03, and then back down in 04. Our GD of 60 in 2003, though, wow. I was looking to see if anyone else cam close since the conference realignment in the 80s, looks like H in 89 had a GD of 81.
If I remember correctly, Cornell went 15-0 at home in 2003 and won every game by at least three until the QF.
Did we tie once at home? Colgate, maybe?
We tied in Hamilton.
Record (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2003/2003_Schedule_Concise.html).
Home (16-0) Winning margins: 2433 5343 3257 5214 +56
I'm thinking of the team two years later that went undefeated at home (with a tie to Colgate).
Quote from: DafatoneI'm thinking of the team two years later that went undefeated at home (with a tie to Colgate).
OK, I'm tracking (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Lynah_ECAC_RS.html).
Kristin O'Neill hit the 100 point plateau last night in OT win over RPI! Congrats to Kristin! LGBR
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneI'm thinking of the team two years later that went undefeated at home (with a tie to Colgate).
OK, I'm tracking (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Lynah_ECAC_RS.html).
If I'm reading that correctly, Schafer has never lost more than 2 ECAC home games and won the Whitelaw in the same season?
Schafer wins the best D in the ECAC (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Best_D.html) for the 8th time in the last 19 seasons.
Schafer leads the team to a top-4 finish for the 18th time in 24 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_RS_Bargraph.html).
Quote from: TrotskySchafer leads the team to a top-4 finish for the 18th time in 24 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_RS_Bargraph.html).
And yet, some people want him fired whenever we don't win a national championship. Duuuuuumbbbbbbb
pretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts..
the late game and sat night struggles to the bad teams really pts to depth issues.
but they fought thru it and now 2 weeks to work on figuring out how to win 2 at home
Quote from: upprdeckpretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts
We'd more than likely have won one of our ties and thus won the league, at any rate.
With Andreev returning we will have everybody back and healthy except Cody and Misha ("Cody and Misha" sounds like an undercard donkey act in Tijuana), so anyway we mostly timed our injuries right.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckpretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts
We'd more than likely have won one of our ties and thus won the league, at any rate.
Giving up that goal to RPI sticks out to me. I hope that isn't the determining factor in the PWR when all is said and done.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckpretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts
We'd more than likely have won one of our ties and thus won the league, at any rate.
With Andreev returning we will have everybody back and healthy except Cody and Misha ("Cody and Misha" sounds like an undercard donkey act in Tijuana), so anyway we mostly timed our injuries right.
Let's hope so. There's still lots of hockey ahead.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckpretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts
We'd more than likely have won one of our ties and thus won the league, at any rate.
With Andreev returning we will have everybody back and healthy except Cody and Misha ("Cody and Misha" sounds like an undercard donkey act in Tijuana), so anyway we mostly timed our injuries right.
Sounds like an act in the Moscow circus,
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckpretty clear this year had we not been so injured across the board we probably win the league by 5-7 pts
We'd more than likely have won one of our ties and thus won the league, at any rate.
With Andreev returning we will have everybody back and healthy except Cody and Misha ("Cody and Misha" sounds like an undercard donkey act in Tijuana), so anyway we mostly timed our injuries right.
Healthy enough to play, at least.
Quote from: CU2007Healthy enough to play, at least.
A little bird told me he was probably already "healthy enough to play"
this weekend but Schafer held him out just to be sure. Assuming he has been skating with the team and was cleared to play, with another two weeks he could be more than just Barely Minimally Compliant.
I'm just really glad they all have some rest.
Galajda's 13th career shut out ties him with Dryden (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_Shutouts.pdf) for 3rd all-time at Cornell. Dryden did it in 83 games. Galajda in 54.
OTOH, Matt is 35-13-5. Ken was 78-4-1.
Quote from: TrotskyGalajda's 13th career shut out ties him with Dryden (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_Shutouts.pdf) for 3rd all-time at Cornell. Dryden did it in 83 games. Galajda in 54.
OTOH, Matt is 35-13-5. Ken was 78-4-1.
