The old thread was reaching Harvard Sucks size.
Will the ECAC fuck up the holiday season?
Again?
Let's hope not. Here are our fellow travelers' games over the break:
Friday, December 15
Dartmouth 0 at Denver 1
Friday, December 16
Dartmouth 5 at Denver 4
Friday, December 29
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. Minnesota-Duluth 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
New Hampshire at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Harvard vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
St. Lawrence at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Saturday, December 30
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. New Hampshire 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
Minn.-Duluth at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
St. Lawrence vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Harvard at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Tuesday, January 2
Canisius at Clarkson
Quinnipiac at Connecticut
Wednesday, January 3
Brown at Providence (Mayor's Cup)
Friday, January 5
Canisius at St. Lawrence
My picks in
bold. Toss-ups are in
italic.
Quote from: TrotskyThe old thread was reaching Harvard Sucks size.
Will the ECAC fuck up the holiday season?
Again?
Let's hope not. Here are our fellow travelers' games over the break:
Friday, December 15
Dartmouth at Denver 9 p.m.
Friday, December 16
Dartmouth at Denver 9 p.m.
Friday, December 29
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. Minnesota-Duluth 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
New Hampshire at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Harvard vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
St. Lawrence at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Saturday, December 30
Maine at RPI 4 p.m.
Yale vs. New Hampshire 4 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
Minn.-Duluth at Dartmouth 7 p.m. (Ledyard Classic)
St. Cloud State at Princeton
St. Lawrence vs. Mass Lowell 4 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Harvard at Vermont 7 p.m. (Catamount Cup)
Union at Nebraska-Omaha 8 p.m.
Tuesday, January 2
Canisius at Clarkson
Quinnipiac at Connecticut
Wednesday, January 3
Brown at Providence (Mayor's Cup)
Friday, January 5
Canisius at St. Lawrence
Just bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.
Any wins by Dartmouth or Princeton would certainly help Cornell's PWR. I don't see Dartmouth winning any games but I wouldn't be surprised if Princeton stole one from St. Cloud.
Quote from: toddloseJust bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.
Give us a scouting report. I am scared of that team.
Are the second day games for the Ledyard and Catamount fixed?
Quote from: ugarteAre the second day games for the Ledyard and Catamount fixed?
It looks like it -- note the missing permutation is the all-ECAC meeting. Ledyard is fixed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ledyard_Bank_Classic) and the Cat was fixed in 2013 for example (http://www.augenblick.org/chha/t_uvm_01.html).
Quote from: IcebergAny wins by Dartmouth or Princeton would certainly help Cornell's PWR. I don't see Dartmouth winning any games but I wouldn't be surprised if Princeton stole one from St. Cloud.
Dartmouth lost by only 1-0 at Denver last night. Denver's goal was on pp and they had 5 pp chances to Dartmouth's 3 -- that was the difference. The Green put up a good fight.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: toddloseJust bought tix for scsu at Princeton. First time in my life I think I'll be at baker rink rooting for them.
Give us a scouting report. I am scared of that team.
No promises. Depends on how much time I'm sitting at triumph brewery beforehand.
Dartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Quote from: TrotskyDartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this. (http://www.nchc.tv/nchc/video/nchc-dartmouth-vs-denver-highlights---12-16-17)
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.
Long-Time BC Coach Ceglarski Passes Away at 91 (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/12/16_Long-Time-BC-Coach-Ceglarski.php) and the USCHO article. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/12/16/legendary-boston-college-coach-captain-ceglarski-passes-away-at-91/)
For more of the Clarkson flavor, here's the Watertown Daily Times article. (http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/sports/college-hockey-legendary-clarkson-coach-ceglarski-dies-at-age-91-20171216)
Any of us oldies will certainly remember him. For me, obviously 1970, but also 1966 in the old Boston Arena.
We were definitely the better team in 1970, they were in '66.
Quote from: DLAnd yet they tapped in 5 straight goals to beat #2 Denver
Wow. Dartmouth is down 3-0 after the first, then pots 3 in the second, goes ahead at 18:23 of the third, then pulls the goalie and gets #5 seconds later at 19:03.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyDartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this. (http://www.nchc.tv/nchc/video/nchc-dartmouth-vs-denver-highlights---12-16-17)
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.
Wow, you're right about puck luck on 4 out of the 5 goals. I've never seen an empty netter scored quite like that.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyDartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this. (http://www.nchc.tv/nchc/video/nchc-dartmouth-vs-denver-highlights---12-16-17)
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.
Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"
Quote from: DLQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyDartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this. (http://www.nchc.tv/nchc/video/nchc-dartmouth-vs-denver-highlights---12-16-17)
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.
Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"
Played on my Samsung tablet with no subscription.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: DLQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyDartmouth's improbable comeback (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20171612_Dartmouth-Denver) at Denver pushes Cornell to 4 in PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
Thanks to Scoop85 for pointing out the availability of clips like this. (http://www.nchc.tv/nchc/video/nchc-dartmouth-vs-denver-highlights---12-16-17)
The Green may have had an entire season of puck luck last night.
Are these subscription-locked? I can't get past the "cannot be played on your device"
Played on my Samsung tablet with no subscription.
Clearly, I am in the realm of knowing only enough to get myself in trouble. 3 systems (WinX, Android L, Win7), 3 browsers (FF, Chrome, Edge), 2 countries, VPN or not, nothing blocked, hostsfile or not... no love.::demented::
Sorry for the sidetrack.
Denver's website (http://www.denverpioneers.com/collegesportslive/?media=567945) has a highlight reel from the game, but it doesn't show the empty-netter.
I received the cannot be played on your device message once this morning with Chrome. Then after switching browsers and switching back to Chrome it was fine. (?)
I think these sites have to choose streaming protocols based on which OS they are streaming to. Perhaps this site gets confused as to what it is streaming to and gets hung up. But this theory is probably either wrong or oversimplified.
Quote from: martyI received the cannot be played on your device message once this morning with Chrome. Then after switching browsers and switching back to Chrome it was fine. (?)
I think these sites have to choose streaming protocols based on which OS they are streaming to. Perhaps this site gets confused as to what it is streaming to and gets hung up. But this theory is probably either wrong or oversimplified.
Even if it's wrong, it seems to be what's happened. Turned Data Saver on on mobile Chrome and it worked. Turned it off... still worked. Weirdness
Not looking like a very good day for the conference overall. However, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.
There's a lot of season left, but this has to be the weakest showing for the ECAC in terms of PWR in a long, long time.
The conference has seven teams at 45th or below.
Quote from: IcebergNot looking like a very good day for the conference overall.
And it's especially bad when you look at how some of them lost.
Hvd 2-5
Union 1-5
Those were supposed to be 2 of our strong teams.
QuoteHowever, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.
Stayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: IcebergNot looking like a very good day for the conference overall.
And it's especially bad when you look at how some of them lost.
Hvd 2-5
Union 1-5
Those were supposed to be 2 of our strong teams.
QuoteHowever, Princeton and St. Cloud are tied at 3 near the end of regulation and Dartmouth is leading UNH in the third.
Stayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0
Whoa, 14 shots on goal in 5 minutes
Quote from: Jim HylaStayed tied, but I'd like to see the OT replay. Shots: St. Cloud 14, Princeton 0
5 minutes? Holy shit!
Princeton ties St. Cloud again, Dartmouth ties Duluth, and even St. Lawrence beat Lowell. Overall a better day for the conference and presumably a nice pairwise boost for Cornell before league play starts again next weekend.
Donato made (http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/01/01/usa-hockey-olympic-paralympic-rosters-pyeongchang/) Team USA.
They will be in Second Best Korea from February 14-25. Lynah East is January 26 so presumably he will be there.
Quote from: TrotskyDonato made (http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/01/01/usa-hockey-olympic-paralympic-rosters-pyeongchang/) Team USA.
They will be in Second Best Korea from February 14-25. Lynah East is January 26 so presumably he will be there.
That will depend on the pre-tournament training schedule.
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/northern-ny/2017/12/how_cold_is_it_in_watertown_a_record-breaking_32_below_zero.html
Quote from: Watertown Daily NewsWATERTOWN, N.Y. -- Temperatures have plunged to a bitter, record-breaking low in Watertown.
The temperature hit 32 below zero this morning [Dec. 28] at the Watertown International Airport -- setting a new record low daily temperature for Watertown, reported the National Weather Service. The previous record daily low of minus 23 degrees was set in 1993.
It could get even colder.
Quote from: billhowardhttp://www.newyorkupstate.com/northern-ny/2017/12/how_cold_is_it_in_watertown_a_record-breaking_32_below_zero.html
Quote from: Watertown Daily NewsWATERTOWN, N.Y. -- Temperatures have plunged to a bitter, record-breaking low in Watertown.
The temperature hit 32 below zero this morning [Dec. 28] at the Watertown International Airport -- setting a new record low daily temperature for Watertown, reported the National Weather Service. The previous record daily low of minus 23 degrees was set in 1993.
It could get even colder.
So?
Interesting stat for Colgate in their loss to Q.
Colgate tallied two extra-attacker goals in a game for a third straight season with Austin and Dauda's last-minute goals (http://ecachockey.com/men/2017-18/Game_Stories/20180501_Colgate-QU)
Per http://collegehockeystats.net, Union at Harvard is on "NESN Plus" today at 3:30.
Watching Union at Harvard and Bright is empty. It looks like footage of those games where there's an outbreak and they ban the fans.
Union at Harvard was 1-0 Union for most of the game but has become interested with a slew of goals in the third making it 3-3 with 8:40 left (and on ILDN in addition to NESN).
Union goes on pp with 2 mins to go and still tied 3-3.
Now going to ot.
Harvard wins in the final 10 seconds, taking the face off in their D zone setting up a perfect pass and a nice deek move. Union led 1-0, 2-1, and 3-2 and gets bupkus, and next plays Clarkson.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard wins in the final 10 seconds, taking the face off in their D zone setting up a perfect pass and a nice deek move. Union led 1-0, 2-1, and 3-2 and gets bupkus, and next plays Clarkson.
After watching the OT I decided to watch Harvard's highlight reel of the Cornell game and they don't show the Cornell goals. Both Harvard goals, an open-ice hit and some near misses but other than the fact that the opening title card said "L 3-2" and there was a scoreboard chyron, you'd think they won 2-0. lol
Free video tonight:
www.rpitv.org
Donato trio PO'd after one period - down 1-0.
Beginning of OT.
Former Cornell recruit Donovan Ott will be going to RPI, quite soon actually. Does anyone recall why he decommitted?
https://twitter.com/DonovanOtt12/status/951581529955848198
Q and Harvard just tied 2-2.
Quote from: Jim HylaQ and Harvard just tied 2-2.
I'll take that.
Western Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.
Quote from: BeeeejWestern Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.
And Ohio State's win over Penn State jumped them over Denver to move up to #5.
Quote from: BeeeejWestern Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.
the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.
i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejWestern Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.
the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.
i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.
We ain't shitty.....::burnout::
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejWestern Michigan's win over St. Cloud State last night was enough to drop St. Cloud's #3 in the PWR much closer to #4 than to #2, and WMU is leading 2-1 in the 2nd tonight. Could be an interesting end to the weekend.
the tie to yale dropped us under .6 and the win over brown didn't pick us back up.
i really am still in disbelief that clarkson has the #1 team in the country.
Must be their coach's mentor?
::whistle::
Mark Morris ?
More disruption in Canton: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/01/11_Finkelstein-Leaving-St-Lawrence.php
https://deadspin.com/how-this-hockey-team-will-run-tonight-s-game-in-an-empt-1822159326
I don't see what the big deal is. Dartmouth has been playing in an empty arena for quite some time now.
:P
Quote from: KenPMore disruption in Canton: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/01/11_Finkelstein-Leaving-St-Lawrence.php
He'll be playing at BC in the fall, per his Twitter account.
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: KenPMore disruption in Canton: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/01/11_Finkelstein-Leaving-St-Lawrence.php
He'll be playing at BC in the fall, per his Twitter account.
Nice step up for the kid
All I can say is, wow. (http://www.espn.com/espnw/life-style/article/22123577/the-move-love-hate-downhill-ice-skater-amanda-trunzo-burpee-box-jump-over)
Has anybody ever seen this? I ski, but I can't imagine going downhill on skates.
I'm going to have to watch replays of this. (http://crashedice.redbull.com/en_US/event/saint-paul-2#live)
wait.. that isnt just a mario cart track!!!
The ultimate bro sport (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC635rC_1Us).
I first saw this on Facebook a few weeks ago.
https://www.facebook.com/Thrillist/videos/vb.101800100890/10155872899895891/?type=2&theater
Quote from: upprdeckwait.. that isnt just a mario cart track!!!
Sure looks like one. But no coins. No stars!
sucks and Clarkson tied at 3 after 2 periods. Shots are 21-20 Clarkson. Sounds pretty even.
Now 5-5 halfway through the 3rd. So much for goaltending.
Final 6-6 OT.
to catch Clarkson thats a good result, to create space with Harvard we might have wanted to see Clarkson win.
Union at Brown on ILDN because it's not 7:30. Looks like 100 people in the rink.
Dartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.
Quote from: TrotskyDartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.
Final 3-2 Dartmouth.
St.Cloud also loses.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyDartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.
Final 3-2 Dartmouth.
St.Cloud also loses.
We're #2 in the Pairwise now
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyDartmouth leading in Potsdam 2-1 halfway through.
Final 3-2 Dartmouth.
St.Cloud also loses.
We're #2 in the Pairwise now
...and are also tied for 1st in the ECAC
Quote from: BearLoverWe're #2 in the Pairwise now
Just after the Colgate game ended we were second by 1/10,000th of a point. Checking now, just after midnight, that's up to 4/1,000th of a point.
ND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.
Quote from: martyND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
5 - zip. Whoa.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
5 - zip. Whoa.
Not sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.
This week's polls are going to be fun.
Quote from: martyND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.
