It's meaningless, but it's what you do when you wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep.
[b][u]Preseason USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
September 25, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (48) 33- 7-4 998 1
2 Boston Univer 24-11-3 837 6
3 Minnesota 23-12-3 822 7
[b][u]4 Harvard ( 1) 28- 6-2 744 3[/u][/b]
5 UMass Lowell 27-11-3 711 4
6 Minnesota Duluth( 1) 28- 7-7 642 2
7 North Dakota 21-16-3 632 9
8 Notre Dame 23-12-5 611 5
9 St. Cloud State 16-19-1 547 NR
10 Penn State 25-12-2 530 8
11 Providence 22-12-5 494 15
12 Wisconsin 20-15-1 414 17
13 Boston College 21-15-4 366 16
[b][u]14 Quinnipiac 23-15-2 286 20
15 Cornell 21- 9-5 279 13
16 Union 25-10-3 215 11[/u][/b]
17 Air Force 27-10-5 203 12
18 Minnesota State 22-13-4 198 NR
19 Ohio State 21-12-6 180 14
20 Northeastern 18-15-5 172 NR
20 Western Michigan 22-13-5 172 10
Others receiving votes: Vermont 119, Michigan Tech 60, Bemidji State 52,
[b][u]Clarkson 45[/u][/b], Robert Morris 39, Miami 37, Michigan 24,
[b][u]St. Lawrence 18[/u][/b], Omaha 17, Bowling Green 16, [b][u]Yale 11[/u][/b],
Ferris State 5, [b][u]Brown 1[/u][/b], Canisius 1, [b][u]Dartmouth 1[/u][/b], New Hampshire 1.
[b][u]Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
September 25, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 510 (34) 1 33- 7-4
2 Boston University 424 6 24-12-3
3 University of Minnesota 408 7 23-12-3
[b][u]4 Harvard University 351 3 28- 6-2[/u][/b]
5 Providence College 348 15 22-12-5
6 St Cloud State Univer 281 NR 16-19-1
7 Univer of North Dakota 276 9 21-16-3
8 Univer of Notre Dame 269 4 23-12-5
9 UMass Lowell 266 5 27-11-3
10 Penn State University 206 8 25-12-2
11 University of Wisconsin 156 NR 20-15-1
11 Univer Minnesota Duluth 156 2 28- 7-7
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac University 103 NR 23-15-2[/u][/b]
14 Northeastern University 101 NR 18-15-5
15 Minnesota State Univer 41 NR 22-13-5
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell University 37[/u][/b], Ohio State University 32,
Boston College 30, [b][u]Clarkson University 22[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 22,
[b][u]Union College 14[/u][/b], Western Michigan University 12, Miami University 7,
Michigan Tech University 4, [b][u]Yale University 1.[/u][/b]
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 2, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 510 (34) 1 0-0-0
2 Boston University 426 2 1-0-0
3 University of Minnesota 403 3 0-0-0
[b][u]4 Harvard University 373 4 0-0-0[/u][/b]
5 Providence College 338 5 0-0-0
6 St Cloud State Univer 302 6 0-0-0
7 Univer of North Dakota 280 7 0-0-0
8 Univer of Notre Dame 263 8 0-0-0
9 UMass Lowell 238 9 0-0-0
10 University of Wisconsin 186 T11 1-0-0
11 Penn State University 168 10 0-0-0
12 Univer Minnesota Duluth 130 T11 0-0-0
13 Northeastern University 117 14 0-0-0
[b][u]14 Quinnipiac University 108 13 0-0-0[/u][/b]
15 Minnesota State Univer 59 15 0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Boston College 48, [b][u]Clarkson University 29[/u][/b],
Ohio State University 28, [b][u]Cornell University 28[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 23,
Miami University 14, Western Michigan University 7, [b][u]Union College 2[/u][/b].
[b][u]Preseason USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
September 18, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Clarkson (10) 32-4-5 141 1[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin ( 1) 33-3-4 128 2
3 Minnesota ( 4) 26-8-5 118 4
4 Boston College 28-6-5 110 3
5 Minnesota Duluth 25-7-5 87 5
[b][u]6 St. Lawrence 26-6-4 65 6
7 Cornell 20-9-5 49 7[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern 22-12-3 28 10
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 21-10-6 27 NR[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 24-5-6 24 8
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 16, Princeton 16[/u][/b],
Ohio State 5, [b][u]Harvard 4[/u][/b], Mercyhurst 4, Boston University 3.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 02, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (10) 4- 0-0 145 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson ( 5) 1- 0-1 134 1[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 0- 0-0 119 4
4 Minnesota 1- 1-0 94 3
4 Minnesota Duluth 2- 0-0 94 5
[b][u]6 St. Lawrence 0- 0-0 72 6
7 Cornell 0- 0-0 46 7[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern 0- 1-1 39 8
9 Robert Morris 0- 0-0 26 10
[b][u]10 Colgate 0- 0-0 21 NR[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 11, Merrimack 6, [b][u]Harvard 4[/u][/b],
Providence 4, [b][u]Quinnipiac 4, Princeton 3[/u][/b], Boston University 2, Bemidji State 1.
[b][u]Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
September 19, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
[b][u]1 Clarkson University 183 (14) 1 32-4-5[/u][/b]
2 University of Wisconsin 169 (3) 2 33-3-4
3 University of Minnesota 155 (2) 4 26-8-5
4 Boston College 129 3 28-6-5
5 Univer Minnesota Duluth 116 5 25-7-5
[b][u]6 St Lawrence University 72 6 26-6-4
7 Cornell University 71 7 20-9-5[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern University 42 10 22-12-3
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac University 36 NR 21-10-6[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris University27 8 24-5-6
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate University 20, Princeton University 15, Harvard University 4[/u][/b],
Boston University 2, Mercyhurts University 2, Ohio State University 2.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
September 26, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
[b][u]1 Clarkson University 182 (13) 1 0-0-0[/u][/b]
2 University of Wisconsin 174 (5) 2 2-0-0
3 University of Minnesota 152 (1) 3 0-0-0
4 Boston College 132 4 0-0-0
5 Univer Minnesota Duluth 112 5 0-0-0
[b][u]6 Cornell University 84 7 0-0-0
7 St Lawrence University 70 6 0-0-0[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern University 49 8 0-0-0
9 Robert Morris University39 10 0-0-0
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac University 23 9 0-0-0[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate University 15, Princeton University 5,
Harvard University 4[/u][/b], Ohio State University 3, Mercyhurst University 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 3, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Wisconsin 186 (15) 2 4-0-0
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 172 (4) 1 1-0-1[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 141 4 0-0-0
4 Univer Minnesota Duluth 125 5 2-0-0
5 University of Minnesota 122 3 1-1-0
[b][u]6 St Lawrence University 91 7 0-0-0
7 Cornell University 69 6 0-0-0[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern University 53 8 0-1-1
9 Robert Morris University37 9 0-0-0
[b][u]10 Colgate University 23 NR 0-0-0[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Quinnipiac University 10[/u][/b], Ohio State University 6,
[b][u]Princeton University 5[/u][/b], Merrimack College 4, Providence College 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-womens/2017-2018/poll,1003/october-3,-2017/#ixzz4uoh3UHHa
Quote from: Jim Hyla[code]Brown 1
Props to that voter.
Summary (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2018/2018_Preseason.html) of the pre-season polls.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 09, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (45) 0- 0-0 995 1
2 Boston University( 5) 2- 0-0 947 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 0- 0-0 849 4[/u][/b]
4 Notre Dame 2- 0-0 743 8
5 Minnesota Duluth 1- 1-0 726 6
6 St. Cloud State 1- 0-0 723 9
7 Minnesota 1- 1-0 708 3
8 North Dakota 1- 0-1 678 7
9 Providence 2- 0-0 670 11
10 Wisconsin 2- 1-0 424 12
11 Penn State 1- 1-0 410 10
12 UMass Lowell 0- 2-0 365 5
13 Boston College 0- 0-1 346 13
14 Northeastern 2- 0-0 291 20
[b][u]15 Clarkson 2- 0-0 267 NR[/u][/b]
15 Michigan Tech 2- 1-0 267 NR
[b][u]17 Quinnipiac 0- 1-1 257 14
18 Cornell 0- 0-0 226 15[/u][/b]
19 Air Force 1- 0-1 161 17
20 New Hampshire 2- 0-0 134 NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 132, Minnesota State 61,
Western Michigan 36, [b][u]Colgate 24[/u][/b], Michigan 16, [b][u]Union 14[/u][/b],
Bemidji State 12, Vermont 6, Omaha 5, Army 4, Miami 2, [b][u]Brown 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 9, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 510 (34) 1 0-0-0
2 Boston University 467 2 2-0-0
[b][u]3 Harvard University 373 4 0-0-0[/u][/b]
4 St Cloud State Univer 353 6 1-0-0
5 Providence College 338 5 2-0-0
6 University of Notre Dame316 8 2-0-0
7 University of Minnesota 312 3 1-1-0
8 Univer of North Dakota 246 7 1-0-1
9 Univer Minnesota Duluth 233 12 1-1-0
10 University of Wisconsin 172 10 2-1-0
11 Penn State University 126 11 1-1-0
12 UMass Lowell 99 9 0-2-0
13 Michigan Tech University98 NR 2-1-0
14 Northeastern University 93 13 2-0-0
[b][u]15 Clarkson University 77 NR 2-0-0[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Boston College 71, [b][u]Quinnipiac University 64,
Cornell University 46[/u][/b], Ohio State University 39, University of New Hampshire 28,
United States Air Force Academy 16, Army West Point 1, [b][u]Colgate University 1[/u][/b] Miami University 1.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 09, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (10) 6- 0-0 143 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson ( 5) 3- 0-1 135 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 2- 0-0 127 3
[b][u]4 St. Lawrence 1- 0-1 80 6[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota Duluth 2- 2-0 68 4
6 Northeastern 2- 1-1 60 8
7 Ohio State 3- 0-1 59 NR
[b][u]8 Colgate 2- 0-0 43 10[/u][/b]
9 Minnesota 1- 2-1 42 4
10 Robert Morris 2- 0-0 29 9
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell 28[/u][/b], Providence 6,
[b][u]Harvard 3[/u][/b], Bemidji State 1, [b][u]Princeton 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 10, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Wisconsin 182 (13) 1 6-0-0
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 176 (6) 2 3-0-1[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 155 3 2-0-0
[b][u]4 St Lawrence University 116 6 1-0-1[/u][/b]
5 Northeastern University 92 8 2-1-1
6 Univer Minnesota Duluth 80 4 2-2-0
7 Ohio State University 58 NR 3-0-1
T8 University of Minnesota 48 5 1-2-1
[b][u]T8 Colgate University 48 10 2-0-0
10 Cornell University 44 7 0-0-0[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris University 37, Providence College 7,
Bemidji State University 1, [b][u]Princeton University 1[/u][/b].
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-womens/#ixzz4vCAzw2qA
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (49) 1- 0-1 999 1
[b][u]2 Harvard 0- 0-0 897 3[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State ( 1) 3- 0-0 886 6
4 North Dakota 3- 0-1 791 8
5 Notre Dame 2- 1-1 772 4
6 Wisconsin 4- 1-0 731 10
7 Boston University 2- 2-0 621 2
8 Minnesota 2- 2-0 583 7
9 Minnesota Duluth 1- 2-1 513 5
10 Providence 2- 1-0 495 9
11 Penn State 2- 2-0 454 11
[b][u]12 Clarkson 3- 0-1 436 15[/u][/b]
13 Boston College 1- 1-1 378 13
14 Minnesota State 2- 1-0 344 NR
15 Michigan Tech 3- 1-1 316 15
16 Northeastern 2- 0-1 310 14
17 New Hampshire 4- 0-0 255 20
[b][u]18 Quinnipiac 1- 1-1 184 17[/u][/b]
19 UMass Lowell 1- 3-0 164 12
20 Air Force 3- 0-1 159 19
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell 126[/u][/b], Bemidji State 52, Ohio State 9,
Michigan 8, Omaha 7, Western Michigan 5, Army 2, Vermont 2, [b][u]Dartmouth 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 510 (34) 1 1-0-1
2 St Cloud State Univer 418 4 3-0-0
[b][u]3 Harvard University 404 3 0-0-0[/u][/b]
4 Univer of North Dakota 390 8 3-0-1
5 University of Wisconsin 364 10 4-1-0
6 Univer of Notre Dame 291 6 2-1-1
7 University of Minnesota 280 7 2-2-0
8 Boston University 252 2 2-2-0
9 Providence College 232 5 2-1-0
[b][u]10 Clarkson University 156 15 3-0-1[/u][/b]
11 Penn State University 138 11 2-2-0
12 Minnesota State Univer 122 NR 2-1-0
13 Univer Minnesota Duluth 111 9 1-2-1
14 Northeastern University 107 14 2-0-1
15 Boston College 67 NR 1-1-1
Others receiving votes: University of New Hampshire 65, Michigan Tech University 41,
UMass Lowell 37, [b][u]Quinnipiac University 34, Cornell University 22[/u][/b],
United States Air Force Academy 15, University of Massachusetts Amherst 10,
Northern Michigan University 6, Colorado College 4, Ohio State University 4.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (10) 8- 0-0 145 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson ( 5) 5- 0-1 135 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 2- 0-0 122 3
4 Ohio State 5- 0-1 101 7
[b][u]5 Colgate 4- 0-0 88 8
6 St. Lawrence 2- 0-2 75 4[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 3- 2-1 44 9
8 Minnesota Duluth 2- 4-0 37 5
9 Northeastern 2- 3-1 30 6
[b][u]10 Cornell 0- 0-0 18 NR[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 14, [b][u]Harvard 6[/u][/b],
Providence 3, Bemidji State 2, Maine 2, [b][u]Quinnipiac 2[/u][/b], Merrimack 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4viNeVnFc
I'll post it all, maybe even last week's, later, but the men are 18 and the women 8. Both have moved up.
For completeness sake here's last week.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (33) 2- 0-2 980 1
2 St. Cloud State (16) 5- 0-0 955 3
[b][u]3 Harvard ( 1) 0- 0-0 903 2[/u][/b]
4 North Dakota 4- 1-1 840 4
5 Wisconsin 5- 2-0 719 6
6 Boston University 3- 2-1 682 7
7 Minnesota 3- 3-0 659 8
8 Notre Dame 3- 2-1 615 5
[b][u]9 Clarkson 4- 1-1 532 12[/u][/b]
10 Minnesota Duluth 2- 2-2 526 9
11 Providence 3- 2-0 493 10
12 Minnesota State 3- 2-0 404 14
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac 3- 1-1 381 18[/u][/b]
14 New Hampshire 5- 1-0 338 17
15 Penn State 3- 3-0 322 11
16 Michigan Tech 4- 2-1 240 15
17 UMass Lowell 3- 3-0 222 19
18 Air Force 4- 1-1 149 20
19 Boston College 1- 3-1 131 13
20 Northeastern 2- 2-1 105 16
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 97, Michigan 67, [b][u]Cornell 65[/u][/b],
Bemidji State 45, Colorado College 11, Omaha 10,
Northern Michigan 4, Vermont 3, Army 2.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 503 (28) 1 2-0-2
2 St Cloud State Univer 476 (6) 2 5-0-0
[b][u]3 Harvard University 425 3 0-0-0[/u][/b]
4 Univer of North Dakota 383 4 4-1-1
5 Univer of Wisconsin 297 5 5-2-0
6 Boston University 279 8 3-2-1
7 University of Minnesota 275 7 3-3-0
8 University of Notre Dame220 6 3-2-1
[b][u]8 Clarkson University 220 3 3-0-1[/u][/b]
10 Providence College 219 9 3-2-0
11 Univer Minnesota Duluth 173 13 2-2-2
12 Univer of New Hampshire 128 NR 5-1-0
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac University 123 NR 3-1-1[/u][/b]
14 Minnesota State Univer 89 12 3-2-0
15 Penn State University 70 11 3-3-0
Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 64, United States Air Force Academy 44,
Michigan Tech University 31, [b][u]Cornell University 21[/u][/b], Boston College 18, Ohio State University 8,
Northeastern University 6, Northern Michigan University 5, Colorado College 3.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (11) 10- 0-0 146 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson ( 4) 7- 0-1 137 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 4- 0-1 117 3
4 Ohio State 7- 0-1 101 4
[b][u]5 Colgate 6- 0-0 93 5[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 5- 2-1 67 7
7 Northeastern 4- 3-1 40 9
[b][u]7 St. Lawrence 2- 2-2 40 6
9 Cornell 0- 0-0 22 10[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 5- 1-0 20 NR
Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth 15, [b][u]Harvard 10,[/u][/b]
Maine 9, [b][u]Princeton 4[/u][/b], Providence 3, New Hampshire 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 24, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Wisconsin 185 (14) 1 10-0-0
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 176 (5) 2 7-0-1[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 145 3 4-0-1
4 Ohio State University 130 4 7-0-1
[b][u]5 Colgate University 124 5 6-0-0[/u][/b]
6 University of Minnesota 88 7 5-2-1
7 Northeastern University 59 9 4-3-1
[b][u]8 St Lawrence University 52 6 2-2-2
9 Cornell University 22 NR 0-0-0[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris University22 10 5-1-0
Others receiving votes: University of Minnesota Duluth 15, University of Maine 8,
[b][u]Harvard University 7[/u][/b], University of New Hampshire 5, [b][u]Princeton University 4[/u][/b], Providence College 3.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-womens/#ixzz4x1twoGmu
And this week.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (42) 4- 0-2 991 1
2 St. Cloud State ( 8) 5- 0-0 952 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 1- 0-0 900 3[/u][/b]
4 North Dakota 5- 2-1 775 4
5 Minnesota 5- 3-0 759 7
6 Providence 5- 2-0 689 11
7 Wisconsin 6- 3-0 654 5
8 Minnesota Duluth 4- 2-2 621 10
9 Minnesota State 5- 2-0 605 12
10 Notre Dame 4- 3-1 515 8
[b][u]11 Quinnipiac 3- 1-1 459 13[/u][/b]
12 Boston University 3- 4-1 436 6
[b][u]13 Clarkson 4- 3-1 422 9[/u][/b]
13 New Hampshire 5- 1-1 422 14
15 Northeastern 4- 2-1 268 20
16 Ohio State 5- 1-2 220 NR
17 Penn State 4- 4-0 194 15
[b][u]18 Cornell 2- 0-0 133 NR[/u][/b]
19 Air Force 5- 2-1 108 18
20 Michigan Tech 4- 4-1 95 16
Others receiving votes: Michigan 77, Omaha 52, Bemidji State 50,
Colorado College 47, UMass Lowell 34, Northern Michigan 12,
Boston College 5, [b][u]Colgate 2[/u][/b], Miami 2, [b][u]Brown 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 510 (34) 1 4-0-2
2 St. Cloud State Univer 472 2 5-0-0
[b][u]3 Harvard University 435 3 1-0-0[/u][/b]
4 University of Minnesota 384 7 5-3-0
5 Univer of North Dakota 338 4 5-2-1
6 Providence College 327 10 5-2-0
7 University of Wisconsin 271 5 6-3-0
8 Univer Minnesota Duluth 258 11 4-2-2
9 Minnesota State Univer 216 14 5-2-0
10 University of Notre Dame186 T8 4-3-1
11 Boston University 158 6 3-4-1
[b][u]12 Quinnipiac University 126 13 3-1-1[/u][/b]
13 Univer of New Hampshire 119 12 5-1-1
[b][u]14 Clarkson University 106 T8 4-3-1[/u][/b]
15 Northeastern University 57 NR 4-2-1
Others receiving votes: Ohio State University 43, Penn State University 33,
[b][u]Cornell University 22[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 10, Michigan Tech University 4,
Colorado College 2, [b][u]Union College 2[/u][/b], University of Michigan 1.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 12- 0-0 150 1
2 Boston College 6- 0-1 128 3
[b][u]3 Clarkson 8- 1-1 118 2[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 7- 0-1 110 4
[b][u]5 Colgate 7- 1-0 94 5[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 5- 4-1 63 6
[b][u]7 St. Lawrence 3- 3-2 45 7
8 Cornell 1- 1-0 35 9[/u][/b]
9 Providence 6- 2-2 34 NR
10 Robert Morris 5- 1-2 15 10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 12, [b][u]Harvard 9[/u][/b],
Northeastern 8, [b][u]Princeton 3[/u][/b], Minnesota Duluth 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4x1wHnAwm
USA/USA Women's doesn't come out till Tuesday. I might not add it on Tuesdays.