Which shows the value of stats.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyGalajda's 13th career shut out ties him with Dryden (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_Shutouts.pdf) for 3rd all-time at Cornell. Dryden did it in 83 games. Galajda in 54.
OTOH, Matt is 35-13-5. Ken was 78-4-1.
Which shows the value of stats.
There was a time when a goalie looked like a human, with legs, arms, and a recognizably human form. A save required moving a glove, a stick, a blocker, or a leg. No more. Today a goalie is so padded he just stands in the way. A snapped glove save causes wonderment in an announcer.
Compare any photo of Dryden in a Cornell or Montreal uniform with any goalie today. No wonder it's so difficult to score anymore, and why teams like this year's RPIs and Colgates can hang in with and beat much better teams even though dominated on the ice.
for all the complaining i dont know why they dont reduce goalie pads to just what is needed for safety. Same with the glove.
Quote from: upprdeckfor all the complaining i dont know why they dont reduce goalie pads to just what is needed for safety. Same with the glove.
I agree!! You would see the Dryden-like stats disappear, probably forever.
Quote from: rediceQuote from: upprdeckfor all the complaining i dont know why they dont reduce goalie pads to just what is needed for safety. Same with the glove.
I agree!! You would see the Dryden-like stats disappear, probably forever.
Just playing devil's advocate here, but isn't it possible that to some extent the bigger goalie pads are offsetting the advances made in stick design? I would have to think that with today's composite sticks the players are shooting harder and with more accuracy than they were fifty years ago with wooden sticks. Just a thought.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyGalajda's 13th career shut out ties him with Dryden (http://tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt50_Goalies_Career_Shutouts.pdf) for 3rd all-time at Cornell. Dryden did it in 83 games. Galajda in 54.
OTOH, Matt is 35-13-5. Ken was 78-4-1.
Which shows the value of stats.
It shows the value of a stat in a vacuum.
Nuttle wins best defensive defenseman. Well deserved.
Quote from: CU2007Nuttle wins best defensive defenseman. Well deserved.
Since the award was re-instituted in 1993, Cornellians have won it 6 times in 27 seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Best_D_D.html):
99 Burgoyne
02 McMeekin
03 Murray
10 Krueger
18 McCrea
19 Nuttle
6 Cor
5 SLU
4 Brn
4 Clk
3 Uni
3 Yal
1 Hvd
1 Prn
1 Qpc
1 Ver
0 Cgt
0 Drt
0 RPI
Ver = UVM ?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Ver = UVM ?
Yes
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Ver = UVM ?
Yes
Surprised your Shea Stadium scoreboard algorithm didn't come up with "Vmt" or something.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Ver = UVM ?
Yes
Surprised your Shea Stadium scoreboard algorithm didn't come up with "Vmt" or something.
Be nice.
It's not my fault that Pha and Pgh look normal to me.
The only one I really don't like is Cgt, and I couldn't come up with anything better (Col is too Columbia; Clg ... I dunno). To be honest, Crl or Cnl would probably be better for us, but alea iacta est.
Just you wait until Qpc leaves and we admit HyC (HCr? HCs?). Ah, fuck it, I have BC, I can have HC.
At least we don't have Mercyhurst.
Doug Derraugh is the national coach of the year (for the second time) and Jamie Bourbonnais is a second-team all-American (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2019/3/21/womens-ice-hockey-derraugh-named-coach-of-year-bourbonnais-second-team-all-american.aspx).
Here's the AHCA release (http://www.ahcahockey.com/news/1819/0321w1cy.php) on Derraugh.
The team makes the NC$$ (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_NCAA_Playoff_Bargraph.html) for the third consecutive season for the first time since 1967-70.
Noah Bauld was 0-4-4 in 25 RS games.
Noah Bauld was 3-4-7 in 5 games in the ECAC tournament, finishing 3rd overall.