The CBC/AP reports (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/hockey/mens-olympic-hockey-practice-1.4493901) that Team Canada will play an exhibition game on 1/28, but U.S. players won't have practices or exhibitions before they have to show up in South Korea on Feb. 8.
Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea after the first Beanpot game (against BU on 2/5). Harvard will be without him for the rest of the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many? He'll likely also miss games against Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: martyND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is no mention of that in the ND recap.
According to the Team USA web site (https://www.teamusa.org/PyeongChang-2018-Olympic-Winter-Games/Team-USA/Sport-Previews/Ice-Hockey---Men), the USA hockey team will start practicing in South Korea about a week before the games begin.
Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea the following week. Harvard will be without him for the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many Beanpot failures? He'll likely also miss games against Dartmouth, Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.
Quote from: toddloseQuote from: SwampyQuote from: martyND hit a speed bump today losing their 4th of the season to lowly Wisconsin.
They played in the United Center in Chicago. Did the Olympic roster kick in? There is not mention of that in the ND recap.
According to the Team USA web site (https://www.teamusa.org/PyeongChang-2018-Olympic-Winter-Games/Team-USA/Sport-Previews/Ice-Hockey---Men), the USA hockey team will start practicing in South Korea about a week before the games begin.
Since Ryan Donato scored almost 1/3 of Harvard's goals this season, I checked out Harvard's schedule. As luck would have it, he should still be in the U.S. next weekend and leave for Korea the following week. Harvard will be without him for the Beanpot, but what difference would another Beanpot loss make when Harvard already has so many Beanpot failures? He'll likely also miss games against Dartmouth, Union, SLU, Clarkson, Brown, & Yale. He should be back in time for the ECAC tourney.
I edited my post because the CBC/AP page includes info on Team Canada and has more specific info on Team USA. I believe CBC/AP & Team USA sites are consistent in that Feb. 9-10 is probably (I haven't bothered to check) about a week before the hockey event starts.
QuoteNot sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.
CHN's is correct.
For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?
Quote from: CU2007For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?
Last I heard it was through next year (http://www.whiteface.com/news/2016/03/ecac-men-s-championship-remain-lake-placid). If Cornell and Clarkson are regulars they will have no trouble with attendance and I would expect another 3-year extension.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: CU2007For how much longer is the ECAC tournament tied to Lake Placid? Have there been any developments on locations recently?
Last I heard it was through next year (http://www.whiteface.com/news/2016/03/ecac-men-s-championship-remain-lake-placid). If Cornell and Clarkson are regulars they will have no trouble with attendance and I would expect another 3-year extension.
Last year was my 1st LP experience, and despite the longer drive it has Albany beat hands-down in every respect.
Quote from: adamwQuoteNot sure what to think of the ratings posted on CHN & USCHO. USCHO has us tied w/ ND for #1 in the pairwise, but CHN has us still #2. USCHO has us listed #2 in the RPI although both our raw RPI and our adjusted RPI are higher than ND's (.5954 > .5953 & .5974* > .5969*). CHN has us #1 in RPI, .597 > .595. But ND is still #1 in the KRACH on both.
CHN's is correct.
Sure CHN is correct, but there is really no difference between them. In both we are tied in pairwise comparisons won, 58 each. That's because ND wins the comparison with us, but they lose the comparison to Denver and we beat the Denver comparison. The easiest way to see that is on CHN's site, click on Pairwise Grid. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php)
So both CHN and USCHO show the comparison at 58. That ties us with ND for first, so USCHO shows the tie. However I believe the tie-breaker is RPI and therefore ND gets the first spot.
If you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi) You'll probably find more than you want.
Quote from: Jim HylaIf you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi) You'll probably find more than you want.
Thanks, Jim. Signed ... the author of the Primer.
::nut::
Quote from: adamwQuote from: Jim HylaIf you want to understand all the ins and outs, on the Ratings tag on CHN's site, click on Primer. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi) You'll probably find more than you want.
Thanks, Jim. Signed ... the author of the Primer.
::nut::
You're welcome, deservedly so.
Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.
Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.
Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.
Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd
Now heading in OT. The game is on ESPN2.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.
Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.
Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.
Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.
Beginning of OT for ND @ Minn on ESPN2
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Duluth crushing St.Cloud, 5-0 after 2.
Notre Dame and Minny scoreless starting the 3rd.
Denver losing 2-0 to NoDak in the 2nd.
Would it be too much to ask for Cornell & Clarkson to be 1 & 2 after tonight? That would be fun.
Beginning of OT for ND @ Minn on ESPN2
Minny wins!
Minny wins it with 1:25 left in OT!
We're # 1? Maybe?
oh my. ohhhhhh my.
Quote from: ugarteoh my. ohhhhhh my.
You said it!
i've got the vapors
Oh, boy! Is this great! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I)
IMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day. Hopefully we win tonight and can see an uptick in the polls on Monday.
(And yes... much more important is our ranking and polls at the end of the season....)
Quote from: KenPIMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day.
At least we don't have a fat orange asshole tweeting about it every time we hit a PWR milestone.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: KenPIMO hitting a PWR milestone on a Friday is like the Dow or NASDAQ breaking a record in the middle of the trading day.
At least we don't have a fat orange asshole tweeting about it every time we hit a PWR milestone.
Hear, hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USCHO has ND with a higher RPI than CHN, so we are only 1t on their pairwise page.
Any idea why USCHO and CHN differ?
Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlF0dRECUI0&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: nshapiroUSCHO has ND with a higher RPI than CHN, so we are only 1t on their pairwise page.
Any idea why USCHO and CHN differ?
I was wondering the same thing. Screenshots:
Princeton Announces it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/princeton/20182701_Princeton_Cham_Weekend)
QuoteThe Princeton men's hockey program is pleased to announce it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 to honor the championship teams of 1998 and 2008.
QuoteA ceremonial puck drop will be held with Princeton hockey alums and Stanley Cup champions George Parros '03 and Kevin Westgarth '07.
Neither of whom were on the championship teams.::screwy::
Anybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at http://clarksonathletics.com/sports/2017/9/16/clarkson-mens-hockey-from-cheel-arena.aspx ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.
Quote from: BeeeejAnybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at http://clarksonathletics.com/sports/2017/9/16/clarkson-mens-hockey-from-cheel-arena.aspx ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.
Never mind - 2-2 tie, OT final. Wow.
Y and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioY and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.
Aren't you glad we didn't face
that Colton Point last weekend?
The only other team in the top half of the ECAC to earn 2 league points was Colgate, who took care of Harvard. Another good night.
Quote from: BeeeejAnybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at http://clarksonathletics.com/sports/2017/9/16/clarkson-mens-hockey-from-cheel-arena.aspx ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.
I had it up, starting at about a minute into the OT. The picture quality was horrendous. I thought it could be an issue on my end, but then my daughter connected and the feed was terrible for her too.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejAnybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at http://clarksonathletics.com/sports/2017/9/16/clarkson-mens-hockey-from-cheel-arena.aspx ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.
Never mind - 2-2 tie, OT final. Wow.
Crazy result the night after Brown handed SLU their first conference win of the season.
Cornell's alone at the top of the ECAC!
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanNotre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlF0dRECUI0&feature=youtu.be
Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, https://www.foxsportsgo.com/event/326428/college-hockey-notre-dame-at-minnesota
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BigRedHockeyFanNotre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlF0dRECUI0&feature=youtu.be
Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, https://www.foxsportsgo.com/event/326428/college-hockey-notre-dame-at-minnesota
Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BigRedHockeyFanNotre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlF0dRECUI0&feature=youtu.be
Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, https://www.foxsportsgo.com/event/326428/college-hockey-notre-dame-at-minnesota
Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.
i think if you have FS1 you can watch any of the regional stuff online. At least I can.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BigRedHockeyFanNotre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlF0dRECUI0&feature=youtu.be
Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, https://www.foxsportsgo.com/event/326428/college-hockey-notre-dame-at-minnesota
Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.
i think if you have FS1 you can watch any of the regional stuff online. At least I can.
Turns out you're correct, so I can stream it on my laptop, but not on the FS Go app on my iPhone for some reason, and mirroring to the AppleTV from the laptop sucks. The game's essentially over anyway, and Notre Dame's about to retake the lead in PWR by virtue of their higher RPI.
Quote from: Jim HylaPrinceton Announces it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/princeton/20182701_Princeton_Cham_Weekend)
QuoteThe Princeton men's hockey program is pleased to announce it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 to honor the championship teams of 1998 and 2008.
QuoteA ceremonial puck drop will be held with Princeton hockey alums and Stanley Cup champions George Parros '03 and Kevin Westgarth '07.
Neither of whom were on the championship teams.::screwy::
Really? For an ECAC title?
Notre Dame's win over Minnesota puts them back up to #1 and drops us to #2. And St. Cloud is nipping at our heels.
Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.
Can't even get a free room.
Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.
Can't even get a free room.
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If I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs. Since the theoretical maximum league points by the 9th place team is 22 (in an absurd situation where there's a 12-way tie at 22 points), by passing that mark against Harvard we guaranteed at least 8th place. Realistically there's probably a way to model out the point at which everyone ending with a 22 point tie becomes no longer possible (example, if St Lawrence won all of their remaining games to get to 22 points that means others would have to lose, and Princeton and Quinnipiac still have to play RPI again, so it's conceivable that would make the maximum achievable points by the 9th place team less than 22 at this point). So maybe we clinched home ice against Colgate. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that if we win out next weekend against Union and RPI and Colgate and Dartmouth both wind up with 2 points or fewer, then we'd clinch a first week bye.
Not to jinx it or anything.
Man I have too much time on my hands.
Quote from: brealy_myersIf I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs.
Correct (http://playoffstatus.com/ecachockey/ecacstandings.html) if you mean we have secured a home playoff series. Obviously we could still play a road QF series. Our magic number (http://playoffstatus.com/ecachockey/ecacwinmagicnumbers.html) for clinching a 1R bye is 3.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: brealy_myersIf I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs.
Correct (http://playoffstatus.com/ecachockey/ecacstandings.html) if you mean we have secured a home playoff series. Obviously we could still play a road QF series. Our magic number (http://playoffstatus.com/ecachockey/ecacwinmagicnumbers.html) for clinching a 1R bye is 3.
And that's the one that really matters.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioY and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.
During the game.
Quote from: BeeeejJust in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.
Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: BeeeejJust in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.
Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.
I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. (http://www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/College-Hockey-Quinnipiac-suffers-12538488.php) The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: IcebergQuote from: BeeeejJust in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.
Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.
I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. (http://www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/College-Hockey-Quinnipiac-suffers-12538488.php) The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."
For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both. But I do think we match up better against Princeton, especially at Lynah where we'd have the last change and can put out the best personnel to neutralize Princeton's strong top line.
Quote from: scoop85For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.
That would be a neat trick!
The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: scoop85For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.
That would be a neat trick!
The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.
::crazy::
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: scoop85For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.
That would be a neat trick!
The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.
Q must have had one disallowed. ::whistle::
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: IcebergQuote from: BeeeejJust in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.
Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.
I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. (http://www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/College-Hockey-Quinnipiac-suffers-12538488.php) The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."
That game vs. Princeton was atypical in that Q was outshot. On the season as a whole Q has been throwing a ton of pucks on net but just not scoring. Given how good their possession metrics are I think they're getting very unlucky and I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs.
Quote from: BearLoverThat game vs. Princeton was atypical in that Q was outshot. On the season as a whole Q has been throwing a ton of pucks on net but just not scoring. Given how good their possession metrics are I think they're getting very unlucky and I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs.
Their goaltending hasn't panned out either.
Guess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...
http://www.bbc.com/sport/ice-hockey/42893140
Quote from: gonyrGuess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...
http://www.bbc.com/sport/ice-hockey/42893140
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: gonyrGuess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...
http://www.bbc.com/sport/ice-hockey/42893140
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
At least NHS covers the syphilis.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: gonyrGuess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...
http://www.bbc.com/sport/ice-hockey/42893140
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
At least NHS covers the syphilis.
Does that make it a pre-medicated act?
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
Quote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).
Quote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
Q sounds like a dangerous team. They've got terrible goaltending numbers and one of the worst shooting percentages in the NCAA to go along with it, but they're among the best on close possession metrics. I've heard really mixed reviews of their play from people on this board, so I suspect they're inconsistent. All of that adds up to upset potential for me - a couple of good decent games from their goaltender, a change in their shooting fortunes, or just their Dr. Jekyll team showing up could really ruin somebody's weekend in a league playoff series.
Quote from: Tom Lentothey're among the best on close possession metrics.
Linky? Here (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/team/Cornell/18/advanced,20172018) or someplace else.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Tom Lentothey're among the best on close possession metrics.
Linky? Here (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/team/Cornell/18/advanced,20172018) or someplace else.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv
If you sort by CF% in the "close" section you'll see Q in third. Even strength is probably a little more robust but it's the same basic story as far as Q is concerned. Fenwick shows the same general ranking.
Fun fact: the ECAC has 6 of the bottom 7 teams in the NCAA in shooting percentage - RPI, Q, Colgate, Dartmouth, Yale, and Brown. Of those, Yale and Q are near the top in terms of possession - better than Cornell, although Yale's schedule strength is even worse than Cornell's.
If shooting percentage really is a regression to the mean stat in college hockey I'd expect the ECAC to be stronger next season on that basis alone. Of course, it might also just be that those teams all have shot-happy home scorekeepers.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).
and now there's another example
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).
and now there's another example
We're only down to #3, though. So far.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).
and now there's another example
We're only down to #3, though. So far.
Down to #4 with Denver's win.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: IcebergQ didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.
And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).
and now there's another example
We're only down to #3, though. So far.
Down to #4 with Denver's win.
USCHO is showing us tied in comparisons with Denver but ahead on RPI; CHN has us in 4th.
I like #4. Gets us a top seed and avoids the target of #1 overall. The perfect sleeper ranking!!1!
