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Title: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on January 03, 2018, 02:27:38 PM
New rule: No predicted ties!  You gotta commit.

G - Colgate
K - Clarkson
^ - at

Deadline for submissions is 7 pm Friday.  I have been known to make transcription errors so if I do please let me know.  Tie breaker is correct guesses counting back from the last game.

My prediction below is the template.

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  L
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  L
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Beeeej on January 03, 2018, 02:47:15 PM

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  L
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  W
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: ugarte on January 03, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
once again i will decline to do this because, as the center of the universe, my predictions are too likely to alter the outcome
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on January 03, 2018, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: ugarteonce again i will decline to do this because, as the center of the universe, my predictions are too likely to alter the outcome
Then just pick all wins.  Or if you mean the universe is set to kill you, pick all losses.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Chris 02 on January 03, 2018, 05:11:10 PM

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  L
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: George64 on January 03, 2018, 05:26:08 PM

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  L
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: pfibiger on January 03, 2018, 05:37:16 PM

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 03, 2018, 06:08:46 PM

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  W
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W

It seemed to work last year and I don't want to pick us to lose, just so I can win.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Tcl123 on January 03, 2018, 06:20:53 PM
01  P  L
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  L
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 03, 2018, 07:41:09 PM
01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  L
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: andyw2100 on January 03, 2018, 10:17:49 PM
01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  W
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W


Quote from: Jim HylaIt seemed to work last year and I don't want to pick us to lose, just so I can win.

I'm with Jim. Why mess with success?
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: TimV on January 04, 2018, 02:48:15 AM
G - Colgate
K - Clarkson
^ - at


[code]01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Larry72 on January 04, 2018, 03:53:45 PM
Cornell has all the pieces this year to run the table.

01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  W
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  W
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Dafatone on January 04, 2018, 04:02:43 PM
I can't help but fear I'm jinxing it if I pick all wins. Why did we get rid of the 2 point tie again?

01 P W
02 Q W
03 ^Y L
04 ^B W
05 G W
06 ^G L
07 ^H W
08 ^D L
09 U W
10 R W
11 ^K W
12 ^S W
13 B W
14 Y W
15 ^R W
16 ^U W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: bernie on January 04, 2018, 05:13:01 PM
01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  L
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  W
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  L
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: BearLover on January 04, 2018, 07:35:46 PM
01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  L
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: marty on January 05, 2018, 05:42:54 PM
01  P  W
02  Q  W
03 ^Y  W
04 ^B  W
05  G  W
06 ^G  W
07 ^H  L
08 ^D  W
09  U  W
10  R  W
11 ^K  L
12 ^S  W
13  B  W
14  Y  W
15 ^R  W
16 ^U  W
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on January 20, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
Before the calculations, here are the entrants. Please point out any corrections.


Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m
1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H L W W W L W L L W W W W L L L
8 ^D W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K L W L L L W L L W W W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: TimV on January 20, 2018, 11:21:56 PM
I had losses at Harvard and at Clarkson, though I like how you list better.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: BearLover on January 21, 2018, 03:47:21 AM
I picked them to lose to Union the last game of the season just because I saw a million people picking their only losses to be @H and @Cl, but I probably should have stuck with my guns
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 21, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: BearLoverI picked them to lose to Union the last game of the season just because I saw a million people picking their only losses to be @H and @Cl, but I probably should have stuck with my guns

That's why I picked them to lose at 'Gate.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Beeeej on January 21, 2018, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: BearLoverI picked them to lose to Union the last game of the season just because I saw a million people picking their only losses to be @H and @Cl, but I probably should have stuck with my guns

That's why I picked them to lose at 'Gate.