The CHN Rookie of the Year is a goalie named after Ken Dryden.
http://www.mankatofreepress.com/sports/msu_mens_hockey/mavericks-dryden-mckay-is-living-up-to-his-name/article_28c98b80-1ac5-11e9-991a-3b42a14521d7.html
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/03/27_Minnesota-States-Dryden.php
Quote from: jeff '84The CHN Rookie of the Year is a goalie named after Ken Dryden.
http://www.mankatofreepress.com/sports/msu_mens_hockey/mavericks-dryden-mckay-is-living-up-to-his-name/article_28c98b80-1ac5-11e9-991a-3b42a14521d7.html
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/03/27_Minnesota-States-Dryden.php
In 1976, we considered naming our son after Ken Dryden. We decided that it would be unfair to give him a name that was significant to us, but might be meaningless to him.
Quote from: rediceIn 1976, we considered naming our son after Ken Dryden. We decided that it would be unfair to give him a name that was significant to us, but might be meaningless to him.
Every parent who names their kid after their parent does this. ::whistle::
Quote from: jeff '84The CHN Rookie of the Year is a goalie named after Ken Dryden.
http://www.mankatofreepress.com/sports/msu_mens_hockey/mavericks-dryden-mckay-is-living-up-to-his-name/article_28c98b80-1ac5-11e9-991a-3b42a14521d7.html
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/03/27_Minnesota-States-Dryden.php
I love how CHN puts this paragraph in as somehow significant to his winning.
QuoteMcKay has averaged allowing just one goal per game over his last 11 outings, which includes five WCHA playoff games. In the last one, his team fell behind, 2-0, to Bowling Green, before staging a late rally to win in overtime and capture the WCHA Tournament championship.
So he averaged one goal per game, but somehow it's important that in his last game he put his team behind 2-0.
Great job by the team and coaching staff this season.
Quote from: BearLoverGreat job by the team and coaching staff this season.
True dat. This was a difficult season. They were stellar.
This was the first Cornell team to threepeat 20-win seasons (http://www.tbrw.info/?/cornell_History/cornell_20_Win_Seasons.html) since 1979.
Quote from: Anne 85Quote from: BearLoverGreat job by the team and coaching staff this season.
True dat. This was a difficult season. They were stellar.
Of course I'm biased, but for a team that lost 89 player games to injuries to make it to the regional finals is terrific. Schafer should be a national COTY candidate.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: Anne 85Quote from: BearLoverGreat job by the team and coaching staff this season.
True dat. This was a difficult season. They were stellar.
Of course I'm biased, but for a team that lost 89 player games to injuries to make it to the regional finals is terrific. Schafer should be a national COTY candidate.
I have to think the AZ State guy wins that but, yes, if the voters are informed Schafer should absolutely be considered.
the guys playing hurt last week was telling..
No Cornell All-Americans (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_History/all_Americans_Teams.htm), either first or second team.
Primeau, the Northeastern kid we destroyed in Providence, is the first team goaltender.
Quote from: TrotskyNo Cornell All-Americans (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_History/all_Americans_Teams.htm), either first or second team.
Primeau, the Northeastern kid we destroyed in Providence, is the first team goaltender.
No All-America forwards since 1987 (Joe Nieuwendyk). Since then for Cornell, four defensemen, six goaltenders.
Quote from: billhowardNo All-America forwards since 1987 (Joe Nieuwendyk). Since then for Cornell, four defensemen, six goaltenders.
I think that'll change next year.
Quote from: cozQuote from: billhowardNo All-America forwards since 1987 (Joe Nieuwendyk). Since then for Cornell, four defensemen, six goaltenders.
I think that'll change next year.
We can hope.
Quote from: BearLoverGreat job by the team and coaching staff this season.
We overcame so many injuries back in 2019 :*(
But the present season isn't over just yet.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: Anne 85Quote from: BearLoverGreat job by the team and coaching staff this season.
True dat. This was a difficult season. They were stellar.
Of course I'm biased, but for a team that lost 89 player games to injuries to make it to the regional finals is terrific. Schafer should be a national COTY candidate.
Agreed