The Beanpot starts today at 5 PM with BC/Northeastern and then BU/Harvard later. The best case scenario would probably be BU or Harvard winning against Northeastern in the final.
Quote from: IcebergThe Beanpot starts today at 5 PM with BU/Harvard. That game probably won't do much for the pairwise, but I imagine if either team wins the championship that would provide a boost. Best scenario I would imagine is either one of them facing Northeastern in the final and winning.
From my tweaking, it looks like a Harvard victory over either Northeastern or BC in the final puts us back up to #3 in the PWR - and as far as I can tell, no other result lifts us out of #4, but I'm not 100% sure I tried all the combos.
Hilarious Beanpot moment: halfway through the 2nd period announcers are reading a commercial deploring baldness and promoting a hair replacement product while the camera pans over to Ted Donato's gleaming pate.::banana::
The Bu Harvard beanpot game is a super entertaining up and down track meet heading into the second overtime right now. If you are up and have access to 5he game, definitely time in. NESN 851 IN boston.
Also, currently back to 3 in the pwr after northeastern beat bc in the flat game.
BU beats Harvard.
If I understand PWR correctly, it would have been more helpful to us had Harvard won because we beat them twice but BU only once.
Still, it feels good whenever Harvard loses. It also feels good when BU loses, but this is based on a rivalry that peaked about 50 years ago.
Since we often don't care who wins BU/Harvard matchup, it's one in which we often can't lose.
Quote from: SwampyBU beats Harvard.
If I understand PWR correctly, it would have been more helpful to us had Harvard won because we beat them twice but BU only once.
Still, it feels good whenever Harvard loses. It also feels good when BU loses, but this is based on a rivalry that peaked about 50 years ago.
Since we often don't care who wins BU/Harvard matchup, it's one in which we often can't lose.
I wasn't watching the numbers live, but if Northeastern's win put us in #3, BU's win dropped us back down to #4. And what
should be the best result for us next Monday, Harvard and BU wins, doesn't do enough to put us back up to #3 on its own.
Plenty of other games between now and then, though, including a couple of important ones for us. So just win.
Quote from: RichHThis will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/12/06_St-Lawrence-Hires-Firm-to.php
According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.
And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/02/08_Investigation-Finds-No-Wrongdoing.php)
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: RichHThis will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/12/06_St-Lawrence-Hires-Firm-to.php
According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.
And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/02/08_Investigation-Finds-No-Wrongdoing.php)
"Investigation Finds St. Lawrence Winning Again"
"And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU."
It's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.
That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.
Alabama Huntsville almost took down Minn-State last night. Could have been a pairwise plus. They get another chance tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhFN7KZi2s
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanIt's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.
That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.
SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BigRedHockeyFanIt's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.
That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.
SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.
"Pasting" Colgate indeed :-}
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BigRedHockeyFanIt's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.
That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.
SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.
"Pasting" Colgate indeed :-}
i would climb the highest mountain to speak to the most powerful wizard to make a wish to take that back
Tie for second in the league now between Clarkson and Union.
Clarkson blows a 2 goal lead with 10 to play and ties Colgate 4-4, so we are now up 4 with 4 to play.
Ohio State is blowing out Notre Dame - now 5-1.
Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.
Quote from: scoop85Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.
Did it make the real OT rule or was it one of those dumb tourney tie breakers?
Edit: 02:43 of OT. Good.
Interesting how after PWR has tracked RPI almost exactly since December, now 2 and 3 are inverted.
Quote from: scoop85Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.
Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.
Northeastern has a scary top line. They're the kind of team that can make either make a run or fizzle out in their first big game (almost like Union last year).
I saw NE play once live.. they have really good speed on the top line, they play almost no solid D on the backend, if you can get the puck in deep. but they also play keep away at times on the offensive end..
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.
Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.
2018 Beanpot final: Northeastern 5, BU 2. First time in 30 years, 5th title in 66 years for Northeastern. http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2018/02/12/boston-university-vs-northeastern-2/
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: scoop85Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.
Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.
2018 Beanpot final: Northeastern 5, BU 2. First time in 30 years, 5th title in 66 years for Northeastern. http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2018/02/12/boston-university-vs-northeastern-2/
And we're back up to 3rd in the pairwise.
It wasn't the Sucks win. We were still 4th after that. Maybe Air Force's loss today? IDK.
Clarkson last nine games: 1-4-4
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
She moves in mysterious ways.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
She moves in mysterious ways.
It's alright. It's alright.
And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
She moves in mysterious ways.
It's alright. It's alright.
And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.
UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanClarkson last nine games: 1-4-4
Daredevilcu, who visits here occasionally, posted an eye catching stat on the Clarkson board for their goalie:
"First 22 games of the season - 28 goals allowed, 1.27 gaa
Last 9 games - 27 goals allowed, 3.00 gaa"
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
She moves in mysterious ways.
It's alright. It's alright.
And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.
UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.
No. The issue is that tonight's Denver result isn't on yet. If Denver wins tonight, the pwr looks like this:
1. St cloud,
2. Denver.
3 notre dame
4. Cornell
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: SwampyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.
Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.
Both games now final with those scores.
...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.
She moves in mysterious ways.
It's alright. It's alright.
And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.
UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.
No. The issue is that tonight's Denver result isn't on yet. If Denver wins tonight, the pwr looks like this:
1. St cloud,
2. Denver.
3 notre dame
4. Cornell
Yes, and unfortunately DU 5 > CC 1
Clarkson loses again, but this time they give up 5 goals. They'll host P and Q next weekend but at the rate they're going they might play themselves right out of a NCAA bid.
Quote from: IcebergClarkson loses again, but this time they give up 5 goals. They'll host P and Q next weekend but at the rate they're going they might play themselves right out of a NCAA bid.
Clarkson has gone 1-5-4 since a January 16 College Hockey News article headlined "Clarkson is Here to Stay."::thud::
Clarkson SUCKS. hope we get them in LP semis and not Harvard. Are they in danger in blowing an at large bid if they keep this up?
Quote from: CU2007Clarkson SUCKS. hope we get them in LP semis and not Harvard. Are they in danger in blowing an at large bid if they keep this up?
So far, no. But if the trend continues, maybe.
Denver loses to Colorado College 1-0, and they're down to 5th, Cornell up to 3rd, Minnesota State - Mankato up to 4th.
next weekend is key, wins there against a hot Union team and we cant get more than 2 more losses and probably stay around top 8 and a good seed.. get to the semis and we may stay a top 4 seed
Win Lake Placid and let the NC$$ take care of itself.
No question game(s) of the week coming up will be the pair of games Denver at St Cloud.
Without doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.
Quote from: RobbWithout doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.
I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.
Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: RobbWithout doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.
I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.
Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.
I ran the script on chn and added only possible results for the two st cloud v Denver games.
If st cloud sweeps:
1 St. Cloud State 59 .6121
2 Notre Dame 57 .5908
3 Cornell 57 .5847
4 Minnesota State 56 .5774
5 Denver 56 .5703
6 Ohio State
If they split:
1 St. Cloud State 59 .6014
2 Notre Dame 57 .5909
3 Cornell 57 .5847
4 Denver 57 .5809
5 Minnesota State 55 .5769
6 Ohio State
Denver sweep;
1 Denver 59 .5907
2 Notre Dame 58 .5913
3 St. Cloud State 57 .5908
4 Cornell 56 .5848
5 Minnesota State 5765
6 Ohio State
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
Notre Dame just lost to Michigan, 1-0. Pairwise not updated yet, but I'm guessing we may be up to second.
Michigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Quote from: Jim HylaMichigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR
Still in 3rd. Lose to Notre Dame in RPI .5848 to .5871.
Quote from: toddloseQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.
For as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.
Wow. I did miss that.
Quote from: toddloseQuote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.
Wow. I did miss that.
And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: toddloseQuote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
That's the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.
Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.
Wow. I did miss that.
And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.
I knew that. Just saying, without looking at pairwise, Clarkson has 3 ooc opponents better than any one of ours.
Quote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartei'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered
Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.
And has played their last 4 games with senior Racine in goal as Point is injured.
Quote from: DafatoneFor as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.
The funny thing about Hockey East is that the team likely to finish 1st in the conference--BC--hasn't beaten a single OOC opponent. It's a good thing that the CC Rule doesn't exist anymore. The thought that at one time a team could theoretically get into the NCAA's by winning its conference is hilarious given this situation.
You know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?
Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.
Not that I suspect anyone was worried, but there is no set of results for tonight's two games (one AH, one HE) that would affect Cornell's spot in the PWR more than the tiniest insignificant amount.
Quote from: DafatoneYou know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?
Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.
Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.
Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.
Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneYou know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?
Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.
Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.
Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.
Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.
Looks like an advertisement to stay clear of the "Big Red Machine".
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: DafatoneYou know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?
Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.
Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.
Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.
Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.
Looks like an advertisement to stay clear of the "Big Red Machine".
It also shows we played a really, really shitty schedule this year.
tied at 3 and the clock winding down in OT and Clarkson - Princeton have an actual brawl. not sure about punches (i saw a few swings but nothing squared up) but people thrown to the ice. wild.
there were no edits forget what it says down there
ACTUAL EDIT: well i guess the boxscore tells the story of the brawl as Riche of Princeton was hit with a cross-checking major and a DQ.
Gate-Union in OT and Princeton-Clarkson going to OT. Both ties final now.
Sucks loses to Brown.
Duluth crushes Western, 8-0! Wow.
Donato played for Harvard tonight and had a PP goal and an assist. So much for jet lag.
Dartmouth also takes out Yale, so they're locked into the 5th spot and will host SLU next weekend.
Nice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
Quote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
Forget about it. If they're gonna rape us then they will. All we can do is win.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
St. Cloud State and Denver heading to OT on CBS Sports Network. A Denver win would vault them back over us and knock us down to #4, so we want St. Cloud or a tie.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
I think his joke is historically backwards (and also historically bad) though
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
I think his joke is historically backwards (and also historically bad) though
And bearlover once again brings a criticism without offer of something better.
Quote from: BeeeejSt. Cloud State and Denver heading to OT on CBS Sports Network. A Denver win would vault them back over us and knock us down to #4, so we want St. Cloud or a tie.
Tied after 5-on-5 OT, now going to 3-on-3 OT. ::wank::
Quote from: BeeeejSt. Cloud State and Denver heading to OT on CBS Sports Network. A Denver win would vault them back over us and knock us down to #4, so we want St. Cloud or a tie.
Since OT #1 is over, is this game now a tie for RPI calculations ?
Quote from: martyQuote from: BeeeejSt. Cloud State and Denver heading to OT on CBS Sports Network. A Denver win would vault them back over us and knock us down to #4, so we want St. Cloud or a tie.
Since OT #1 is over, is this game now a tie for RPI calculations ?
I believe so, yes. As far as the NCAA is concerned this was a tie.
speculating on what the do with that bracket is still too far away.. In the end they still worry costs too so until all the teams are decided who knows what will happen.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: martyQuote from: BeeeejSt. Cloud State and Denver heading to OT on CBS Sports Network. A Denver win would vault them back over us and knock us down to #4, so we want St. Cloud or a tie.
Since OT #1 is over, is this game now a tie for RPI calculations ?
I believe so, yes. As far as the NCAA is concerned this was a tie.
Denver scores in the pseudo-OT to get the extra point for standings purposes, but officially it's a 1-1 Final/OT.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
I think his joke is historically backwards (and also historically bad) though
And bearlover once again brings a criticism without offer of something better.
And like a predictive model that relies on KRACH, no rape joke is better than any rape joke
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: abmarksQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
I think his joke is historically backwards (and also historically bad) though
And bearlover once again brings a criticism without offer of something better.
And like a predictive model that relies on KRACH, no rape joke is better than any rape joke
Rape jokes: forever funnier and yet more informative than a bearlover post
Quote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
I wonder if, instead of shipping us out west AND shipping a western team east all to take care of a 4 seed NoDak team, they would just swap NoDak with the 3. The Atlantic Hockey winner will be the 16 seed, right? So NoDak would be, at lowest, 15. Swapping them with the 12 seems less disruptive than putting two 1 seeds in wrong time zones.
Then again, maybe the 5 is also in NoDak's conference.
Right now, with Mankato one if the top 4, it's likely they'll get to be the sacrificial lamb for NoDak. They aren't in the same conf. as NoDak so it's OK if they play each other in the first round. That's a bit of a screw-over for St.Cloud fans, since they'll have to come east, but I'd rather travel and play AHA than stay close to home and play a "home" game at NoDak.
If Denver moves back up to #4, it gets dicey for us since neither St.Cloud nor Denver can play NoDak in round 1. In that case, the lower seed of Notre Dame or us probably gets screwed.
OTOH, if NoDak moves up to 12th, then which of the top 4 play them is irrelevant (duh!). They can seed the top 4 strictly on geography. This is why I've been saying we want NoDak to keep winning (or to crash out of the tourney entirely). But this hovering around 12 and 13 is nerve-wracking.
And if something should happen and we drop into the 5-8 band, I'd have to hope that with the dearth of eastern teams in the tourney, they'd try to keep us east for attendance. But I don't really want to think like that. Just win, baby.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: ugarteQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverNice OT win over North Dakota for Miami, which helps us in the Pairwise...but isn't a first-round road game vs ND becoming increasingly likely?
If they're gonna rape us then they will.
wut
greg's being hilariously edgy again and it's probably you who doesn't get it
I think his joke is historically backwards (and also historically bad) though
You can't hold a really good auto da fe unless the subject is present.
I withdraw the terrible word choice.
If they're going to screw us then they will.
I respect every one of the outraged exactly to the degree he has done something of substance in his life to help women victims. Surely none of you are hypocrites.
As I mentioned in the Union game thread - after the loss we're still miraculously #3 in the PWR, by one ten-thousandth of a point over Minnesota State, who is currently down 0-1 to Bemidji State in the second. We also still want Denver to lose if possible; they're down 1-2 to SCSU in the second.
1st ECAC round is set.
