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Title: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: David Harding on August 12, 2017, 11:41:29 PM
The Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms (http://cornellsun.com/2017/08/03/the-suns-glossary-of-sports-terms-from-a-to-z/) is not too bad, but completely dominated by names of coaches.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Ken711 on August 13, 2017, 10:58:45 AM
QuoteArcher: David '05. A student athlete himself back in the day and a man who has bled Red for years now, Archer is entering his fifth year as the head football coach of his alma mater. When Archer was hired in 2013, he became the youngest Division I head coach in the nation. Be on the lookout for that breakthrough season for the Red sometime in the near future.

Define near future.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Johnny 5 on August 15, 2017, 06:44:55 AM
Holocene epoch (if ever)?

::whistle::
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: CU2007 on August 15, 2017, 10:34:09 AM
I.C.: Ithaca College, the school on the other hill. Division III kingpin in just about every sport. Nicknamed the Bombers, possibly because of an affinity for cheap Ithaca bars.

Is that really true? Honest question.




Noel: Andy. Current Cornell Athletic Director. Daily Sun favorite. Who doesn't love Andy?

Guess they don't read this forum...
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Weder on August 15, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: CU2007I.C.: Ithaca College, the school on the other hill. Division III kingpin in just about every sport. Nicknamed the Bombers, possibly because of an affinity for cheap Ithaca bars.

Is that really true? Honest question.




Noel: Andy. Current Cornell Athletic Director. Daily Sun favorite. Who doesn't love Andy?

Guess they don't read this forum...

IC isn't as strong in football and baseball as it used to be, but it finished 10th in the Division III Directors' Cup standings last year.

(Aside: Anyone know if they've ever expressed any interest in adding hockey? With so many DIII teams in New York, I've always wondered why they don't have it.)
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: David Harding on August 16, 2017, 12:37:26 AM
Quote from: Weder
Quote from: CU2007I.C.: Ithaca College, the school on the other hill. Division III kingpin in just about every sport. Nicknamed the Bombers, possibly because of an affinity for cheap Ithaca bars.

Is that really true? Honest question.

IC isn't as strong in football and baseball as it used to be, but it finished 10th in the Division III Directors' Cup standings last year.

(Aside: Anyone know if they've ever expressed any interest in adding hockey? With so many DIII teams in New York, I've always wondered why they don't have it.)
They already have 25 varsity sports for a student body of ~6,600.  You can only spread your resources so far.  There is a club ice hockey team (https://www.ithaca.edu/sacl/recsports/clubsports/?item=2109) that competes in the Upstate New York Club Hockey League.
The IC website devotes an inconclusive page to the origin of the name (https://library.ithaca.edu/archives/bombers.php).
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Swampy on August 21, 2017, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: David HardingThe Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms (http://cornellsun.com/2017/08/03/the-suns-glossary-of-sports-terms-from-a-to-z/) is not too bad, but completely dominated by names of coaches.

Am I missing something? No Harkness?
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Johnny 5 on August 21, 2017, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: David HardingThe Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms (http://cornellsun.com/2017/08/03/the-suns-glossary-of-sports-terms-from-a-to-z/) is not too bad, but completely dominated by names of coaches.

Am I missing something? No Harkness?

I think deities fall under their own category.

:-D
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Swampy on August 22, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: David HardingThe Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms (http://cornellsun.com/2017/08/03/the-suns-glossary-of-sports-terms-from-a-to-z/) is not too bad, but completely dominated by names of coaches.

Am I missing something? No Harkness?

I think deities fall under their own category.

:-D

Ah, that also explains why no Pop Warner. But how do we explain George Seifert? Surely his record at Cornell makes him mortal, even though some in the San Francisco Bay Area think he at least qualifies as a demigod. Also, what about obvious mortals like Ben Deluca? Has he been the victim of some Stalinesque purge of history enacted by Andy Noel? And what about Petro, Tamboroni, and don't forget Dick Bertrand.