Men are up to #14 in the USCHO poll and #12 in the USA Today poll.
Women climb one spot to #7.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (50) 7- 0-0 1000 2
2 North Dakota 6- 2-2 913 4
3 Denver 4- 2-2 870 1
4 Minnesota 7- 3-0 847 5
[b][u]5 Harvard 2- 1-0 806 3[/u][/b]
6 Notre Dame 6- 3-1 660 10
7 Wisconsin 6- 4-1 605 7
8 Providence 5- 3-0 602 6
9 New Hampshire 6- 1-1 552 13
10 Minnesota State 6- 3-0 547 9
[b][u]11 Clarkson 6- 3-1 541 13[/u][/b]
12 Minnesota Duluth 4- 4-2 442 8
13 Northeastern 5- 2-1 433 15
[b][u]14 Cornell 4- 0-0 419 18[/u][/b]
15 Boston University 4- 5-1 306 12
[b][u]16 Quinnipiac 3- 3-1 214 11[/u][/b]
17 Ohio State 5- 3-2 155 16
18 Western Michigan 5- 3-1 113 NR
19 Penn State 5- 5-0 79 17
20 Northern Michigan 5- 3-0 61 NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan 55, Colorado College 53, Omaha 52,
[b][u]Colgate 45[/u][/b], Bemidji State 41, Michigan Tech 18,
Air Force 17, Army 17, Boston College 12, Bowling Green 7,
Niagara 6, [b][u]Yale 5[/u][/b], UMass Lowell 4, Miami 3.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 6, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 510 (34) 2 7-0-0
2 University of Minnesota 427 4 7-3-0
3 University of Denver 416 1 4-2-2
4 University North Dakota 401 5 6-2-2
[b][u]5 Harvard University 372 3 2-1-0[/u][/b]
6 University of Notre Dame264 10 6-3-1
7 Providence College 245 6 5-3-0
8 University New Hampshire235 13 6-1-1
[b][u]9 Clarkson University 217 14 6-3-1[/u][/b]
10 University of Wisconsin 194 7 6-4-1
11 Minnesota State Univer 187 9 6-3-0
[b][u]12 Cornell University 166 NR 4-0-0[/u][/b]
13 Northeastern University 155 15 5-2-1
14 Univer Minnesota Duluth 85 8 4-4-2
15 Western Michigan Univer 78 NR 5-3-1
Others receiving votes: Boston University 75, [b][u]Quinnipiac University 18[/u][/b],
Northern Michigan University 9, Colorado College 7, Ohio State University 7,
University of Michigan 6, Bowling Green State University 3,
Army West Point 1, Bemidji State University 1, Penn State University 1.
[b][u]It's stupid, but looked so nice that I couldn't resist.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 7-0-0 1.000 1t 1.069* 1
[b][u]2 Cornell 58 4-0-0 1.000 1t .8162* 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 57 7-3-0 .7000 4t .6018 3
4 New Hampshire 56 6-1-1 .8125 3 .6002* 4
5 Minnesota State 55 6-3-0 .6667 8t .5953 5
[b][u]6 Clarkson 54 6-3-1 .6500 10t .5815 6[/u][/b]
7 North Dakota 53 6-2-2 .7000 4t .5756* 7
8 Western Michigan52 5-3-1 .6111 18 .5730 8
9 Northeastern 51 5-2-1 .6875 6t .5663 9
10 Denver 50 4-2-2 .6250 12t .5657* 10
11 North Michigan 49 5-3-0 .6250 12t .5597* 11
12 Colorado College48 6-4-0 .6000 19t .5550* 12
13 Providence 47 5-3-0 .6250 12t .5518 13
14 Bowling Green 46 4-3-2 .5556 25 .5517 14
15 Bemidji State 45 4-2-2 .6250 12t .5509 15
[b][u]16 Quinnipiac 44 3-3-1 .5000 27t .5446 16[/u][/b]
17 Michigan State 43 4-4-0 .5000 27t .5396 17
18 Notre Dame 42 6-3-1 .6500 10t .5389 18
[b][u]19 Colgate 41 4-2-4 .6000 19t .5348* 19[/u][/b]
20 Michigan 40 5-3-0 .6250 12t .5341 20
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 14- 0-0 150 1
2 Boston College 8- 0-1 132 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 10- 1-1 122 3
4 Colgate 9- 1-0 101 5[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 7- 2-1 84 4
6 Minnesota 7- 4-1 74 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 3- 1-0 56 8
8 St. Lawrence 5- 3-2 48 7[/u][/b]
9 Providence 6- 3-2 23 9
10 Robert Morris 7- 1-2 21 10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 13, Northeastern 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 14-0-0 1.000 1t .8035* 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 33 9-1-0 .9000 4 .6699* 3[/u][/b]
[b][u]3 Clarkson 32 10-1-1 .8750 5 .6640* 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 8-0-1 .9444 3 .6457* 5
[b][u]5 Cornell 30 3-1-0 .7500 7t .6377 6[/u][/b]
6 Ohio State 29 7-2-1 .7500 7t .5973 7
7t New Hampshire 27 6-1-3 .7500 7t .5847 8
[b][u]7t Harvard 27 2-1-0 .6667 10 .5698 9[/u][/b]
9 Minnesota 26 7-4-1 .6250 13 .5590 10
10 Robert Morris 25 7-1-2 .8000 6 .5579 11
11 Providence 24 6-3-2 .6364 12 .5551* 12
[b][u]12t St. Lawrence 23 5-3-2 .6000 14 .5534 13[/u][/b]
12t Northeastern 23 5-5-1 .5000 17t .5325 14
[b][u]14 Quinnipiac 21 5-6-0 .4545 20 .5276 15[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4xhTbWDgf
Be a little easier to see the most current poll if you change the subject line to include the poll date. I know there's a flag in front of unread messages, too, but it could be a comment on a previous week's poll.
Quote from: billhowardBe a little easier to see the most current poll if you change the subject line to include the poll date. I know there's a flag in front of unread messages, too, but it could be a comment on a previous week's poll.
Check out the change for the 11/6 polls. Is that what you mean? I thought putting the date first might be even easier, or does that screw up something else?
That's perfect, dating it at the beginning (or end, doesn't matter). You were the only one. Thank you. It's a good thing, too, for threads where one subject line covers the whole basketball or lacrosse season.
Up to 6th in USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national) with 4 first place votes, our most since January 19, 2009 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Poll_History.html).
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (43) 6- 2-2 992 3
2 St. Cloud State ( 1) 7- 2-0 914 1
3 North Dakota ( 2) 7- 2-3 913 2
4 Notre Dame 8- 3-1 809 6
5 Minnesota State 8- 3-0 710 10
[b][u]6 Cornell ( 4) 6- 0-0 709 14[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 7- 4-1 699 4
[b][u]8 Clarkson 8- 3-1 670 11[/u][/b]
9 Wisconsin 7- 5-1 542 7
10 Providence 6- 4-0 507 8
11 New Hampshire 6- 3-1 434 9
12 Northeastern 6- 3-1 432 13
[b][u]13 Harvard 2- 3-0 422 5[/u][/b]
14 Minnesota Duluth 5- 5-2 327 12
15 Western Michigan 6- 4-1 259 18
16 Ohio State 6- 3-3 256 17
17 Michigan 6- 3-1 230 NR
18 Boston University 5- 6-1 208 15
[b][u]19 Colgate 6- 2-4 165 NR[/u][/b]
20 Northern Michigan 6- 4-0 74 20
Others receiving votes: Boston College 61, Colorado College 49,
Omaha 28, UMass Lowell 19, Bowling Green 17, Army 12, Penn State 10,
[b][u]Quinnipiac 10, Union 7, Yale 6[/u][/b], Niagara 4, Bemidji State 2,
Rochester Institute of Technology 2, [b][u]Princeton 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 Cornell 59 6-0-0 1.000 1 .7309* 1[/u][/b]
2t St. Cloud State 57 7-2-0 .7778 2 .6342* 2
2t Denver 57 6-2-2 .7000 7 .6261* 3
4 Minnesota State 56 8-3-0 .7273 3 .6053 4
[b][u]5t Clarkson 55 8-3-1 .7083 4t .5894* 5[/u][/b]
5t Western Michigan55 6-4-1 .5909 20t .5772 6
7 Minnesota 53 7-4-1 .6250 13t .5744 7
8 Notre Dame 52 8-3-1 .7083 4t .5672 8
9 Michigan 51 6-3-1 .6500 9t .5524* 9
10 North Dakota 50 7-2-3 .7083 4t .5517* 10
11 New Hampshire 49 6-3-1 .6500 9t .5515 11
12 NorthernMichigan48 6-4-0 .6000 16t .5500 12
13 Omaha 47 4-3-1 .5625 24 .5499 13
14 Northeastern 46 6-3-1 .6500 9t .5495 14
[b][u]15 Colgate 45 6-2-4 .6667 8 .5430 15[/u][/b]
16 Bowling Green 44 5-3-3 .5909 20t .5338 16
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/#ixzz4yLf8Rd5G
I feel like forgetting about the USA poll. It's so late for men's and women's not till Tuesday.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 16- 0-0 150 1
2 Boston College 9- 1-1 127 2
[b][u]3 Colgate 11- 1-0 119 4
4 Clarkson 11- 2-1 109 3[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 9- 2-1 87 5
6 Minnesota 9- 4-1 75 6
[b][u]7 St. Lawrence 6- 4-2 55 8
8 Cornell 3- 3-0 46 7[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 9- 1-2 33 10
10 Providence 6- 3-3 21 9
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Harvard 2[/u][/b], New Hampshire 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4yLdf1jVw
Up to #5 in USA Today poll. They list us as Cornell COLLEGE. Geesh!
Quote from: GBR1234Up to #5 in USA Today poll. They list us as Cornell COLLEGE. Geesh!
Just goes to show how knowledgeable pollsters are.
Despite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-men/
Quote from: KenPDespite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-men/
That will rise when Harvard starts consistently winning as I (and I assume many others here) expect. I'm not convinced with QPac.
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: KenPDespite our divide-by-zero winning percentage, are #50 in SOS according to KRACH. You have to go down to #26 Niagara before finding someone with a weaker SOS.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-men/
That will rise when Harvard starts consistently winning as I (and I assume many others here) expect. I'm not convinced with QPac.
Agreed. And in the meantime, I really can't argue with #50. Our OOC SOS is exceptionally weak this year, which is why it's especially nice that we've started league play 4-0.
Win them all and it don't matter.
6 down, 31 to go.
NCAA voters let us off easy: 6-1 win over SLU, 4-0 loss to Clarkson only drops Cornell [University] from 6th to 7th. Maybe because we're the only one-loss team left. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1 Clarkson climbs 8th to 5th; fair enough.
Quote from: billhowardNCAA voters let us off easy: 6-1 win over SLU, 4-0 loss to Clarkson only drops Cornell [University] from 6th to 7th. Maybe because we're the only one-loss team left. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1 Clarkson climbs 8th to 5th; fair enough.
Same result in USA Today poll (7th, with Clarkson moving up to #5).
So when was the last time that the only ECAC teams with meaningful rankings in either polls or PWR, in both Men's and Women's, were all from NY.
And virtually the same 3 teams Clarkson, Colgate, and Cornell, for Men's and Women's.
And they all begin with C.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (30) 7- 3-2 976 1
2 St. Cloud State (18) 9- 2-0 953 2
3 North Dakota ( 2) 8- 3-3 903 3
4 Notre Dame 10- 3-1 836 4
[b][u]5 Clarkson 10- 3-1 759 8[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 9- 4-1 745 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 7- 1-0 686 6[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota State 9- 4-0 653 5
9 Wisconsin 8- 5-2 572 9
10 Providence 7- 4-1 531 10
11 Western Michigan 8- 4-1 489 15
12 Northeastern 7- 4-1 408 12
13 New Hampshire 6- 4-1 363 11
14 Boston College 8- 5-1 333 NR
15 Ohio State 6- 3-3 272 16
16 Minnesota Duluth 6- 6-2 257 14
17 Michigan 6- 4-2 208 17
[b][u]18 Colgate 7- 3-4 164 19[/u][/b]
19 Boston University 6- 7-1 80 18
19 UMass Lowell 8- 6-0 80 NR
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Harvard 68[/u][/b], Northern Michigan 54,
Bowling Green 43, Michigan State 12, [b][u]Quinnipiac 11[/u][/b], Holy Cross 9,
Penn State 8, Niagara 7, [b][u]Union 5, Yale 5[/u][/b], Army 4, Bemidji State 3,
Rochester Institute of Technology 2, Colorado College 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 490 (20) 1 7-3-2
2 St Cloud State Univer 485 (9) 2 9-2-0
3 University North Dakota 449 3 8-3-3
4 University Notre Dame 386 4 10-3-1
[b][u]5 Clarkson University 362 (3) 7 10-3-1[/u][/b]
6 University of Minnesota 328 (2) 6 9-4-1
[b][u]7 Cornell University 274 5 7-1-0[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota State Univer 260 8 9-4-0
9 Western Michigan Univer 206 14 8-4-1
10 University of Wisconsin 204 10 8-5-2
11 Providence College 193 9 7-4-1
12 Northeastern University 149 13 7-4-1
13 Boston College 71 NR 8-5-1
14 University New Hampshire 62 12 6-4-1
15 Univer Minnesota Duluth 60 15 6-6-2
Others receiving votes: Ohio State University 31, University of Michigan 23,
[b][u]Colgate University 20, Harvard University 16, Union College 8[/u][/b],
UMass Lowell 2, Bowling Green State University 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t St. Cloud State 58 9-2-0 .8182 2 .6485* 1
1t Denver 58 7-3-2 .6667 8 .6109* 2
[b][u]3t Clarkson 57 10-3-1 .7500 3t .6103* 3[/u][/b]
3t Western Michigan57 8-4-1 .6538 9 .6053 4
[b][u]5 Cornell 55 7-1-0 .8750 1 .6040* 5[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 54 9-4-1 .6786 6t .5949 6
7 Minnesota State 53 9-4-0 .6923 5 .5913 7
8 North Dakota 52 8-3-3 .6786 6t .5780* 8
9 Notre Dame 51 10-3-1 .7500 3t .5746 9
10 Michigan State 50 7-5-0 .5833 21t .5611 10
11 Bowling Green 49 6-4-3 .5769 24 .5610 11
12 Boston College 48 8-5-1 .6071 16 .5568* 12
13 Michigan 47 6-4-2 .5833 21t .5422 13
14 Providence 46 7-4-1 .6250 12t .5377 14
15 North Michigan 45 7-5-0 .5833 21t .5356 15
16 Wisconsin 44 8-5-2 .6000 17 .5341 16
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 16- 0-0 150 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 13- 1-0 127 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 10- 1-2 125 2
[b][u]4 Clarkson 12- 3-1 101 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 10- 2-2 88 5
6 Minnesota 11- 4-1 79 6
[b][u]7 St. Lawrence 7- 4-3 52 7
8 Cornell 5- 3-0 49 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 9- 1-2 28 9
10 Providence 8- 3-3 25 10
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 16-0-0 1.000 1t .7906* 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 33 13-1-0 .9286 3 .6676* 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 10-1-2 .8462 4 .6189 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 31 12-3-1 .7812 7 .6085* 5[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 10-2-2 .7857 6 .6058* 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 29 5-3-0 .6250 11t .5853 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 11-4-1 .7188 8 .5772 8
8 Providence 27 8-3-3 .6786 9 .5659* 9
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 26 7-4-3 .6071 13t .5653 10[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 25 9-1-2 .8333 5 .5611 11
11 Maine 24 9-6-1 .5938 15 .5399 12
[b][u]12 Quinnipiac 23 8-7-0 .5333 17 .5323 13[/u][/b]
13 New Hampshire 22 6-3-5 .6071 13t .5298 14
[b][u]14 Harvard 21 4-2-1 .6429 10 .5275 15[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#
Up to 5th in both USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national) and USA (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/).
Miami is tied (with Harvard, among others) for 27 in USCHO.
3. Clarkson
5. Cornell
17. Colgate
19. Union
27. Harvard
Quote from: TrotskyUp to 5th in both USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national) and USA (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/).
Miami is tied (with Harvard, among others) for 27 in USCHO.
3. Clarkson
5. Cornell
17. Colgate
19. Union
27. Harvard
Seems about right for the top 4 teams. BU was 18, and they took us to the wire. Colgate & Union are 17 & 19. Beware!
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (39) 7- 3-2 984 1
2 St. Cloud State ( 9) 9- 2-0 946 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson ( 1) 12- 3-1 862 5[/u][/b]
4 Notre Dame ( 1) 12- 3-1 860 4
[b][u]5 Cornell 9- 1-0 793 7[/u][/b]
6 North Dakota 8- 4-4 714 3
7 Minnesota 9- 6-1 676 6
8 Minnesota State 9- 5-0 568 8
9 Providence 8- 5-1 512 10
10 Western Michigan 9- 5-1 501 11
11 Ohio State 8- 3-3 465 15
12 Northeastern 7- 4-1 425 12
13 New Hampshire 7- 4-1 386 13
14 Wisconsin 9- 6-2 382 9
15 Boston College 8- 5-2 375 14
16 Minnesota Duluth 7- 6-2 300 16
[b][u]17 Colgate 8- 4-4 260 18[/u][/b]
18 UMass Lowell 8- 6-0 142 19
[b][u]19 Union 8- 6-1 130 NR[/u][/b]
20 Omaha 6- 5-1 65 NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan 48, Boston University 22,
Niagara 19, Michigan State 14, Canisius 11, Penn State 11,
Bemidji State 3, Bowling Green 3, [b][u]Harvard 3[/u][/b], Holy Cross 3,
Miami 3, Colorado College 2, Massachusetts 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 508 (32) 1 7-3-2
2 St Cloud State Univer 466 (1) 2 9-2-0
3 University of Notre Dame444 (1) 4 12-3-1
[b][u]4 Clarkson University 414 5 12-3-1
5 Cornell University 359 7 9-1-0[/u][/b]
6 University North Dakota 323 3 8-4-4
7 University of Minnesota 304 6 9-6-1
8 Western Michigan Univer 220 9 9-5-1
9 Providence College 201 11 8-5-1
10 Minnesota State Univer 184 8 9-5-0
11 Northeastern University 159 12 7-4-1
12 University of Wisconsin 131 10 9-6-2
13 Ohio State University 128 NR 8-3-3
14 University New Hampshire 82 14 7-4-1
15 Univer Minnesota Duluth 52 15 7-6-2
Others receiving votes: Boston College 49, [b][u]Union College 31[/u][/b],
[b][u]Colgate[/u][/b], UMass Lowell 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t St. Cloud State 58 9-2-0 .8182 2 .6464* 1
[b][u]1t Clarkson 58 12-3-1 .7812 3t .6203* 2[/u][/b]
3 Denver 57 7-3-2 .6667 6 .6137* 3
4 Notre Dame 56 12-3-1 .7812 3t .6069* 4
[b][u]5t Cornell 55 9-1-0 .9000 1 .6031* 5[/u][/b]
5t Western Michigan55 9-5-1 .6333 9 .5851 6
7 Minnesota 53 9-6-1 .5938 16 .5680 7
8 Minnesota State 52 9-5-0 .6429 8 .5615 8
9 Omaha 51 6-5-1 .5417 21t .5562 9
10 Ohio State 50 8-3-3 .6786 5 .5521 10
11 North Dakota 49 8-4-4 .6250 10t .5499* 11
12 Boston College 48 8-5-2 .6000 15 .5482 12
[b][u]13t Colgate 46 8-4-4 .6250 10t .5460 13[/u][/b]
13t Providence 46 8-5-1 .6071 14 .5452 14
13t New Hampshire 46 7-4-1 .6250 10t .5376 15
16 Minnesota Duluth44 7-6-2 .5333 25t .5353 16
17 UMass Lowell 43 8-6-0 .5714 19 .5300 17
18t Michigan State 41 7-6-1 .5357 24 .5298 18
18t Northeastern 41 7-4-1 .6250 10t .5294 19
[b][u]20 Union 40 8-6-1 .5667 20 .5232 20[/u][/b]
21t Canisius 39 8-4-1 .6538 7 .5208 21
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 17- 1-0 150 1
2 Boston College 11- 1-2 130 3
[b][u]3 Colgate 14- 2-0 115 2
4 Clarkson 12- 3-1 109 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 11- 3-2 82 5
6 Minnesota 13- 4-1 78 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 7- 3-1 57 8
8 St. Lawrence 7- 4-3 53 7[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 10- 2-2 29 9
10 Providence 9- 5-3 14 10
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 7, Minnesota Duluth 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 17-1-0 .9444 2 .7096* 2
[b][u]2 Colgate 33 14-2-0 .8750 3 .6302* 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 11-1-2 .8571 4 .6261* 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 31 12-3-1 .7812 6 .6053* 5[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 11-3-2 .7500 7t .5892 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 29 7-3-1 .6818 9 .5878 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 13-4-1 .7500 7t .5782 8
8 Robert Morris 27 10-2-2 .7857 5 .5692 9
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 26 7-4-3 .6071 14 .5633 10[/u][/b]
10 Providence 25 9-5-3 .6176 11 .5500 11
11 Northeastern 24 9-7-2 .5556 15 .5450 12
12 Maine 23 10-6-2 .6111 12t .5373 13
[b][u]13 Harvard 22 5-3-1 .6111 12t .5273 14
14 Quinnipiac 21 8-7-2 .5294 18t .5246 15[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4zfWhjHl4
Pictorial representation (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Poll_Block.html) of Cornell in the poll since 1996.