SLU/Dartmouth
RPI/Colgate
Brown/Princeton
QU/Yale
St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.
Quote from: redlinerQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.
and a win over union would have flipped the RPI comparison with Notre dame and placed us in solid second chasing st cloud. instead we are barely hanging on to a top-4 position. I don't need to remind you all how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four. we need to do the best we can to get the best seed and the best geographic and opponent draw we can. so you bring your A-game every night and challenge other teams to beat you. we aren't saving galadja like he's some trick play cooked up by boise state for a bowl game. you can bet union is watching tape of galadja's games. barring extenuating circumstances, you don't bench the best goaltender in the country to reward a senior in an away game at that, when you are chasing the championship
Quote from: A-19Quote from: redlinerQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.
and a win over union would have flipped the RPI comparison with Notre dame and placed us in solid second chasing st cloud. instead we are barely hanging on to a top-4 position. I don't need to remind you all how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four.
To quote Mr. Marks, what are you smoking? A comeback win from down 0-2 against Ohio State, then an overtime loss to Minnesota literally on their home ice in 2005? A comeback win from down 0-2 against Colorado College, then a
triple-overtime loss to eventual national champion Wisconsin, in Wisconsin, in 2006? A comeback win from down 0-2 against Northeastern in 2009? (Okay, the next night sucked, at least hockey-wise.) An exciting OT win against Michigan, followed by a hard-fought one-goal loss to Ferris State in 2012? 2010 and last year are the only complete suckage in the NCAA tourney that I can remember since 2003.
Quote from: A-19Quote from: redlinerQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.
and a win over union would have flipped the RPI comparison with Notre dame and placed us in solid second chasing st cloud. instead we are barely hanging on to a top-4 position. I don't need to remind you all how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four. we need to do the best we can to get the best seed and the best geographic and opponent draw we can. so you bring your A-game every night and challenge other teams to beat you. we aren't saving galadja like he's some trick play cooked up by boise state for a bowl game. you can bet union is watching tape of galadja's games. barring extenuating circumstances, you don't bench the best goaltender in the country to reward a senior in an away game at that, when you are chasing the championship
Eh, I would agree with you if Stewart had something like a 3.20 GAA and .870 save percentage coming into the game, but he had been solid in his relatively few opportunities this year.
if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
Our academic and hockey prestige and the advantages those bring us in landing recruits notwithstanding, Cornell will never make the frozen four consistently because we cannot offer scholarships. Period. Stop whining and be realistic.
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
No way we will consistently compete with the "big nationals". We aren't going to put that many resources into it, nor lower our admission standards. We should hope to get to NCAAs and sometimes to FF. And before their new coach, Denver had a dry spell. No one is consistent, ask Q.
We are 8-10 in the NCAAs under Schafer. Of note, one of our first-round NCAA losses was Schafer's first year with McCutcheon's players. The other two were in 2010 and 2017 under an "improved ECAC." Our only Frozen Four appearance was when the ECAC stunk.
I don't want the ECAC to completely stink and the sample size is far too small to reach any conclusions. But there is no evidence Cornell was never capable of winning a national championship, or that it's more nationally competitive as its conference improves. I think if things continued as they had in the mid-2000s we would have won a national title at some point.
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
Take your derp back to the WEEI Hot Takes. We won several games in those NC$$s and were close in several others. Your "winning is the only thing" hurr-durr is risible braindead posturing.
We obviously always want to win, but shitting on the accomplishments of those teams is just sad sack front running. Save it for the Bruins or the Red Sox.
no it's cool let's pat ourselves on the back for trying. everyone gets a trophy
Quote from: A-19no it's cool let's pat ourselves on the back for trying. everyone gets a trophy
It is your choice to be happy or unhappy.
Quote from: BearLoverI don't want the ECAC to completely stink and the sample size is far too small to reach any conclusions. But there is no evidence Cornell was never capable of winning a national championship, or that it's more nationally competitive as its conference improves. I think if things continued as they had in the mid-2000s we would have won a national title at some point.
You're full of beans. And have become even more annoying recently. Sorry to have to say it.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: BearLoverI don't want the ECAC to completely stink and the sample size is far too small to reach any conclusions. But there is no evidence Cornell was never capable of winning a national championship, or that it's more nationally competitive as its conference improves. I think if things continued as they had in the mid-2000s we would have won a national title at some point.
You're full of beans. And have become even more annoying recently. Sorry to have to say it.
Given that some here are saying we were never championship contenders, it's fair to point out that we were. Taking the eventual champions to triple-overtime means we had a team good enough to win it all.
Tournaments are crapshoots.
Quote from: A-19no it's cool let's pat ourselves on the back for trying. everyone gets a trophy
Did I say WEEI? I meant RedState.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: BearLoverI don't want the ECAC to completely stink and the sample size is far too small to reach any conclusions. But there is no evidence Cornell was never capable of winning a national championship, or that it's more nationally competitive as its conference improves. I think if things continued as they had in the mid-2000s we would have won a national title at some point.
You're full of beans. And have become even more annoying recently. Sorry to have to say it.
Lmao, what issue do you even have with that highlighted quote? In five years: two NCAA three-seeds, a two-seed, a first overall-seed, two ECAC championships, making the Frozen Four (losing on a disputed call), losing in OT one year and triple OT to the champs another year, never exiting in the first round, having like fifteen NHL draft picks on those teams, having three Hobey finalists, need I go on? Those teams were extremely good and could have won a national title. Sorry if that annoys you.
Our best team since the 70's lost in the semifinals because of a bad first period that included a bullshit call that waved off a goal and a miracle save in the closing seconds. That was our championship team.
The Wisconsin and Minnesota teams we lost to in 3OT/OT were both better than our teams that year, and we essentially played them to a draw on the road. Thinking it is revisionist history or satisfaction with failure to be honest about those years is insane.
Quote from: A-19Quote from: redlinerQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud beats Denver 4-2 and Bemidji ties Mankato.
We stay in 3rd by 0.003 over Mankato with Denver 5th.
Cornell is fortunate that Denver and Notre Dame lost. Mankato tie also gave Cornell a little breathing room. All things considered, the lost to Union wasn't too bad.
and a win over union would have flipped the RPI comparison with Notre dame and placed us in solid second chasing st cloud. instead we are barely hanging on to a top-4 position. I don't need to remind you all how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four. we need to do the best we can to get the best seed and the best geographic and opponent draw we can. so you bring your A-game every night and challenge other teams to beat you. we aren't saving galadja like he's some trick play cooked up by boise state for a bowl game. you can bet union is watching tape of galadja's games. barring extenuating circumstances, you don't bench the best goaltender in the country to reward a senior in an away game at that, when you are chasing the championship
Apparently, you do. Sunday afternoon coaching 101.
Princeton - Clarkson 2/23/18 - Complete game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKUVDog-Bic
Quinnipiac - Clarkson 2/24/18 - Complete game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5KZMe_KMc
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanPrinceton - Clarkson 2/23/18 - Complete game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKUVDog-Bic
Quinnipiac - Clarkson 2/24/18 - Complete game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5KZMe_KMc
not that there is anything wrong with posting links to the clarkson archives per se but ... why?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
Take your derp back to the WEEI Hot Takes. We won several games in those NC$$s and were close in several others. Your "winning is the only thing" hurr-durr is risible braindead posturing.
It's also amazing how quickly he moved the goalposts from:
Quote from: A-19how poorly Cornell has played in the NCAAs with the exception of the 02-03 run to the frozen four
to "celebrate losses" after I pointed out how many times we'd won in the first round between 2002-03 and now because we played really fucking well. This is the first year in forever that we've had a record this beautiful - and all of a sudden you're so spoiled that coming close isn't good enough anymore, we should be making the Frozen Four every year with no academic scholarships and massively higher academic standards?
Quote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
This take is off-the-charts awful
Quote from: adamwQuote from: A-19if we are going to compete with the big national programs we need to do more than celebrate losses in the NCAA regionals. teams like nodal and Minny and bc and Denver are making the frozen four consistently. talking about how close we got doesn't cut it anymore.
This take is off-the-charts awful
We'v had a lot of that here lately.
Some quotes from USCHO TMQ. (http://www.uscho.com/2018/02/27/tmq-discussing-mercyhursts-run-upcoming-conference-playoffs-cayden-primeau/)
QuoteI think Cornell could be a strong favorite in the ECAC based on how well this team played during the season, but you have so many others who could compete. Harvard may be looking at its final games with Ryan Donato and have always been a strong postseason team. Clarkson is so strong and will be an NCAA team. Even sixth-seeded Dartmouth had some great games down the stretch.
Really, Harvard always a strong post-season team?::screwy::
Dartmouth is fifth.
Editors are needed.
Oh well!
Quote from: Jim HylaSome quotes from USCHO TMQ. (http://www.uscho.com/2018/02/27/tmq-discussing-mercyhursts-run-upcoming-conference-playoffs-cayden-primeau/)
QuoteI think Cornell could be a strong favorite in the ECAC based on how well this team played during the season, but you have so many others who could compete. Harvard may be looking at its final games with Ryan Donato and have always been a strong postseason team. Clarkson is so strong and will be an NCAA team. Even sixth-seeded Dartmouth had some great games down the stretch.
Really, Harvard always a strong post-season team?::screwy::
Dartmouth is fifth.
Editors are needed.
Oh well!
I read that article and thought "Not a mention of Union?" They have no credibility.
Obviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:
"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble. A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU. Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.
Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:
"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble. A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
Nice, thanks
Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:
"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble. A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU. Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.
Mankato, NoDak, and St. Cloud all won in the "bad news" side. CC, BU, & Canisius all won (Canisius only won 8-1), and it's always good news when Harvard loses.
According to CHN, Notre Dame leads Cornell in RPI 0.5797 to 0.5796 after Friday's games. Clarkson is down to #12. They're guaranteed to lose at most one game before the selections, so they've got that going for them. (?)
Quote from: RichHQuote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:
"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble. A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU. Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.
Mankato, NoDak, and St. Cloud all won in the "bad news" side. CC, BU, & Canisius all won (Canisius only won 8-1), and it's always good news when Harvard loses.
According to CHN, Notre Dame leads Cornell in RPI 0.5797 to 0.5796 after Friday's games. Clarkson is down to #12. They're guaranteed to lose at most one game before the selections, so they've got that going for them. (?)
With the Denver loss it essentially is a 4-horse race for the last three #1 seeds. I won't call it percentage but our "likelihood score" for a #1 seed increased fron 71 to 82. I like that trend.
Quote from: KenPWith the Denver loss it essentially is a 4-horse race for the last three #1 seeds. I won't call it percentage but our "likelihood score" for a #1 seed increased fron 71 to 82. I like that trend.
By these (http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html) numbers:
.88 Notre Dame
.82 Cornell
.81 Mankato
.55 Ohio State
I don't know why the line on that table is after 14. Atlantic is the one conference whose highest team is outside the top 16, so why isn't the line after 15? All I got is the line movers for HE have a > .50 chance of winning the AQ.
NoDak must go down and they must go down hard. BU, BC, and NMU are the best bets, unless UNO can handle it directly.
Very sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital (http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/10/rensselaer-assistant-coach-graham-struck-by-car-in-icu-at-albany-medical-hospital/) and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/10_RPI-Assistant-Coach-Struck.php).
Here's the GoFundMe page. (https://www.gofundme.com/nolan-graham-support) Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
Quote from: Jim HylaVery sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital (http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/10/rensselaer-assistant-coach-graham-struck-by-car-in-icu-at-albany-medical-hospital/) and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/10_RPI-Assistant-Coach-Struck.php).
Here's the GoFundMe page. (https://www.gofundme.com/nolan-graham-support) Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
Guy fractures his skull, needs money for therapy to recover. Be nice if RPI medical for professors and staff covered that.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: Jim HylaVery sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital (http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/10/rensselaer-assistant-coach-graham-struck-by-car-in-icu-at-albany-medical-hospital/) and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/10_RPI-Assistant-Coach-Struck.php).
Here's the GoFundMe page. (https://www.gofundme.com/nolan-graham-support) Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
Guy fractures his skull, needs money for therapy to recover. Be nice if RPI medical for professors and staff covered that.
One would hope/expect that RPI's medical coverage would include such things. (Even Obamacare, if we still have it.) Maybe the GoFundMe is to support his family if RPI stops paying him while he's out of commission.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: Jim HylaVery sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital (http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/10/rensselaer-assistant-coach-graham-struck-by-car-in-icu-at-albany-medical-hospital/) and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/10_RPI-Assistant-Coach-Struck.php).
Here's the GoFundMe page. (https://www.gofundme.com/nolan-graham-support) Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
Guy fractures his skull, needs money for therapy to recover. Be nice if RPI medical for professors and staff covered that.
One would hope/expect that RPI's medical coverage would include such things. (Even Obamacare, if we still have it.) Maybe the GoFundMe is to support his family if RPI stops paying him while he's out of commission.
And wouldn't the insurance carried by the driver of the vehicle who hit him supposedly be responsible for all these costs? I'm not saying it's not wonderful when a community pulls together, and I really hope he's going to be okay, it's just a little weird.
Quote from: KenPObviously all games are important this time of year but here are a few OOC series to watch for their direct impact to Cornell in the NC$$ Tourney:
"Important" Games
WCHA -- Michigan Tech vs Minnesota State -- MSU is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
NCHC -- Nebraska Omaha vs North Dakota -- both teams are on the bubble. A North Dakota loss will go a long way to Cornell avoiding a trip to Sioux Falls
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Penn State vs Notre Dame -- At this point Penn State is a virtual lock for the tournament. Better to have them win and hurt the Irish who are vying for a #1 seed
(Saturday Only) Big Ten -- Michigan vs Ohio State -- Ohio State is one of the teams vying for a #1 seed
Other Games to watch
NCHC -- Colorado College vs Denver -- Denver still has an outside shot at #1 seed but this series has less as impact than other results
NCHC -- Miami vs St. Could State -- Miami wins will help our RPI
Hockey East -- UConn vs Boston University -- BU wins will help our RPI (but will also help MSU-Mankato)
Atlantic -- American Int'l vs Canisius -- Canisius wins will help our RPI
ECAC - Dartmouth played Denver. If they lose it will lower Denver's RPI but not impact us or Notre Dame of MSU. Call it a silver lining to the cloud if Sucks wins.
