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Title: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: LGR14 on January 19, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
What's up with the band this year playing Gonna Fly Now before the teams get back on the ice, such that Gary Glitter starts early and fans are telling the Sieve he sucks before he's even on the ice?  The old timing worked forever - not sure why they felt the need to change it.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Beeeej on January 19, 2019, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: LGR14What's up with the band this year playing Gonna Fly Now before the teams get back on the ice, such that Gary Glitter starts early and fans are telling the Sieve he sucks before he's even on the ice?  The old timing worked forever - not sure why they felt the need to change it.

I wasn't privy to the conversation, but my impression is they've been moving it up a little each of the last few years - because if they don't, they have to stop playing it before it's over when the ref drops the puck. This way they get through the entire thing.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: marty on January 19, 2019, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: LGR14What's up with the band this year playing Gonna Fly Now before the teams get back on the ice, such that Gary Glitter starts early and fans are telling the Sieve he sucks before he's even on the ice?  The old timing worked forever - not sure why they felt the need to change it.

I wasn't privy to the conversation, but my impression is they've been moving it up a little each of the last few years - because if they don't, they have to stop playing it before it's over when the ref drops the puck. This way they get through the entire thing.

Which means no mouth kazoo humming by the crowd. That really sucks.

Humming is the highlight of the evening. ;-)
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: LGR14 on January 19, 2019, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: LGR14What's up with the band this year playing Gonna Fly Now before the teams get back on the ice, such that Gary Glitter starts early and fans are telling the Sieve he sucks before he's even on the ice?  The old timing worked forever - not sure why they felt the need to change it.

I wasn't privy to the conversation, but my impression is they've been moving it up a little each of the last few years - because if they don't, they have to stop playing it before it's over when the ref drops the puck. This way they get through the entire thing.

Which is the best part (at least letting the crowd do one verse by itself) - that's a shame.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: French Rage on January 19, 2019, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: LGR14What's up with the band this year playing Gonna Fly Now before the teams get back on the ice, such that Gary Glitter starts early and fans are telling the Sieve he sucks before he's even on the ice?  The old timing worked forever - not sure why they felt the need to change it.

I wasn't privy to the conversation, but my impression is they've been moving it up a little each of the last few years - because if they don't, they have to stop playing it before it's over when the ref drops the puck. This way they get through the entire thing.

Which is the best part (at least letting the crowd do one verse by itself) - that's a shame.

Yeah I mean, was there anyone who didn't like that part?  Especially when there's a stop in play a few seconds in and the band picks up right where they're supposed to.  That was a feature, not a bug.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: BearLover on January 19, 2019, 03:48:09 PM
I agree. My favorite Lynah cheer has always, since my first Cornell hockey game, been the crowd humming once play starts--and the band resuming after a quick whistle. Any band alums want to reach out?
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: CU2007 on January 19, 2019, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: BearLoverI agree. My favorite Lynah cheer has always, since my first Cornell hockey game, been the crowd humming once play starts--and the band resuming after a quick whistle. Any band alums want to reach out?

+1. Crowd singing it always the best part
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 19, 2019, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: BearLoverI agree. My favorite Lynah cheer has always, since my first Cornell hockey game, been the crowd humming once play starts--and the band resuming after a quick whistle. Any band alums want to reach out?

+1. Crowd singing it always the best part

+1 Totally Agee
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: kevdog8 on January 21, 2019, 12:19:16 PM
Band alum here, hoping to be in Ithaca in a few weeks and I can report back then on what, if anything, has changed.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Trotsky on January 21, 2019, 04:48:29 PM
When you talk to the band please tell them the Jeopardy theme during a review has to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  It's endless, dumb, ridiculous, awful.  It's the self-indulgence of the band amusing itself at top volume and the rest of us have to listen to it.  The band is there for the crowd; not the other way.

Other than that I love this incarnation of the band and think they are doing a fantastic job.  But for fuck's sake, enough with the Jeopardy theme.  We get it.  You're ohsoclever you can do a bit I'd expect from Brown.  Fine.  Now stop.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Bahnstorm on January 21, 2019, 10:29:24 PM
It would also help if they didn't start playing as soon as Arthur starts to tell us information about the review, both before and after, drowning him out.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: andyw2100 on January 21, 2019, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: kevdog8Band alum here, hoping to be in Ithaca in a few weeks and I can report back then on what, if anything, has changed.