Nice table. FYP.
That is awesome.
If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?
And where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?
Quote from: BeeeejAnd where are Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Feola?
Feola's there. What, you can't see him?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?
If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.
Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).
That would be a lot of fun.
So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.
Consider side eye given.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82If you do one for the Women's team, do you use Ms. Pac-man?
If I did one for the women's team it would be almost solid red and orange.
Speaking of which, I would DEARLY LOVE to have our rankings in the polls for all the other years so I could do similar presentations and amend our old box scores with our (and opponents' rankings).
That would be a lot of fun.
So if somebody had, oh, I dunno... decades and decades of old programs and Don Birkmeyer and other resources, that would be a great source of that data.
Consider side eye given.
Yeah, yeah I know. I've made some progress, in that I've brought the boxes up from the basement and that means Sherri won't let me leave them in view forever.
But I don't know how I'd get you the data. Once I do an inventory, I plan on giving them to the library, and if they'd scan them and put them online, I might donate some money.
I guess once they're in Ithaca, you could view them when you come. But considering how long it's taken me to get this far (and that ain't far), I don't think you can rely upon me to get you the data.
However, it turns out I may not be going to Miami. If not, I'll devote some time to doing an inventory.
isnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?
Quote from: upprdeckisnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?
In a word?
No.
I've done something like 95% of the box scores, from a hundred different sources over, well, 30 years of work including work by many busy beaver assistants and also Art's incredible records. But that doesn't get me the poll data.
The best bet would be the Boston Globe, which did a very decent job of reporting polls at least from the 80s onwards, or Birkmeyer since I believe he faithfully reported the polls from the 50s through the 80s. Until recently at least the Globe archiving project was proceeding slooooooooooooowly, but I haven't checked for about a year. Their indexing is horrific so it's almost like mounting old microfiche and scrolling through it. If ever there was a job for AI.
Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.
It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.
If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckisnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?
In a word?
Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.
It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.
If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.
I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall. What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckisnt most of this pretty easy to get from the SUN archives?
In a word?
Edit: It appears they have no gone back prior to 1980, and what little they have is behind a pay wall. Fuck that.
It's extremely labor intensive so you really need somebody like me with exceedingly low self esteem to dig through it all.
If at some point all that shit is scanned and uploaded then all that is needed is picking through it like an enormous data garbage heap. I'm cool with that.
I'm a Globe subscriber online, so I can get behind the pay wall. What exactly do you want searched for...I can donate a small amount of time
As much as I appreciate it, it won't be a small amount of time. :-)
isnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?
Quote from: upprdeckisnt it all free if you go thru the cornell archives?
You're assuming (1) there are Cornell archives and (2) we have an AD or SID who returns emails.
Obviously the last 25+ years of work would have been easier with Cornell's help. For whatever reason that has never been forthcoming despite many approaches.
The smaller the fiefdom, the more jealously guarded.
no i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.
Quote from: upprdeckno i mean you can get to all the boston globe stuff for free thru the cornell archives for free.
How?
anyone with cornell access can get to most any paper thru the library system. but you need a netid
Yes with an active netid you can get things like the Globe going way back through things like the library's subscription to the Proquest Historical Newspapers collection (http://resolver.library.cornell.edu/misc/5071678).
Some services require a student or faculty netid and alumni aren't covered, but many services are covered for alumni netids too: https://alumni.library.cornell.edu
Pick any major newspaper and search the Cornell library catalog, taking into account changes in publication name over time, and chances are it is online through one or more of the resources the library subscribes to or has digitized themselves:
Boston Globe up to 1960: https://newcatalog.library.cornell.edu/catalog/9135035
1960 to Present:
https://newcatalog.library.cornell.edu/catalog/5370668
In searching the Globe archive, I found it amusing that at least since 1951 they were discussing issues surrounding the NCAA team selection. Globe, March 1951: (http://i64.tinypic.com/2m28e1w.jpg)
Quote from: upprdeckanyone with cornell access can get to most any paper thru the library system. but you need a netid
Oh. Huh, I will have to try this.
And Greg, you'll be happy to know that I brought my stuff in and started working on it. I'm starting with the "Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter". I'm going to see what issues I'm missing and whether RPI or UNH, the 2 schools that I know have many issues in their library system, could fill in my gaps. Then, before doing anything more, I'll contact CU and see what we can do. I don't have any idea what it would cost to get them posted, but I'll ask.
Hopefully RPI will augment mine, as I suspect I might be able to look at them and hopefully copy what I need. Maybe I have some they can use.
So do any of our RPI fans have any contacts in their library system? I know they have online which issues they have, but if I'm going to copy some, I might need to get some sort of authorization. I think Mr. Birkmayer would give his okay.
With any luck, but I'm working this weekend, I'll at least get them inventoried this weekend.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 04, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (39) 9- 3-2 987 1
2 St. Cloud State ( 9) 11- 2-0 947 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson ( 1) 13- 3-1 879 3[/u][/b]
4 Notre Dame ( 1) 14- 3-1 874 4
5 North Dakota 10- 4-4 792 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 10- 2-0 756 5[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 10- 7-1 667 7
8 Minnesota State 9- 5-0 643 8
9 Providence 9- 6-1 571 9
10 Northeastern 9- 5-1 467 12
11 Western Michigan 9- 7-1 450 10
12 Wisconsin 10- 7-2 432 14
13 New Hampshire 8- 5-1 412 13
14 Boston College 9- 6-2 396 15
15 Ohio State 8- 4-4 388 11
[b][u]16 Colgate 8- 5-4 176 17[/u][/b]
17 Minnesota Duluth 7- 8-2 160 16
18 Penn State 9- 7-2 138 NR
[b][u]19 Union 9- 7-1 115 19[/u][/b]
20 Niagara 9- 5-1 62 NR
Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 36, Omaha 32,
Bowling Green 30, Michigan 29, Boston University 28, Miami 13,
Massachusetts 6, Canisius 5, [b][u]Harvard 5[/u][/b], Army 3, Colorado College 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 4, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 506 (30) 1 9-3-2
2 St. Cloud State Univer 472 (3) 2 11-2-0
[b][u]3 Clarkson University 431 (1) 4 13-3-1[/u][/b]
4 University of Notre Dame425 3 14-3-1
5 University North Dakota 364 6 10-4-4
[b][u]6 Cornell University 348 5 10-2-0[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota 286 7 10-7-1
8 Minnesota State Univer 253 10 9-5-0
9 Providence College 244 9 9-6-1
10 Western Michigan Univer 168 8 9-7-1
11 Northeastern University 136 11 9-5-1
12 University of Wisconsin 107 12 10-7-2
13 Ohio State University 101 13 8-4-4
14 Boston College 95 NR 9-6-2
15 University New Hampshire 88 14 8-5-1
Others receiving votes: Penn State University 17, University of Minnesota Duluth 17,
[b][u]Union College 12, Colgate University 7[/u][/b], University of Nebraska Omaha 3.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Denver 59 9-3-2 .7143 5 .6227* 2
2 St. Cloud State 58 11-2-0 .8462 1 .6536* 1
[b][u]3 Clarkson 57 13-3-1 .7941 4 .6162* 3[/u][/b]
4 Notre Dame 56 14-3-1 .8056 3 .6152* 4
[b][u]5 Cornell 55 10-2-0 .8333 2 .5924* 5[/u][/b]
6 North Dakota 54 10-4-4 .6667 6 .5724* 6
7 Minnesota 53 10-7-1 .5833 16 .5637 7
8 Minnesota State 52 9-5-0 .6429 7 .5599 8
9 Western Michigan51 9-7-1 .5588 19t .5576 9
10 Providence 50 9-6-1 .5938 13 .5485 10
11 Boston College 49 9-6-2 .5882 14t .5430 11
12 Ohio State 48 8-4-4 .6250 10 .5401 12
13 Penn State 47 9-7-2 .5556 22 .5360 13
14 Omaha 46 6-7-1 .4643 37t .5345 14
15t New Hampshire 44 8-5-1 .6071 11t .5310 15
15t Wisconsin 44 10-7-2 .5789 17 .5289 16
[b][u]17 Colgate 43 8-5-4 .5882 14t .5285 17[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 04, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 19- 1-0 150 1
2 Boston College 13- 1-3 132 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 14- 3-1 122 4
4 Colgate 15- 3-0 106 3
5 Cornell 8- 4-1 79 7[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 14- 5-1 71 6
7 Ohio State 11- 3-4 69 5
8 Providence 10- 5-4 31 10
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 7- 6-3 31 8[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 11- 3-2 30 9
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 3, Maine 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 19-1-0 .9500 2 .6994* 2
[b][u]2 Colgate 33 15-3-0 .8333 4 .6321* 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 13-1-3 .8529 3 .6271 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 31 14-3-1 .8056 5 .6269* 5
5 Cornell 30 8-4-1 .6538 9 .5918* 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 29 14-5-1 .7250 7 .5746 7
7 Ohio State 28 11-3-4 .7222 8 .5731 8
8 Providence 27 10-5-4 .6316 10 .5524 9
9 Robert Morris 26 11-3-2 .7500 6 .5506 10
[b][u]10 St. Lawrence 25 7-6-3 .5312 16 .5459 11[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz50LGj0EAS
I have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.
Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.
Quote from: ursusminorI have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.
Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.
Thanks, I've talked to him, in fact brought a Sun reporter with me to interview him a couple of years ago. Article in the Sun resulted.
He no longer has anything. It was all given to the guy who kept it up for a couple more years, before it folded. I've got his name, but no address (western Mass).
I know I'm short a couple of issues in the post '66 years. That's when I started. When I index them, I may contact you about those I'm missing.
But I need pre '67 issues.
No problem. If you contact me, do it by private message or email. I read eLynah on a very random basis.
Quote from: ursusminorI have the IHN back to 1969 or 1970. As opposed to you, my copies are on a top shelf in a closet, but they have gotten somewhat out of order.
Assuming that he is still alive, your best bet might be to contact the original publisher Don Birkmayer (RPI '49), who moved to Ithaca when he retired.
Well, we clearly need to get together finally.
North Dakota ties one, loses one while Cornell DNP. Cornell up one to fifth place, ND down one to sixth. http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
5 in USA too.
Team always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 11, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (35) 12- 2-1 978 2
2 Denver ( 8) 9- 3-4 918 1
3 Notre Dame ( 6) 16- 3-1 907 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson ( 1) 15- 3-1 893 3
5 Cornell 10- 2-0 760 6[/u][/b]
6 North Dakota 10- 5-5 758 5
7 Minnesota State 11- 5-0 694 8
8 Northeastern 10- 5-1 617 10
9 Ohio State 10- 4-4 566 15
10 Minnesota 10- 9-1 519 7
11 Providence 10- 7-1 516 9
12 Western Michigan 10- 8-1 433 11
13 Wisconsin 10- 9-2 335 12
14 Boston College 9- 7-2 327 14
15 Penn State 11- 7-2 322 18
16 New Hampshire 9- 7-1 260 13
17 Minnesota Duluth 8- 9-2 150 17
[b][u]18 Colgate 8- 6-4 129 16
19 Union 10- 8-1 74 19[/u][/b]
20 Canisius 10- 5-1 69 NR
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green 61, Colorado College 50,
Miami 37, UMass Lowell 33, Omaha 26, Boston University 20, [b][u]Harvard 16[/u][/b],
Michigan 14, Massachusetts 10, Niagara 4, Army 2, Bentley 1, Maine 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 11, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 502 (27) 2 12-2-1
2 University of Denver 451 (3) 1 9-3-4
3 University of Notre Dame448 (3) 4 16-3-1
[b][u]4 Clarkson University 435 (1) 3 15-3-1
5 Cornell University 353 6 10-2-0[/u][/b]
6 University North Dakota 344 5 10-5-5
7 Minnesota State Univer 308 8 11-5-0
8 Northeastern University 233 11 10-5-1
9 Ohio State University 223 13 10-4-4
10 University of Minnesota 182 7 10-9-1
11 Providence College 177 9 10-7-1
12 Western Michigan Univer 159 10 10-8-1
13 Penn State University 91 NR 11-7-2
14 Boston College 73 14 9-7-2
15 University of Wisconsin 55 12 10-9-2
Others receiving votes: University of New Hampshire 16, [b][u]Union College 11[/u][/b],
University of Minnesota Duluth 7, Canisius College 5, [b][u]Colgate University 4,[/u][/b]
University of Michigan 2, University of Nebraska Omaha 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 12-2-1 .8333 1t .6408* 1
2 Notre Dame 58 16-3-1 .8250 3 .6158* 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 57 15-3-1 .8158 4 .6108* 3[/u][/b]
4 Denver 56 9-3-4 .6875 5t .6086* 4
[b][u]5 Cornell 55 10-2-0 .8333 1t .5853* 5[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota State 54 11-5-0 .6875 5t .5666 6
7 North Dakota 53 10-5-5 .6250 10 .5665* 7
8 Ohio State 52 10-4-4 .6667 7 .5606 8
9 Minnesota 51 10-9-1 .5250 25 .5454 9
10 Western Michigan50 10-8-1 .5526 19t .5446 10
11 Penn State 49 11-7-2 .6000 11 .5428 11
12 Northeastern 48 10-5-1 .6562 8t .5385 12
13 Providence 47 10-7-1 .5833 12 .5382 13
14 Boston College 46 9-7-2 .5556 17t .5337 14
15 Omaha 45 7-8-1 .4688 39t .5319 15
16 Minnesota Duluth44 8-9-2 .4737 36 .5318 16
17 Colorado College43 7-7-2 .5000 27t .5316* 17
18 Canisius 42 10-5-1 .6562 8t .5292 18
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 11, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 21- 1-0 150 1
2 Boston College 15- 1-3 133 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 17- 3-1 120 3
4 Colgate 15- 3-1 105 4
5 Cornell 8- 4-1 84 5[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 15- 5-2 69 6
7 Ohio State 11- 3-4 63 7
8 Providence 11- 5-4 37 8
9 Robert Morris 11- 3-3 30 10
[b][u]10 St. Lawrence 9- 6-3 29 8[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Maine 3, Bemidji State 1, Northeastern 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 21-1-0 .9545 1 .7014* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 17-3-1 .8333 4 .6284* 3
3 Colgate 32 15-3-1 .8158 5 .6268* 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 15-1-3 .8684 3 .6260* 5
[b][u]5 Cornell 30 8-4-1 .6538 9 .5896* 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 29 15-5-2 .7273 7 .5800* 7
7 Ohio State 28 11-3-4 .7222 8 .5787 8
8 Providence 27 11-5-4 .6500 10 .5552 9
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 26 9-6-3 .5833 14 .5524 10[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 25 11-3-3 .7353 6 .5479 11
11 Maine 24 12-6-3 .6429 11 .5413 12
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz50zcOAieN
Ffffive!
(http://lzimages.lazygirls.info/king_kong_bundy_five_count_VNRhcaTV.sized)
Or you could say 5 + 5, men and women. But of course, all that it means is that the voters have caught up with the machines, PWR.
Quote from: Trotsky(http://lzimages.lazygirls.info/king_kong_bundy_five_count_VNRhcaTV.sized)
Is that George "The Animal" Steele? The guy with the green tongue? ::banana::
Quote from: TimVQuote from: Trotsky(http://lzimages.lazygirls.info/king_kong_bundy_five_count_VNRhcaTV.sized)
Is that George "The Animal" Steele? The guy with the green tongue? ::banana::
King Kong Bundy!
Quote from: billhowardTeam always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.
To prove your point, Clarkson swept SLUt and dropped one place. ::wtf::
(http://cdn.sescoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/george-steele.jpg)
George "The Animal" Steele
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardTeam always fares better in weeks when they study for exams. No chance of losing games or ground.
To prove your point, Clarkson swept SLUt and dropped one place. ::wtf::
Telegraph lines from Potsdam were down.
How often does he clean the shower drain?
No polls this week, and don't know about the next 2, but thought I'd keep track of the PWRs.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 12-2-1 .8333 1t .6379* 1
2 Notre Dame 58 16-3-1 .8250 3 .6130* 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 57 15-3-1 .8158 4 .6102* 3
4 Cornell 56 10-2-0 .8333 1t .5872* 4[/u][/b]
5 Denver 55 10-4-4 .6667 6t .5861* 5
6 Minnesota State 54 13-5-0 .7222 5 .5737 6
7 North Dakota 53 10-5-5 .6250 10 .5619* 7
8 Ohio State 52 10-4-4 .6667 6t .5611 8
9 Minnesota 51 10-9-1 .5250 28 .5446 9
10 Western Michigan50 10-8-1 .5526 19t .5418 10
11 Penn State 49 11-7-2 .6000 11 .5409 11
12 Providence 48 10-7-1 .5833 12 .5398 12
13 Northeastern 47 10-5-2 .6471 9 .5379 13
14 Boston College 46 9-7-2 .5556 17t .5338 14
15 Omaha 45 7-8-1 .4688 38 .5318 15
16 Minnesota Duluth44 8-9-2 .4737 35 .5294 16
17 Canisius 43 10-5-1 .6562 8 .5291 17
18t Bowling Green 41 8-5-6 .5789 13 .5258 18
18t Colorado College41 8-7-3 .5278 26t .5255* 19
18t Miami 41 8-8-2 .5000 30t .5252 20
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 21-1-0 .9545 1 .6986* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 17-3-1 .8333 4 .6287* 3
3 Colgate 32 15-3-1 .8158 5 .6281* 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 15-1-3 .8684 3 .6274 5
[b][u]5 Cornell 30 8-4-1 .6538 9 .5914* 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 29 15-5-2 .7273 7 .5793* 7
7 Ohio State 28 12-4-4 .7000 8 .5720 8
8 Providence 27 11-5-4 .6500 10 .5567 9
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 26 9-6-3 .5833 14 .5554 10[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 25 11-3-3 .7353 6 .5475 11
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz51eYekUMf
Same as last week, no polls, but here's the PWRs.