Saturday:
Mankato lost.
North Dakota beat UNO 0:53 in OT, dammit.
Notre Dame got the winning goal vs PSU with 0:31 remaining in regulation.
OSU won 0:32 into OT.
Denver beat CC, 3-2 with two Troy Terry 3rd-period goals.
Miami beat SCSU in OT,
but the winning goal came after the 5:00 mark, so it counts as a tie. (right?)BU sweeps UConn.
Canisius lost in OT,
but the winning goal came after the 5:00 mark, so it counts as a tie.As of 11:06 pm, CHN PWR page has Notre Dame & Cornell's RPI tied to four decimal places, both at 0.5821.
At the end of the Denver win, Notre Dame is now ahead 0.5822 to 0.5821 since ND and Denver played h2h.
Miami wins
Quote from: RichHMiami beat SCSU in OT, but the winning goal came after the 5:00 mark, so it counts as a tie. (right?)
I didn't think so. My understanding is RS games are a tie after 5 minutes because that's the NC$$ rule, but PS tourney games which are "played until there is a winner" are marked as whoever wins no matter how long it takes.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHMiami beat SCSU in OT, but the winning goal came after the 5:00 mark, so it counts as a tie. (right?)
I didn't think so. My understanding is RS games are a tie after 5 minutes because that's the NC$$ rule, but PS tourney games which are "played until there is a winner" are marked as whoever wins no matter how long it takes.
WORKS FOR ME. ::banana::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHMiami beat SCSU in OT, but the winning goal came after the 5:00 mark, so it counts as a tie. (right?)
I didn't think so. My understanding is RS games are a tie after 5 minutes because that's the NC$$ rule, but PS tourney games which are "played until there is a winner" are marked as whoever wins no matter how long it takes.
That's my understanding too more or less. Pretty sure it's more format than time. Long beanpot ot doesn't mean a pwr tie I don't think. Since there are no gimmicks.
Our win coupled with Mankato's loss was a huge gain for us as playoffstatus.com now shows 99% chance of a #1 seed (up from 82). Also shows an 8% chance (up from 2) of dethroning St Cloud as the #1 overall.
Quote from: KenPOur win coupled with Mankato's loss was a huge gain for us as playoffstatus.com now shows 99% chance of a #1 seed (up from 82). Also shows an 8% chance (up from 2) of dethroning St Cloud as the #1 overall.
Discuss Argue.
Quote from: martyQuote from: KenPOur win coupled with Mankato's loss was a huge gain for us as playoffstatus.com now shows 99% chance of a #1 seed (up from 82). Also shows an 8% chance (up from 2) of dethroning St Cloud as the #1 overall.
Discuss Argue.
I am more curious about what permutations create what at this point...
1. What needs to happen to get a number one overall seed?
2. What results today will eliminate any chance of an#2 seed?
Regarding the nightmare first-round ND road game pairing: Cornell is the only Eastern team with a shot at a 1-seed, and there is only one NCHC team with a realistic shot at a one-seed. So it would seem as though, if Cornell does get a 1-seed, we should be pretty safe?
If the NCAA really wanted to shake things up, they would place all of the teams into each of the regions 2-4, and then let the #1 seeds choose where they want to go.
Quote from: BearLoverRegarding the nightmare first-round ND road game pairing: Cornell is the only Eastern team with a shot at a 1-seed, and there is only one NCHC team with a realistic shot at a one-seed. So it would seem as though, if Cornell does get a 1-seed, we should be pretty safe?
I don't think we're out of the woodwork yet. If we finish 3rd or 4th with Denver (the one NCHC team you mention) as the 4th or 3rd team, and NoDak makes it (and doesn't move up enough to get a 3 seed), we may very well get sent west.
I'm torn, because I want the best possible draw/location and am pulling for us to stay east, but if we're in Sioux Falls, I get to go.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: BearLoverRegarding the nightmare first-round ND road game pairing: Cornell is the only Eastern team with a shot at a 1-seed, and there is only one NCHC team with a realistic shot at a one-seed. So it would seem as though, if Cornell does get a 1-seed, we should be pretty safe?
I don't think we're out of the woodwork yet. If we finish 3rd or 4th with Denver (the one NCHC team you mention) as the 4th or 3rd team, and NoDak makes it (and doesn't move up enough to get a 3 seed), we may very well get sent west.
I'm torn, because I want the best possible draw/location and am pulling for us to stay east, but if we're in Sioux Falls, I get to go.
I meant SCSU as the one NCHC team; I think Denver is pretty unlikely at this point.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: BearLoverRegarding the nightmare first-round ND road game pairing: Cornell is the only Eastern team with a shot at a 1-seed, and there is only one NCHC team with a realistic shot at a one-seed. So it would seem as though, if Cornell does get a 1-seed, we should be pretty safe?
I don't think we're out of the woodwork yet. If we finish 3rd or 4th with Denver (the one NCHC team you mention) as the 4th or 3rd team, and NoDak makes it (and doesn't move up enough to get a 3 seed), we may very well get sent west.
I'm torn, because I want the best possible draw/location and am pulling for us to stay east, but if we're in Sioux Falls, I get to go.
I'd assume St. Cloud is an NCHC team with a lock on a #1 seed.
Quote from: RichHAs of 11:06 pm, CHN PWR page has Notre Dame & Cornell's RPI tied to four decimal places, both at 0.5821.
At the end of the Denver win, Notre Dame is now ahead 0.5822 to 0.5821 since ND and Denver played h2h.
And now, as of 7:53 PM Sunday evening, with the only final so far today being Harvard over Dartmouth, (both teams that we're 2-0 against this year) Notre Dame is now at .5833 while we are still at .5821.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: BearLoverRegarding the nightmare first-round ND road game pairing: Cornell is the only Eastern team with a shot at a 1-seed, and there is only one NCHC team with a realistic shot at a one-seed. So it would seem as though, if Cornell does get a 1-seed, we should be pretty safe?
I don't think we're out of the woodwork yet. If we finish 3rd or 4th with Denver (the one NCHC team you mention) as the 4th or 3rd team, and NoDak makes it (and doesn't move up enough to get a 3 seed), we may very well get sent west.
I'm torn, because I want the best possible draw/location and am pulling for us to stay east, but if we're in Sioux Falls, I get to go.
I'd assume St. Cloud is an NCHC team with a lock on a #1 seed.
Completely forgot they were NCHC, my mistake. Honestly, half the time I still think we're on the old WCHA/CCHA system.
But generally, I'd say we get sent west if NoDak makes it as a 4 and we either finish in 4th or in 3rd with Denver in 4th. If we fall below 4th it changes, but we probably wind up east.
Clarkson now up 5-1 after 2.
Miami up 2-0 on St. Cloud
Denver up 2-0 on CC
Minnesota State tied with MTU
If Mankato loses (and they're tied 1-1 right now), it actually gives more flexibility.
St. Cloud losing (and they're down 3-1 right now), means NoDak has a better chance of moving up.
And the Clarkson game is a final, 5-1.
Denver crushing CC - now 5-0.
St. C. gets one back against Miami - now 3-2 in the 3rd.
Mankato still tied with Tech - 1-1 in the 3rd.
Denver 6 - CC 1 Final
St. Cloud / Miami and Mankato / MTU both going to OT.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud / Miami
Since we played Miami 2x, why would a Miami win not be good for us?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82St. Cloud / Miami
Since we played Miami 2x, why would a Miami win not be good for us?
It would, but it didn't happen. St. C wins in OT. 4-3.
But Michigan Tech upsets Mankato. One less bubble team slot open. The WCHA autobid now is the 15 seed.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But Michigan Tech upsets Mankato. One less bubble team slot open. The WCHA autobid now is the 15 seed.
A BU or BC win in hockey east might make the 14 seed an autobid* and North Dakota probably needs to win the conference. Of course the same is true of Princeton/Harvard winning the ECAC but on March 11 I'd rather win the conference and risk a trip west than root for "lowering North Dakota's chances to get in the tournament."
* possibly would vault BC over NoDak but pushing NoDak to 15 is the same result
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82But Michigan Tech upsets Mankato. One less bubble team slot open. The WCHA autobid now is the 15 seed.
A BU or BC win in hockey east might make the 14 seed an autobid* and North Dakota probably needs to win the conference. Of course the same is true of Princeton/Harvard winning the ECAC but on March 11 I'd rather win the conference and risk a trip west than root for "lowering North Dakota's chances to get in the tournament."
* possibly would vault BC over NoDak but pushing NoDak to 15 is the same result
Here's a twist...right now Minnesota is 13. if Notre Dame and Ohio State both finish in the top four, they can't play Minnesota. St. Cloud can't play North Dakota. It means either we or St. Cloud HAVE to play Minnesota. Likely that will be us, especially if they preserve the #1 versus #16. The lower seed of Notre Dame and tOSU get to go to Sioux Falls to play N. Dakota.
Now, if Denver creeps into the top 4, neither they nor St. Cloud can play NoDak. So either we or Notre Dame get shipped to Sioux Falls.
So my rooting interests are BC, BU, and Ohio State, and anybody but North Dakota.
Wouldn't ND get sent west instead of us, since they are already pretty far west and we are very east? (Assuming ND doesn't get the first-overall seed.)
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Here's a twist...right now Minnesota is 13. if Notre Dame and Ohio State both finish in the top four, they can't play Minnesota. St. Cloud can't play North Dakota. It means either we or St. Cloud HAVE to play Minnesota. Likely that will be us, especially if they preserve the #1 versus #16. The lower seed of Notre Dame and tOSU get to go to Sioux Falls to play N. Dakota.
This is actually looking pretty likely at this point, and it's a major kick in the keister. Similar thing happened in 2003. Cornell would not be afforded the luxury of playing the WCHA autobid team, and would instead play Minnesota - you are right. Then again, maybe that's not so terrible.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Here's a twist...right now Minnesota is 13. if Notre Dame and Ohio State both finish in the top four, they can't play Minnesota. St. Cloud can't play North Dakota. It means either we or St. Cloud HAVE to play Minnesota. Likely that will be us, especially if they preserve the #1 versus #16. The lower seed of Notre Dame and tOSU get to go to Sioux Falls to play N. Dakota.
This is actually looking pretty likely at this point, and it's a major kick in the keister. Similar thing happened in 2003. Cornell would not be afforded the luxury of playing the WCHA autobid team, and would instead play Minnesota - you are right. Then again, maybe that's not so terrible.
I put it in another thread, but if Duluth loses out (both semi and consy) they drop to 13 and Minnesota moves up to 12. Then we can get one of the autobids if we finish second or maybe even 3rd, depending on how many upsets there are.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardQuote from: Jim HylaVery sad, but we can help. Rensselaer assistant coach Graham struck by car, in ICU at Albany Medical Hospital (http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/10/rensselaer-assistant-coach-graham-struck-by-car-in-icu-at-albany-medical-hospital/) and RPI Assistant Coach Struck By Vehicle, In Intensive Care (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/10_RPI-Assistant-Coach-Struck.php).
Here's the GoFundMe page. (https://www.gofundme.com/nolan-graham-support) Looks like the community has already been generous. Hope and suspect that a goodly amount was from the hockey community. Give as generously as you can.
Guy fractures his skull, needs money for therapy to recover. Be nice if RPI medical for professors and staff covered that.
One would hope/expect that RPI's medical coverage would include such things. (Even Obamacare, if we still have it.) Maybe the GoFundMe is to support his family if RPI stops paying him while he's out of commission.
And wouldn't the insurance carried by the driver of the vehicle who hit him supposedly be responsible for all these costs? I'm not saying it's not wonderful when a community pulls together, and I really hope he's going to be okay, it's just a little weird.
Like when we're asked to send razors, foodstuffs, sox to our servicemen in Iraq. Isn't that the job of our government? I can see sending Episcopal crosses and inflatable life-size dolls, but not sox or foot powder.
Quote from: billhowardLike when we're asked to send razors, foodstuffs, sox to our servicemen in Iraq. Isn't that the job of our government? I can see sending Episcopal crosses and inflatable life-size dolls, but not sox or foot powder.
Personally, I would love to move the American League teams from Chicago and Boston that far away. Good riddance.
+1
Quote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardLike when we're asked to send razors, foodstuffs, sox to our servicemen in Iraq. Isn't that the job of our government? I can see sending Episcopal crosses and inflatable life-size dolls, but not sox or foot powder.
Personally, I would love to move the American League teams from Chicago and Boston that far away. Good riddance.
You hate the White Sox?
How can anybody summon the energy to even opine on the White Sox? They are the most anodyne team in baseball not named the Padres.
The Red Sox obvs I agree. Fuck them with Roger Clemens' broken bat.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: billhowardLike when we're asked to send razors, foodstuffs, sox to our servicemen in Iraq. Isn't that the job of our government? I can see sending Episcopal crosses and inflatable life-size dolls, but not sox or foot powder.
Personally, I would love to move the American League teams from Chicago and Boston that far away. Good riddance.
You hate the White Sox?
How can anybody summon the energy to even opine on the White Sox? They are the most anodyne team in baseball not named the Padres.
Two words: Hawk Harrelson. His voice scrapes my retinas, and I want him to be tortured in hell for as long as he has tortured the airwaves.
But really, I don't dislike the White Sox. I call out the White Sox as yet another dig to Red Sox fans who insist on calling them "The Sox." I do so to remind them that there's a team that had the name "Sox" first, AND they went through a longer WS drought, AND their fans weren't 1/10000th as annoying about it. When *they* ended the 88-year stretch, their reaction wasn't "LOOOK AT US!!!" it was "Leave us alone and let us enjoy this." The White Sox = The Right Sox.