...and why I picked them to lose to 'Gate, too, but I picked the home game 'cause I thought they might not take it as seriously.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: BearLover on January 22, 2018, 12:39:53 AM
stuck *to my guns ::doh::
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on January 27, 2018, 07:15:09 AM

4 5 6 5 5 6 4 4 6 5 6 5 4 5 5

Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m[hr]1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H W L W W W L W L L W L W W L L L
8 ^D W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K L W L L L W L L W L W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on January 28, 2018, 01:55:17 PM

5 6 6 6 6 7 5 5 7 6 7 5 5 6 6

Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m[hr]1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H W L W W W L W L L W L W W L L L
8 ^D W W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K L W L L L W L L W L W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 03, 2018, 09:53:33 AM

6 7 7 7 7 8 6 6 8 7 8 6 6 7 7

Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m

1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H W L W W W L W L L W L W W L L L
8 ^D W W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K L W L L L W L L W L W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Beeeej on February 03, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Wait, you're giving credit for correct predictions to "W" when the result was "T"?
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: andyw2100 on February 03, 2018, 11:22:32 AM
Looks like BearLover is the only remaining contestant with a chance of beating the optimists.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 03, 2018, 12:44:41 PM
Quote from: BeeeejWait, you're giving credit for correct predictions to "W" when the result was "T"?
No.  If that's the case someplace it's an error, but I do not see it.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 03, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: andyw2100Looks like BearLover is the only remaining contestant with a chance of beating the optimists.
That's what I get too, though toddlose could tie them.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Beeeej on February 03, 2018, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BeeeejWait, you're giving credit for correct predictions to "W" when the result was "T"?
No.  If that's the case someplace it's an error, but I do not see it.

Sorry, you have it right. I was on the one hand dinging myself for only one wrong when I also got the home 'gate game wrong, and on the other thinking of 8 as a "perfect" score. I clearly wasn't awake yet. :-)
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 15, 2018, 10:42:45 PM
2 weeks to go, our optimists are looking good:


7 8 8 8 8 9 7 7 9 8 9 7 7 8 8

Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m

1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H W L W W W L W L L W L W W L L L
8 ^D W W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R L W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K T L W L L L W L L W L W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: andyw2100 on February 15, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: Trotsky2 weeks to go, our optimists are looking good

The optimists can do now worse than a tie for first with BearLover. (And I didn't even need the playoff possibilities script or anything to work that out!  :)  )
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2018, 10:35:16 AM
With one game to go I think we are all rooting against BearLover to join the winners, including BearLover.

[b]10 11 11 11 11 [b][color=#FF0000]12[/color][/b] 10 10 [color=#FF0000]12[/color] 11 [b][color=#FF0000]12[/color][/b] 10 10 11 11[/b]

Gm Opp Act Tr Bj C G p Ji t Je a Ti L D b BL m[hr]1 P W W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W
2 Q W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
3 ^Y T W W W W W W W W W W W L W W W
4 ^B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
5 G W W L W L W W W W W W W W L W W
6 ^G W L W W W W W W L W W W L W W W
7 ^H W L W W W L W L L W L W W L L L
8 ^D W W W L W W W W W W W W L W W W
9 U W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
10 R L W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
11 ^K T L W L L L W L L W L W W W L L
12 ^S W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
13 B W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
14 Y W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
15 ^R W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W
16 ^U L W W W W W L W W W W W L L W

Tr Trotsky
Bj Beeeej
C Chris 02
G George64
p pfibiger
Ji Jim Hyla
t toddlose
Je Jeff Hopkins '82
a andyw2100
Ti TimV
L Larry72
D Dafatone
b bernie
BL BearLover
m marty

Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: CU2007 on February 24, 2018, 01:33:28 PM
BearLover seems to bring everyone else together around here
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
He's been a lot better this year.  Cut him some slack.  If I lost a friend every time I said somethi--

HEY!!!  :-(
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: TrotskyHe's been a lot better this year.  Cut him some slack.  If I lost a friend every time I said somethi--

HEY!!!  :-(

I pointed this out earlier in the year, but he has been very insistent that a bad ECAC would be good for us, and while I think there's at least some amount of coincidence going on, the ECAC is very bad and we are very good.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2018, 01:47:24 PM
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: TrotskyHe's been a lot better this year.  Cut him some slack.  If I lost a friend every time I said somethi--

HEY!!!  :-(

I pointed this out earlier in the year, but he has been very insistent that a bad ECAC would be good for us, and while I think there's at least some amount of coincidence going on, the ECAC is very bad and we are very good.
Correlation isn't causation, but... fair point.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: BearLover on February 25, 2018, 02:14:38 AM
Quote from: CU2007BearLover seems to bring everyone else together around here
Some people on this forum think having high expectations and not rooting for our rivals who crush us every year makes me a troll. The reality is that I'm one of the few recent graduates who is willing to push back against the ELynah hivemind and the arguments I've made on here have largely been borne out.