The men didn't move, but got a better distance from Denver and Ohio State
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 12-2-3 .7941 4 .6203* 1
2 Notre Dame 58 16-3-1 .8250 2 .6165* 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 57 15-3-1 .8158 3 .6103* 3
4 Cornell 56 11-2-0 .8462 1 .5983* 4[/u][/b]
5 Denver 55 11-5-4 .6500 8 .5746* 5
6 Ohio State 54 12-4-4 .7000 5t .5678 6
7 North Dakota 53 10-5-5 .6250 9t .5632* 7
8 Minnesota State 52 14-6-0 .7000 5t .5632 8
9 Minnesota 51 12-9-1 .5682 17 .5545 9
10 Western Michigan50 11-8-1 .5750 15t .5529 10
11 Providence 49 12-7-1 .6250 9t .5480 11
12 Penn State 48 11-7-2 .6000 12 .5432 12
13 Northeastern 47 11-5-2 .6667 7 .5392 13
14 Omaha 46 9-8-1 .5278 24 .5389 14
15 Boston College 45 10-7-2 .5789 14 .5349 15
16 Minnesota Duluth44 9-9-3 .5000 29t .5328 16
17 Miami 43 8-8-2 .5000 29t .5263 17
18 Wisconsin 42 10-9-2 .5238 28 .5252 18
19 Canisius 41 10-6-1 .6176 11 .5190 19
20 Colorado College40 9-8-3 .5250 26t .5178* 20
21 North Michigan 39 11-9-2 .5455 22 .5178 21
[b][u]22 Colgate 38 8-6-4 .5556 19 .5174 22[/u][/b]
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 21-1-0 .9545 1 .6994* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 17-3-1 .8333 4 .6304* 2
3 Colgate 32 15-3-1 .8158 5 .6302* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 15-1-3 .8684 3 .6262 4
[b][u]5 Cornell 30 8-4-1 .6538 9 .5932* 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 29 15-5-2 .7273 7 .5794* 7
7 Ohio State 28 12-4-4 .7000 8 .5726 8
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 27 9-6-3 .5833 14 .5578 9[/u][/b]
9 Providence 26 11-5-4 .6500 10 .5576 10
10 Robert Morris 25 11-3-3 .7353 6 .5499 11
11 Maine 24 12-6-3 .6429 11 .5431 12
12 Northeastern 23 10-9-2 .5238 18 .5377 13
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac 22 11-8-2 .5714 16 .5350 14
14 Harvard 21 7-4-1 .6250 12 .5270 15[/u][/b]
The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
Quote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 2, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (33) 12-2-3 970 1
2 Notre Dame (14) 16-3-1 936 3
[b][u]3 Clarkson (1) 15-3-1 898 4[/u][/b]
4 Denver (1) 11-5-4 826 2
[b][u]5 Cornell (1) 11-2-0 823 5[/u][/b]
6 North Dakota 10-5-5 766 6
7 Minnesota State 14-6-0 687 7
8 Ohio State 12-4-4 647 9
9 Northeastern 11-5-2 595 8
10 Minnesota 12-9-1 527 10
11 Providence 12-7-1 508 11
12 Western Michigan 11-8-1 456 12
13 Boston College 10-7-2 376 14
14 Penn State 11-7-2 325 15
15 Wisconsin 10-9-2 319 13
16 Minnesota Duluth 9-9-3 222 17
[b][u]17 Colgate 8-6-4 164 18[/u][/b]
18 Omaha 9-8-1 118
19 Bowling Green 9-6-6 88
20 New Hampshire 9-9-1 54 16
Other Receiving Votes: Canisius 39, Miami 38, Maine 21,
Northern Michigan 20, Colorado College 19, [b][u]Union 17[/u][/b],
UMass Lowell 16, Boston University 6, Michigan Tech 6,
Massachusetts 6, Michigan 4, Bentley 3
USA TODAY/USA Hockey Magazine
RANK SCHOOL POINTS RECORD PREVIOUS
1 Notre Dame (16) 488 16-3-1 3
2 St. Cloud (17) 482 12-2-3 1
[b][u]3 Clarkson 450 15-3-1 4
4 Cornell (1) 394 11-2-0 5[/u][/b]
5 Denver 382 11-5-4 2
6 North Dakota 336 10-5-5 6
7 Minnesota State 288 14-6-0 7
8 Ohio State 262 12-4-4 9
9 Northeastern 236 11-5-2 8
10 Minnesota 204 12-9-1 10
11 Providence 178 12-7-1 11
12 Western Michigan140 11-8-1 12
13 Penn State 81 11-7-2 13
14 Boston College 70 10-7-2 14
15 Wisconsin 53 10-9-2 15
Others Receiving Votes: University of Minnesota Duluth, 18;
[b][u]Colgate University, 10[/u][/b]; University of Nebraska Omaha, 6; Canisius College, 2.
No new women's polls.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.
I guess one voter in each poll believes in win percentage über alles.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.
Casey probably felt bad voting for himself ;)
This is the latest in the season we have had at least one #1 vote since 2009 (5 in each poll on 1/19).
Quote from: pfibigerQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.
Casey probably felt bad voting for himself ;)
I wonder if Schafer voted for Casey?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: pfibigerQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84The January 2nd polls were released. Up to #4 in USA Today; Stayed #5 in USCHO.
We got a first place vote in USCHO. (?!)
No complaints about how we're playing, but there's no way to justify giving us a 1st place vote over a red-hot Clarkson team that beat us soundly in our own building.
Casey probably felt bad voting for himself ;)
I wonder if Schafer voted for Casey?
IIRC you can't vote for yourself.
#4 in USCHO with that #1 vote doggedly hanging on. We're closer to #2 than #5:
Quote from: Trotsky#4 in USCHO with that #1 vote doggedly hanging on. We're closer to #2 than #5:
With that logic we are also closer to unanimous #1 than current #5...
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 8, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Notre Dame (40) 18-3-1 988 2
2 St. Cloud State (6) 13-3-3 932 1
[b][u]3 Clarkson (3) 16-3-1 916 3
4 Cornell (1) 13-2-0 855 5[/u][/b]
5 Denver 12-6-4 773 4
6 Ohio State 14-4-4 707 8
7 North Dakota 11-6-5 690 6
8 Minnesota State 16-6-0 689 7
9 Minnesota 13-10-1 572 10
10 Northeastern 12-5-3 543 9
11 Providence 14-7-1 539 11
12 Western Michigan 11-8-1 440 12
13 Penn State 12-7-3 429 14
14 Bowling Green 12-6-6 244 19
15 Minnesota Duluth 9-9-3 228 16
16 Boston College 10-8-3 205 13
17 Omaha 10-9-1 187 18
18 Wisconsin 10-10-3 173 15
[b][u]19 Colgate 9-7-4 99 17[/u][/b]
20 Maine 11-7-1 78 NR
20 Miami 9-9-2 78 NR
Other Receiving Votes: UMass Lowell 66, [b][u]Harvard 16[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 12,
New Hampshire 11, [b][u]Union 8[/u][/b], Bemidji State 6, Canisius 6,
Colorado College 6, Niagara 3, Northern Michigan 1
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 8, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University Notre Dame 500 (26) 1 18-3-1
2 St. Cloud State Univer 462 (2) 2 13-3-3
[b][u]3 Clarkson University 450 (2) 3 16-3-1
4 Cornell University 416 (2) 4 13-2-0[/u][/b]
5 University of Denver 360 (2) 5 12-6-4
6 Minnesota State Univer 319 7 16-6-0
7 Ohio State University 307 8 14-4-4
8 University North Dakota 290 6 11-6-5
9 Northeastern University 205 9 12-5-3
10 Providence College 204 11 14-7-1
11 University of Minnesota 198 10 13-10-1
12 Western Michigan Univer 141 12 11-8-1
13 Penn State University 119 13 12-7-3
14 Bowling Green State 34 NR 12-6-6
15 University Minn Duluth 19 NR 9-9-3
Others receiving votes: Boston College 18, University of Wisconsin 12,
University of Nebraska Omaha 10, University of Maine 8,
UMass Lowell 6, [b][u]Colgate University 1, Harvard University 1[/u][/b].
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 13-3-3 .7632 4 .6147* 1
2 Notre Dame 58 18-3-1 .8409 2 .6139* 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 57 16-3-1 .8250 3 .6125* 3
4 Cornell 56 13-2-0 .8667 1 .6073* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 55 14-4-4 .7273 5t .5718 5
6 Denver 54 12-6-4 .6364 9 .5713 6
7 Minnesota State 53 16-6-0 .7273 5t .5650* 7
8 North Dakota 52 11-6-5 .6136 11t .5583* 8
9 Minnesota 51 13-10-1 .5625 17 .5561 9
10 Western Michigan50 11-8-1 .5750 15 .5547 10
11 Providence 49 14-7-1 .6591 8 .5540 11
12 Penn State 48 12-7-3 .6136 11t .5455 12
13t Northeastern 46 12-5-3 .6750 7 .5415 13
13t Omaha 46 10-9-1 .5250 23t .5406 14
15 Minnesota Duluth45 9-9-3 .5000 27t .5332 15
16 Miami 44 9-9-2 .5000 27t .5318 16
17 Bowling Green 43 12-6-6 .6250 10 .5305 17
18 Maine 42 11-7-1 .6053 14 .5251 18
19 Wisconsin 41 10-10-3 .5000 27t .5191 20
20 Boston College 40 10-8-3 .5476 20 .5238 19
21 Colorado College39 9-8-3 .5250 23t .5179 21
22 UMass Lowell 38 12-9-0 .5714 16 .5171 22
[b][u]23 Colgate 37 9-7-4 .5500 18t .5131 23
24 Harvard 36 7-6-1 .5357 22 .5121 24[/u][/b]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 8, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 21-1-0 150 1
2 Boston College 18-1-3 134 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 17-3-1 118 3
4 Colgate 17-3-1 108 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 15-5-2 88 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 8-6-1 61 5[/u][/b]
7 Providence 13-5-5 60 8
8 Ohio State 13-5-4 45 7
9 Robert Morris 12-4-3 28 9
10 Maine 14-6-3 22 NR
Other Receiving Votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence 9[/u][/b], Northeastern 2
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 21-1-0 .9545 1 .6892* 1
2 Boston College 33 18-1-3 .8864 3 .6319 2
[b][u]3 Colgate 32 17-3-1 .8333 4t .6297* 3
4 Clarkson 31 17-3-1 .8333 4t .6230* 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 30 15-5-2 .7273 6 .5806* 6
6 Ohio State 29 13-5-4 .6818 8 .5614 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 28 8-6-1 .5667 15 .5600 8[/u][/b]
8 Providence 27 13-5-5 .6739 9t .5595 9
9 Maine 26 14-6-3 .6739 9t .5523 10
10 Robert Morris 25 12-4-3 .7105 7 .5446 11
[b][u]11 St. Lawrence 24 10-7-3 .5750 14 .5440 12[/u][/b]
12 Northeastern 23 10-9-2 .5238 17 .5402 13
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac 22 12-10-2 .5417 16 .5289 14[/u][/b]
14 New Hampshire 21 9-8-5 .5227 18 .5183 15
[b][u]15 Harvard 20 8-5-1 .6071 11 .5162 16[/u][/b]
I'm sure Jim will come along and do the proper formatted thing, but we're #4 this week in both polls, this time sans any #1 votes.
Quote from: BeeeejI'm sure Jim will come along and do the proper formatted thing, but we're #4 this week in both polls, this time sans any #1 votes.
Indeed
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 15, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Notre Dame (44) 18-3-1 993 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson (5) 18-3-1 943 3[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State (1) 14-4-3 900 2
[b][u]4 Cornell 14-2-1 855 4[/u][/b]
5 Denver 12-6-4 786 5
6 Ohio State 15-5-4 716 6
7 North Dakota 12-6-6 707 7
8 Northeastern 14-5-3 616 10
9 Minnesota State 17-7-0 585 8
10 Providence 15-7-2 569 11
11 Western Michigan 12-9-1 511 12
12 Penn State 13-8-3 446 13
13 Minnesota 13-12-1 356 9
14 Minnesota Duluth 11-9-3 353 15
15 Omaha 12-9-1 309 17
16 Boston College 11-9-3 234 16
17 Bowling Green 12-8-6 160 14
18 Wisconsin 11-11-3 96 18
[b][u]19 Colgate 10-8-4 78 19[/u][/b]
20 Michigan 10-10-2 71 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Northern Michigan 70, [b][u]Harvard 56[/u][/b],
UMass Lowell 30, Bemidji State 17, Maine 14, Boston University 9,
Michigan Tech 7, Miami 7, Canisius 5, American International 1
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 15, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Notre Dame505 (29) 1 18-3-1
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 476 (3) 3 18-3-1[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State Univer 445 (2) 2 14-4-3
[b][u]4 Cornell University 409 4 14-2-1[/u][/b]
5 University of Denver 361 5 12-6-4
6 Ohio State University 327 7 15-5-4
7 University North Dakota 307 8 12-6-6
8 Minnesota State Univer 253 6 17-7-0
9 Northeastern University 238 9 14-5-3
10 Providence College 225 10 15-7-2
11 Western Michigan Univer 182 12 12-9-1
12 Penn State University 132 13 13-8-3
13 Univer Minnesota Duluth 76 15 11-9-3
14 University of Minnesota 68 11 13-12-1
15 Univer Nebraska Omaha 47 NR 12-9-1
Others receiving votes: Boston College 17, [b][u]Harvard University 5[/u][/b],
University of Michigan 3, Bowling Green State University 2, UMass Lowell 2.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Notre Dame 59 18-3-1 .8409 2t .6151* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 58 18-3-1 .8409 2t .6126* 2[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State 57 14-4-3 .7381 4 .6059 3
[b][u]4 Cornell 56 14-2-1 .8529 1 .5903* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 55 15-5-4 .7083 5t .5720 5
6 Denver 54 12-6-4 .6364 9 .5706 6
7 Western Michigan53 12-9-1 .5682 14t .5603 7
8 Minnesota State 52 17-7-0 .7083 5t .5579* 8
9 Providence 51 15-7-2 .6667 8 .5563 9
10 North Dakota 50 12-6-6 .6250 10 .5547* 10
11 Omaha 49 12-9-1 .5682 14t .5530 11
12 Penn State 48 13-8-3 .6042 11 .5491 12
13 Northeastern 47 14-5-3 .7045 7 .5453 13
14 Minnesota Duluth46 11-9-3 .5435 22t .5409 14
15t Minnesota 44 13-12-1 .5192 28 .5383 15
15t Michigan 44 10-10-2 .5000 29t .5288 16
17 Bowling Green 43 12-8-6 .5769 13 .5214 17
18 Miami 42 9-11-2 .4545 37t .5199 19
19 Boston College 41 11-9-3 .5435 22t .5209 18
20 Wisconsin 40 11-11-3 .5000 29t .5182 21
21 Northern Mich 39 13-10-3 .5577 18 .5183 20
[b][u]22 Harvard 38 8-6-3 .5588 17 .5130 22[/u][/b]
23 UMass Lowell 37 13-10-0 .5652 16 .5122 23
[u][b]24 Colgate 36 10-8-4 .5455 19t .5103 24[/b][/u]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 15, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 23-1-0 150 1
2 Boston College 19-2-3 122 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson 19-3-1 122 3
4 Colgate 19-3-1 116 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 17-6-2 76 5
[b][u]6 Cornell 11-6-1 75 6[/u][/b]
7 Ohio State 15-5-4 58 8
8 Providence 14-6-5 41 7
9 Maine 15-6-3 28 10
[b][u]10 St. Lawrence 12-7-3 17 NR[/u][/b]
Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 13, Northeastern 6, Mercyhurst 1
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 23-1-0 .9583 1 .6906* 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 33 19-3-1 .8478 4t .6304* 2
3 Clarkson 32 19-3-1 .8478 4t .6271* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 19-2-3 .8542 2 .6265 4
5 Minnesota 30 17-6-2 .7200 6 .5744 5
6 Ohio State 29 15-5-4 .7083 7 .5714 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 28 11-6-1 .6389 11 .5691* 8[/u][/b]
8 Maine 27 15-6-3 .6875 8 .5572 9
9 Providence 26 14-6-5 .6600 9 .5540 10
[b][u]10 St. Lawrence 25 12-7-3 .6136 13 .5506 11[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 24 12-10-2 .5417 15 .5503 12
12 Robert Morris 23 12-6-3 .6429 10 .5314 13
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac 22 13-11-2 .5385 16 .5209 14[/u][/b]
Here's the PWR and I'll add the polls after they come out tomorrow. Posters have talked on another thread that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find old PWRs, except maybe at the end of the season. That's one of the reasons I decided to do this every week.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t Notre Dame 58 19-4-1 .8125 2 .6055* 1
[b][u]1t Cornell 58 16-2-1 .8684 1 .5979* 2[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State 57 14-5-3 .7045 6 .5934 3
[b][u]4t Clarkson 56 18-4-2 .7917 3 .5867* 4[/u][/b]
4t Denver 56 14-6-4 .6667 8 .5798* 5
6 Ohio State 54 15-5-4 .7083 5 .5708 6
7 Minnesota State 53 18-7-0 .7200 4 .5678* 7
8 Minnesota Duluth52 13-9-3 .5800 13 .5491 8
9 Western Michigan51 13-10-1 .5625 17 .5487 9
10t Minnesota 49 15-12-1 .5536 21 .5462 10
10t Providence 49 16-8-2 .6538 9 .5449 11
12 North Dakota 48 12-8-6 .5769 15 .5442* 12
13 Northeastern 47 15-6-3 .6875 7 .5404 13
14 Omaha 46 12-11-1 .5208 27 .5401 14
15 Michigan 45 12-10-2 .5417 23t .5390 15
16 Penn State 44 13-10-3 .5577 20 .5361 16
[b][u]17 Harvard 43 9-6-4 .5789 14 .5249 17[/u][/b]
18 Northe Michigan 42 15-10-3 .5893 12 .5239 18
19 Bowling Green 41 14-8-6 .6071 11 .5236 19
20 Wisconsin 40 12-12-3 .5000 29t .5211 21
21t Boston College 39 11-9-3 .5435 22 .5228 20
21t Miami 39 9-11-2 .4545 40 .5194 22
23 Bemidji State 37 13-7-6 .6154 10 .5184 23
24 Maine 36 12-9-4 .5600 18t .5106 24
25 Boston Univer 35 11-11-2 .5000 29t .5104 25
26 Colorado College34 10-11-3 .4792 35 .5099 26
27 UMass Lowell 33 14-11-0 .5600 18t .5082 27
[b][u]28t Union 31 14-12-1 .5370 26 .5081 28
28t Colgate 31 10-10-4 .5000 29t .5017 29[/u][/b]
30 Michigan Tech 30 13-9-5 .5741 16 .5005 30
31 Canisius 29 12-10-2 .5417 23t .4995 31
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 24-1-1 .9423 1 .6762* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 21-3-1 .8600 4 .6313* 2
3 Colgate 32 22-3-1 .8654 3 .6301* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 31 22-2-3 .8704 2 .6292* 4
5 Ohio State 30 17-5-4 .7308 6 .5842* 5
[b][u]6 Cornell 29 12-6-2 .6500 11 .5624* 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 17-8-2 .6667 9t .5617 8
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 27 14-7-3 .6458 12 .5561 9[/u][/b]
9 Maine 26 16-7-3 .6731 8 .5537 10
10 Northeastern 25 13-10-3 .5577 15 .5513 11
11 Providence 24 14-7-6 .6296 14 .5453 12
12 Robert Morris 23 14-6-3 .6739 7 .5361 13
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac 22 13-11-2 .5385 16 .5190 14[/u][/b]
Quote from: Jim HylaHere's the PWR and I'll add the polls after they come out tomorrow. Posters have talked on another thread that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find old PWRs, except maybe at the end of the season.
Here (http://www.tbrw.info/?/tbrw_Indexes/final_PWR_Index.html) are the final PWR standings since 2001.
Polls should be interesting given that Clarkson, St. Cloud, and Notre Dame all lost this weekend.
I predict Cornell will be up to 3rd this week, coming very close to 2nd. Even as we're in the midst of one of our best seasons in recent memory, I think the team is still flying under the radar because our offense is so balanced that none of our guys show up near the top of national scoring statistics. Our defensive solidity is almost taken for granted. In contrast to some of Schafer's best teams, this year's success comes without our PP or PK being outstanding, yet we lead the nation in Scoring Margin--this suggests our even strength play has been great.