Quote from: RichHBut really, I don't dislike the White Sox. I call out the White Sox as yet another dig to Red Sox fans who insist on calling them "The Sox." I do so to remind them that there's a team that had the name "Sox" first, AND they went through a longer WS drought, AND their fans weren't 1/10000th as annoying about it. When *they* ended the 88-year stretch, their reaction wasn't "LOOOK AT US!!!" it was "Leave us alone and let us enjoy this." The White Sox = The Right Sox.
What do you expect? Boston is the City of Losers. When they win it's just that much more apparent they, personally, are losers.
Save the Cornell fans and the other buildings; sink the Pru and the other people in the Harbor.
Interesting observation on the other semi: Harvard hasn't lost an ECAC semi game since 2001 and Clarkson hasn't since 2002. Granted, Harvard's run is a little more impressive as they've been in 10 since then, and Clarkson only 2.
...and now we root for Harvard (ugh) to win today, or if Clarkson wins, Princeton tomorrow, to get NoDak off the bubble and onto the golf course.
I'm still not rooting for Harvard.
For those who saw Clarkson's GWG, have we seen a Cornell goal like that all year? We almost never score on those tic-tac-toe passing plays in transition, and we convert on an extremely low percentage of odd-man rushes. As great as Cornell's season has been, they don't have the offensive firepower of any of the other three teams at Lake Placid. Cornell is still a few more Donaldsons away from that...
Quote from: BearLoverFor those who saw Clarkson's GWG, have we seen a Cornell goal like that all year? We almost never score on those tic-tac-toe passing plays in transition, and we convert on an extremely low percentage of odd-man rushes. As great as Cornell's season has been, they don't have the offensive firepower of any of the other three teams at Lake Placid. Cornell is still a few more Donaldsons away from that...
A fair point, although we did have a number of very nice goals in the rout against Q. But a good percentage of our goals have been by driving the net, getting wrap-around chances, rebounds, and the like. Tonight we had a hard time stringing together passes and when we had some clean looks from the slot we couldn't convert.
Certainly disappointing making the trip to LP and having the rug pulled out from under us. But hey that's sports.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: BearLoverFor those who saw Clarkson's GWG, have we seen a Cornell goal like that all year? We almost never score on those tic-tac-toe passing plays in transition, and we convert on an extremely low percentage of odd-man rushes. As great as Cornell's season has been, they don't have the offensive firepower of any of the other three teams at Lake Placid. Cornell is still a few more Donaldsons away from that...
A fair point, although we did have a number of very nice goals in the rout against Q. But a good percentage of our goals have been by driving the net, getting wrap-around chances, rebounds, and the like. Tonight we had a hard time stringing together passes and when we had some clean looks from the slot we couldn't convert.
Certainly disappointing making the trip to LP and having the rug pulled out from under us. But hey that's sports.
Cornell can find guys in the slot and score on wraparounds and rebounds and that will win them enough games when their defense is as good as it's been this year. But they are still flat out bad at scoring in transition. Maybe that's something that will change with next year's freshman class. This year's seniors are good at many things, but scoring in transition isn't one of them. The number of times this year I've seen Cornell with numbers in transition not even get a shot off has to be at least four times greater than the number of goals they've scored in such a spot.
Quote from: BearLoverFor those who saw Clarkson's GWG, have we seen a Cornell goal like that all year? We almost never score on those tic-tac-toe passing plays in transition, and we convert on an extremely low percentage of odd-man rushes. As great as Cornell's season has been, they don't have the offensive firepower of any of the other three teams at Lake Placid. Cornell is still a few more Donaldsons away from that...
I can't tell you which game it was, but I watched a pretty limited number of games this season via livestream, and I absolutely saw one such Cornell goal. It stood out to me exactly because it has not been a typical way for Cornell to score in the last several years.
I'm not about to start watching footage, but I'm sure it's in the highlights on YouTube if you want to look for it.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: BearLoverFor those who saw Clarkson's GWG, have we seen a Cornell goal like that all year? We almost never score on those tic-tac-toe passing plays in transition, and we convert on an extremely low percentage of odd-man rushes. As great as Cornell's season has been, they don't have the offensive firepower of any of the other three teams at Lake Placid. Cornell is still a few more Donaldsons away from that...
I can't tell you which game it was, but I watched a pretty limited number of games this season via livestream, and I absolutely saw one such Cornell goal. It stood out to me exactly because it has not been a typical way for Cornell to score in the last several years.
That sort of proves my point, though. I considered adding the disclaimer "I'm sure someone could dredge one up, but..."
Also, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Quote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Who else is whistling right now?
Quote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Which includes former Cornell assistant Brent Brekke.
Didn't Brekke, one of the Miami assistant coaches, used to be at Cornell?
Quote from: margolismDidn't Brekke, one of the Miami assistant coaches, used to be at Cornell?
Yes. That's why we commented. And then there's the whistle.
BU leading PC 1-0, 18 min. left in the 3rd. We like this. Screw BU later.
Quote from: BeeeejBU leading PC 1-0, 18 min. left in the 3rd. We like this. Screw BU later.
By "later," do you mean "next week"?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: BeeeejBU leading PC 1-0, 18 min. left in the 3rd. We like this. Screw BU later.
By "later," do you mean "next week"?
That is exactly what I mean.
Well, if Princeton wins, it may not be next week. We might get Michigan Tech instead.
11 of 15 games this weekend were won by the lower seed team. Wow.
Quote from: KenP11 of 15 games this weekend were won by the lower seed team. Wow.
I don't think the NCAA's are going to be any easier. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Princeton wins a game or two.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: KenP11 of 15 games this weekend were won by the lower seed team. Wow.
I don't think the NCAA's are going to be any easier. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Princeton wins a game or two.
Five words: University of Maryland, Baltimore County (a.k.a. the University of Meatball with Cheese). Anything can happen.
can princeton keep winning games with almost no puck control though? i mean really they got 3 goals against us without really even having the puck and then one long breakout pass. its not like they played lock down D either game even though they held teams to low goal totals.
Quote from: upprdeckcan princeton keep winning games with almost no puck control though? i mean really they got 3 goals against us without really even having the puck and then one long breakout pass. its not like they played lock down D either game even though they held teams to low goal totals.
I don't think their game is lock down D. I don't think they're good enough for that. I think they block the lanes and jam up in front of the goal when necessary. They seemed to give us many opportunities to take slap shots from a distance but kept us under wraps up close. I also think we made things easier on them by (1) not getting slap shots off quicker and (2) having guys try to puck handle past 2 to 4 Princeton skaters.
i dont think cornell gets more that 2-300 tickets for this.. Allentown will be tough to get too. does cornell even have a pt system?
Based on trends, won't be until 2028 that Princeton wins another ECAC title.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyQuote from: KenP11 of 15 games this weekend were won by the lower seed team. Wow.
I don't think the NCAA's are going to be any easier. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Princeton wins a game or two.
Five words: University of Maryland, Baltimore County (a.k.a. the University of Meatball with Cheese). Anything can happen.
I know we played them in lacrosse in recent years. Huh?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyQuote from: KenP11 of 15 games this weekend were won by the lower seed team. Wow.
I don't think the NCAA's are going to be any easier. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Princeton wins a game or two.
Five words: University of Maryland, Baltimore County (a.k.a. the University of Meatball with Cheese). Anything can happen.
I know we played them in lacrosse in recent years. Huh?
They just upset UVa in the NCAA Basketball tourney -A 16 seed beating a 1 seed.
CHN just tweeted that Donato's signed a 2-year contract with the Bruins.
Quote from: scoop85CHN just tweeted that Donato's signed a 2-year contract with the Bruins.
They gave him an A?
article on donato signing
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2018/03/18/ryan-donato-signs-with-bruins/YDYgBeKLDzgZtfW2XyzmDN/story.html?p1=Team_LeadArticleundefined
Quote from: scoop85CHN just tweeted that Donato's signed a 2-year contract with the Bruins.
Given that Riley Nash is already on the team, this probably lowers the team's average IQ. ::popcorn::
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: scoop85CHN just tweeted that Donato's signed a 2-year contract with the Bruins.
Given that Riley Nash is already on the team, this probably lowers the team's average IQ. ::popcorn::
welp here come another 5000 posts about statistical analysis
Donato scores in NHL debut for Bruins http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/03/19/ryan-donato-scores-in-nhl-debut-for-bruins-video/
Quote from: jeff '84Donato scores in NHL debut for Bruins http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/03/19/ryan-donato-scores-in-nhl-debut-for-bruins-video/
That was a sweet goal. Plus he managed to avoid having to wear #41 or 95 or some weird number- they gave him 17
Quote from: abmarksPlus he managed to avoid having to wear #41 or 95 or some weird number- they gave him 17
That is important. Players should not wear numbers outside of {2 ... 29}. Retired numbers should expire after, say, 25 years.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: abmarksPlus he managed to avoid having to wear #41 or 95 or some weird number- they gave him 17
That is important. Players should not wear numbers outside of {2 ... 29}. Retired numbers should expire after, say, 25 years.
While I file the permits for the parade I'm having in your honor for this, I'd like to hear the rest of your manifesto.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: abmarksPlus he managed to avoid having to wear #41 or 95 or some weird number- they gave him 17
That is important. Players should not wear numbers outside of {2 ... 29}. Retired numbers should expire after, say, 25 years.
While I file the permits for the parade I'm having in your honor for this, I'd like to hear the rest of your manifesto.
The rest is incoherent rambling about Kathryn 2.0.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: abmarksPlus he managed to avoid having to wear #41 or 95 or some weird number- they gave him 17
That is important. Players should not wear numbers outside of {2 ... 29}. Retired numbers should expire after, say, 25 years.
While I file the permits for the parade I'm having in your honor for this, I'd like to hear the rest of your manifesto.
I'll allow Jagr to wear #68, since it's for a wonderful reason. Beyond that, I agree with you.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I'll allow Jagr to wear #68, since it's for a wonderful reason.
Absolutely. Rusko do prdele (http://100photos.time.com/photos/josef-koudelka-invasion-prague#photograph).
(http://blog.ricecracker.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/PAR65493.jpg)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I'll allow Jagr to wear #68, since it's for a wonderful reason.
Absolutely. Rusko do prdele (http://100photos.time.com/photos/josef-koudelka-invasion-prague#photograph).
Completely agree.
Generally I let the pros be pros, but in the case of colleges, every time some college kid wears #77, he's saying the back of the jersey is more important than the name on the front.
Donato is looking like he really might be something special. He has the lone goal so far in the 3rd period of Bruins v. Blues tonight on NBC Sports. This after a goal and 2 assists in his first game. They just showed a stat that Ryan is the first Bruin with 4 points in their first two games since 1980.
ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Quote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
https://nypost.com/2018/03/22/a-quickly-growing-bruins-star-is-still-taking-harvard-classes/?utm_campaign=applenews&utm_medium=inline&utm_source=applenews
Quote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Well, now, you have to sympathize with the guy. If he stopped going to classes, he might wind up with an A-minus or something.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
That they let in 4 to Princeton?
::bolt::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
That they let in 4 to Princeton?
::bolt::
(1) Unlucky Bounce + Fluke (2) Breakaway (3) Defense Breakdown (4) ENG
One goal was on the D. the breakway we had tremendous pressure and were taking pot shots and the puck just deflected into the perfect spot for a breakaway. the bounce was a bad bounce off the boards, a lucky kick off the Attacker skate, then 2 deflections off the Cornell D for an own goal.. Even the empty netter we controlled the puck for almost the 4 min we pulled the goalie and had tons of chances.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
That they let in 4 to Princeton?
::bolt::
(1) Unlucky Bounce + Fluke (2) Breakaway (3) Defense Breakdown (4) ENG
Didn't they score 4 in game 1 also?
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
That they let in 4 to Princeton?
::bolt::
(1) Unlucky Bounce + Fluke (2) Breakaway (3) Defense Breakdown (4) ENG
Didn't they score 4 in game 1 also?
And your point is?
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: KenPQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cth95ESPN's NHL Power Rankings states that Donato is still taking classes at Harvard while he is playing for the Bruins.
Says more about Harvard classes than Donato.
But nothing we didn't already know.
Says something about our D too!
:-)
That they let in 4 to Princeton?
::bolt::
(1) Unlucky Bounce + Fluke (2) Breakaway (3) Defense Breakdown (4) ENG
Didn't they score 4 in game 1 also?
Yes, but we scored 5.
Not related to any team nearby, but Don Lucia steps down as Minnesota coach. Minnesota hasn't been the same team since their Frozen Four appearance a few years ago.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/20/don-lucia-resigns-as-gophers-mens-hockey-coach-sources-say/
Quote from: upprdeckOne goal was on the D. the breakway we had tremendous pressure and were taking pot shots and the puck just deflected into the perfect spot for a breakaway. the bounce was a bad bounce off the boards, a lucky kick off the Attacker skate, then 2 deflections off the Cornell D for an own goal.. Even the empty netter we controlled the puck for almost the 4 min we pulled the goalie and had tons of chances.
I don't think the third goal was even a defensive breakdown. I remember McCrea giving Veronneau a bit too much space while skating back in transition but I wouldn't necessarily call it a "breakdown"
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckOne goal was on the D. the breakway we had tremendous pressure and were taking pot shots and the puck just deflected into the perfect spot for a breakaway. the bounce was a bad bounce off the boards, a lucky kick off the Attacker skate, then 2 deflections off the Cornell D for an own goal.. Even the empty netter we controlled the puck for almost the 4 min we pulled the goalie and had tons of chances.
