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Title: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: andyw2100 on February 01, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/americas/canada-gender-neutral-national-anthem-trnd/index.html

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Canada's Senate has passed a bill making the country's national anthem gender-neutral.

If you're not familiar with the words to "O Canada," here's how the first few lines of the English version originally read: O Canada! / Our home and native land! / True patriot love in all thy sons command.
The bill changes the phrase "in all thy sons command" to "in all of us command."
It must now receive "royal assent" from the governor general before it becomes law.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 01, 2018, 10:24:44 PM
I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: RichH on February 01, 2018, 10:32:32 PM
The song has had as many versions as Cornell's Alma Mater has verses.

http://faze.ca/canada-national-anthem-through-history/
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Roy 82 on February 02, 2018, 12:49:56 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: redliner on February 02, 2018, 02:23:32 AM
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.

I think he was being sarcastic. Though, you can never quite tell on the internet...
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Trotsky on February 02, 2018, 02:27:48 AM
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Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 02, 2018, 06:45:27 AM
Quote from: redliner
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.

I think he was being sarcastic. Though, you can never quite tell on the internet...

No, I was serious.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 02, 2018, 07:40:36 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: redliner
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.

I think he was being sarcastic. Though, you can never quite tell on the internet...

No, I was serious.

But why? Why would you go against what a country and its people want? If they change their anthem and if you want to support our Canadian players, why wouldn't you sing what they say is their anthem?

Putting it another way, if you were standing next to a player from Canada and the two of you were singing, would you really go against the words that he, or she, were using?

What we sing is not an issue of political correctness, but rather respect for their country and their, not our, wishes.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Tcl123 on February 02, 2018, 09:09:54 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: redliner
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.

I think he was being sarcastic. Though, you can never quite tell on the internet...

No, I was serious.

But why? Why would you go against what a country and its people want? If they change their anthem and if you want to support our Canadian players, why wouldn't you sing what they say is their anthem?

Putting it another way, if you were standing next to a player from Canada and the two of you were singing, would you really go against the words that he, or she, were using?

What we sing is not an issue of political correctness, but rather respect for their country and their, not our, wishes.

How do you know what the people want? Was it voted on?
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Give My Regards on February 02, 2018, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: redliner
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I for one will continue to sing the current lyrics.  Political correctness be damned!

Why? I gladly welcome the more inclusive lyrics since it makes many people feel better and does no harm to me.

I think he was being sarcastic. Though, you can never quite tell on the internet...

No, I was serious.

But why? Why would you go against what a country and its people want? If they change their anthem and if you want to support our Canadian players, why wouldn't you sing what they say is their anthem?

Putting it another way, if you were standing next to a player from Canada and the two of you were singing, would you really go against the words that he, or she, were using?

What we sing is not an issue of political correctness, but rather respect for their country and their, not our, wishes.

How do you know what the people want? Was it voted on?

According to the article, the bill was passed by the House of Commons and the Senate.  So yes, at least the people's representatives did.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Trotsky on February 02, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
Stop.  Please stop.  Everybody please just stop.

Hell is other people's politics.  Please keep eLynah free of politics.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: cufan on February 02, 2018, 10:50:16 AM
Hell is other people's politics. Please keep eLynah free of politics.

Thank You
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: underskill on February 02, 2018, 11:48:39 AM
Trudeau sucks and nobody cares or asked for this.
Title: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: andyw2100 on February 02, 2018, 11:54:08 AM
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Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: ugarte on February 02, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: TrotskyStop.  Please stop.  Everybody please just stop.

Hell is other people's politics.  Please keep eLynah free of politics.
lol
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: French Rage on February 02, 2018, 05:07:16 PM
Sing it the new way.  Sing it the old way.  No one will be paying enough attention to notice.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: BearLover on February 02, 2018, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: underskillTrudeau sucks and nobody cares or asked for this.
A lot of people cared and asked for this, actually. You can disagree but I'm not really sure where you get the impression no one cares.

QuoteBut why? Why would you go against what a country and its people want? If they change their anthem and if you want to support our Canadian players, why wouldn't you sing what they say is their anthem?
Well, it's quite simple, really. If you let Obama change the lyrics so that more people feel included, the logical next step is him taking away our AR-15s
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 04, 2018, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: RichHThe song has had as many versions as Cornell's Alma Mater has verses.

http://faze.ca/canada-national-anthem-through-history/

Years ago I came across a lyric sheet for O Canada from when my great grandfather was in the Canadian army in WW I, and there were a number of differences to the current version. IIRC the cross and sword stuff was there, in the English version.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: Trotsky on February 04, 2018, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: RichHThe song has had as many versions as Cornell's Alma Mater has verses.

http://faze.ca/canada-national-anthem-through-history/

Years ago I came across a lyric sheet for O Canada from when my great grandfather was in the Canadian army in WW I, and there were a number of differences to the current version. IIRC the cross and sword stuff was there, in the English version.

The history (http://faze.ca/canada-national-anthem-through-history/).

The earliest English version:

QuoteO Canada! Our fathers' land of old

Thy brow is crown'd with leaves of red and gold.

Beneath the shade of the Holy Cross

Thy children own their birth

No stains thy glorious annals gloss

Since valour shield thy hearth.

Almighty God! On thee we call

Defend our rights, forfend this nation's thrall,

Defend our rights, forfend this nation's thrall.

1880, en français:

QuoteO Canada! Terre de nos aïeux,

Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux!

Car ton bras sait porter l'épée, Il sait porter la croix!

Ton histoire est une épopée

Des plus brillants exploits.

Et ta valeur, de foi trempe,

Protègera nos foyers et nos droits.

Protègera nos foyers et nos droits.
Title: Re: "O Canada" Revised
Post by: JohnF81 on February 04, 2018, 04:59:38 PM
The best Canadian anthem version was Roger Doucet at the Montreal Forum when he sang "we stand on guard for rights and liberty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3faC2vcKko