Quote from: imafrshmnI predict Cornell will be up to 3rd this week, coming very close to 2nd. Even as we're in the midst of one of our best seasons in recent memory, I think the team is still flying under the radar because our offense is so balanced that none of our guys show up near the top of national scoring statistics. Our defensive solidity is almost taken for granted. In contrast to some of Schafer's best teams, this year's success comes without our PP or PK being outstanding, yet we lead the nation in Scoring Margin--this suggests our even strength play has been great.
This seems about right to me, too. We might even stay in 4th though I think our trace first place votes will be back.
The bold is very important, I think -- we have the balance that Schafer's best teams did. We're going to need that when we play the best up tempo opponents to avoid the "sparring partner" trauma of those NC$$ losses like getting outshot by 20 at Wisco (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2006/box20060326.pdf) and at Minny (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2005/box20050327.pdf). This squad has the ability to push the opponent back deep into their zone. That takes a lot of pressure off the D and goalie.
the PP at times has little to show for some really good puck movement.. Sometimes that just starts to feed on itself. just a slight uptick in goals from the PP this time of year would be huge. Depth is something that really shows on the PK, the ability to roll out multiple lines of solid PK is big
I'll leave it to someone like Jim, who understands the ins & outs of copying & pasting poll results, to post the complete poll here.
But the men are #2 in this morning's USCHO poll, w/ 15 first-place votes(!)
Women are still at #6.
As usual, the USA Today poll is running later than the USCHO poll.
Closer to 1 than 3 (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/). Holy shit.
The solo voter has friends and no more flying under the radar.
Quote from: osorojoThe solo voter has friends and no more flying under the radar.
Yup, careful what you wish for.
During the Schafer Era we have only been 2nd or better this late twice: 03 and 05.
Worse yet, the pressure leaps to beat the team from the school where dying mothers refuse to send their sons.
Still at #4 in USA Today for 1/22... Go figure.
unless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.
Quote from: upprdeckunless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.
Way too early to make any statement like this. As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it." Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf (http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html).
FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:
.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion
.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion
Que sera, sera.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckunless we beat Harvard and Clarkson i doubt we get any higher and if we did run that table we probably would deserve it on record alone, as to whether we would be the best I doubt it until we actually played someone OC.
Way too early to make any statement like this. As Annie Savoy said, "it's a long season and you gotta trust it." Five more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf (http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html).
FWIW, PlayoffStatus.com current odds for Cornell:
.99 ECAC QF
.94 ECAC SF
.69 ECAC F
.41 ECAC Champion
.99 NC$$ Bid
.70 NC$$ QF
.43 NC$$ SF
.24 NC$$ F
.13 NC$$ Champion
Que sera, sera.
16 teams in the NC tourney. If each team had equal probability, P[NC] = 0.0625. So P[NC] = 0.13 is not that bad.
And, as Upprdeck points out, beating Harvard and/or Clarkson is necessary to hold our position. If we do, P[NC] might even increase.
We're not yet in a position to say we will beat any other team most nights, but we are in position to say realistically we could beat any other team on a given night. Given where we started out this season, I'm overjoyed that this is where we are.
Here's all, except for USA Women's, which doesn't come out till tomorrow, and I refuse to be bothered by that. Or, maybe I should say, I am bothered by that.
Anyone looking for PWR, look up a number of posts.
I'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Notre Dame (33) 19-4-1 981 1
[b][u]2 Cornell (15) 16-2-1 942 4
3 Clarkson (1) 18-4-2 873 2[/u][/b]
4 Denver (1) 14-6-4 847 5
5 St. Cloud State 14-5-3 804 3
6 Ohio State 15-5-4 748 6
7 Minnesota State 18-7-0 696 9
8 Northeastern 15-6-3 595 8
9 Minnesota Duluth 13-9-3 573 14
10 Providence 16-8-2 543 10
11 North Dakota 12-8-6 516 7
12 Western Michigan 13-10-1 460 11
13 Minnesota 15-12-1 439 13
14 Penn State 13-10-3 233 12
15 Bowling Green 14-8-6 227 17
16 Boston College 11-9-3 222 16
17 Michigan 12-10-2 204 20
18 Wisconsin 12-12-3 164 18
19 Omaha 12-11-1 142 15
20 Northern Michigan 15-10-3 101 NR
Other Receiving Votes: [b][u]Harvard 98[/u][/b], Bemidji State 33, UMass Lowell 17,
Maine 16, Boston University 9, Michigan Tech 9, [b][u]Union 5, Colgate 3[/u][/b]
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 22, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Notre Dame503 (27) 1 19-4-1
[b][u]2 Clarkson University 469 (7) 2 18-4-2[/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State Univer 430 3 14-5-3
[b][u]4 Cornell University 419 4 16-2-1[/u][/b]
5 University of Denver 374 5 14-6-4
6 Ohio State University 331 6 15-5-4
7 University North Dakota 292 7 12-8-6
8 Minnesota State Univer 231 8 18-7-0
9 Northeastern University 213 9 15-6-3
10 Providence College 199 10 16-8-2
11 Western Michigan Univer 160 11 13-10-1
12 Penn State University 150 12 13-10-3
13 Univer Minnesota Duluth 147 13 13-9-3
14 University of Minnesota 39 14 15-12-1
15 Univer Nebraska Omaha 35 15 12-11-1
Others receiving votes: Boston College 28, [b][u]Harvard University 22[/u][/b],
Bowling Green State University 21, UMass Lowell 13,
University of Michigan 3, University of Wisconsin 1.
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 22, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin(15) 24-1-1 150 1
[b][u]2 Colgate 22-3-1 121 4[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 22-2-3 119 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 21-3-1 119 2[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 17-5-4 90 7
[b][u]6 Cornell 12-6-2 71 6[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 17-8-2 63 5
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 14-7-3 32 10[/u][/b]
9 Maine 16-7-3 22 9
10 Providence 14-7-6 21 8
Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 9, Northeastern 5,
Bemidji State 2, Mercyhurst 1
Quote from: TrotskyFive more RS weeks plus the conference tournies means we could be seeded anywhere from #1 to golf (http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html).
An 81% chance at being a 1-seed? I'll take that!
Quote from: Jim HylaI'm not bothered much by the differences between the polls, except that we get 15 votes for first in USCHO, about 30%, and NONE in USA. What's up with that.
The USA Today results seem weird to me, as though they took the votes Friday night and the Saturday and Sunday results aren't factored in.
I see the table, I see Cornell is #2 in one poll. But, Lord, are we really the second-best time in the nation? Am I refusing to believe? Or do older alumni simply have more experience having their dreams crushed? Even the 2009 lacrosse title game makes me, ah, uncertain that we're a frozen four team let alone a potential national champion. Still, it's worth scoping out hotels for Lake Placid now.
And worth noting 3 of the 4 NCAA regional sites are driving distance.
East Regional, Webster Bank Arena – Bridgeport, Connecticut (Host: Fairfield and Yale)
Northeast Regional, DCU Center – Worcester, Massachusetts (Host: Holy Cross)
Midwest Regional, PPL Center – Allentown, Pennsylvania (Host: Penn State)
West Regional, Premier Center – Sioux Falls, South Dakota (Host: North Dakota)
St. Paul is a fabulous hockey town but it involves an airplane.
16 hrs from cornell.. one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here
Quote from: upprdeck16 hrs from cornell.. one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here
Agree, I'd probably drive, hate airports, but I'm also crazy and love to drive.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: upprdeck16 hrs from cornell.. one good days drive.. vs $250-$300 to fly from around here
Agree, I'd probably drive, hate airports, but I'm also crazy and love to drive.
Yet I bought our tickets last week on Southwest and plan to hook up with a high school friend who will probably extol Minnesota's superiority.
Pathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had
approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances. Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::
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Quote from: martyPathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances. Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::
When Minnesota made the championship game in 2014, that was in the first year of the Big Ten.
Quote from: adamwQuote from: martyPathetically Parenthetically , has anyone else here noticed the number of B1G schools in the top 20? Since their inception as a league they have had approximately exactly zero (0) Frozen Four appearances. Maybe this will be the year they break the ice.::smashfreak::
When Minnesota made the championship game in 2014, that was in the first year of the Big Ten.
That's what I get for relying on a 66 year old single core processor with defective memory sectors. ::worry::
Quote from: TrotskyAnywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls
i thought i wanted to go to allentown but if we do i assume penn state will make the tournament and join us there. see also, bc or bu in worcester/bridgeport. there are other new england schools, of course, but i don't think they'll bring a larger crowd than us.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyAnywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls
i thought i wanted to go to allentown but if we do i assume penn state will make the tournament and join us there. see also, bc or bu in worcester/bridgeport. there are other new england schools, of course, but i don't think they'll bring a larger crowd than us.
Right now PSU isn't even in the tournament,
FWIW, if North Dakota falls into the 4-band, someone from the east will go to Sioux Falls, because St. Cloud can't play NoDak in the first round. So just in case, go Sioux!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyAnywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls
i thought i wanted to go to allentown but if we do i assume penn state will make the tournament and join us there. see also, bc or bu in worcester/bridgeport. there are other new england schools, of course, but i don't think they'll bring a larger crowd than us.
Right now PSU isn't even in the tournament,
FWIW, if North Dakota falls into the 4-band, someone from the east will go to Sioux Falls, because St. Cloud can't play NoDak in the first round. So just in case, go Sioux!
Nazi Dakota is currently 12. Plenty of time for both they and Pedo State to drop out of the tourney altogether.
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Quote from: ugartei thought i wanted to go to allentown
Forget it, Jake.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ugartei thought i wanted to go to allentown but if we do i assume penn state will make the tournament and join us there. see also, bc or bu in worcester/bridgeport. there are other new england schools, of course, but i don't think they'll bring a larger crowd than us.
Right now PSU isn't even in the tournament
you haven't considered that we might get assigned to allentown, in which case they will definitely have made the tournament
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyAnywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls anywhere but Sioux Falls
i thought i wanted to go to allentown but if we do i assume penn state will make the tournament and join us there. see also, bc or bu in worcester/bridgeport. there are other new england schools, of course, but i don't think they'll bring a larger crowd than us.
Right now PSU isn't even in the tournament,
FWIW, if North Dakota falls into the 4-band, someone from the east will go to Sioux Falls, because St. Cloud can't play NoDak in the first round. So just in case, go Sioux!
Nazi Dakota is currently 12. Plenty of time for both they and Pedo State to drop out of the tourney altogether.
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"Plenty of time for both them and Penn State to drop out of the tourney."
Tee hee.
I decided to put up the entire PWR, so people could see how poor our SOS truly is, and possibly explain why we still have to prove something to fans, myself included, and media.
Our OOC opponents are underlined, but not bolded. The highest is BU just above Miami, who is the second from the bottom NCHC team.
5/12 of the ECAC teams are in the top half, but 3 of those are in the bottom 4 of the top half. 2 of the ECAC teams are in the bottom 4 of all teams.
We are a good team and if we can beat Clarkson sometime, Union at least once, and get to the ECAC finals, I'll be really happy and a believer. If not, I'll be happy and believe next year should be even better.
I'll put up the rest once the polls are released.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t Notre Dame 58 20-5-1 .7885 2t .6056* 1
[b][u][b]1t Cornell 58 18-2-1 .8810 1 .5995* 2[/b][/u][/b]
3 St. Cloud State 57 15-6-3 .6875 6 .5948 3
[b][u]4t Clarkson 56 19-4-3 .7885 2t .5805 4[/u][/b]
4t Denver 56 14-6-6 .6538 8t .5788 5
6 Ohio State 54 17-5-4 .7308 4t .5762 6
7 Minnesota State 53 19-7-0 .7308 4t .5710* 7
8 Omaha 52 14-11-1 .5577 15t .5487 8
9 Providence 51 17-8-3 .6607 7 .5482 9
10 Minnesota Duluth50 14-11-3 .5536 19t .5465 10
11t Minnesota 48 16-13-1 .5500 21 .5463 11
11t North Dakota 48 12-8-8 .5714 14 .5441* 12
13 Western Michigan47 13-12-1 .5192 28 .5393 13
14 Northeastern 46 15-7-4 .6538 8t .5346 14
15 Penn State 45 13-11-4 .5357 25 .5328 15
16 Michigan 44 12-12-2 .5000 31t .5310 16
17 Bowling Green 43 16-8-6 .6333 10 .5279 17
18 Northrn Michigan42 17-10-3 .6167 11 .5271 18
19 Wisconsin 41 13-12-4 .5172 30 .5246 19
20 Boston College 40 13-10-3 .5577 15t .5236 20
21 Maine 39 14-9-4 .5926 13 .5211 21
22 Bemidji State 38 14-8-6 .6071 12 .5197 22
[u]23 Boston Univer 37 13-11-2 .5385 22t .5192 23[/u]
[u]24t Miami 36 9-12-3 .4375 41 .5147 24[/u]
24t Colorado College36 11-11-4 .5000 31t .5136 25
26 UMass Lowell 34 15-12-0 .5556 17t .5110 26
[b][u]27 Harvard 33 9-8-4 .5238 27 .5094 28
28t Union 31 15-12-1 .5536 19t .5098 27[/u][/b]
28t Mercyhurst 31 13-10-4 .5556 17t .5009 29
[b][u]30 Colgate 30 11-11-4 .5000 31t .5000 30[/u][/b]
[u]31 Canisius 29 13-11-2 .5385 22t .4995 31[/u]
32t Air Force 27 13-11-3 .5370 24 .4941 32
32t Michigan Tech 27 13-11-5 .5345 26 .4917 33
[b][u]34 Dartmouth 26 9-11-2 .4545 36 .4908 34
35 Quinnipiac 25 9-12-4 .4400 39t .4875 35[/u][/b]
36 Michigan State 24 9-16-1 .3654 50 .4874 36
37 Massachusetts 23 11-14-1 .4423 38 .4826 37
[b][u]38 Yale 22 9-11-1 .4524 37 .4819 38[/u][/b]
39 Connecticut 21 11-16-2 .4138 46 .4803 39
40 Holy Cross 20 11-10-7 .5179 29 .4785 40
41t Robert Morris 19 11-13-2 .4615 34 .4778 41
[b][u][b]41t Princeton 19 7-10-3 .4250 43 .4778 42[/b][/u][/b]
43t Army 17 9-11-5 .4600 35 .4769 43
43t New Hampshire 17 9-13-4 .4231 44 .4721 44
45 RIT 15 10-13-2 .4400 39t .4695 45
46 Merrimack 14 7-15-4 .3462 54t .4694 46
[u]47 Niagara 13 11-15-2 .4286 42 .4693 47[/u]
48 Ferris State 12 12-17-1 .4167 45 .4674 48
49 Bentley 11 8-13-6 .4074 48 .4640 49
50 Amer Internat 10 10-15-3 .4107 47 .4597 50
[b][u]51 Brown 9 6-12-4 .3636 51 .4590 51[/u][/b]
[u]52 Alabama Hunts 8 9-17-2 .3571 53 .4559 52[/u]
53 Sacred Heart 7 7-14-4 .3600 52 .4541 53
54 Arizona State 6 7-16-5 .3393 56 .4532 54
55 Vermont 5 7-15-4 .3462 54t .4524 55
56 Alaska 4 9-15-2 .3846 49 .4505 56
[b][u]57 St. Lawrence 3 6-18-2 .2692 57 .4409 57
58 Rensselaer 2 4-19-4 .2222 59 .4306 58[/u][/b]
59 Lake Superior 1 6-20-4 .2667 58 .4273 59
60 Alaska Anchorage0 2-20-4 .1538 60 .3927 60
USCHO Poll is up - http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
I think it is dancing banana time again..........
::wow::
Quote from: KenPUSCHO Poll is up - http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
I think it is dancing banana time again..........
::wow::
Yeah, I don't know if we "deserve" it, but everyone else around us didn't sweep, so whaddaya gonna do? ::banana::
Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
Quote from: KenPUSCHO Poll is up - http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
I think it is dancing banana time again..........
::wow::
#1 in KRACH, too.::whistle::
Quote from: ajh258Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
This. FF is all that matters, not anything before then.
Between just Notre Dame and Cornell (the two teams getting almost all the #1 votes), I think Cornell has a good argument for being the #1 ranked team. We haven't beaten great teams, but we also haven't lost to bad teams. Can you really rank a team that's lost to Sacred Heart at home above Cornell at this point in the season?
Their position as #1 in the polls is definitely tenuous, but I think they have a good argument to be there at this point in time. They have done what teams with a weak strength-of-schedule need to do: have a winning percentage over 9% higher than everyone else.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: ajh258Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
This. FF is all that matters, not anything before then.
Winning the ECAC title also matters.
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: abmarksQuote from: ajh258Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
This. FF is all that matters, not anything before then.
Winning the ECAC title also matters.
And how bout winning 2 regional games? Snake bit since that great win over BC in '03!
Quote from: KGR11Between just Notre Dame and Cornell (the two teams getting almost all the #1 votes), I think Cornell has a good argument for being the #1 ranked team. We haven't beaten great teams, but we also haven't lost to bad teams. Can you really rank a team that's lost to Sacred Heart at home above Cornell at this point in the season?
This was the same week we tied
Ottawa at home, currently 12-12 against Canadian teams.
Holy fucking Christ, winning is better than losing.
Ottawa pulled the goalie and scored on one of its 13 shots.. much like the first Miami a totally dominating game we let get away..
I dont know if we are the best either.. Still I have seen NorthEastern play in person and we are better than them and they are 11th so if we are top 10 quality and have by far the best record who is to say? I think there are a dozen teams with probably a bit more elite skill guys on offense, but are those teams as well rounded every night which is the one thing you can say about this team so far, the Clarkson game being the one blemish to showing up every night and giving your self a shot to win.
Quote from: martyQuote from: CU2007Quote from: abmarksQuote from: ajh258Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
This. FF is all that matters, not anything before then.
Winning the ECAC title also matters.
And how bout winning 2 regional games? Snake bit since that great win over BC in '03!
Winning the Frozen Four kinda guarantees we win two regional games right?
@CU2007- If we win the national title, you'd actually be upset if we lost the ECAC title along the way?
Let's keep our eyes on the prize, people.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: martyQuote from: CU2007Quote from: abmarksQuote from: ajh258Never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.
There's still plenty of hockey to be played before getting too comfortable. The ultimate goals is win the Frozen 4, not win a USCHO poll (which we all know is BS and pointless).
This. FF is all that matters, not anything before then.
Winning the ECAC title also matters.
And how bout winning 2 regional games? Snake bit since that great win over BC in '03!
Winning the Frozen Four kinda guarantees we win two regional games right?
@CU2007- If we win the national title, you'd actually be upset if we lost the ECAC title along the way?
Let's keep our eyes on the prize, people.
Not at all, but if we don't - it would be nice to hang an ECAC championship banner. My point is that both matter, not that a national championship wouldn't make up for losing in the ECACs
Up from #4 to #1 in USA Hockey/USA Today Poll
www.usahockey.com/college
The polls are nice eye candy, but it's all about the Pairwise for me.
Quote from: upprdeckOttawa pulled the goalie and scored on one of its 13 shots.. much like the first Miami a totally dominating game we let get away.
Until Ottawa is accepted into Division I they are irrelevant.
QuoteI dont know if we are the best either.. Still I have seen NorthEastern play in person and we are better than them and they are 11th so if we are top 10 quality and have by far the best record who is to say? I think there are a dozen teams with probably a bit more elite skill guys on offense, but are those teams as well rounded every night which is the one thing you can say about this team so far, the Clarkson game being the one blemish to showing up every night and giving your self a shot to win.
Worth noting that a week ago in Potsdam, Harvard and Dartmouth put nine past Kielly into the Clarkson net. They managed one this weekend playing a not-very-heathy Cornell team at home.
Syracuse.com article
http://www.syracuse.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/for_the_first_time_in_almost_15_years_cornell_sits_atop_college_hockey_poll.html#incart_river_home
14850.com:
http://www.14850.com/01295929-cornell-1801-poll/
Quote from: scoop85The polls are nice eye candy, but it's all about the Pairwise for me.