I don't think the third goal was even a defensive breakdown. I remember McCrea giving Veronneau a bit too much space while skating back in transition but I wouldn't necessarily call it a "breakdown"
My original comment was responding to statement that our D was weak because they gave up 4 goals. He left his guy wide open. IMO blame goes to the defense for that one. The other three goals were not attributable to them.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckOne goal was on the D. the breakway we had tremendous pressure and were taking pot shots and the puck just deflected into the perfect spot for a breakaway. the bounce was a bad bounce off the boards, a lucky kick off the Attacker skate, then 2 deflections off the Cornell D for an own goal.. Even the empty netter we controlled the puck for almost the 4 min we pulled the goalie and had tons of chances.
I don't think the third goal was even a defensive breakdown. I remember McCrea giving Veronneau a bit too much space while skating back in transition but I wouldn't necessarily call it a "breakdown"
My original comment was responding to statement that our D was weak because they gave up 4 goals. He left his guy wide open. IMO blame goes to the defense for that one. The other three goals were not attributable to them.
They just showed a replay on TV and you're right. Wow, that was way more space than I remembered. The best non-Donato scorer in the league left wide open.
Lots of ECAC signings.
Brown: McArdle and Lafferty
Colgate: Panowyk
Harvard: Donato (early), Madsen, Sherman, and Horton
Princeton: Robinson and Halford
Quinnipiac: MacMaster, McKernan and the immortal Bo Pieper
RPI: Prapavessis, Wilson, and Liljergren
SLU: Lough
Union: Scarfo and Brassard
Yale: Hitchcock and Larkin
Quote from: TrotskyLots of ECAC signings.
Brown: McArdle and Lafferty
Colgate: Panowyk
Harvard: Donato (early), Madsen, Sherman, and Horton
Princeton: Robinson and Halford
Quinnipiac: MacMaster, McKernan and the immortal Bo Pieper
RPI: Prapavessis, Wilson, and Liljergren
SLU: Lough
Union: Scarfo and Brassard
Yale: Hitchcock and Larkin
What does bold font indicate?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyLots of ECAC signings.
Brown: McArdle and Lafferty
Colgate: Panowyk
Harvard: Donato (early), Madsen, Sherman, and Horton
Princeton: Robinson and Halford
Quinnipiac: MacMaster, McKernan and the immortal Bo Pieper
RPI: Prapavessis, Wilson, and Liljergren
SLU: Lough
Union: Scarfo and Brassard
Yale: Hitchcock and Larkin
What does bold font indicate?
Guys I am really glad to see leave. Either Cornell killers or very, very talented players.
No one has left Cornell because it is a great school.
Is this the thread where Trotsky wants to know which players are leaving early for his standings predictions? RPI has seven such players, three who are going to greener pastures and four who have been cut. Nothing is official yet but there has been a lot of discussion on USCHO. Eight if you count a goalie who played less than three minutes and will stay in school.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyLots of ECAC signings.
Brown: McArdle and Lafferty
Colgate: Panowyk
Harvard: Donato (early), Madsen, Sherman, and Horton
Princeton: Robinson and Halford
Quinnipiac: MacMaster, McKernan and the immortal Bo Pieper
RPI: Prapavessis, Wilson, and Liljergren
SLU: Lough
Union: Scarfo and Brassard
Yale: Hitchcock and Larkin
What does bold font indicate?
Guys I am really glad to see leave. Either Cornell killers or very, very talented players.
So Donato is the only non-senior?
Quote from: Jim HylaSo Donato is the only non-senior?
So far, yes.
Quote from: ursusminorIs this the thread where Trotsky wants to know which players are leaving early for his standings predictions? RPI has seven such players, three who are going to greener pastures and four who have been cut. Nothing is official yet but there has been a lot of discussion on USCHO. Eight if you count a goalie who played less than three minutes and will stay in school.
Nope, that's Early Departures. We don't need a thread for signings because USCHO tracks it now (http://www.uscho.com/senior-signings-2018-offseason/), but we will need to track transfers and, inevitably, Harvard cheating suspensions.
Denver got destroyed.
Rempal signed with LA. He's leaving 2 years early.
http://www.uscho.com/2018/03/30/clarkson-loses-rempal-two-years-early-as-los-angeles-signs-free-agent/
A surprising departure (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/clarkson/20180504_Dickinson_Signs_Pro_Contract) for one of Clarkson's top freshmen.
And with Rempal's expected departure that was previously announced, Clarkson is losing some of its best firepower.
Quote from: scoop85A surprising departure (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/clarkson/20180504_Dickinson_Signs_Pro_Contract) for one of Clarkson's top freshmen.
And with Rempal's expected departure that was previously announced, Clarkson is losing some of its best firepower.
Wow! We're pretty much the pre-season #1 by default now.
Angello is gone.. so hope the new kids are good.
Bret Brekke is one of two finalists for the head coaching position at UAF:
http://www.newsminer.com/sports/uaf-names-finalists-for-next-hockey-coach/article_f3043102-3c86-11e8-9f7e-b379db716542.html
Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Brekke is reportedly the new coach at Alaska. Would a road trip be exempt from Ivy game limit?
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Brekke is reportedly the new coach at Alaska. Would a road trip be exempt from Ivy game limit?
I'd go, mos def. And not just because I have a friend up there (although that helps).
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Brekke is reportedly the new coach at Alaska. Would a road trip be exempt from Ivy game limit?
Time for a home and home series!
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: martyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, Miami has decided to fire its assistant coaches and also some of its players. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/16_Miami-Fires-Assistant-Coaches.php)
Brent Brekke!
Brekke is reportedly the new coach at Alaska. Would a road trip be exempt from Ivy game limit?
More recent reports are that he turned it down. CHN's story is still live at the original link, but is "unpublished" from the main site.
espn 104.5 in Albany is running a commercial for tomorrow's local show with Roger Wyland that they will speak with Rick Bennett about the prospect of him joining the NY Rangers. I will post what they have to say if I happen to listen to it but I probably won't be able to.
Quote from: jts15espn 104.5 in Albany is running a commercial for tomorrow's local show with Roger Wyland that they will speak with Rick Bennett about the prospect of him joining the NY Rangers. I will post what they have to say if I happen to listen to it but I probably won't be able to.
The second most despicable person in the western hemisphere? The Rangers wouldn't stoop
that low, would they?
Quote from: jts15espn 104.5 in Albany is running a commercial for tomorrow's local show with Roger Wyland that they will speak with Rick Bennett about the prospect of him joining the NY Rangers. I will post what they have to say if I happen to listen to it but I probably won't be able to.
You can listen to the stream here (http://1045theteam.com/).
Quote from: martyQuote from: jts15espn 104.5 in Albany is running a commercial for tomorrow's local show with Roger Wyland that they will speak with Rick Bennett about the prospect of him joining the NY Rangers. I will post what they have to say if I happen to listen to it but I probably won't be able to.
You can listen to the stream here (http://1045theteam.com/).
Bad news. The big jerk didn't even get a call from the Rangers per interview. We're stuck with his oafish blathering in the ECAC.
Quote from: martyQuote from: martyQuote from: jts15espn 104.5 in Albany is running a commercial for tomorrow's local show with Roger Wyland that they will speak with Rick Bennett about the prospect of him joining the NY Rangers. I will post what they have to say if I happen to listen to it but I probably won't be able to.
You can listen to the stream here (http://1045theteam.com/).
Bad news. The big jerk didn't even get a call from the Rangers per interview. We're stuck with his oafish blathering in the ECAC.
As long as Pecknold is with us Bennett is still not the worst.
Hockey East ADs Vote to Change Playoff Format (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/04/25_Hockey-East-ADs-Vote-to-Change.php)
"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Quote from: Jim HylaHockey East ADs Vote to Change Playoff Format (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/04/25_Hockey-East-ADs-Vote-to-Change.php)
"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaHockey East ADs Vote to Change Playoff Format (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/04/25_Hockey-East-ADs-Vote-to-Change.php)
"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaHockey East ADs Vote to Change Playoff Format (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/04/25_Hockey-East-ADs-Vote-to-Change.php)
"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops
two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
I wish we'd go back to 8. Hitherto I assumed it would never happen because C.R.E.A.M. but given this maybe it's possible.
There's been greater mobility in the conference which refutes the rationale for playoff expansion: that perennial second-division teams never get a chance to host the playoffs.
Top 4 finishes since 2006:
9 Cor
8 Uni
6 Hvd
6 Yal
5 Cgt
5 SLU
4 Qpc
3 Clk
3 Drt
2 Prn
1 RPI
0 Brn
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
You say it's strange to increase the importance of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standing, but it seems strange because you're looking at it in terms of the current format being the status quo ante. What was strange to me - downright absurd - was expanding the field to twelve teams in the first place, thus drastically decreasing the importance of the regular season for all twelve teams. Of course programs naturally still want to jockey for home ice and other advantages of finishing higher, but if they wanted, they could literally sit and spin on the ice and do nothing for 29-32 games and still make the conference playoffs. Even fifteen years later I think that's moronic. Reducing to 8 teams wouldn't decrease the importance of the regular season to the top four teams, it would simply change the palette of advantages gained by finishing near the top.
During the thirteen years of two different 10-team playoff formats, every time Cornell hosted the quarters (or "quints" ), even without the advantage of being a bye team hosting a non-bye team, they won. It's a small sample size, but 10 for 12 isn't much bigger.
Quote from: BeeeejHome ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four.
Certainly my right honourable friend will recall that we were without the services of Ryan Vesce, captain and second in points that season, for games two and three, and that he was "not 100%" in any way for game one.
Not an excuse, though.
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Certainly my right honourable friend will recall that we were without the services of Ryan Vesce, captain and second in points that season, for games two and three, and that he was "not 100%" in any way for game one.
Not an excuse, though.
I couldn't forget if I wanted to. But even that is a strong argument that a bye isn't everything it's cracked up to be - we couldn't get our captain healthy and keep him healthy with two weeks off.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
Yeah I guess I'm assuming home ice isn't a significant advantage. If that's true, then changing to an 8-team format shifts the big incentive from the top 4 to the bottom 4. With that said, the current reward for a top-4 finish of home ice + week off to rest your players + no chance of being upset in the fist round might just be
too good to the point of being unfair.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaHockey East ADs Vote to Change Playoff Format (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/04/25_Hockey-East-ADs-Vote-to-Change.php)
"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
Yeah I guess I'm assuming home ice isn't a significant advantage. If that's true, then changing to an 8-team format shifts the big incentive from the top 4 to the bottom 4. With that said, the current reward for a top-4 finish of home ice + week off to rest your players + no chance of being upset in the fist round might just be too good to the point of being unfair.
The critical point that goes right over your head is that teams that finish ninth through twelfth in a twelve-team league have no business being in a post-season tournament, just like teams that finish fifth through seventh don't play in the Ivy lacrosse tournament and teams that finish fifth through eighth don't play in the Ivy basketball tournament.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
Yeah I guess I'm assuming home ice isn't a significant advantage. If that's true, then changing to an 8-team format shifts the big incentive from the top 4 to the bottom 4. With that said, the current reward for a top-4 finish of home ice + week off to rest your players + no chance of being upset in the fist round might just be too good to the point of being unfair.
The critical point that goes right over your head is that teams that finish ninth through twelfth in a twelve-team league have no business being in a post-season tournament, just like teams that finish fifth through seventh don't play in the Ivy lacrosse tournament and teams that finish fifth through eighth don't play in the Ivy basketball tournament.
I know it's en vogue to trash me on here, but there are other "critical points" to consider, such as rewarding teams for having great regular seasons.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
Yeah I guess I'm assuming home ice isn't a significant advantage. If that's true, then changing to an 8-team format shifts the big incentive from the top 4 to the bottom 4. With that said, the current reward for a top-4 finish of home ice + week off to rest your players + no chance of being upset in the fist round might just be too good to the point of being unfair.
The critical point that goes right over your head is that teams that finish ninth through twelfth in a twelve-team league have no business being in a post-season tournament, just like teams that finish fifth through seventh don't play in the Ivy lacrosse tournament and teams that finish fifth through eighth don't play in the Ivy basketball tournament.
I know it's en vogue to trash me on here, but there are other "critical points" to consider, such as rewarding teams for having great regular seasons.
They would be rewarded by playing the fifth through eighth seeds, likely the teams they would have been playing in the current format anyway. Letting teams with three or four wins in 22 regular-season games play for the league's tournament championship is ridiculous.
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"The league's athletic directors, meeting at the annual Coaches' Convention in Naples, Fla., voted this week to eliminate the first round of the Hockey East playoffs, meaning that the top eight teams in the regular-season standings will qualify for the tournament and the bottom three teams will be eliminated."
Smart move. Maybe the ECAC will take note.
Why smart? Shouldn't we have some sort of real reward for the top four finishers (a bye)? Under this proposed new system, the only reward is an easier pairing.
Why, just because that's how it's been since the ECAC tourney went from 10 teams to 12 in 2003? Home ice and an easier pairing is already pretty fantastic, and even the bye isn't a guarantee of anything - witness 2004, #2 Cornell gets a bye then promptly donkeys off a best-of-three against #9 Clarkson just a year after making the Frozen Four. And while it's not as shocking an upset, in 2007 #4 Cornell also gets a bye then drops two straight at home to #5 Quinnipiac.
Not because it's how things have been, but because it rewards teams who finish highly in the conference. It's strange to eliminate four teams from the playoffs, thereby increasing the important of the regular season for those at the bottom of the standings, while decreasing the importance for those at the top. Selfishly, this would also hurt Cornell.
Re: byes not being a guarantee of anything, that's true (as it should be), but those two instances you cited are the only two from the 12 times Cornell has earned a bye in the current playoff format that it did not win the quarterfinals.
I find this whole argument a bit odd, because and eight-team format would still have a reward for finishing in the top four: home ice in the quarterfinals.
Actually, it's been pointed out that the "old" (non-final-five) 10-team format had a benefit for each pair of spots in the standings: finishing 10th got you in the playoffs, finishing 8th got you home ice in the Tuesday night preliminary game, finishing 6th let you avoid the prelim and go straight to the quarterfinals, finishing 4th got you home ice in the quarters, and finishing 2nd got you a quarterfinal series against a team that had played an extra game Tuesday night. As it turns out, that last advantage came with the disadvantage that the top two finishers didn't know which opponent to prepare for until Wednesday, so the coaches apparently didn't like the format.
