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Title: Track and field champion
Post by: dbilmes on June 08, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Rudy Winkler (http://cornellsun.com/2017/06/08/winkler-becomes-4th-in-program-history-to-win-national-championship/) becomes the fourth Cornell athlete to win an individual championship at the NCAA Track and Field Championships.
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: Trotsky on June 08, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: dbilmesRudy Winkler (http://cornellsun.com/2017/06/08/winkler-becomes-4th-in-program-history-to-win-national-championship/) becomes the fourth Cornell athlete to win an individual championship at the NCAA Track and Field Championships.
This seems impossible.  The Ivies dominated the early days of the NC$$ (1910-) when college athletics was the Upper Class Twit of the Year olympiad.  I'd have thought Cornell would have had dozens of early individual champions.
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: ugarte on June 10, 2017, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: dbilmesRudy Winkler (http://cornellsun.com/2017/06/08/winkler-becomes-4th-in-program-history-to-win-national-championship/) becomes the fourth Cornell athlete to win an individual championship at the NCAA Track and Field Championships.
This seems impossible.  The Ivies dominated the early days of the NC$$ (1910-) when college athletics was the Upper Class Twit of the Year olympiad.  I'd have thought Cornell would have had dozens of early individual champions.
Andy Noel didn't really care about T&F back then.
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: semsox on June 10, 2017, 05:59:28 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: dbilmesRudy Winkler (http://cornellsun.com/2017/06/08/winkler-becomes-4th-in-program-history-to-win-national-championship/) becomes the fourth Cornell athlete to win an individual championship at the NCAA Track and Field Championships.
This seems impossible.  The Ivies dominated the early days of the NC$$ (1910-) when college athletics was the Upper Class Twit of the Year olympiad.  I'd have thought Cornell would have had dozens of early individual champions.
Andy Noel didn't really care about T&F back then.

Bravo
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: Trotsky on June 12, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: dbilmesRudy Winkler (http://cornellsun.com/2017/06/08/winkler-becomes-4th-in-program-history-to-win-national-championship/) becomes the fourth Cornell athlete to win an individual championship at the NCAA Track and Field Championships.
This seems impossible.  The Ivies dominated the early days of the NC$$ (1910-) when college athletics was the Upper Class Twit of the Year olympiad.  I'd have thought Cornell would have had dozens of early individual champions.
Andy Noel didn't really care about T&F back then.
This, among other reasons, is why you get paid to bring the funny.  Golf clap.
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: dag14 on June 12, 2017, 08:55:14 AM
The NCAA track & field championship tournament debuted in 1921.  I didn't spend a lot of time searching for Cornell athletes because I assumed the Athletic Department would want to claim every champion they possibly could.  I did note that there were no Cornellians listed in the top finishers in any events between 1921 and 1927 and that there were only three Ivy athletes who placed -- a guy from Yale in 1921 and two from Penn in 1922. A History of the NCAA Championships (https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/special-articles/1028)
Title: Re: Track and field champion
Post by: Trotsky on June 12, 2017, 02:53:19 PM
This (http://www.ivyleague.com/history/olympics/index) is probably incomplete, since it's from the official Ivy site, which is terrible.  It is a list of Ivy Olympians.

QuoteThe first modern Olympic Games in Athens, Greece attracted 241 men from 14 nations. The American team was made up of 12 men, all from the Ivy League either Columbia, Harvard or Princeton. Harvard, reluctant to send its own team, advised its competitors to travel under the banner of the Boston Athletic Association, the group that today administers the Boston Marathon. Princeton allowed its team to go under the university's banner as a Princeton classics professor, William Sloane, was part of the international committee led by Baron Pierre de Coubertin that sought to revive the ancient Games.

The entire team traveled together on a steamship, with the exception of brothers John B. Paine (Harvard '92) and Sumner Paine (Harvard '90). John Paine left separately for Paris (the other athletes were headed to Naples) in an effort to recruit Sumner to enter the shooting competitions with him. It should be noted that Robert Garrett, Jr. (Princeton '97) paid the way to Greece for his fellow Princetonians Herbert Jamison '97, Francis Lane '97, and Albert Tyler '97.

The Games turned out to be successful for almost all of the Leaguers. James B. Connolly (Harvard '96) won gold in the triple jump, silver in the high jump, and bronze in the long jump. The gold made him the first person to be crowned Olympic champion since the ancient Greek Games over 1,500 years prior.

Garrett won gold in the discus and shot put, and finished right behind Connolly in the high jump and long jump. He had practiced the discus with one he fashioned from history books regarding the ancient Greek Games. But when Garrett reached Athens and found the true weight of the disc to be much lighter, he beat the favored Greeks to the dismay of the crowd. Columbia's Thomas P. Curtis claimed gold in the hurdles.

Quick headcount from the pre-WW2 Olympiads (Year / Ivy / Cornell) with the most recent listed for comparison:


SUMMER

96 12 0
00 22 0
04 18 2
08 19 7
12 27 8
20 28 5
24 54 8
28 25 3
32 26 2
36 32 2
[i]12 49 3[/i]

WINTER

24  3 0
28  4 0
32 17 0
36 13 0
[i]14 24 6[/i]