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Well I'm going to enjoy it for now.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85The polls are nice eye candy, but it's all about the Pairwise for me.
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Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85The polls are nice eye candy, but it's all about the Pairwise for me.
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I for one, am very happy to look over at these ceramic dalmatians we found for cheap at the Strength of Schedule flea market. I'll polish them every day this week.
Quote from: RichHI for one, am very happy to look over at these ceramic dalmatians we found for cheap at the Strength of Schedule flea market. I'll polish them every day this week.
I'll give you my empty totemic fetish when you pry it from my cold, dead paws.
Okay here they are, even if I'm a bit skeptical.
I'll even restate my objectives.
"We are a good team and if we can beat Clarkson sometime, Union at least once, and get to the ECAC finals, I'll be really happy and a believer. If not, I'll be happy and believe next year should be even better."
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 29, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Cornell (32) 18-2-1 978 2[/u][/b]
2 Notre Dame (17) 20-5-1 957 1
[b][u]3 Clarkson 19-4-3 881 3[/u][/b]
4 Denver (1) 14-6-6 831 4
5 Ohio State 17-5-4 787 6
6 St. Cloud State 15-6-3 779 5
7 Minnesota State 19-7-0 735 7
8 Providence 17-8-3 610 10
9 Minnesota Duluth 14-11-3 545 9
10 North Dakota 12-8-8 535 11
11 Northeastern 15-7-4 529 8
12 Minnesota 16-13-1 451 13
13 Omaha 14-11-1 322 19
14 Bowling Green 16-8-6 310 15
15 Western Michigan 13-12-1 261 12
16 Boston College 13-10-3 219 16
17 Penn State 13-11-4 216 14
18 Wisconsin 13-12-4 190 18
19 Northern Michigan 17-10-3 167 20
20 Michigan 12-12-2 70 17
Other Receiving Votes: Maine 44, Bemidji State 23, Boston University 20,
UMass Lowell 19, [b][u]Harvard 9, Union 9[/u][/b], Colorado College 1, Mercyhurst 1, [b]Colgate 1[/b]
USA TODAY/USA Hockey Magazine
RANK SCHOOL POINTS RECORD PREVIOUS
[b][u]1 Cornell (20) 496 18-2-1 4[/u][/b]
2 Notre Dame (14) 489 20-5-1 1
[b][u][b]3 Clarkson 425 19-4-3 2[/b][/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State 381 15-6-3 3
5 Denver 369 14-6-6 5
6 Ohio State 359 17-5-4 6
7 Minnesota State 332 19-7-0 8
8 Providence 258 17-8-3 10
9 Northeastern 197 15-7-4 9
10 Minnesota Duluth193 14-11-3 13
11 North Dakota 191 12-8-8 7
12 Minnesota 142 16-13-1 14
13 Omaha 92 14-11-1 15
14 Bowling Green 62 16-8-6 NR
15 Boston College 30 13-10-3 NR
Others Receiving Votes: Western Michigan University, 26;
Penn State University, 17; University of Wisconsin, 7;
UMass Lowell, 5; [b][u]Union College, 5[/u][/b];
Northern Michigan University, 3; University of Michigan, 1
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 29, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 26-1-1 150 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 23-3-1 125 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 24-2-3 122 3
[b][u][b]4 Colgate 23-4-1 112 2
5 Cornell 13-7-2 83 6[/b][/u][/b]
6 Ohio State 17-7-4 76 5
7 Minnesota 19-8-2 65 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 14-9-3 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Providence 14-9-6 22 10
10 Robert Morris 15-6-4 19 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Maine 7, Mercyhurst 3, Northeastern 1
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 26-1-1 .9464 1 .6725* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 23-3-1 .8704 3 .6433* 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 24-2-3 .8793 2 .6343 3
[b][u]4 Colgate 31 23-4-1 .8393 5 .6239* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 17-7-4 .6786 8 .5689 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 29 13-7-2 .6364 10 .5646* 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 19-8-2 .6897 6 .5645 8
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 27 14-9-3 .5962 13 .5452 9[/u][/b]
9 Providence 26 14-9-6 .5862 14 .5379 10
10 Northeastern 25 13-12-3 .5179 16 .5377 11
11 Maine 24 16-9-3 .6250 11t .5344 12
12 Robert Morris 23 15-6-4 .6800 7 .5316 13
I'm not following what there is to be skeptical about. PWR is math. The polls are just a bunch of old white dudes' opinions like ours'.
If you doubt the metrics capture an underlying objective value, well, yeah -- I'm sure they don't, but that loose coupling of the indicator and the indicated is always with us; it didn't just pop into being when we got to be #1.
You are what your record says you are, and right now, despite a lousy SOS on the PWR, despite EZAC bias from the polls, we are #1. By definition, that means... we are #1.
C'est une pipe.
Quote from: Jim HylaIf not, I'll be happy and believe next year should be even better.
One objection, not to you but to the idea as a whole.
We all know how rare this is, to be very good, to have everything going right, and not to have some immovable Dread Obstacle like RPI '85 or Harvard '89 in our path. There was no last year; there will be no next year. Time has stopped. This year hangs as a motionless pendulum in empty space. It's the whole universe from now until the Summer.
QuoteGreat moments are born from great opportunity, and that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight.
This doesn't happen often. I'm almost 55 and I don't exercise. I don't have time to f-ck around anymore.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaIf not, I'll be happy and believe next year should be even better.
One objection, not to you but to the idea as a whole.
We all know how rare this is, to be very good, to have everything going right, and not to have some immovable Dread Obstacle like RPI '85 or Harvard '89 in our path. There was no last year; there will be no next year. Time has stopped. This year hangs as a motionless pendulum in empty space. It's the whole universe from now until the Summer.
QuoteGreat moments are born from great opportunity, and that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight.
This doesn't happen often. I'm almost 55 and I don't exercise. I don't have time to f-ck around anymore.
+1!!!!
Quote from: TrotskyI'm not following what there is to be skeptical about. PWR is math. The polls are just a bunch of old white dudes' opinions like ours'.
Yeah, but what is math? Our #1 ranking says that we are doing almost as well as possible against a mediocre slate. That doesn't make it *not* a mediocre slate and it isn't nuts to be skeptical. Blind obedience to the machines is the crazy path here when we know the inputs and are identifying the issues with them. It's not like we're mumbling about intangibles.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaIf not, I'll be happy and believe next year should be even better.
One objection, not to you but to the idea as a whole.
We all know how rare this is, to be very good, to have everything going right, and not to have some immovable Dread Obstacle like RPI '85 or Harvard '89 in our path. There was no last year; there will be no next year. Time has stopped. This year hangs as a motionless pendulum in empty space. It's the whole universe from now until the Summer.
QuoteGreat moments are born from great opportunity, and that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight.
This doesn't happen often. I'm almost 55 and I don't exercise. I don't have time to f-ck around anymore.
Well, I too am almost 55 and just got off the elliptical :-P. But I'm also a cancer survivor who can stand to lose a few pounds, and I'd like to see Cornell win a team championship in an NCAA sport (sorry, polo team) before I kick. I was there in Foxboro in 2009 for the game that shall not be named, and this year's team at least gives us a chance to dream. There are some very good teams out there, but I don't see anything like Maine with Paul Kariya on the horizon.
We have a solid and deep team, and hopefully will get Green and Malott back soon—I thought we were running out of gas at the end of the Dartmouth game. If we can maintain our health and stay aggressive on offense, I think we can be in the mix.
If we don't get Green back (no reason to think we wouldn't, as far as I know), we are in huge trouble. Mallott is a great player, but we are way deeper at forward.
Re: rankings, expectations, etc.: yeah, Cornell isn't the best team in the country. The team with the #1 ranking, only twenty games into the season, rarely is. In addition to the small sample size it has to work with, the PWR is imperfect in how it doesn't take into account score differential, or lucky bounces, or injuries. And even if we were the best team going into the NCAAs, our chances of winning it all would be, what, 1-in-8?
What our amazing start affords us is an opportunity--we have positioned ourselves to make a run, in the ECAC and in the NCAA. That's all you can ask for going into a single-elimination hockey tournament. Expecting anything more than that is just setting yourself up to be disappointed. In the end, it will be the Friday and Saturday nights at Lynah, not any number of championships, that we look back on most fondly.
Quote from: scoop85Well, I too am almost 55 and just got off the elliptical
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p04p13l6.jpg)
Quote"Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records" / "Well I do.
So fuck him and fuck you too."
;-)
Do we still have to put emoticons on everything?
Quote from: BearLoverIn the end, it will be the Friday and Saturday nights at Lynah, not any number of championships, that we look back on most fondly.
Actually, most of the Friday and Saturday nights at Lynah moosh into each other over time. (Except for, off the top of my head, vs. Harvard in fall '95; vs. Vermont in fall '96; vs. Princeton in winter '94; etc.) It's the nights at
other schools' rinks that are burned into my head. Many of my favorite memories from days on the Hill burnish following the team on the road and the resultant hijinks to a nostalgic sheen.
Some perspective:
Prior #1s in USCHO poll closest to 29 Jan, and their fate:
Year Team 1/29ish Final NC$$ Stretch[hr]2018 [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color] 18-2-1
2017 Minn-Duluth 17-5-4 28- 7-7 2 11-2-3
2016 Quinnipiac 20-1-5 32- 4-7 2 12-3-2
2015 North Dakota 18-5-2 29-10-3 SF 11-5-1
2014 Minnesota 18-2-4 28- 7-6 2 10-5-2
2013 Minnesota 18-4-4 26- 9-5 1R 11-5-1
2012 Minn-Duluth 17-5-4 25-10-6 QF 8-5-2
2011 Boston College 18-6-0 30- 8-1 1R 12-2-1
2010 Miami 18-4-6 29- 8-7 SF 11-4-1
2009 Notre Dame 19-3-3 31- 6-3 1R 12-3-0
2008 Miami 25-3-0 33- 8-1 QF 8-5-1
2007 New Hampshire 19-4-1 26-11-2 1R 7-7-1
All 11 made the tournament.
7 won at least one round.
5 made the Frozen Four.
3 were runners-up
Zero won the national title.
by that math odds say it has to happen some time.
Quote from: upprdeckby that math odds say it has to happen some time.
Odds don't work that way. The law of large numbers simply says it's
extremely likely to happen sometime.
STFU and enjoy the damn ride, all of you!
::drive::
Quote from: TrotskyZero won the national title.
How about #1s at the start of the NCAAs?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyZero won the national title.
How about #1s at the start of the NCAAs?
How about #1s at the end of the NCAAs?
I genuinely love it when Trotsky trots the numbers out with an unspoken "you're grounded!"
So much opinioneering out there, I'm hella thankful for the hard-numbers grounding. And it comes for free.
Quote from: TrotskySome perspective:
Prior #1s in USCHO poll closest to 29 Jan, and their fate:
Year Team 1/29ish Final NC$$ Stretch[hr]2018 [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color] 18-2-1
2017 Minn-Duluth 17-5-4 28- 7-7 2 11-2-3
2016 Quinnipiac 20-1-5 32- 4-7 2 12-3-2
2015 North Dakota 18-5-2 29-10-3 SF 11-5-1
2014 Minnesota 18-2-4 28- 7-6 2 10-5-2
2013 Minnesota 18-4-4 26- 9-5 1R 11-5-1
2012 Minn-Duluth 17-5-4 25-10-6 QF 8-5-2
2011 Boston College 18-6-0 30- 8-1 1R 12-2-1
2010 Miami 18-4-6 29- 8-7 SF 11-4-1
2009 Notre Dame 19-3-3 31- 6-3 1R 12-3-0
2008 Miami 25-3-0 33- 8-1 QF 8-5-1
2007 New Hampshire 19-4-1 26-11-2 1R 7-7-1
All 11 made the tournament.
7 won at least one round.
5 made the Frozen Four.
3 were runners-up
Zero won the national title.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: upprdeckby that math odds say it has to happen some time.
Odds don't work that way. The law of large numbers simply says it's extremely likely to happen sometime.
thats why mathematicians dont gamble because they dont understand how odds work.
I'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyZero won the national title.
How about #1s at the start of the NCAAs?
Since the 16-team tournament began in 2003, the #1 overall seed has won the championship four times: Wisconsin in 2006 (screw you, Brian Elliott!), BU in 2009, BC in 2012, and Denver last year. That may not correspond with #1 in the polls at the start of the NCAAs, but who cares what humans think anyway.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: upprdeckby that math odds say it has to happen some time.
Odds don't work that way. The law of large numbers simply says it's extremely likely to happen sometime.
he knoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooows
Quote from: rediceI'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Speaking of... isn't it about time the band did another one? We need to immortalize Knights of Cydonia before The Kids (TM) start playing Arctic Monkeys, shoe gaze or some such shit.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceI'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Speaking of... isn't it about time the band did another one? We need to immortalize Knights of Cydonia before The Kids (TM) start playing Arctic Monkeys, shoe gaze or some such shit.
We can't get them to stop playing Macho Man. Why should we worry about them not playing something from their generation?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceI'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Speaking of... isn't it about time the band did another one? We need to immortalize Knights of Cydonia before The Kids (TM) start playing Arctic Monkeys, shoe gaze or some such shit.
We can't get them to stop playing Macho Man. Why should we worry about them not playing something from their generation?
Arctic Monkeys and shoe gaze are from way before the current brats' generation. By definition, if we have heard of anything they are listening to it's the equivalent of the Osmonds.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceI'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Speaking of... isn't it about time the band did another one? We need to immortalize Knights of Cydonia before The Kids (TM) start playing Arctic Monkeys, shoe gaze or some such shit.
We can't get them to stop playing Macho Man. Why should we worry about them not playing something from their generation?
Don't hold your breath. Apparently that's Galajda's song now. He was all smiles when the alumni band played it at Yale.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: rediceI'm going to just enjoy this week.... Knowing, full well, that things could be different as soon as next week. So, pardon me while I put my "Live at Lynah" CD back on & enjoy the ride... I'll check back next week for a re-charge, thank you......
Speaking of... isn't it about time the band did another one? We need to immortalize Knights of Cydonia before The Kids (TM) start playing Arctic Monkeys, shoe gaze or some such shit.
We can't get them to stop playing Macho Man. Why should we worry about them not playing something from their generation?
Don't hold your breath. Apparently that's Galajda's song now. He was all smiles when the alumni band played it at Yale.
Great. Just f-in wonderful. ::help::
Hey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage. If he's happy, we're happy.
Quote from: TrotskyHey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage. If he's happy, we're happy.
I'm unfamiliar with that song. Can you direct us to its lyrics?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyHey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage. If he's happy, we're happy.
I'm unfamiliar with that song. Can you direct us to its lyrics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65QFlXHyBw
Am I the only one who likes Macho Man MORE because everyone else is ticked off by it? (Also, I was at that SLU game so I'm allowed to do the mocking gestures.)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyHey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage. If he's happy, we're happy.
I'm unfamiliar with that song. Can you direct us to its lyrics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65QFlXHyBw
That video is about "Lady of Spain," with which I'm familiar. But that's not what you said. The song you named sounds more interesting.
But thanks anyway, as it's been a long time since I've watched
Slap Shot. Excellent memory you have there.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyHey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage. If he's happy, we're happy.
I'm unfamiliar with that song. Can you direct us to its lyrics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65QFlXHyBw
That video is about "Lady of Spain," with which I'm familiar. But that's not what you said. The song you named sounds more interesting.
But thanks anyway, as it's been a long time since I've watched Slap Shot. Excellent memory you have there.
I've always assumed his reaction indicates a scene that was cut. Yes, he's been in enough rinks to hate the sound of the synthesized barrel organ, but even so, Reg seems to be recalling something very specific.
Like everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.
One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?
Quote from: SwampyLike everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.
One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?
IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP. Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.
Edit: It's an even scarier picture when you only look at conference games. The PP% in ECAC games is only 11.7%, ranking #11 out of 12. Eek. But the ECAC PK% is 90%, the best in league play.
Not to mention this team hasn't scored more than 3 goals in a game in nearly a month, but they're still hanging in the Top-10 for GPG.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: SwampyLike everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.
One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?
IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP. Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.
Malott spent a decent amount of time on the PP before he got hurt, no? Could account for at least some of the difference.
Watching most of the games, I've really liked how our PP has looked. This is very subjective, but I think we're getting better chances than the results suggest. Unlike some of our recent years, where our PP has looked ugly.
It seems this Cornell hockey team succeeds because of a team and teamwork rather than being borne upon the backs of a few superstars. This conflicts with current team sports wisdom, or at least current sports reporting, where superstars are the cause success and failure. This attitude is reflected in (or a partner to) the current opinion that the efforts of a few political superstars is responsible for the success or failure of government.
Quote from: DafatoneWatching most of the games, I've really liked how our PP has looked. This is very subjective, but I think we're getting better chances than the results suggest. Unlike some of our recent years, where our PP has looked ugly.
Me too. We cycle low well, we take advantage of guys actually breaking to the net.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: RichHQuote from: SwampyLike everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.
One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?
IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP. Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.
Malott spent a decent amount of time on the PP before he got hurt, no? Could account for at least some of the difference.
Didn't he just get hurt during the Colgate weekend?
from the uscho stub recap. how can this be right?
Quote from: ugartefrom the uscho stub recap. how can this be right?
My guess: in 2003 they were #1 in one poll and #2 in the other, and in the 60s and 70s they didn't have polls. No idea if either of those things are right. Actually, the most likely is that USCHO is incorrect.
They didn't get all the first place votes in 2003. I guess they do not recognize the polls from the Archaic Age.