Yeah I guess I'm assuming home ice isn't a significant advantage. If that's true, then changing to an 8-team format shifts the big incentive from the top 4 to the bottom 4. With that said, the current reward for a top-4 finish of home ice + week off to rest your players + no chance of being upset in the fist round might just be too good to the point of being unfair.
The critical point that goes right over your head is that teams that finish ninth through twelfth in a twelve-team league have no business being in a post-season tournament, just like teams that finish fifth through seventh don't play in the Ivy lacrosse tournament and teams that finish fifth through eighth don't play in the Ivy basketball tournament.
I know it's en vogue to trash me on here, but there are other "critical points" to consider, such as rewarding teams for having great regular seasons.
They would be rewarded by playing the fifth through eighth seeds, likely the teams they would have been playing in the current format anyway. Letting teams with three or four wins in 22 regular-season games play for the league's tournament championship is ridiculous.
I know this is an internet message board, but let's try to ease up on asserting long-held opinions as absolute incontrovertible truth here. Beyond finances and scheduling logistics there isn't really any hard and fast reason for a playoff field to cut off at any particular number of teams, and of course finances and scheduling logistics have basically nothing to do with determining which team is better (except in so far as they act as barriers to doing so - for example, we can't make every playoff series best of 15).
You're free to think a 12 team playoff in a 12 team league is absurd - and FWIW I also find it silly - but it really doesn't matter. The league could go to 10 of 12 and have a 4 team best 2-of-3 play-in (like today, but with the RS taking out the bottom two). Or it could just go to top 4 plays in Placid with no on-campus series. Or it could go to the old-school Ivy League Lax model and just make the RS the only thing that matters (assuming the NCAA would still allow that auto-bid). All of these are just as valid as the current tournament format, and all of them have their good points and their bad points from the perspective of league accolades, league representation in the NCAA tournament, and finding the best team.
If you ask me, and of course nobody did, I think keeping the current scheduling format but shortening it to 10 teams would be just fine. It generates more gate revenue for most teams, it has the "every 2 spot" reward structure JTW pointed out upthread, and it eliminates the "next opponent" uncertainty for the QF bye teams. It gives the kind of RS rewards BearLover is prioritizing while allowing the "playoffs should be restricted" purists to feel a little better about things.
It was 8 when we were a 17-team league (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982%E2%80%9383_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_ice_hockey_season). By that ratio it would be 6. Three on-campus best-of-threes. Three winners advance to Placid, the bottom two play the first night, the winner plays the RS champs the next night. Now every slot starts to be really, really important.
ESPNU crawler says Quinn leaving BU for Rangers.
Oliver Wahlstrom, who was a Harvard commit and is almost certain to go in the top-10 in this year's NHL draft, has flipped to BC. Harvard still has an excellent class coming in, but losing Wahlstrom takes a bit of the luster off that class.
Quote from: scoop85Oliver Wahlstrom, who was a Harvard commit and is almost certain to go in the top-10 in this year's NHL draft, has flipped to BC. Harvard still has an excellent class coming in, but losing Wahlstrom takes a bit of the luster off that class.
Good news for his future wife that Oliver will not be playing hockey at Harvard.
Quote from: French RageQuote from: scoop85Oliver Wahlstrom, who was a Harvard commit and is almost certain to go in the top-10 in this year's NHL draft, has flipped to BC. Harvard still has an excellent class coming in, but losing Wahlstrom takes a bit of the luster off that class.
Good news for his future wife that Oliver will not be playing hockey at Harvard.
Preppy!
Quote from: scoop85Oliver Wahlstrom, who was a Harvard commit and is almost certain to go in the top-10 in this year's NHL draft, has flipped to BC. Harvard still has an excellent class coming in, but losing Wahlstrom takes a bit of the luster off that class.
In a Boston Globe article today, Wahlstrom says it came down to Michigan or BC. He apparently lived for awhile in Boston and said he feels he's a Boston kid.
Boston not being Cambridge. Even if Bright-Landry Center is in Boston proper.
Quote from: billhowardBoston not being Cambridge. Even if Bright-Landry Center is in Boston proper.
Bright-Landry Center is in the Independently Consolidated Shithole of Allston.
Our government making us safe and helping our economy again:
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The shit-show that seems to have no end in sight.
+1 Jim & scoop. Sad
This isn't NCAA related, but I just saw a guy in the audience (not far from the Capitals net ) wearing a Cornell shirt/jersey during the Cup celebrations. Which one of you was it? ::nut::
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The shit-show that seems to have no end in sight.
If you're registered to vote, there is an end in sight .
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Jim HylaOur government making us safe and helping our economy again:
Phil Roy Leaves Clarkson After Work Visa Denied by U.S. Government (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/04_Phil-Roy-Leaves-Clarkson.php)
The shit-show that seems to have no end in sight.
If you're registered to vote, there is an end in sight .
Because certainly nothing could go wrong with that, right?
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Jim HylaOur government making us safe and helping our economy again:
Phil Roy Leaves Clarkson After Work Visa Denied by U.S. Government (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/04_Phil-Roy-Leaves-Clarkson.php)
The shit-show that seems to have no end in sight.
If you're registered to vote, there is an end in sight .
Because certainly nothing could go wrong with that, right?
Da.
Shit show fer sher.......+10
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: scoop85Quote from: Jim HylaOur government making us safe and helping our economy again:
Phil Roy Leaves Clarkson After Work Visa Denied by U.S. Government (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/04_Phil-Roy-Leaves-Clarkson.php)
The shit-show that seems to have no end in sight.
If you're registered to vote, there is an end in sight .
Because certainly nothing could go wrong with that, right?
No, but the biggest wrong is not enough people voting. So do it and convince everyone else to do the same.
Please, please, please #nopolitics.
This is the ONE place to escape it right now.
Quote from: TrotskyPlease, please, please #nopolitics.
This is the ONE place to escape it right now.
+1
Paul Pearl leaves Harvard. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/29_Pearl-Leaves-Harvard-to-Join.php)
I've always wondered why Pearl, after his very successful stint at his alma mater, left for Harvard. I've never found a satisfactory answer, nor does it seem Adam (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/14_paul_pearl_leaving_holy_cross.php) has (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/04/03_Harvards-Pearl-of-Wisdom.php). Who knows? Perhaps things were just stagnating.
Given Harvard's recent recruiting successes, surely more-than-partially attributable to Pearl, I'm more-than-pleased to have him gone from Harvard and out of the league.
We'll get to root against Pecknold for five more years! (https://www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/Quinnipiac-hockey-coach-Rand-Pecknold-signs-13038322.php?utm_campaign=twitter-tablet&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social)
Facilities improvements for the North Country.
Appleton (https://www.uscho.com/2018/06/28/new-financial-donations-to-give-st-lawrences-appleton-arena-needed-renovations/)
Cheel (https://www.uscho.com/2018/06/29/clarksons-cheel-arena-undergoing-expansion-renovation-with-groundbreaking-set-for-july-14/)
Quote from: Jim HylaFacilities improvements for the North Country.
Appleton (https://www.uscho.com/2018/06/28/new-financial-donations-to-give-st-lawrences-appleton-arena-needed-renovations/)
Cheel (https://www.uscho.com/2018/06/29/clarksons-cheel-arena-undergoing-expansion-renovation-with-groundbreaking-set-for-july-14/)
As long as they don't touch the aesthetics of Appleton.
The only renovation Cheel needs is obliteration by meteor.
Colton Point left toothpaste so that should those games a bit easier next year. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-stars/stars/2018/07/01/stars-goalie-prospect-leaves-college-pros
Quote from: cozColton Point left toothpaste so that should those games a bit easier next year. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-stars/stars/2018/07/01/stars-goalie-prospect-leaves-college-pros
Importantly who will be their goalie? Their other 2 from last year were seniors and I couldn't quickly find a new recruit list for them.
CHN's recruit list for 2019 doesn't list a goalie. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/recruits/list/ECAC/4/conf)
Unless one of the seniors was getting a fifth year, I have to assume they have at least 1 goalie coming in. Who?
This seems like a coaches worst nightmare. You lose your team's most important player at a time when finding a replacement is very hard.
Anyone have any knowledge about this?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: cozColton Point left toothpaste so that should those games a bit easier next year. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-stars/stars/2018/07/01/stars-goalie-prospect-leaves-college-pros
Importantly who will be their goalie? Their other 2 from last year were seniors and I couldn't quickly find a new recruit list for them.
CHN's recruit list for 2019 doesn't list a goalie. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/recruits/list/ECAC/4/conf)
Unless one of the seniors was getting a fifth year, I have to assume they have at least 1 goalie coming in. Who?
This seems like a coaches worst nightmare. You lose your team's most important player at a time when finding a replacement is very hard.
Anyone have any knowledge about this?
Colgate fans certainly don't seem to:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120378-Colgate-2017-18&p=6680862&viewfull=1#post6680862 :
QuoteThis means we lost THREE goalies from last season's roster and will have a HUGE question mark there going forward.
Then again, this sort of thing happens occasionally - maybe not all three goalies, but I recall at least one occasion (perhaps when Pelletier left?) when Cornell had to scramble after the usual recruiting season to put a credible backup goalie on the bench quickly, and it didn't turn out all that badly.
Quote from: BeeeejThen again, this sort of thing happens occasionally - maybe not all three goalies, but I recall at least one occasion (perhaps when Pelletier left?) when Cornell had to scramble after the usual recruiting season to put a credible backup goalie on the bench quickly, and it didn't turn out all that badly.
The Bad Time was 1993. Parris Duffus left early after 1992. That left us with an untried sophomore Bandurski and a freshman Skazyk. The results were... well, they weren't good:
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/rptCornell_Goaltending_by_Year/rptCornell_Goaltending_1993.pdf
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejThen again, this sort of thing happens occasionally - maybe not all three goalies, but I recall at least one occasion (perhaps when Pelletier left?) when Cornell had to scramble after the usual recruiting season to put a credible backup goalie on the bench quickly, and it didn't turn out all that badly.
The Bad Time was 1993. Parris Duffus left early after 1992. That left us with an untried sophomore Bandurski and a freshman Skazyk. The results were... well, they weren't good:
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/rptCornell_Goaltending_by_Year/rptCornell_Goaltending_1993.pdf
I don't think that's what I'm remembering - because I don't recall Skazyk as being a last-minute pickup to replace Duffus.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: BeeeejThen again, this sort of thing happens occasionally - maybe not all three goalies, but I recall at least one occasion (perhaps when Pelletier left?) when Cornell had to scramble after the usual recruiting season to put a credible backup goalie on the bench quickly, and it didn't turn out all that badly.
The Bad Time was 1993. Parris Duffus left early after 1992. That left us with an untried sophomore Bandurski and a freshman Skazyk. The results were... well, they weren't good:
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/rptCornell_Goaltending_by_Year/rptCornell_Goaltending_1993.pdf
I don't think that's what I'm remembering - because I don't recall Skazyk as being a last-minute pickup to replace Duffus.
Cornell played the first semester of the 1992-93 season with Andy Bandurski in goal, backed up by Geoff Raynak, a junior who had played the previous two seasons as the JV goalie. Eddy Skazyk didn't join the team until second semester. His first game was 1/30/93 vs. Colgate, gave up 5 goals (plus an empty-netter) in a 6-3 loss.
Quote from: ACMHis first game was 1/30/93 vs. Colgate, gave up 5 goals (plus an empty-netter) in a 6-3 loss.
I was at that game, in Hamilton. It was worse than the score.
On the way home we got stuck in mud (
not off-roading) and needed a passing truck to pull us out.
On the other hand, nobody got food poisoning.
If I am remembering correctly, Skazyk
was a recruit, but The Plan had been to give him an extra year of seasoning before bringing him in.
IIRC, when LeNeveu left early Mike had to scramble to bring in McKee.
Got an email about getting Harvard season tickets, with this quote:
"Become a season ticket holder today and save $30 off of single game prices – that's like getting tickets to the Cornell game for free!"
Familiar name joins Clarkson. (https://www.uscho.com/2018/07/05/longtime-miami-associate-coach-brekke-joins-clarkson-staff-as-new-assistant-coach/)
Individual Harvard hockey tickets are on sale now for season ticket holders. Also for those who purchased a mini-plan (purchase 3 different, non-Cornell games) tickets. This is phone only.
General sales for individual games are on sale 8/15.
Does Colgate have a goalie yet?
Quote from: margolismDoes Colgate have a goalie yet?
Their webpage still shows last year's roster. Makes me wonder...
I think their coach had a listing on CraigsList in search of a goalie.
@ Harvard tickets on sale today at 10 am (https://tickets.gocrimson.com/online/default.asp?doWork::WScontent::loadArticle=Load&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::article_id=0245181F-F350-44FD-AD69-92D6821851EB&sessionlanguage=)
Do we know if the Cornell sections at Lynah East are the same as last year?
Those tickets were going faster than I could click on the seats! I got some in Section 7.
I saw on USCHO that RPI has a recruit named Gunnarwolfe Fontaine. Make of that what you wish.
Quote from: scoop85I saw on USCHO that RPI has a recruit named Gunnarwolfe Fontaine. Make of that what you wish.
We get some odd names at times. It's too bad that Troy "New" York left, but we do have a freshman named Ottoville Leppänen. (Conceivably, Ottoville is a common name in Finland, but I haven't seen it before.)
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: scoop85I saw on USCHO that RPI has a recruit named Gunnarwolfe Fontaine. Make of that what you wish.
We get some odd names at times. It's too bad that Troy "New" York left, but we do have a freshman named Ottoville Leppänen. (Conceivably, Ottoville is a common name in Finland, but I haven't seen it before.)
Otto vill leapin ::twak:: de scrum.
Ottoville Leppänen sounds like an SM-liiga team.