I know a number of people around my age who are big fans of Cornell Hockey and know of this forum but aren't keen on posting here because there is an Elynah Established View and those with dissenting views are shunned. Those of us who saw three NCAA tournament teams in our four years at school might have higher expectations than a lot of you, and those of us who saw Cornell get thrashed by Yale for four years straight might have felt disgusted watching them win the national title before we do (in our lifetimes). 90% of the posters here are pleasant even in disagreement. It's the 10% who compound not knowing what they're talking about with being very rude who have led to the nastiest arguments. Which I don't mind--it's an internet forum--but just because I disagree and push back doesn't mean I'm trolling or trying to upset anybody. I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, such as when I thought Schafer couldn't recruit/coach a speedy/skilled team (though I never advocated for firing him, despite some on here believing I did).

On the topic of rising tides lifting all boats, there was never any evidence that a poor ECAC meant we couldn't complete for top recruits or a national title, so it's not surprising to see that in a year with a poor ECAC we are competing for top recruits and a national title.
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: BearLover on February 25, 2018, 02:27:27 AM
(and yes, on the topic of high expectations, I'm aware a number of posters were students for the national championship years)
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: CU2007 on February 25, 2018, 02:35:31 AM
Good stuff, BearLover. I learned about "Group Think" when I was at Cornell. Discerning opinions are very valuable. And at the end of the day, it's an Internet forum. Who really cares?
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: TimV on February 25, 2018, 10:49:36 AM
Quote from: BearLoverOn the topic of rising tides lifting all boats, there was never any evidence that a poor ECAC meant we couldn't complete for top recruits or a national title, so it's not surprising to see that in a year with a poor ECAC we are competing for top recruits and a national title.

Another supporting example of BearLover's position is this year in lacrosse.  UAlbany plays in one of the 2-3 weakest leagues in DivI.  In spite of that, they have been competitive in the tournament since Siebald's days, recruit very skillfully, and this year maay just win the NCAA championship.

The streamn of our game with them next Saturday is free.  Watch if you dare.::uhoh::

Signed,
Your Friend from the Early Harkness Years
Title: Re: Predictions: The Stretch Run
Post by: Tom Lento on February 26, 2018, 07:36:04 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: CU2007BearLover seems to bring everyone else together around here
Some people on this forum think having high expectations and not rooting for our rivals who crush us every year makes me a troll. The reality is that I'm one of the few recent graduates who is willing to push back against the ELynah hivemind and the arguments I've made on here have largely been borne out.

I know a number of people around my age who are big fans of Cornell Hockey and know of this forum but aren't keen on posting here because there is an Elynah Established View and those with dissenting views are shunned. Those of us who saw three NCAA tournament teams in our four years at school might have higher expectations than a lot of you, and those of us who saw Cornell get thrashed by Yale for four years straight might have felt disgusted watching them win the national title before we do (in our lifetimes). 90% of the posters here are pleasant even in disagreement. It's the 10% who compound not knowing what they're talking about with being very rude who have led to the nastiest arguments. Which I don't mind--it's an internet forum--but just because I disagree and push back doesn't mean I'm trolling or trying to upset anybody. I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, such as when I thought Schafer couldn't recruit/coach a speedy/skilled team (though I never advocated for firing him, despite some on here believing I did).

On the topic of rising tides lifting all boats, there was never any evidence that a poor ECAC meant we couldn't complete for top recruits or a national title, so it's not surprising to see that in a year with a poor ECAC we are competing for top recruits and a national title.

We've had our disagreements, but I'm glad you stuck it out here. I've gotten more interested in advanced analytics because of you and that other person whose handle eludes me now (css something?), and that's made following these past few seasons from afar a bit more fun.