Ummm...we know what has changed.

Instead of playing Gonna Fly Now when the team hits the ice at the start of the third period and then transitioning into Gary Glitter, the band, at least this past weekend, started Gary Glitter well before the team came onto the ice.

As others have pointed out, this does allow the band to finish both rounds before the puck is dropped. It does away with something many enjoy, which is the crowd having to finish on its own, and the band coming back in if there is an early stoppage.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 22, 2019, 07:37:15 AM
Quote from: TrotskyWhen you talk to the band please tell them the Jeopardy theme during a review has to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  It's endless, dumb, ridiculous, awful.  It's the self-indulgence of the band amusing itself at top volume and the rest of us have to listen to it.  The band is there for the crowd; not the other way.

Other than that I love this incarnation of the band and think they are doing a fantastic job.  But for fuck's sake, enough with the Jeopardy theme.  We get it.  You're ohsoclever you can do a bit I'd expect from Brown.  Fine.  Now stop.

Totally disagree.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: cth95 on January 22, 2019, 07:44:25 AM
I think the fans picking up when the band stops is one of the coolest traditions at any sporting events I attend, let alone Cornell hockey.  After the 2003 playoffs and FF, I was humming it in my head for most of the next year.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: LGR14 on January 22, 2019, 08:19:59 AM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: kevdog8Band alum here, hoping to be in Ithaca in a few weeks and I can report back then on what, if anything, has changed.

Ummm...we know what has changed.

Instead of playing Davy when the team hits the ice at the start of the third period and then transitioning into Gary Glitter, the band, at least this past weekend, started Gary Glitter well before the team came onto the ice.

As others have pointed out, this does allow the band to finish both rounds before the puck is dropped. It does away with something many enjoy, which is the crowd having to finish on its own, and the band coming back in if there is an early stoppage.

I first noticed it at MSG, so I am sure it has been happening all/most of the season. They actually didn't play Gonna Fly Now at all and started Gary Glitter with 2.5 minutes to go in intermission.  Half the crowd missed it.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyWhen you talk to the band please tell them the Jeopardy theme during a review has to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  It's endless, dumb, ridiculous, awful.  It's the self-indulgence of the band amusing itself at top volume and the rest of us have to listen to it.  The band is there for the crowd; not the other way.

Other than that I love this incarnation of the band and think they are doing a fantastic job.  But for fuck's sake, enough with the Jeopardy theme.  We get it.  You're ohsoclever you can do a bit I'd expect from Brown.  Fine.  Now stop.

Totally disagree.
Opinions vary.  But you have to listen to it way more often than I so I'll withdraw my complaint.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think it adds to the atmosphere?
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Trotsky on January 22, 2019, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: cth95I think the fans picking up when the band stops is one of the coolest traditions at any sporting events I attend, let alone Cornell hockey.  After the 2003 playoffs and FF, I was humming it in my head for most of the next year.
Agree.  I love the ghostliness of the fans continuing a cheer.  It's eerie and creepy.  It's even better when there's a quick stoppage and the band then picks up right on the note the fans are singing.  It ties the band and the fans together and makes the building feel like ours.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: upprdeck on January 22, 2019, 03:16:02 PM
from my side of the house it seems like the band is really struggling. My kid who has been to many a game and is in a pep band at her school has noticed it as well.

i do wonder how the clarkson band interaction will be now that they have moved them off in a far corner.. wont be nearly as fun when they cant feed off each other.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: marty on January 22, 2019, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyWhen you talk to the band please tell them the Jeopardy theme during a review has to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  It's endless, dumb, ridiculous, awful.  It's the self-indulgence of the band amusing itself at top volume and the rest of us have to listen to it.  The band is there for the crowd; not the other way.

Other than that I love this incarnation of the band and think they are doing a fantastic job.  But for fuck's sake, enough with the Jeopardy theme.  We get it.  You're ohsoclever you can do a bit I'd expect from Brown.  Fine.  Now stop.

Totally disagree.
Opinions vary.  But you have to listen to it way more often than I so I'll withdraw my complaint.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think it adds to the atmosphere?