On 2/5 we drop to 3 in USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/), holding 4 first place votes. Clarkson drops all the way to 7. 1. Notre Dame
2. Denver
3. [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color]
4. St. Cloud
5. Mankato
6. Ohio State
7. Clarkson
8. North Dakota
9. Providence
10. Duluth
11. Northeastern
12. Minnesota
13. UNO
14. Bowling Green
15. Western Michigan
16. Penn State
Quote from: TrotskyOn 2/5 we drop to 3 in USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/), holding 4 first place votes. Clarkson drops all the way to 7. 1. Notre Dame
2. Denver
3. [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color]
4. St. Cloud
5. Mankato
6. Ohio State
7. Clarkson
8. North Dakota
9. Providence
10. Duluth
11. Northeastern
12. Minnesota
13. UNO
14. Bowling Green
15. Western Michigan
16. Penn State
... and drop to #4 in USA Today (Clarkson drops to #7 in that poll as well.)
http://www.usahockey.com/college
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 5, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Notre Dame (36) 21-5-2 982 2
2 Denver (8) 16-6-6 927 4
[b][u]3 Cornell (4) 19-3-1 896 1[/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State (2) 17-6-3 867 6
5 Minnesota State 21-7-0 779 7
6 Ohio State 18-6-4 757 5
[b][u]7 Clarkson 19-6-3 735 3[/u][/b]
8 North Dakota 12-8-8 606 10
9 Providence 17-9-4 567 8
10 Minnesota Duluth 14-13-3 501 9
11 Northeastern 15-7-5 494 11
12 Minnesota 16-13-1 491 12
13 Omaha 14-13-1 366 13
14 Bowling Green 17-9-6 308 14
15 Western Michigan 14-13-1 303 15
16 Penn State 13-12-5 202 17
17 Wisconsin 14-13-4 194 18
18 Boston College 13-11-3 138 16
19 Michigan 13-13-2 128 20
20 Northern Michigan 18-11-3 127 19
Other Receiving Votes: Boston University 44, Maine 37,
UMass Lowell 21, [b][u]Harvard 13, Union 9[/u][/b], Bemidji State 4,
Mercyhurst 2, Canisius 1, [b][u]Quinnipiac 1[/u][/b]
Men's Poll
(2017-18 Season, Week #18 - Feb. 5)
Rank Team Last Week Record Weeks in Poll
1 University of Notre Dame, 498 (26) 2 21-5-2 18
2 University of Denver, 460 (6) 5 16-6-6 18
3 St. Cloud State University,433 4 17-6-3 18
[b][u]4 Cornell University, 432 (2) 1 19-3-1 12[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State University,356 7 21-7-0 17
6 Ohio State University, 347 6 18-6-4 9
[b][u]7 Clarkson University, 332 3 19-6-3 16[/u][/b]
8 University of North Dakota,258 11 12-8-8 18
9 University of Minnesota, 204 12 16-13-1 18
10 Providence College, 200 8 117-9-4 18
11 Northeastern University, 179 9 15-7-5 17
12 UniversityMinnesota Duluth 144 10 14-13-3 15
13 University Nebraska Omaha 97 13 14-13-1 4
14 Western Michigan University55 - 14-13-1 11
15 Bowling Green State Univer 41 14 17-9-6 3
Others Receiving Votes: Penn State University, 16; University of Michigan, 9;
University of Wisconsin, 9; Boston College, 7; UMass Lowell, 3.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t Notre Dame 58 21-5-2 .7857 2 .6080* 1
1t St. Cloud State 58 17-6-3 .7115 6 .6007 2
1t Denver 58 16-6-6 .6786 7 .5860 3
[b][u]4 Cornell 56 19-3-1 .8478 1 .5857* 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State 55 21-7-0 .7500 3 .5728* 5
6 Ohio State 54 18-6-4 .7143 5 .5699 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 19-6-3 .7321 4 .5665 7[/u][/b]
8 North Dakota 51 12-8-8 .5714 13 .5437* 9
9t Minnesota 50 16-13-1 .5500 19t .5459 8
9t Omaha 50 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5405 10
9t Minnesota Duluth50 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5386 11
12 Providence 48 17-9-4 .6333 9 .5380 12
13 Western Michigan47 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5380 13
14 Northeastern 46 15-7-5 .6481 8 .5317 14
15 Michigan 45 13-13-2 .5000 31t .5282 15
16 Penn State 44 13-12-5 .5167 27t .5281 16
17 Wisconsin 43 14-13-4 .5161 30 .5266 17
18 Bowling Green 42 17-9-6 .6250 10 .5248 18
19 North Michigan 41 18-11-3 .6094 11 .5246 19
20 Boston Univer 40 14-11-2 .5556 15t .5215 20
21 Boston College 39 13-11-3 .5370 22 .5206 21
22 Maine 38 15-10-4 .5862 12 .5177 22
[b][u]23 Harvard 37 10-8-4 .5455 21 .5174 23[/u][/b]
24 Colorado College36 11-11-4 .5000 31t .5144 24
[b][u]25t Union 34 16-13-1 .5500 19t .5118 25[/u][/b]
25t UMass Lowell 34 15-12-0 .5556 15t .5115 26
25t Miami 34 10-13-3 .4423 42 .5112 27
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 5, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Clarkson (7) 26-3-1 141 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (5) 26-3-1 136 1
3 Boston College (3) 24-2-3 124 3
[b][u]4 Colgate 25-4-1 98 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 19-7-4 95 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 14-7-3 69 5[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 20-8-3 65 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 16-9-3 47 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 15-6-4 22 10
9 Maine 17-9-4 22 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Providence 3, Mercyhurst 2, Minnesota Duluth 1
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Click on a column header to sort by that column.
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 26-3-1 .8833 1t .6433* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 26-3-1 .8833 1t .6396* 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 24-2-3 .8793 3 .6319 3
[b][u]4 Colgate 31 25-4-1 .8500 5 .6242* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 19-7-4 .7000 6 .5850 5
6 Minnesota 29 20-8-3 .6935 8 .5648 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 28 14-7-3 .6458 11 .5606* 8
8 St. Lawrence 27 16-9-3 .6250 13 .5485 9[/u][/b]
9 Maine 26 17-9-4 .6333 12 .5395 10
10 Robert Morris 25 15-6-4 .6800 9 .5352 11
11 Northeastern 24 13-13-3 .5000 17t .5304 12
12 Providence 23 14-11-6 .5484 14 .5243 13
13 New Hampshire 22 13-11-7 .5323 16 .5232 14
14 Minnesota Duluth21 12-13-3 .4821 21 .5197 16
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 20 15-13-2 .5333 15 .5151 17[/u][/b]
Here's the PWR, I'll put the polls up tomorrow.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 19-6-3 .7321 4 .6064 1
2 Denver 58 16-6-6 .6786 7 .5859 3
3 Notre Dame 57 22-6-2 .7667 2t .6020* 2
[b][u]4 Cornell 56 20-3-2 .8400 1 .5841* 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State 55 23-7-0 .7667 2t .5781* 5
6 Ohio State 54 19-7-4 .7000 6 .5714 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 19-6-5 .7167 5 .5621 7[/u][/b]
8 Providence 51 18-9-4 .6452 8 .5427 9
9t Minnesota 50 18-13-1 .5781 13t .5536 8
9t Omaha 50 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5410 10
9t Minnesota Duluth50 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5385 11
12 North Dakota 48 13-9-8 .5667 16t .5379* 12
13 Western Michigan47 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5375 13
14 Michigan 46 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5309 14
15 Northeastern 45 16-8-5 .6379 9 .5302 15
16 North Michigan 44 20-11-3 .6324 10 .5282 16
17 Penn State 43 13-12-5 .5167 27t .5280 17
18 Bowling Green 42 17-9-6 .6250 11 .5247 18
19 Boston Univer 41 15-11-3 .5690 15 .5243 19
20 Wisconsin 40 14-15-4 .4848 33 .5198 21
21 Boston College 39 14-12-3 .5345 21 .5202 20
[b][u]22t Union 37 18-13-1 .5781 13t .5180 22[/u][/b]
22t Colorado College37 12-12-4 .5000 30t .5169 23
24 Maine 36 15-11-4 .5667 16t .5146 24
25 UMass Lowell 35 16-14-0 .5333 22t .5083 25
[b][u]26t Harvard 34 10-10-4 .5000 30t .5067 26[/u][/b]
26t Miami 34 10-15-3 .4107 45 .5063 27
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 34 27-3-2 .8750 1 .6373* 1
2 Boston College 33 25-3-3 .8548 5 .6271 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 32 27-4-1 .8594 3t .6255* 3
4 Colgate 31 27-4-1 .8594 3t .6255* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 20-8-4 .6875 8t .5767 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 29 17-7-3 .6852 10 .5666* 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 20-8-3 .6935 7 .5644 8
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 27 17-9-4 .6333 12 .5499 9[/u][/b]
9 Maine 26 17-9-5 .6290 13 .5390 10
10 Robert Morris 25 17-6-4 .7037 6 .5387 11
11 Northeastern 24 14-14-3 .5000 17t .5322 12
12 New Hampshire 23 14-11-7 .5469 14t .5318 13
13 Providence 22 14-11-7 .5469 14t .5258 14
14 Minnesota Duluth21 12-14-4 .4667 21 .5183 16
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 20 15-14-3 .5156 16 .5140 18[/u][/b]
Cornell and St. Cloud swap spots. Men drop to #4 still receiving 7 first place votes. Not a whole lot of spread in the top four. Quickly drops off in a tight race for #5 and #6, then the rest of the field.
Women are up to #5.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 12, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Notre Dame (15) 22-6-2 945 1
2 Denver (15) 16-6-6 933 2
3 St. Cloud State (13) 19-6-3 905 4
[b][u]4 Cornell (7) 20-3-2 889 3[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State 23-7-0 796 5
6 Ohio State 19-7-4 790 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 19-6-5 695 7[/u][/b]
8 Providence 18-9-4 625 9
9 North Dakota 13-9-8 557 8
10 Minnesota 18-13-1 546 12
11 Minnesota Duluth 14-13-3 499 10
12 Northeastern 16-8-5 450 11
13 Omaha 14-13-1 374 13
14 Bowling Green 17-9-6 304 14
15 Western Michigan 14-13-1 289 15
16 Penn State 13-12-5 200 16
17 Northern Michigan 20-11-3 181 20
18 Michigan 14-13-3 149 19
19 Boston College 14-12-3 120 18
20 Boston University 15-11-3 82 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Wisconsin 53, [b][u]Union 49[/u][/b], Maine 21, UMass Lowell 17,
Mercyhurst 15, [b][u]Harvard 7[/u][/b], Bemidji State 5, Colorado College 4
I'll add USA whenever it gets easily posted.
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 12, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (12) 27-3-2 146 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson (2) 27-4-1 131 1
3 Colgate (1) 27-4-1 117 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 25-3-3 116 3
[b][u]5 Cornell 17-7-3 80 6[/u][/b]
6 Ohio State 20-8-4 79 5
7 Minnesota 20-8-3 66 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 17-9-4 45 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 17-6-4 22 9
Other Receiving Votes: Providence 7, New Hampshire 2,
Minnesota Duluth 2, Mercyhurst 1
Stay at #4 in USA Today poll...
Quote from: jeff '84Stay at #4 in USA Today poll...
It's out? I don't see it.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84Stay at #4 in USA Today poll...
It's out? I don't see it.
Maybe no article, but it was posted before noon.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/EDIT: I'm an idiot. you guys were talking USA Today...
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: jeff '84Stay at #4 in USA Today poll...
It's out? I don't see it.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 12, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University Notre Dame 490 (14) 1 22-6-2
2 St. Cloud State Univer 469 (13) 3 19-6-3
3 University of Denver 463 (6) 2 16-6-6
[b][u]4 Cornell University 425 (1) 4 20-3-2[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State Univery 381 5 23-7-0
6 Ohio State University 351 6 19-7-4
[b][u]7 Clarkson University 308 7 19-6-5[/u][/b]
8 Providence College 243 10 18-9-4
9 University of Minnesota 217 9 18-13-1
10 University North Dakota 205 8 13-9-8
11 Northeastern University 163 11 16-8-5
12 Univer Minnesota Duluth 115 12 14-13-3
13 Univer Nebraska Omaha 89 13 14-13-1
14 Bowling Green UniVER 58 15 17-9-6
15 Western Michigan Univer 34 14 14-13-1
Others receiving votes: Boston College 18, University of Michigan 14,
Northern Michigan University 12, Penn State University 11,
Boston University 6, [b][u]Union College 5[/u][/b], UMass Lowell 3.
Men are 2 in USCHO and women are 5. No USA out yet.
Quote from: Jim HylaMen are 2 in USCHO and women are 5. No USA out yet.
Also #2 in USA Men's poll.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaMen are 2 in USCHO and women are 5. No USA out yet.
Also #2 in USA Men's poll.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
Here's all of them, except for USA's women, which I refuse to do, since it waits till Tuesday to come out.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 19, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (28) 20-6-4 967 3
[b][u]2 Cornell (18) 22-3-2 940 4[/u][/b]
3 Denver (3) 17-7-6 878 2
4 Minnesota State (1) 25-7-0 853 5
5 Notre Dame 22-8-2 845 1
6 Ohio State 19-8-5 695 6
7 Providence 20-9-4 687 8
8 Minnesota 19-13-2 619 10
9 Minnesota Duluth 16-13-3 550 11
[b][u]10 Clarkson 19-8-5 546 7[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 19-8-5 527 12
12 North Dakota 14-10-8 499 9
13 Michigan 16-13-3 355 18
14 Omaha 15-14-1 345 13
15 Bowling Green 19-9-6 312 14
16 Northern Michigan 20-11-3 222 17
17 Western Michigan 14-14-2 201 15
18 Penn State 14-13-5 133 16
[b][u]19 Union 20-13-1 119 NR[/u][/b]
20 Boston College 16-13-3 114 19
Other Receiving Votes: Boston University 41, [b][u]Harvard 18[/u][/b],
Wisconsin 12, Mercyhurst 10, Colorado College 5, Maine 3,
Bemidji State 2, UMass Lowell 1, Connecticut 1
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 19, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 500 (26) 2 20-6-4
[b][u]2 Cornell University 471 (8) 4 22-3-2[/u][/b]
3 University of Notre Dame424 1 22-8-2
4 University of Denver 409 3 17-7-6
5 Minnesota State Univer 398 5 25-7-0
6 Ohio State University 302 6 19-8-5
7 Providence College 287 8 20-9-4
8 University of Minnesota 264 9 19-13-2
[b][u]9 Clarkson University 206 7 19-8-5[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern University 195 11 19-8-5
11 Univer Minnesota Duluth 176 12 16-13-3
12 University North Dakota 175 10 14-10-8
13 University of Michigan 92 NR 16-13-3
14 Univer Nebraska Omaha 77 13 15-14-1
15 Bowling Green University 51 14 19-9-6
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan University 19,
[b][u]Union College 10[/u][/b], Northern Michigan University 8,
Penn State University 6, Boston College 6, Boston University 4.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 20-6-4 0.7333 3 0.6049 1
2 Notre Dame 57 22-8-2 0.7188 4 0.5871* 2
[b][u]2 Cornell 57 22-3-2 0.8519 1 0.5848* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota State 56 25-7-0 0.7812 2 0.5771* 4
4 Denver 56 17-7-6 0.6667 8 0.5762 5
6 Ohio State 54 19-8-5 0.6719 5 0.5682 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 52 19-8-5 0.6719 5 0.5529 8[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota 51 19-13-2 0.5882 14 0.5563 7
8 Providence 51 20-9-4 0.6667 8 0.5465 9
8 Minnesota Duluth51 16-13-3 0.5469 20 0.5432 10
11 Michigan 49 16-13-3 0.5469 20 0.5427 11
12 Northeastern 48 19-8-5 0.6719 5 0.5403 12
13 North Dakota 47 14-10-8 0.5625 16 0.5396* 13
14 Omaha 46 15-14-1 0.5167 26 0.5375 14
15 Western Michigan45 14-14-2 0.5000 28 0.5325 15
16 North Michigan 44 20-11-3 0.6324 11 0.5288 16
17 Penn State 43 14-13-5 0.5156 27 0.5265 17
18 Bowling Green 42 19-9-6 0.6471 10 0.5256 18
19 Boston Univer 40 16-13-3 0.5469 20 0.5203 22
[b][u]20 Union 39 20-13-1 0.6029 12 0.5253 19[/u][/b]
20 Boston College 39 16-13-3 0.5469 20 0.5237 20
[b][u]22 Harvard 38 13-10-4 0.5556 19 0.5220 21[/u][/b]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 19, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 29-3-2 150 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 29-4-1 128 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 28-3-3 121 4
[b][u]4 Colgate 29-4-1 111 3
5 Cornell 19-7-3 86 5[/u][/b]
6 Ohio State 21-9-4 71 6
7 Minnesota 20-10-3 63 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 18-10-4 47 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 18-7-4 23 9
10 Providence 16-11-7 19 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Maine 5, Minnesota Duluth 1
Women's Division I PairWise Rankings
I have no idea if this is accurate.
Well actually I have some idea, it's not accurate.
Why they put in St. Anselm is beyond me,
but trying to switch to Comparison layout is all screwy.
Hopefully they'll correct it.
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6430* 1
2 Boston College 38 28-3-3 0.8676 2 0.6283 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 37 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6247* 3
4 Colgate 36 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6227* 4[/u][/b]
[b][u]5???????Saint Anselm????35 15-2-3 0.8250 5 0.5820* 5[/u][/b]
[b][u]6 Cornell 34 19-7-3 0.7069 6 0.5716* 6[/u][/b]
7 Ohio State 33 21-9-4 0.6765 9 0.5708 7
8 Minnesota 32 20-10-3 0.6515 11 0.5553 8
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 31 18-10-4 0.6250 12 0.5462 9[/u][/b]
10 Robert Morris 30 18-7-4 0.6897 7 0.5340 10
11 Providence 29 16-11-7 0.5735 13 0.5321 11
Quote from: Jim HylaWomen's Division I PairWise Rankings
I have no idea if this is accurate.
Well actually I have some idea, it's not accurate.
Why they put in St. Anselm is beyond me,
but trying to switch to Comparison layout is all screwy.
Hopefully they'll correct it.
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6430* 1
2 Boston College 38 28-3-3 0.8676 2 0.6283 2
3 Clarkson 37 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6247* 3
4 Colgate 36 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6227* 4
5???????Saint Anselm????35 15-2-3 0.8250 5 0.5820* 5
6 Cornell 34 19-7-3 0.7069 6 0.5716* 6
7 Ohio State 33 21-9-4 0.6765 9 0.5708 7
8 Minnesota 32 20-10-3 0.6515 11 0.5553 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 18-10-4 0.6250 12 0.5462 9
10 Robert Morris 30 18-7-4 0.6897 7 0.5340 10
11 Providence 29 16-11-7 0.5735 13 0.5321 11
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It is accurate. The women's tournament is a "national collegiate" championship, which means that Division II schools are technically eligible (https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament).
Quote from: WederQuote from: Jim HylaWomen's Division I PairWise Rankings
I have no idea if this is accurate.
Well actually I have some idea, it's not accurate.
Why they put in St. Anselm is beyond me,
but trying to switch to Comparison layout is all screwy.
Hopefully they'll correct it.
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6430* 1
2 Boston College 38 28-3-3 0.8676 2 0.6283 2
3 Clarkson 37 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6247* 3
4 Colgate 36 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6227* 4
5???????Saint Anselm????35 15-2-3 0.8250 5 0.5820* 5
6 Cornell 34 19-7-3 0.7069 6 0.5716* 6
7 Ohio State 33 21-9-4 0.6765 9 0.5708 7
8 Minnesota 32 20-10-3 0.6515 11 0.5553 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 18-10-4 0.6250 12 0.5462 9
10 Robert Morris 30 18-7-4 0.6897 7 0.5340 10
11 Providence 29 16-11-7 0.5735 13 0.5321 11
[/code]
It is accurate. The women's tournament is a "national collegiate" championship, which means that Division II schools are technically eligible (https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament).
I think this is wonderful and they should place the D3 mens champion in the D1 tourney draw.
Quote from: WederQuote from: Jim HylaWomen's Division I PairWise Rankings
I have no idea if this is accurate.
Well actually I have some idea, it's not accurate.
Why they put in St. Anselm is beyond me,
but trying to switch to Comparison layout is all screwy.
Hopefully they'll correct it.
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6430* 1
2 Boston College 38 28-3-3 0.8676 2 0.6283 2
3 Clarkson 37 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6247* 3
4 Colgate 36 29-4-1 0.8676 2 0.6227* 4
5???????Saint Anselm????35 15-2-3 0.8250 5 0.5820* 5
6 Cornell 34 19-7-3 0.7069 6 0.5716* 6
7 Ohio State 33 21-9-4 0.6765 9 0.5708 7
8 Minnesota 32 20-10-3 0.6515 11 0.5553 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 18-10-4 0.6250 12 0.5462 9
10 Robert Morris 30 18-7-4 0.6897 7 0.5340 10
11 Providence 29 16-11-7 0.5735 13 0.5321 11
[/code]
It is accurate. The women's tournament is a "national collegiate" championship, which means that Division II schools are technically eligible (https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament).
Thanks, I was confused since St. Anselm has not recently been on prior top PWR. However, since you jogged my memory, I do remember seeing them on other PWR. How they suddenly reappeared is interesting. If they work up to a top 4 seed, wow. Only Div 1 teams played were Holy Cross and Sacred Heart. Hopefully your reference is correct, and they can be moved down. But whichever team they displace will be mad.
Looks like Jim is away from his desk....
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
http://www.usahockey.com/college
Stay at #2 in both polls.
Quote from: jeff '84Looks like Jim is away from his desk....
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
http://www.usahockey.com/college
Stay at #2 in both polls.
I expected Mankato to run all the way to #2. I dare say they deserve it.
Quote from: jeff '84Looks like Jim is away from his desk....
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
http://www.usahockey.com/college
Stay at #2 in both polls.
Just too busy, ::crazy::I'll post it all after work.
Men only got 2 FP votes, about right, in my view.