To change the subject slightly, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall at the interview for the next football coach when they ask, "George Seifert's teams won two Superbowls and finished first in the NFC West 6 out of 8 times. But he couldn't win here, so what makes you think you can?"
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: billhoward on August 23, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
The Sun's glossary might be the start of a larger glossary added to over time. The Sun editors in the Class of 2018 were born 3 years after Seifert won his second/last Super Bowl, in 1996. Their parents may have attended Cornell after Seifert coached on the Hill. When I was on campus in the seventies, I thought Cornell's football exploits of the early 1950s (like beating Michigan) were ancient history and not of interest (then).
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: rss77 on August 26, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: jkahn on August 26, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Swampy on August 27, 2017, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: Trotsky on August 27, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
In 66 probably the freshmen.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: jkahn on August 28, 2017, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
In 66 probably the freshmen.
I think Swampy's question was rhetorical, but yes, Cornell won.  It was hard for the frosh to get competitive teams to play.  There'd be mostly Jr. B teams from Canada on the schedule, such as the Dixie Beehives.  In '69-'70 I saw Carlo Ugolini score 4 goals in 51 seconds, perhaps against Dixie.  Two of them were unassisted where he won the faceoffs and proceeded to skate through the opponent and score.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: CU2007 on August 30, 2017, 10:10:08 AM
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.

Wonder if they've ever considered adding it back. Could play in the conference with Utica, Nazareth, Elmira etc. All relatively local.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: billhoward on September 03, 2017, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
In 66 probably the freshmen.
I think Swampy's question was rhetorical, but yes, Cornell won.  It was hard for the frosh to get competitive teams to play.  There'd be mostly Jr. B teams from Canada on the schedule, such as the Dixie Beehives.  In '69-'70 I saw Carlo Ugolini score 4 goals in 51 seconds, perhaps against Dixie.  Two of them were unassisted where he won the faceoffs and proceeded to skate through the opponent and score.
Unassisted? Carlo would have told the refs he passed between the legs to himself and deserved an assist on the goal. His teammates ribbed him about trying to pick up assists. But he was a talented player.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: jkahn on September 05, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
In 66 probably the freshmen.
I think Swampy's question was rhetorical, but yes, Cornell won.  It was hard for the frosh to get competitive teams to play.  There'd be mostly Jr. B teams from Canada on the schedule, such as the Dixie Beehives.  In '69-'70 I saw Carlo Ugolini score 4 goals in 51 seconds, perhaps against Dixie.  Two of them were unassisted where he won the faceoffs and proceeded to skate through the opponent and score.
Unassisted? Carlo would have told the refs he passed between the legs to himself and deserved an assist on the goal. His teammates ribbed him about trying to pick up assists. But he was a talented player.
It was John Fumio who always was looking for assists.  He'd skate over to the scorer's box, even in freshmen games, and claim he touched the puck.
Title: Re: Cornell Sun's Glossary of Cornell Sports Terms
Post by: billhoward on September 07, 2017, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: rss77Ithaca College had a varsity ice hockey team back in the 1960s and 1970s and played at Lynah Rink.  They dropped the sport back sometime in mid-70s. I remember an acquaintance of mine at Cornell showing me the article in the Cornell Sun of IC's decision (He played on the ice hockey team at IC and transferred to Cornell for academic reasons as he did not play on CU's team).  Rumor had that at one time IC was considering building a rink of their own but decided not after the City announced they were building the rink at Cass Park.
The Cornell freshmen team used to play IC's varsity.  I recall a 21 or 22-0 score.

Who won?
In 66 probably the freshmen.
I think Swampy's question was rhetorical, but yes, Cornell won.  It was hard for the frosh to get competitive teams to play.  There'd be mostly Jr. B teams from Canada on the schedule, such as the Dixie Beehives.  In '69-'70 I saw Carlo Ugolini score 4 goals in 51 seconds, perhaps against Dixie.  Two of them were unassisted where he won the faceoffs and proceeded to skate through the opponent and score.
Unassisted? Carlo would have told the refs he passed between the legs to himself and deserved an assist on the goal. His teammates ribbed him about trying to pick up assists. But he was a talented player.
It was John Fumio who always was looking for assists.  He'd skate over to the scorer's box, even in freshmen games, and claim he touched the puck.
Can we agree they both felt underappreciated when they got a +1 but not an A? Fumio was most incensed when he deflected a puck into the net with his mouth, and the ref ruled it was a high stick. No goal, no assist, fewer teeth.

If Sun editors are reading this thread, they're wondering why anyone cares about some jock who's old enough to be their grandfather. Sort of like you and me waxing rhapsodic the Fifth Down game, which I always thought fell into the category of "neat but ancient history." My class ('74) this year just had its first legacy grandchild.