What it does add in some cases is an exclamation point on the reviews going on too long.  Longer than 5 minutes means it almost by definition shouldn't overrule the on ice decision.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: upprdeck on January 22, 2019, 06:30:41 PM
it isnt the review taking 5 min.. its the getting  the software sometimes to get the proper spot back into sync to review it.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 22, 2019, 07:41:40 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyWhen you talk to the band please tell them the Jeopardy theme during a review has to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  It's endless, dumb, ridiculous, awful.  It's the self-indulgence of the band amusing itself at top volume and the rest of us have to listen to it.  The band is there for the crowd; not the other way.

Other than that I love this incarnation of the band and think they are doing a fantastic job.  But for fuck's sake, enough with the Jeopardy theme.  We get it.  You're ohsoclever you can do a bit I'd expect from Brown.  Fine.  Now stop.

Totally disagree.
Opinions vary.  But you have to listen to it way more often than I so I'll withdraw my complaint.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think it adds to the atmosphere?

I don't know that it adds much of anything. But neither do many of the particular songs that the band plays. They could easily change 50% of their songs and have just as good an atmosphere. The one thing that I do like about it is the ability to judge how long the review is taking. When they have to start over from the beginning, you know it's too long.

Having said that, I wouldn't care at all if they decided to quit playing it. However I would want them to come up with something that points out the time that is being taken. Sort of like the "Let's play hockey." cheer that gets started when the refs are taking too long to come up with a decision, or to explain it to the coaches. It adds something, albeit not a lot.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Tom Lento on January 23, 2019, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: LGR14I first noticed it at MSG, so I am sure it has been happening all/most of the season. They actually didn't play Gonna Fly Now at all and started Gary Glitter with 2.5 minutes to go in intermission.  Half the crowd missed it.

Oh, that makes me sad. The horns opening Gonna Fly Now right when the team stepped on the ice at the start of the third is probably my favorite "regular band moment" from when I was able to actually go to the games. There was something about the rhythm and volume of the band combined with the pace of the players streaming onto the ice and doing their skate-around that added a jolt of excitement to the start of the period. I'll be sad if it stops, although I suppose I'll never notice unless I get to another game sometime.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Swampy on January 24, 2019, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: Tom Lento
Quote from: LGR14I first noticed it at MSG, so I am sure it has been happening all/most of the season. They actually didn't play Gonna Fly Now at all and started Gary Glitter with 2.5 minutes to go in intermission.  Half the crowd missed it.

Oh, that makes me sad. The horns opening Gonna Fly Now right when the team stepped on the ice at the start of the third is probably my favorite "regular band moment" from when I was able to actually go to the games. There was something about the rhythm and volume of the band combined with the pace of the players streaming onto the ice and doing their skate-around that added a jolt of excitement to the start of the period. I'll be sad if it stops, although I suppose I'll never notice unless I get to another game sometime.

Interesting. At my very first game at Lynah the band played the Theme from Peter Gunn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oysMt8iL9UE) as the team skated out onto the ice before the rink lights went on. It was wonderful, both as a rhythmic tune to skate to and as an ominous warning to the opposing team regarding what they're about to face. Over fifty years later, I'll never forget it.

IMHO, it would be a really good thing if the band payed self-conscious attention to its own history. I wouldn't argue against changing things, but I would want changes to be done with full consciousness of what went before and why. Also, every now and then, I'd like to see revivals of older practices: as salutes to tradition, for nostalgia, for specific appropriate moments, etc.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: redice on January 24, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: SwampyIMHO, it would be a really good thing if the band payed self-conscious attention to its own history. I wouldn't argue against changing things, but I would want changes to be done with full consciousness of what went before and why. Also, every now and then, I'd like to see revivals of older practices: as salutes to tradition, for nostalgia, for specific appropriate moments, etc.

Well said...   There are some good ones that have fallen by the wayside...   I miss them!
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: Trotsky on January 24, 2019, 01:48:41 PM
I vote to bring back Fight, Maim, Kill.

Peter Gunn is great but you need a kickin' horn section to pull it off.
Title: Re: Gonna Fly Now/Gary Glitter
Post by: kevdog8 on January 25, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Sorry I hadn't logged in in a while. But as the recent band alum who posted earlier, I largely agree with most of the thoughts here. And I arranged Jeopardy for the band, so I was really happy that I was able to get the band to 1. play it and 2. play it at the appropriate time (a goal replay.) But I do agree that playing it repeatedly is an instance of one of the worst things about us: we indulge in ourselves at times instead of playing for the crowd.