Here they are.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 26, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (47) 21-6-5 996 1
[b][u]2 Cornell (2) 23-4-2 905 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State (1) 26-7-1 876 4
4 Denver 17-8-7 865 3
5 Notre Dame 23-9-2 797 5
6 Ohio State 21-8-5 792 6
7 Minnesota Duluth 18-13-3 654 9
8 Northeastern 21-8-5 603 11
9 Providence 20-10-4 586 7
[b][u]10 Clarkson 20-8-6 584 10[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota 19-15-2 487 8
12 Michigan 18-13-3 463 13
13 North Dakota 14-11-9 355 12
14 Omaha 16-14-2 318 14
15 Penn State 16-13-5 299 18
[b][u]16 Union 21-13-2 232 19[/u][/b]
17 Bowling Green 20-10-6 210 15
18 Boston College 18-13-3 194 20
19 Northern Michigan 21-12-3 177 16
20 Boston University 17-13-4 47 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 29, Western Michigan 15,
UMass Lowell 7, [b][u]Harvard 5[/u][/b], Bemidji State 2, Maine 1, Colorado College 1
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 26, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 510 (34) 1 21-6-5
[b][u]2 Cornell University 459 2 23-4-2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State Univer 413 5 26-7-1
4 University Notre Dame 407 3 23-9-2
5 University of Denver 391 4 17-8-7
6 Ohio State University 357 6 21-8-5
7 Univer Minnesota Duluth 274 11 18-13-3
8 Northeastern University 252 10 21-8-5
[b][u]9 Clarkson University 235 9 20-8-6[/u][/b]
10 Providence College 208 7 20-10-4
11 University of Minnesota 181 8 19-15-2
12 University of Michigan 146 13 18-13-3
13 Penn State University 71 NR 16-13-5
14 University North Dakota 55 12 14-11-9
15 Univer Nebraska Omaha 45 14 16-14-2
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 23, [b][u]Union College 23[/u][/b],
Boston College 16, Northern Michigan University 7, UMass Lowell 3,
Western Michigan University 3, Mercyhurst University 1.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 21-6-5 0.7344 3 0.6044* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 23-9-2 0.7059 4 0.5822 2
[b][u]2 Cornell 57 23-4-2 0.8276 1 0.5783* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota State 56 26-7-1 0.7794 2 0.5751* 4
4 Denver 56 17-8-7 0.6406 9 0.5736 5
6 Ohio State 54 21-8-5 0.6912 5 0.5730 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 20-8-6 0.6765 7 0.5504 7[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota Duluth52 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5502 8
9 Minnesota 50 19-15-2 0.5556 19 0.5482 9
9 Michigan 50 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5456 10
11 Northeastern 49 21-8-5 0.6912 5 0.5443 11
12 Providence 48 20-10-4 0.6471 8 0.5426 12
13 Penn State 47 16-13-5 0.5441 21 0.5363 13
14 North Dakota 46 14-11-9 0.5441 21 0.5341 14
15 Omaha 45 16-14-2 0.5312 24 0.5339 15
16 Boston College 43 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5277 16
16 North Michigan 43 21-12-3 0.6250 11 0.5272 17
18 Bowling Green 41 20-10-6 0.6389 10 0.5254 19
[b][u]19 Union 40 21-13-2 0.6111 13 0.5269 18[/u][/b]
19 Western Michigan40 14-16-2 0.4688 39 0.5222 20
19 Boston Univer 40 17-13-4 0.5588 18 0.5208 21
22 Mercyhurst 38 19-11-4 0.6176 12 0.5172 22
23 Colorado College37 13-14-5 0.4844 34 0.5163 23
23 Wisconsin 37 14-17-4 0.4571 40 0.5143 24
[b][u]25 Harvard 35 13-12-4 0.5172 28 0.5112 25[/u][/b]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 26, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (14) 29-3-2 149 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson (1) 31-4-1 129 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 30-3-3 124 3
[b][u]4 Colgate 31-4-1 108 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 23-9-4 83 6
[b][u]6 Cornell 21-8-3 80 5[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 22-10-3 61 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 20-10-4 46 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 20-7-4 29 9
10 Maine 19-13-5 9 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Northeastern 4, Bemidji State 2, Providence 1
Women's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6414* 1
2 Boston College 38 30-3-3 0.8750 2 0.6279 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 37 31-4-1 0.8750 2 0.6265* 3
4 Colgate 36 31-4-1 0.8750 2 0.6263* 4[/u][/b]
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 23-9-4 0.6944 9 0.5725 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 33 21-8-3 0.7031 8 0.5684* 7[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota 32 22-10-3 0.6714 10 0.5612 8
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 31 20-10-4 0.6471 11 0.5524 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5457* 10
11 Robert Morris 29 20-7-4 0.7097 7 0.5419 11
Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
Quote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.
But according to KRACH they have a 65% chance of beating Penn State on Saturday.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.
http://www.usahockey.com/college
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.
That's fair.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (44) 22-6-6 992 1
[b][u]2 Cornell (5) 23-4-2 924 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State (1) 28-7-1 896 3
4 Denver 18-8-8 831 4
5 Notre Dame 23-9-2 815 5
6 Ohio State 23-8-5 772 6
7 Northeastern 21-8-5 646 8
8 Minnesota Duluth 19-14-3 616 7
9 Providence 20-10-4 586 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 20-8-6 581 10[/u][/b]
11 Michigan 20-13-3 537 12
12 Penn State 18-13-5 406 15
13 Omaha 17-15-2 353 14
14 North Dakota 14-12-10317 13
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 303 11
[b][u]16 Union 21-13-2 253 16[/u][/b]
17 Bowling Green 22-10-6 233 17
18 Boston College 18-13-3 197 18
19 Northern Michigan 23-13-3 127 19
20 Boston University 17-13-4 64 20
Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 29, [b][u]Harvard 9[/u][/b], Maine 7, Western Michigan 6
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 5, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 502 (28) 1 22-6-6
[b][u]2 Cornell University 466 (6) 2 23-4-2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State Univer 426 3 28-7-1
4 University of Notre Dame410 4 23-9-2
5 University of Denver 372 5 18-8-8
6 Ohio State University 352 6 23-8-5
7 Northeastern University 285 8 21-8-5
[b][u]8 Clarkson University 235 9 20-8-6[/u][/b]
9 Univer Minnesota Duluth 228 7 19-14-3
10 Providence College 214 10 20-10-4
11 University of Michigan 199 12 20-13-3
12 Penn State University 128 13 18-13-5
13 Univer Nebraska Omaha 75 15 17-15-2
14 University of Minnesota 65 11 19-17-2
[b][u]15 Union College 37 NR 21-13-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: University of North Dakota 33, Bowling Green State University 28,
Boston College 18, Northern Michigan University 4, [b][u]Harvard University 2[/u][/b], Mercyhurst University 1.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 22-6-6 0.7353 3 0.6019* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 23-9-2 0.7059 5 0.5819 2
[b][u]2 Cornell 57 23-4-2 0.8276 1 0.5780* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 56 23-8-5 0.7083 4 0.5768 4
5 Minnesota State 55 28-7-1 0.7917 2 0.5758* 5
5 Denver 55 18-8-8 0.6471 9 0.5707 6
7 Michigan 52 20-13-3 0.5972 14 0.5494 7
[b][u]7 Clarkson 52 20-8-6 0.6765 7 0.5493 8[/u][/b]
9 Minnesota Duluth 51 19-14-3 0.5694 16 0.5467 9
10 Northeastern 50 21-8-5 0.6912 6 0.5453 10
11 Penn State 49 18-13-5 0.5694 16 0.5441 11
12 Providence 48 20-10-4 0.6471 9 0.5435 12
13 Minnesota 47 19-17-2 0.5263 26 0.5413 13
14 Omaha 46 17-15-2 0.5294 23 0.5348 14
15 North Dakota 45 14-12-100.5278 25 0.5305 15
16 Bowling Green 44 22-10-6 0.6579 8 0.5298 16
17 Boston College 42 18-13-3 0.5735 15 0.5282 17
17 Northern Michigan 42 23-13-3 0.6282 11 0.5262 18
19 Boston University 41 17-13-4 0.5588 19 0.5221 20
[b][u]20 Union 39 21-13-2 0.6111 13 0.5257 19[/u][/b]
20 Western Michigan 39 15-17-2 0.4706 38 0.5211 21
KRACH: Division I Men
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 St. Cloud State 468.2 .8156 3 22-6-6 0.7353 2.778 3 174.4
[b][u]2 Cornell 387.9 .7864 1 23-4-2 0.8276 4.800 38 87.09[/u][/b]
3 Notre Dame 372.9 .7799 5 23-9-2 0.7059 2.400 10 159.8
4 Minnesota State 341.3 .7647 2 28-7-1 0.7917 3.800 31 94.14
5 Ohio State 335.4 .7617 4 23-8-5 0.7083 2.429 14 141.9
6 Denver 296.5 .7393 9 18-8-8 0.6471 1.833 8 164.7
7 Minnesota Duluth223.1 .6831 16 19-14-3 0.5694 1.323 6 169.9
8 Michigan 222.8 .6829 14 20-13-3 0.5972 1.483 12 151.9
[b][u]9 Clarkson 213.8 .6743 7 20-8-6 0.6765 2.091 19 104.6[/u][/b]
10 Minnesota 210.7 .6712 26 19-17-2 0.5263 1.111 1 190.2
11 Penn State 202.9 .6631 16 18-13-5 0.5694 1.323 11 154.6
12 Northeastern 194.4 .6539 6 21-8-5 0.6912 2.238 36 89.11
13 Omaha 190.6 .6496 23 17-15-2 0.5294 1.125 5 170.0
14 Providence 174.8 .6305 9 20-10-4 0.6471 1.833 27 97.13
15 North Dakota 168.4 .6221 25 14-12-100.5278 1.118 13 151.1
16 Boston College 159.9 .6103 15 18-13-3 0.5735 1.345 16 119.9
17 Bowling Green 155.1 .6034 8 22-10-6 0.6579 1.923 43 82.10
18 Boston Univer 147.2 .5914 19 17-13-4 0.5588 1.267 17 117.0
[b][u]19 Union 147.2 .5913 13 21-13-2 0.6111 1.571 29 94.84[/u][/b]
20 Western Michigan144.7 .5875 38 15-17-2 0.4706 0.889 9 162.3
Not that these matter anymore :-/ but here's the women.
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Clarkson (14) 33-4-1 149 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (1) 30-4-2 136 1
[b][u]3 Colgate 32-5-1 119 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 30-4-3 106 3
5 Minnesota 24-10-3 83 7
6 Ohio State 23-10-4 77 5
[b][u]7 Cornell 21-9-3 62 6
8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 19-16-3 27 NR
10 Robert Morris 21-8-4 12 9
Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 11, Maine 3
Women's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 Clarkson 39 33-4-1 0.8816 1 0.6359* 1[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 38 30-4-2 0.8611 2 0.6356* 2
[b][u]3 Colgate 37 32-5-1 0.8553 3 0.6242* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-4-3 0.8514 4 0.6196 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Minnesota 34 24-10-3 0.6892 8 0.5718 6
7 Ohio State 33 23-10-4 0.6757 10 0.5683 7
[b][u]8 Cornell 32 21-9-3 0.6818 9 0.5631* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5486 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10
KRACH: National Collegiate Women
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
[b][u]1 Clarkson 1075. .8970 1 33-4-1 0.8816 7.444 13 158.0[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 1024. .8927 2 30-4-2 0.8611 6.200 5 178.8
[b][u]3 Colgate 887.1 .8789 3 32-5-1 0.8553 5.909 11 161.3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 769.6 .8640 4 30-4-3 0.8514 5.727 16 144.3
5 Minnesota 386.9 .7714 8 24-10-3 0.6892 2.217 6 178.6
6 Ohio State 354.0 .7568 10 23-10-4 0.6757 2.083 8 173.5
[b][u]7 Cornell 333.5 .7468 9 21-9-3 0.6818 2.143 12 159.5
8 St. Lawrence 272.8 .7109 11 20-11-4 0.6286 1.692 10 163.7[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 218.9 .6685 16 19-16-3 0.5395 1.171 3 187.6
This means even less now, in fact I think once postseason play starts, they should stop polling, no one cares and there should not be a final end of season poll. We ave the playoffs, nothing else matters, even for discussing.
But, for completeness sake, I'll carry on.:-|
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 12, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (32) 24-7-6 975 1
[b][u]2 Cornell (16) 25-4-2 954 2[/u][/b]
3 Notre Dame (1) 24-9-2 870 5
4 Denver (1) 20-9-8 852 4
5 Ohio State 24-8-5 812 6
6 Minnesota State 29-9-1 736 3
7 Northeastern 23-8-5 689 7
8 Minnesota Duluth 21-14-3 644 8
9 Providence 22-10-4 601 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 22-9-6 553 10[/u][/b]
11 Michigan 20-14-3 488 11
12 North Dakota 16-12-10415 14
13 Penn State 18-14-5 413 12
14 Boston College 20-13-3 301 18
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 298 15
16 Northern Michigan 25-14-3 241 19
17 Omaha 17-17-2 197 13
18 Boston University 19-13-4 172 20
19 Bowling Green 23-12-6 118 17
[b][u]20 Union 21-15-2 62 16[[/u][/b]
Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 53, [b][u]Harvard 27[/u][/b],
Michigan Tech 20, [b][u]Princeton 9[/u][/b]
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 12, 2018
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 St. Cloud State Univer 498 (20) 1 24-7-6
[b][u]2 Cornell University 477 (14) 2 25-4-2[/u][/b]
3 University of Notre Dame439 4 24-9-2
4 Ohio State University 386 6 24-8-5
5 University of Denver 380 5 20-9-8
6 Minnesota State Univer 346 3 29-9-1
7 Northeastern University 294 7 23-8-5
8 Univer Minnesota Duluth 252 9 21-14-3
9 Providence College 243 10 22-10-4
[b][u]10 Clarkson University 215 8 22-9-6[/u][/b]
11 University of Michigan 169 11 20-14-3
12 Penn State University 102 12 18-14-5
13 University North Dakota 90 NR 16-12-10
14 University of Minnesota 70 14 19-17-2
15 Boston College 36 NR 20-13-3
Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan University 24,
University of Nebraska Omaha 20, [b][u]Union College 16[/u][/b],
[b][u]Harvard University 12[/u][/b], Bowling Green State University 7,
Mercyhurst University 4.
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 24-7-6 0.7297 3 0.5943* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 24-9-2 0.7143 5 0.5830 2
[b][u]2 Cornell 57 25-4-2 0.8387 1 0.5824* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 56 24-8-5 0.7162 4 0.5783 4
4 Denver 56 20-9-8 0.6486 9 0.5658 5
6 Minnesota State 54 29-9-1 0.7564 2 0.5644* 6
7 Northeastern 53 23-8-5 0.7083 6 0.5497 7
8 Minnesota Duluth51 21-14-3 0.5921 14 0.5480 8
8 Providence 51 22-10-4 0.6667 8 0.5479 9
10 Michigan 49 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5456 10
[b][u]10 Clarkson 49 22-9-6 0.6757 7 0.5453 11[/u][/b]
12 Penn State 48 18-14-5 0.5541 21 0.5415 12
13 Minnesota 47 19-17-2 0.5263 25 0.5406 13
14 North Dakota 46 16-12-10 0.5526 22 0.5334 14
15 Boston College 44 20-13-3 0.5972 13 0.5333 15
16 Bowling Green 43 23-12-6 0.6341 11 0.5268 16
16 North'n Michigan43 25-14-3 0.6310 12 0.5263 17
18 Boston Univer 42 19-13-4 0.5833 15 0.5259 18
18 Omaha 42 17-17-2 0.5000 28 0.5258 19
20 Mercyhurst 40 21-11-4 0.6389 10 0.5223 20
[b][u]21 Union 38 21-15-2 0.5789 17 0.5172 21
21 Princeton 38 17-12-4 0.5758 19 0.5147 22[/u][/b]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Clarkson (14) 33-4-1 149 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (1) 30-4-2 136 1
[b][u]3 Colgate 32-5-1 119 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 30-4-3 106 3
5 Minnesota 24-10-3 83 7
6 Ohio State 23-10-4 77 5
[b][u]7 Cornell 21-9-3 62 6
8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 19-16-3 27 NR
10 Robert Morris 21-8-4 12 9
Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 11, Maine 3
Women's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 39 31-4-2 0.8649 2 0.6401* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 38 34-4-1 0.8846 1 0.6369* 2
3 Colgate 37 33-5-1 0.8590 3 0.6267* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-5-3 0.8289 4 0.6123 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 24-10-4 0.6842 8 0.5743 6
7 Minnesota 33 24-11-3 0.6711 10 0.5691 7
[b][u]8 Cornell 32 21-9-3 0.6818 9 0.5634* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5485 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10
In all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore. They were always BS anyway. Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."
Quote from: TrotskyIn all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore. They were always BS anyway. Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."
The only reason I can see for polls is to start discussion in the early part of the season, before there's enough data to get a reasonable PWR.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIn all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore. They were always BS anyway. Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."
The only reason I can see for polls is to start discussion in the early part of the season, before there's enough data to get a reasonable PWR.
That's fair. Although I think even then polls aren't about real performance but last year's best finishers, a couple anticipated drops from graduations, seasoned with recruiting hype.
Not that this matters anymore, even for discussion, but here it is.
USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 19, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 St. Cloud State (28) 25-8-6 966 1
2 Notre Dame (14) 25-9-2 956 3
3 Denver (7) 22-9-8 893 4
[b][u]4 Cornell (1) 25-5-2 859 2[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 24-9-5 815 5
6 Minnesota State 29-9-1 743 6
7 Providence 23-11-4 661 9
8 Northeastern 23-9-5 644 7
[b][u]9 Clarkson 23-10-6 581 10[/u][/b]
10 Michigan 20-14-3 541 11
11 Minnesota Duluth 21-16-3 508 8
12 Penn State 18-14-5 429 13
13 Boston University 21-13-4 366 18
14 North Dakota 17-13-10 343 12
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 247 15
[b][u]16 Princeton 19-12-4 198 NR[/u][/b]
17 Boston College 20-14-3 188 14
18 Michigan Tech 22-16-5 175 NR
19 Northern Michigan 25-15-3 112 16
20 Omaha 17-17-2 80 17
Other Receiving Votes: Air Force 78, Bowling Green 76,
Mercyhurst 16, [b][u]Harvard 14, Union 10[/u][/b], Robert Morris 1
Men's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 St. Cloud State 59 25-8-6 0.7179 4 0.5917* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 25-9-2 0.7222 3 0.5864* 2
[b][u]2 Cornell 57 25-5-2 0.8125 1 0.5762* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 56 24-9-5 0.6974 5 0.5755 4
4 Denver 56 22-9-8 0.6667 7 0.5746 5
6 Minnesota State 54 29-9-1 0.7564 2 0.5645* 6
7 Providence 53 23-11-4 0.6579 9 0.5474 7
8 Michigan 51 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5453 8
8 Northeastern 51 23-9-5 0.6892 6 0.5449 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 50 23-10-6 0.6667 7 0.5432 10[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 49 18-14-5 0.5541 21 0.5412 11
12 Minnesota Duluth47 21-16-3 0.5625 20 0.5404 12
12 Minnesota 47 19-17-2 0.5263 23 0.5403 13
14 North Dakota 46 17-13-10 0.5500 22 0.5350 14
15 Boston Univer 45 21-13-4 0.6053 13 0.5340 15
16 Boston College 42 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5298 16
16 Bowling Green 42 23-12-6 0.6341 10 0.5261 17
[b][u]16 Princeton 42 19-12-4 0.6000 14 0.5259 18[/u][/b]
USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 19, 2018
Rnk Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
[b][u]1 Clarkson (15) 36-4-1 150 1
2 Colgate 34-6-1 133 3[/u][/b]
3 Wisconsin 31-5-2 122 2
4 Ohio State 24-11-4 104 6
5 Boston College 30-5-3 89 4
6 Minnesota 24-11-3 76 5
[b][u]7 Cornell 21-9-3 51 7[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern 19-17-3 36 9
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 36 8[/u][/b]
10 Mercyhurst 18-15-4 27 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 1
Women's Division I PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 Clarkson 39 36-4-1 0.8902 1 0.6465* 1[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 38 31-5-2 0.8421 2 0.6317* 2
[b][u]3 Colgate 37 34-6-1 0.8415 3 0.6268* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-5-3 0.8289 4 0.6119 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 24-11-4 0.6667 10 0.5685 6
7 Minnesota 33 24-11-3 0.6711 9 0.5664 7
[b][u]8 Cornell 32 21-9-3 0.6818 8 0.5638* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5495 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10